Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-13 Thread shaun everiss
piterm...@gmail.com
you will have to email him for im details but its dead easy.
you need a dropbox account, and you need other things, however not to bad I 
have windows messenger 5.1 loaded here.
you need autoit v3 installed but thats it so far.
I am now getting a entire download of the entire test group folders including 
source and binaries.
its not done yet so when it is I can review it.

At 11:19 p.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>I was told to get in contact with someone.
>I'd like to ask to be added to the list and dropbox for the project.
>As to another comment, NO you cannot race trains.
>I think there will be a system to work out regarding speed limits in upcomning 
>blocks of track.
>For example, say you're going 80mph, coming towards a 40mph limit (entering 
>station limits) with 2 miles to go.
>Or, you're at 15, and get clearance up to 40 as you leave the station. I'll 
>see if I can find some math to crunch.
>On a sidenote, might the system include an ATO feature for new drivers?
>Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-13 Thread Harun
I was told to get in contact with someone.
I'd like to ask to be added to the list and dropbox for the project.
As to another comment, NO you cannot race trains.
I think there will be a system to work out regarding speed limits in upcomning 
blocks of track.
For example, say you're going 80mph, coming towards a 40mph limit (entering 
station limits) with 2 miles to go.
Or, you're at 15, and get clearance up to 40 as you leave the station. I'll see 
if I can find some math to crunch.
On a sidenote, might the system include an ATO feature for new drivers?
Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-13 Thread Scott Chesworth
Will do, they're coming at ya off list in a second.


On 8/13/09, peter Mahach  wrote:
> sure just give me your msn and the email you signed up with on dropbox.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Chesworth" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>
>
>> Hi chaps,
>>
>> Just a quick note to say that if you're looking for extra beta
>> testers, I'd be happy to help out.  I'm not much of a coder yet myself
>> so won't be treading on any toes there, but I have a fairly good grasp
>> of the logical frame of mind that goes into software creation and an
>> eye for detail that means I'm usually pretty good at tracking down
>> bugs and describing them succinctly.
>>
>> I have an MSN passport and a dropbox account.  If there's anything I
>> can do just give me a shout and we'll take it from there.
>>
>> cheers
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/13/09, peter Mahach  wrote:
>>> this thing basically allows you to talk with peopel although you don't
>>> have
>>> them on your contact list, with special commands beginning with a slash
>>> key
>>> to do other things like display who's online.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "shaun everiss" 
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:54 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>>>
>>>
>>>> how will this msn chat work?
>>>> I have windows messenger 5.1 does this mean I will have an address I add
>>>> to contacts or what.
>>>> as I said nothing fancy.
>>>> I have dropbox as I say.
>>>> At 08:48 p.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>that's something he would not be able to do in our sim as train speed
>>>>>and
>>>>>so on is hardcoded however if people want that changed we can think of
>>>>>something. btw I'll be adding you to our dropbox folder and subscribing
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>the chat.
>>>>>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
>>>>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:54 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>hmm my friend did mods on a electric train, but then I suspect he
>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>play the game properly, he doesn't care to mission on those things and
>>>>>>will cheat when he can.
>>>>>>so who knows.
>>>>>>At 08:43 a.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>>>Hi Shaun,
>>>>>>>Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>know you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a
>>>>>>>train version of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real
>>>>>>>trains.
>>>>>>>For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You
>>>>>>>can choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can
>>>>>>>select
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS
>>>>>>>Train
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Simulator has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S.,
>>>>>>>and Japan. Probably others as well.
>>>>>>>Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a
>>>>>>>steam train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in
>>>>>>>the fire box at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the
>>>>>>>fire. Too little coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the
>>>>>>>water in the boiler. Of course you can have the computer handle the
>>>>>>>job
>>>>>>>as fireman, but the computer isn't designed to manage the fire box
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>maximum efficiency in mind. Therefore if you let the computer handle
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>&g

Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-13 Thread peter Mahach

sure just give me your msn and the email you signed up with on dropbox.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Chesworth" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found



Hi chaps,

Just a quick note to say that if you're looking for extra beta
testers, I'd be happy to help out.  I'm not much of a coder yet myself
so won't be treading on any toes there, but I have a fairly good grasp
of the logical frame of mind that goes into software creation and an
eye for detail that means I'm usually pretty good at tracking down
bugs and describing them succinctly.

I have an MSN passport and a dropbox account.  If there's anything I
can do just give me a shout and we'll take it from there.

cheers
Scott

On 8/13/09, peter Mahach  wrote:
this thing basically allows you to talk with peopel although you don't 
have
them on your contact list, with special commands beginning with a slash 
key

to do other things like display who's online.
- Original Message -
From: "shaun everiss" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found



how will this msn chat work?
I have windows messenger 5.1 does this mean I will have an address I add
to contacts or what.
as I said nothing fancy.
I have dropbox as I say.
At 08:48 p.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
that's something he would not be able to do in our sim as train speed 
and

so on is hardcoded however if people want that changed we can think of
something. btw I'll be adding you to our dropbox folder and subscribing 
to


the chat.
- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found


hmm my friend did mods on a electric train, but then I suspect he 
doesn't


play the game properly, he doesn't care to mission on those things and
will cheat when he can.
so who knows.
At 08:43 a.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,
Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as 
I


know you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a
train version of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real
trains.
For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You
can choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can 
select


the continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS 
Train


Simulator has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S.,
and Japan. Probably others as well.
Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a
steam train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in
the fire box at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the
fire. Too little coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the
water in the boiler. Of course you can have the computer handle the 
job
as fireman, but the computer isn't designed to manage the fire box 
with
maximum efficiency in mind. Therefore if you let the computer handle 
the


job as fireman you might not get top speed out of your train.
Then, each train has different gages and breaks unique to that train.
Some use the old steam and vacuum breaks and the newer trains use air
breaks. On a steam train you have steam and water gages to keep track 
of


where a diesel has fuel, speed, etc. As a result you need to practice 
a

bit with each kind of train to learn how to drive them correctly.
Anyway, what I am getting at is I have never heard of racing trains in
Train Simulator. I do know that it is a rather sophisticated train
simulation, and from what I've heard and seen of it the game is 
totally

mag for train enthusiasts.

shaun everiss wrote:
hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or 
at

least test it?
Sounds quite fun.
hmm what about train races.
In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can race it I think



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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-13 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hi chaps,

Just a quick note to say that if you're looking for extra beta
testers, I'd be happy to help out.  I'm not much of a coder yet myself
so won't be treading on any toes there, but I have a fairly good grasp
of the logical frame of mind that goes into software creation and an
eye for detail that means I'm usually pretty good at tracking down
bugs and describing them succinctly.

I have an MSN passport and a dropbox account.  If there's anything I
can do just give me a shout and we'll take it from there.

cheers
Scott

On 8/13/09, peter Mahach  wrote:
> this thing basically allows you to talk with peopel although you don't have
> them on your contact list, with special commands beginning with a slash key
> to do other things like display who's online.
> - Original Message -
> From: "shaun everiss" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>
>
>> how will this msn chat work?
>> I have windows messenger 5.1 does this mean I will have an address I add
>> to contacts or what.
>> as I said nothing fancy.
>> I have dropbox as I say.
>> At 08:48 p.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>>>that's something he would not be able to do in our sim as train speed and
>>>so on is hardcoded however if people want that changed we can think of
>>>something. btw I'll be adding you to our dropbox folder and subscribing to
>>>
>>>the chat.
>>>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
>>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:54 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>>>
>>>
>>>>hmm my friend did mods on a electric train, but then I suspect he doesn't
>>>>
>>>>play the game properly, he doesn't care to mission on those things and
>>>>will cheat when he can.
>>>>so who knows.
>>>>At 08:43 a.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>Hi Shaun,
>>>>>Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as I
>>>>>
>>>>>know you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a
>>>>>train version of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real
>>>>>trains.
>>>>>For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You
>>>>>can choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can select
>>>>>
>>>>>the continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS Train
>>>>>
>>>>>Simulator has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S.,
>>>>>and Japan. Probably others as well.
>>>>>Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a
>>>>>steam train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in
>>>>>the fire box at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the
>>>>>fire. Too little coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the
>>>>>water in the boiler. Of course you can have the computer handle the job
>>>>>as fireman, but the computer isn't designed to manage the fire box with
>>>>>maximum efficiency in mind. Therefore if you let the computer handle the
>>>>>
>>>>>job as fireman you might not get top speed out of your train.
>>>>>Then, each train has different gages and breaks unique to that train.
>>>>>Some use the old steam and vacuum breaks and the newer trains use air
>>>>>breaks. On a steam train you have steam and water gages to keep track of
>>>>>
>>>>>where a diesel has fuel, speed, etc. As a result you need to practice a
>>>>>bit with each kind of train to learn how to drive them correctly.
>>>>>Anyway, what I am getting at is I have never heard of racing trains in
>>>>>Train Simulator. I do know that it is a rather sophisticated train
>>>>>simulation, and from what I've heard and seen of it the game is totally
>>>>>mag for train enthusiasts.
>>>>>
>>>>>shaun everiss wrote:
>>>>>>hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or at
>>>>>>least test it?
>>>>>>Sounds quite fun.
>>>>>>hmm what about train races.
>>>>>>In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can race it I think
>

Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-13 Thread shaun everiss
aah ok.
do I need extra software for this?
At 09:04 p.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>this thing basically allows you to talk with peopel although you don't have 
>them on your contact list, with special commands beginning with a slash key to 
>do other things like display who's online.
>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>
>
>>how will this msn chat work?
>>I have windows messenger 5.1 does this mean I will have an address I add to 
>>contacts or what.
>>as I said nothing fancy.
>>I have dropbox as I say.
>>At 08:48 p.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>>>that's something he would not be able to do in our sim as train speed and so 
>>>on is hardcoded however if people want that changed we can think of 
>>>something. btw I'll be adding you to our dropbox folder and subscribing to 
>>>the chat.
>>>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
>>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:54 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>>>
>>>
>>>>hmm my friend did mods on a electric train, but then I suspect he doesn't 
>>>>play the game properly, he doesn't care to mission on those things and will 
>>>>cheat when he can.
>>>>so who knows.
>>>>At 08:43 a.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>Hi Shaun,
>>>>>Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as I 
>>>>>know you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a 
>>>>>train version of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real trains.
>>>>>For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You can 
>>>>>choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can select the 
>>>>>continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS Train 
>>>>>Simulator has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S., and 
>>>>>Japan. Probably others as well.
>>>>>Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a 
>>>>>steam train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in the 
>>>>>fire box at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the fire. 
>>>>>Too little coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the water in 
>>>>>the boiler. Of course you can have the computer handle the job as fireman, 
>>>>>but the computer isn't designed to manage the fire box with maximum 
>>>>>efficiency in mind. Therefore if you let the computer handle the job as 
>>>>>fireman you might not get top speed out of your train.
>>>>>Then, each train has different gages and breaks unique to that train. Some 
>>>>>use the old steam and vacuum breaks and the newer trains use air breaks. 
>>>>>On a steam train you have steam and water gages to keep track of where a 
>>>>>diesel has fuel, speed, etc. As a result you need to practice a bit with 
>>>>>each kind of train to learn how to drive them correctly.
>>>>>Anyway, what I am getting at is I have never heard of racing trains in 
>>>>>Train Simulator. I do know that it is a rather sophisticated train 
>>>>>simulation, and from what I've heard and seen of it the game is totally 
>>>>>mag for train enthusiasts.
>>>>>
>>>>>shaun everiss wrote:
>>>>>>hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or at 
>>>>>>least test it?
>>>>>>Sounds quite fun.
>>>>>>hmm what about train races.
>>>>>>In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can race it I think
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-13 Thread peter Mahach
this thing basically allows you to talk with peopel although you don't have 
them on your contact list, with special commands beginning with a slash key 
to do other things like display who's online.
- Original Message - 
From: "shaun everiss" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found



how will this msn chat work?
I have windows messenger 5.1 does this mean I will have an address I add 
to contacts or what.

as I said nothing fancy.
I have dropbox as I say.
At 08:48 p.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
that's something he would not be able to do in our sim as train speed and 
so on is hardcoded however if people want that changed we can think of 
something. btw I'll be adding you to our dropbox folder and subscribing to 
the chat.

- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found


hmm my friend did mods on a electric train, but then I suspect he doesn't 
play the game properly, he doesn't care to mission on those things and 
will cheat when he can.

so who knows.
At 08:43 a.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,
Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as I 
know you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a 
train version of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real 
trains.
For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You 
can choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can select 
the continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS Train 
Simulator has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S., 
and Japan. Probably others as well.
Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a 
steam train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in 
the fire box at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the 
fire. Too little coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the 
water in the boiler. Of course you can have the computer handle the job 
as fireman, but the computer isn't designed to manage the fire box with 
maximum efficiency in mind. Therefore if you let the computer handle the 
job as fireman you might not get top speed out of your train.
Then, each train has different gages and breaks unique to that train. 
Some use the old steam and vacuum breaks and the newer trains use air 
breaks. On a steam train you have steam and water gages to keep track of 
where a diesel has fuel, speed, etc. As a result you need to practice a 
bit with each kind of train to learn how to drive them correctly.
Anyway, what I am getting at is I have never heard of racing trains in 
Train Simulator. I do know that it is a rather sophisticated train 
simulation, and from what I've heard and seen of it the game is totally 
mag for train enthusiasts.


shaun everiss wrote:
hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or at 
least test it?

Sounds quite fun.
hmm what about train races.
In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can race it I think



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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-13 Thread shaun everiss
how will this msn chat work?
I have windows messenger 5.1 does this mean I will have an address I add to 
contacts or what.
as I said nothing fancy.
I have dropbox as I say.
At 08:48 p.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>that's something he would not be able to do in our sim as train speed and so 
>on is hardcoded however if people want that changed we can think of something. 
>btw I'll be adding you to our dropbox folder and subscribing to the chat.
>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>
>
>>hmm my friend did mods on a electric train, but then I suspect he doesn't 
>>play the game properly, he doesn't care to mission on those things and will 
>>cheat when he can.
>>so who knows.
>>At 08:43 a.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>>>Hi Shaun,
>>>Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as I 
>>>know you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a train 
>>>version of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real trains.
>>>For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You can 
>>>choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can select the 
>>>continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS Train 
>>>Simulator has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S., and 
>>>Japan. Probably others as well.
>>>Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a steam 
>>>train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in the fire 
>>>box at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the fire. Too 
>>>little coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the water in the 
>>>boiler. Of course you can have the computer handle the job as fireman, but 
>>>the computer isn't designed to manage the fire box with maximum efficiency 
>>>in mind. Therefore if you let the computer handle the job as fireman you 
>>>might not get top speed out of your train.
>>>Then, each train has different gages and breaks unique to that train. Some 
>>>use the old steam and vacuum breaks and the newer trains use air breaks. On 
>>>a steam train you have steam and water gages to keep track of where a diesel 
>>>has fuel, speed, etc. As a result you need to practice a bit with each kind 
>>>of train to learn how to drive them correctly.
>>>Anyway, what I am getting at is I have never heard of racing trains in Train 
>>>Simulator. I do know that it is a rather sophisticated train simulation, and 
>>>from what I've heard and seen of it the game is totally mag for train 
>>>enthusiasts.
>>>
>>>shaun everiss wrote:
>>>>hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or at 
>>>>least test it?
>>>>Sounds quite fun.
>>>>hmm what about train races.
>>>>In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can race it I think
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-13 Thread peter Mahach
that's something he would not be able to do in our sim as train speed and so 
on is hardcoded however if people want that changed we can think of 
something. btw I'll be adding you to our dropbox folder and subscribing to 
the chat.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:54 PM
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hmm my friend did mods on a electric train, but then I suspect he doesn't 
play the game properly, he doesn't care to mission on those things and 
will cheat when he can.

so who knows.
At 08:43 a.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,
Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as I 
know you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a 
train version of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real 
trains.
For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You can 
choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can select the 
continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS Train 
Simulator has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S., and 
Japan. Probably others as well.
Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a 
steam train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in the 
fire box at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the fire. 
Too little coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the water in 
the boiler. Of course you can have the computer handle the job as fireman, 
but the computer isn't designed to manage the fire box with maximum 
efficiency in mind. Therefore if you let the computer handle the job as 
fireman you might not get top speed out of your train.
Then, each train has different gages and breaks unique to that train. Some 
use the old steam and vacuum breaks and the newer trains use air breaks. 
On a steam train you have steam and water gages to keep track of where a 
diesel has fuel, speed, etc. As a result you need to practice a bit with 
each kind of train to learn how to drive them correctly.
Anyway, what I am getting at is I have never heard of racing trains in 
Train Simulator. I do know that it is a rather sophisticated train 
simulation, and from what I've heard and seen of it the game is totally 
mag for train enthusiasts.


shaun everiss wrote:
hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or at 
least test it?

Sounds quite fun.
hmm what about train races.
In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can race it I think




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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread Michael Amaro
do you know whare we can hear a demo of Microsoft train simulator.  I would 
like to hear the old steam train
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Hi Shaun,
Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as I 
know you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a 
train version of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real 
trains.
For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You can 
choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can select the 
continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS Train 
Simulator has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S., and 
Japan. Probably others as well.
Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a 
steam train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in the 
fire box at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the fire. 
Too little coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the water in 
the boiler. Of course you can have the computer handle the job as fireman, 
but the computer isn't designed to manage the fire box with maximum 
efficiency in mind. Therefore if you let the computer handle the job as 
fireman you might not get top speed out of your train.
Then, each train has different gages and breaks unique to that train. Some 
use the old steam and vacuum breaks and the newer trains use air breaks. 
On a steam train you have steam and water gages to keep track of where a 
diesel has fuel, speed, etc. As a result you need to practice a bit with 
each kind of train to learn how to drive them correctly.
Anyway, what I am getting at is I have never heard of racing trains in 
Train Simulator. I do know that it is a rather sophisticated train 
simulation, and from what I've heard and seen of it the game is totally 
mag for train enthusiasts.


shaun everiss wrote:
hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or at 
least test it?

Sounds quite fun.
hmm what about train races.
In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can race it I think




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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread Charles Rivard
To me, and I'm not sure if this is correct or not, it seems like a very fun 
sort of an advanced game of trucker, but you have to keep track of what is 
needed to be a train engineer as you progress through the game.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found



Hi Shaun,
Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as I 
know you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a 
train version of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real 
trains.
For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You can 
choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can select the 
continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS Train 
Simulator has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S., and 
Japan. Probably others as well.
Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a 
steam train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in the 
fire box at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the fire. 
Too little coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the water in 
the boiler. Of course you can have the computer handle the job as fireman, 
but the computer isn't designed to manage the fire box with maximum 
efficiency in mind. Therefore if you let the computer handle the job as 
fireman you might not get top speed out of your train.
Then, each train has different gages and breaks unique to that train. Some 
use the old steam and vacuum breaks and the newer trains use air breaks. 
On a steam train you have steam and water gages to keep track of where a 
diesel has fuel, speed, etc. As a result you need to practice a bit with 
each kind of train to learn how to drive them correctly.
Anyway, what I am getting at is I have never heard of racing trains in 
Train Simulator. I do know that it is a rather sophisticated train 
simulation, and from what I've heard and seen of it the game is totally 
mag for train enthusiasts.


shaun everiss wrote:
hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or at 
least test it?

Sounds quite fun.
hmm what about train races.
In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can race it I think




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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread shaun everiss
hmm my friend did mods on a electric train, but then I suspect he doesn't play 
the game properly, he doesn't care to mission on those things and will cheat 
when he can.
so who knows.
At 08:43 a.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Shaun,
>Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as I know 
>you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a train version 
>of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real trains.
>For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You can 
>choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can select the 
>continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS Train Simulator 
>has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S., and Japan. 
>Probably others as well.
>Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a steam 
>train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in the fire box 
>at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the fire. Too little 
>coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the water in the boiler. Of 
>course you can have the computer handle the job as fireman, but the computer 
>isn't designed to manage the fire box with maximum efficiency in mind. 
>Therefore if you let the computer handle the job as fireman you might not get 
>top speed out of your train.
>Then, each train has different gages and breaks unique to that train. Some use 
>the old steam and vacuum breaks and the newer trains use air breaks. On a 
>steam train you have steam and water gages to keep track of where a diesel has 
>fuel, speed, etc. As a result you need to practice a bit with each kind of 
>train to learn how to drive them correctly.
>Anyway, what I am getting at is I have never heard of racing trains in Train 
>Simulator. I do know that it is a rather sophisticated train simulation, and 
>from what I've heard and seen of it the game is totally mag for train 
>enthusiasts.
>
>shaun everiss wrote:
>>hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or at least 
>>test it?
>>Sounds quite fun.
>>hmm what about train races.
>>In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can race it I think
>>  
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Shaun,
Umm...Racing trains in MS Train Simulator? I don't think so. As far as I 
know you can't race trains in Train Simulator. It is very much like a 
train version of MS Flight Simulator in that it models driving real trains.
For example, first you are given a list of trains to choose from. You 
can choose from a diesel, electric, or steam train. Then, you can select 
the continent and route to drive. I don't know what the current MS Train 
Simulator has but I remember you could pick routes in the U.K., U.S., 
and Japan. Probably others as well.
Each train handles completely differently. For example, if you chose a 
steam train you would have to figure how much coal you need to keep in 
the fire box at any given time. Too much coal and you will smother the 
fire. Too little coal and the fire will not get hot enough to boil the 
water in the boiler. Of course you can have the computer handle the job 
as fireman, but the computer isn't designed to manage the fire box with 
maximum efficiency in mind. Therefore if you let the computer handle the 
job as fireman you might not get top speed out of your train.
Then, each train has different gages and breaks unique to that train. 
Some use the old steam and vacuum breaks and the newer trains use air 
breaks. On a steam train you have steam and water gages to keep track of 
where a diesel has fuel, speed, etc. As a result you need to practice a 
bit with each kind of train to learn how to drive them correctly.
Anyway, what I am getting at is I have never heard of racing trains in 
Train Simulator. I do know that it is a rather sophisticated train 
simulation, and from what I've heard and seen of it the game is totally 
mag for train enthusiasts.


shaun everiss wrote:

hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or at least 
test it?
Sounds quite fun.
hmm what about train races.
In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can race it I think
  



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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread peter Mahach

hey,
actually you could do the beta testing for us. you'd have to have an msn 
account to do communication as we use msn groups as the development is quite 
active,
another thing would be to have a dropbox account to have access to the games 
or even the code if you ever decide to help on that front. our things will 
be open source anyway. you can contact me privately with the details and if 
you don't have a dropbox account  I can send you my referal.



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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:44 PM
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I'd love to take a listen to an audio demo, myself!
Keep up the work.
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread Harun
I'd love to take a listen to an audio demo, myself!
Keep up the work.
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm when will we at least be able to see a test version of this or at least 
test it?
Sounds quite fun.
hmm what about train races.
In ms train sim you can modify your train and you can reace it I think
At 12:14 a.m. 13/08/2009, you wrote:
>the sim we are working on has speed limits n such but it's not as advanced. we 
>don't have a time table, but still it's better than open b v e cause you at 
>least know how fast you're going or where you're going. you're driving a steam 
>train for now. the program will announce things like "green leef city station 
>in x miles" and when you get close you'll hear background sounds. there are 
>also misc things you'll be notified about such as factories or rivers along 
>with sound effects and you got a 2 mile long forest that should be good for 
>having fun. the thing is in verry, and I mean verry active development.
>- Original Message - From: "Harun" 
>To: "gamers" 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>
>
>>I thought the same until I found myself engulfed for an hour on night, just 
>>reading about train signals and RTC (Rail Traffic Controllers, like ATC for 
>>aviation).
>>It involves skill. You've got a timetable to keep to, along with signs and 
>>speed limits to obey.
>>We just need to find a way to get these variables accessible. Obviously when 
>>you've got a timetable or a speed limit, the program is reading this data 
>>from somewhere.
>>Hopefully we might find someone who could program a way for the SAPI 
>>interface in windows to read these variables when they change. That's my main 
>>guess as to accessibility.
>>The main menu is partially accessible already, and I can translate the train 
>>and location descriptions into English if they're in Japanese.
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread peter Mahach
the sim we are working on has speed limits n such but it's not as advanced. 
we don't have a time table, but still it's better than open b v e cause you 
at least know how fast you're going or where you're going. you're driving a 
steam train for now. the program will announce things like "green leef city 
station in x miles" and when you get close you'll hear background sounds. 
there are also misc things you'll be notified about such as factories or 
rivers along with sound effects and you got a 2 mile long forest that should 
be good for having fun. the thing is in verry, and I mean verry active 
development.
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To: "gamers" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found


I thought the same until I found myself engulfed for an hour on night, just 
reading about train signals and RTC (Rail Traffic Controllers, like ATC for 
aviation).
It involves skill. You've got a timetable to keep to, along with signs and 
speed limits to obey.
We just need to find a way to get these variables accessible. Obviously 
when you've got a timetable or a speed limit, the program is reading this 
data from somewhere.
Hopefully we might find someone who could program a way for the SAPI 
interface in windows to read these variables when they change. That's my 
main guess as to accessibility.
The main menu is partially accessible already, and I can translate the 
train and location descriptions into English if they're in Japanese.

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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread Harun
I thought the same until I found myself engulfed for an hour on night, just 
reading about train signals and RTC (Rail Traffic Controllers, like ATC for 
aviation).
It involves skill. You've got a timetable to keep to, along with signs and 
speed limits to obey.
We just need to find a way to get these variables accessible. Obviously when 
you've got a timetable or a speed limit, the program is reading this data from 
somewhere.
Hopefully we might find someone who could program a way for the SAPI interface 
in windows to read these variables when they change. That's my main guess as to 
accessibility. 
The main menu is partially accessible already, and I can translate the train 
and location descriptions into English if they're in Japanese.
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread peter Mahach
I guess we no longer have to be keeping things to our selves. there is a 
train sim being worked on, the basics are done and now we're working on 
populating the track.


- Original Message - 
From: "Valiant8086" 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:46 AM
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Hmm. I wonder how such a train simulator would work. Would you just be 
cruising along going past stations and stuff like that?


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 From: Michael Amaro

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 Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found


 What would be cool if we could find a train simulator with the old steam
 trains. sounds and all that
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Harun" 

 To: "gamers" 
 Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found


 > Good news. I've done some poking around an I've found an open-source 
Train

 > Sim.
 > It's called "Open BVE". The main menu is the most accessible of the 
Train

 > Sims I've tried.
 > Here's my rundown. Keep in mind this is days old in my head, so it 
hasn't

 > been fleshed out much.
 >
 > OpenBVE: Main Menu partially accessible. There's a radio button with
 > "Start new game", "Review last game", "Controls", and "Options" that I
 > can't get to with NVDA.
 > MSTS (Microsoft Train Simulator): Main menu not accessible.
 > Railworks: Main menu not accessible.
 > Trainz 2009: Main menu not accessible.
 >
 > Download site:
 > http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/common/openbve_stable.zip
 >
 > Dependencies:
 > http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/use/download_windows.html
 > -Follow this! Took me a few hours of tinkering to finally get it to 
work.

 > Maybe I can ZIP a working copy for others.
 >
 > Youtube vid with audio:
 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLhUXfKGt-Y
 > -Sounds quite good for freeware!
 >
 > Since OpenBVE is open-source, we might be able to ask the developers to
 > add sounds to actions (brakes release, brakes applied, etc)
 > and indicators for variables (speed, block speed limit, next block 
speed,

 > signal status, etc etc)
 > I've used an old program, "FS2002FA", to issue voice commands to the 
sim,
 > and it seems to work great. "Increase throttle", "Emergency brake", and 
so

 > on.
 >
 > I'll try to make an audio demo next week after my hellish gov't final 
is

 > done.
 >
 > Let's hope this can be made a reality!
 >
 > Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread shaun everiss
well if all I was going to do was going passed stations, stop at stations, etc 
I'd get bored really quick.
At 07:46 p.m. 12/08/2009, you wrote:
>Hmm. I wonder how such a train simulator would work. Would you just be 
>cruising along going past stations and stuff like that?
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Michael Amaro 
>  To: fusoya_1...@hotmail.com ; Gamers Discussion list 
>  Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:57 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>
>
>  What would be cool if we could find a train simulator with the old steam 
>  trains. sounds and all that
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: "Harun" 
>  To: "gamers" 
>  Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:15 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>
>
>  > Good news. I've done some poking around an I've found an open-source Train 
>  > Sim.
>  > It's called "Open BVE". The main menu is the most accessible of the Train 
>  > Sims I've tried.
>  > Here's my rundown. Keep in mind this is days old in my head, so it hasn't 
>  > been fleshed out much.
>  >
>  > OpenBVE: Main Menu partially accessible. There's a radio button with 
>  > "Start new game", "Review last game", "Controls", and "Options" that I 
>  > can't get to with NVDA.
>  > MSTS (Microsoft Train Simulator): Main menu not accessible.
>  > Railworks: Main menu not accessible.
>  > Trainz 2009: Main menu not accessible.
>  >
>  > Download site:
>  > http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/common/openbve_stable.zip
>  >
>  > Dependencies:
>  > http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/use/download_windows.html
>  > -Follow this! Took me a few hours of tinkering to finally get it to work. 
>  > Maybe I can ZIP a working copy for others.
>  >
>  > Youtube vid with audio:
>  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLhUXfKGt-Y
>  > -Sounds quite good for freeware!
>  >
>  > Since OpenBVE is open-source, we might be able to ask the developers to 
>  > add sounds to actions (brakes release, brakes applied, etc)
>  > and indicators for variables (speed, block speed limit, next block speed, 
>  > signal status, etc etc)
>  > I've used an old program, "FS2002FA", to issue voice commands to the sim, 
>  > and it seems to work great. "Increase throttle", "Emergency brake", and so 
>  > on.
>  >
>  > I'll try to make an audio demo next week after my hellish gov't final is 
>  > done.
>  >
>  > Let's hope this can be made a reality!
>  >
>  > Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-12 Thread Valiant8086
Hmm. I wonder how such a train simulator would work. Would you just be cruising 
along going past stations and stuff like that?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Amaro 
  To: fusoya_1...@hotmail.com ; Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found


  What would be cool if we could find a train simulator with the old steam 
  trains. sounds and all that
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Harun" 
  To: "gamers" 
  Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found


  > Good news. I've done some poking around an I've found an open-source Train 
  > Sim.
  > It's called "Open BVE". The main menu is the most accessible of the Train 
  > Sims I've tried.
  > Here's my rundown. Keep in mind this is days old in my head, so it hasn't 
  > been fleshed out much.
  >
  > OpenBVE: Main Menu partially accessible. There's a radio button with 
  > "Start new game", "Review last game", "Controls", and "Options" that I 
  > can't get to with NVDA.
  > MSTS (Microsoft Train Simulator): Main menu not accessible.
  > Railworks: Main menu not accessible.
  > Trainz 2009: Main menu not accessible.
  >
  > Download site:
  > http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/common/openbve_stable.zip
  >
  > Dependencies:
  > http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/use/download_windows.html
  > -Follow this! Took me a few hours of tinkering to finally get it to work. 
  > Maybe I can ZIP a working copy for others.
  >
  > Youtube vid with audio:
  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLhUXfKGt-Y
  > -Sounds quite good for freeware!
  >
  > Since OpenBVE is open-source, we might be able to ask the developers to 
  > add sounds to actions (brakes release, brakes applied, etc)
  > and indicators for variables (speed, block speed limit, next block speed, 
  > signal status, etc etc)
  > I've used an old program, "FS2002FA", to issue voice commands to the sim, 
  > and it seems to work great. "Increase throttle", "Emergency brake", and so 
  > on.
  >
  > I'll try to make an audio demo next week after my hellish gov't final is 
  > done.
  >
  > Let's hope this can be made a reality!
  >
  > Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-08 Thread shaun everiss
good.
just tried it couldn't make heads or tails of it the menu works but thats that.
I think a version with the install  for openall and the required tao network 
run and lib files so I don't have to install tao.
At 01:03 p.m. 8/08/2009, you wrote:
>I'll check out OpenBVE. I believe it has missions. Freight and passenger.
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-07 Thread Bryan Mckinnish

Hi.
I downloaded open bve.
I haven't tryed it yet. DOes it come with a train or do you have to 
install them seperatly?

Also, I know it's old, but where can I get spoorsim?
Thanks.
Bryan Mckinnish

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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-07 Thread Harun
I'll check out OpenBVE. I believe it has missions. Freight and passenger.
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-07 Thread shaun everiss
well there is spoorsim.
although they really didn't develop it and it was prity boring, yeah you could 
control the train somewhat but whats the point if you  just go round, back and 
forth.
with no real missions, etc.
I can take off in fs2002 and just fly round and not land or anything and just 
get bored real quick.
At 12:57 p.m. 8/08/2009, you wrote:
>What would be cool if we could find a train simulator with the old steam 
>trains. sounds and all that
>- Original Message - From: "Harun" 
>To: "gamers" 
>Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
>
>
>>Good news. I've done some poking around an I've found an open-source Train 
>>Sim.
>>It's called "Open BVE". The main menu is the most accessible of the Train 
>>Sims I've tried.
>>Here's my rundown. Keep in mind this is days old in my head, so it hasn't 
>>been fleshed out much.
>>
>>OpenBVE: Main Menu partially accessible. There's a radio button with "Start 
>>new game", "Review last game", "Controls", and "Options" that I can't get to 
>>with NVDA.
>>MSTS (Microsoft Train Simulator): Main menu not accessible.
>>Railworks: Main menu not accessible.
>>Trainz 2009: Main menu not accessible.
>>
>>Download site:
>>http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/common/openbve_stable.zip
>>
>>Dependencies:
>>http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/use/download_windows.html
>>-Follow this! Took me a few hours of tinkering to finally get it to work. 
>>Maybe I can ZIP a working copy for others.
>>
>>Youtube vid with audio:
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLhUXfKGt-Y
>>-Sounds quite good for freeware!
>>
>>Since OpenBVE is open-source, we might be able to ask the developers to add 
>>sounds to actions (brakes release, brakes applied, etc)
>>and indicators for variables (speed, block speed limit, next block speed, 
>>signal status, etc etc)
>>I've used an old program, "FS2002FA", to issue voice commands to the sim, and 
>>it seems to work great. "Increase throttle", "Emergency brake", and so on.
>>
>>I'll try to make an audio demo next week after my hellish gov't final is done.
>>
>>Let's hope this can be made a reality!
>>
>>Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-07 Thread Michael Amaro
What would be cool if we could find a train simulator with the old steam 
trains. sounds and all that
- Original Message - 
From: "Harun" 

To: "gamers" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found


Good news. I've done some poking around an I've found an open-source Train 
Sim.
It's called "Open BVE". The main menu is the most accessible of the Train 
Sims I've tried.
Here's my rundown. Keep in mind this is days old in my head, so it hasn't 
been fleshed out much.


OpenBVE: Main Menu partially accessible. There's a radio button with 
"Start new game", "Review last game", "Controls", and "Options" that I 
can't get to with NVDA.

MSTS (Microsoft Train Simulator): Main menu not accessible.
Railworks: Main menu not accessible.
Trainz 2009: Main menu not accessible.

Download site:
http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/common/openbve_stable.zip

Dependencies:
http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/use/download_windows.html
-Follow this! Took me a few hours of tinkering to finally get it to work. 
Maybe I can ZIP a working copy for others.


Youtube vid with audio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLhUXfKGt-Y
-Sounds quite good for freeware!

Since OpenBVE is open-source, we might be able to ask the developers to 
add sounds to actions (brakes release, brakes applied, etc)
and indicators for variables (speed, block speed limit, next block speed, 
signal status, etc etc)
I've used an old program, "FS2002FA", to issue voice commands to the sim, 
and it seems to work great. "Increase throttle", "Emergency brake", and so 
on.


I'll try to make an audio demo next week after my hellish gov't final is 
done.


Let's hope this can be made a reality!

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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-07 Thread shaun everiss
well its good you have the trainsim thing going.
will try this, my recognition does not work right now but if I can access this 
with the keyboard then cool.
At 11:15 a.m. 8/08/2009, you wrote:
>Good news. I've done some poking around an I've found an open-source Train 
>Sim. 
>It's called "Open BVE". The main menu is the most accessible of the Train Sims 
>I've tried.
>Here's my rundown. Keep in mind this is days old in my head, so it hasn't been 
>fleshed out much.
>
>OpenBVE: Main Menu partially accessible. There's a radio button with "Start 
>new game", "Review last game", "Controls", and "Options" that I can't get to 
>with NVDA.
>MSTS (Microsoft Train Simulator): Main menu not accessible.
>Railworks: Main menu not accessible.
>Trainz 2009: Main menu not accessible.
>
>Download site: 
>http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/common/openbve_stable.zip 
>
>Dependencies: 
>http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/use/download_windows.html 
>-Follow this! Took me a few hours of tinkering to finally get it to work. 
>Maybe I can ZIP a working copy for others. 
>
>Youtube vid with audio: 
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLhUXfKGt-Y
>-Sounds quite good for freeware!
>
>Since OpenBVE is open-source, we might be able to ask the developers to add 
>sounds to actions (brakes release, brakes applied, etc) 
>and indicators for variables (speed, block speed limit, next block speed, 
>signal status, etc etc)
>I've used an old program, "FS2002FA", to issue voice commands to the sim, and 
>it seems to work great. "Increase throttle", "Emergency brake", and so on.
>
>I'll try to make an audio demo next week after my hellish gov't final is done.
>
>Let's hope this can be made a reality!
>
>Cheers,
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Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found

2009-08-07 Thread Harun
Good news. I've done some poking around an I've found an open-source Train Sim. 
It's called "Open BVE". The main menu is the most accessible of the Train Sims 
I've tried.
Here's my rundown. Keep in mind this is days old in my head, so it hasn't been 
fleshed out much.

OpenBVE: Main Menu partially accessible. There's a radio button with "Start new 
game", "Review last game", "Controls", and "Options" that I can't get to with 
NVDA.
MSTS (Microsoft Train Simulator): Main menu not accessible.
Railworks: Main menu not accessible.
Trainz 2009: Main menu not accessible.

Download site: 
http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/common/openbve_stable.zip 

Dependencies: 
http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/use/download_windows.html 
-Follow this! Took me a few hours of tinkering to finally get it to work. Maybe 
I can ZIP a working copy for others. 

Youtube vid with audio: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLhUXfKGt-Y
-Sounds quite good for freeware!

Since OpenBVE is open-source, we might be able to ask the developers to add 
sounds to actions (brakes release, brakes applied, etc) 
and indicators for variables (speed, block speed limit, next block speed, 
signal status, etc etc)
I've used an old program, "FS2002FA", to issue voice commands to the sim, and 
it seems to work great. "Increase throttle", "Emergency brake", and so on.

I'll try to make an audio demo next week after my hellish gov't final is done.

Let's hope this can be made a reality!

Cheers,
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