i say if you would attend,
the challenge is to organize one
(said by the serial attender)
the nice thing about glamcamp
was training; empowering editors to organize events;
it could start as a low cost, wikisalon, then move to editathon
(if you build some contacts with an institution)
does take
there is a lack of continuity studying editing behaviors,
it is all one-off studies, not longitudinal
they only know editor decline because it's an easy data dump.
that said, there is some data from editations being gathered by eval
testing group.
we fund editathons because the primary goal is
A few of us live in the dc area as well.
Also in re gards to the google group that russavia started. I think that was
done in good faith to allow a more interactive venue where people could chat
more real time rather than in a moderated email list. So i wouldnt get too
upset about the
Just making the boundaries clear I expect, as one has to do with adolescents and such as the Manchester Circle chapter of Wikipedia ...
Heres an example of harassment that was flung my way yesterday. I have an account at acadmia.edu https://vam.academia.edu/MarinkavanDam. It is openly
Dodbot has been down for a long time. I think the only assessment bots are run
be either anomie, magioladitis and possibly going batty.
I would suggest manually verifying the subcats before assessing. Often time the
subcats arent intuitive.
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wikimedia dc gave out some awards
(no money involved, plaque)
https://www.facebook.com/wikimediadc
i'm sure Keilana could be prevailed upon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keilana
i was trying to test a ribbon and barnstar (re-gifted from mindspillage)
one take away is how few voters there are.
we have a lot of feminist editathons coming up
should we consider recruiting at events to get new editors over 150 edits,
with a view of block voting in next year's election?
if we organize now, we could run a civility slate of candidates.
On Tue, Dec
Now that the Arbcom case has concluded and the punishments have been
imposed, I just wanted to welcome Carolmooredc and Neotarf to the list of
editors who have been banned from Wikipedia. I now its a hard pill to
swallow, but all good editors end up here eventually if they stay long
enough, so
Unfortunately some made sure that i couldnt vote this year, partly because i
was an outspoken critic of the incompetence of arbcom. There are several i
would have supported and opposed.
Its also worth noting that the only openly gay candidate has been the subject
of some pretty viscious
I totally agree that the arbcom has lost the interest of most of the community
and that there used to be more candidates and more voters. I believe this is
reflected in a combination of the drop in editors, the drop in admins and in
the progressively worse job the arbcom is doing. The take very
Yes, Ive been inconvenienced by this group too. Ive already reported them as spam to Google and have warned them if they bother me again I shall report them to Google abuse. This Russian Aviatiion character went as far as to analyze the Google Analytics code on my personal website, in a bid
It's worth additionally noting that as far as I can tell Russia Aviation is
associated with a real-world group that has previously doxxed editors with
severe consequences, and has a specific agenda that has nothing to do with
gender gap issues. I'm keeping them off the list as best I can, but
On 9 December 2014 at 09:37, Jim Hayes slowki...@gmail.com wrote:
one take away is how few voters there are.
we have a lot of feminist editathons coming up
should we consider recruiting at events to get new editors over 150 edits,
with a view of block voting in next year's election?
if we
I totally disagree. Arbco. Decisions have a huge impact on the community even
if the majority of the community doesnt see it. Since you mention discretionary
sanctions, that is an area where i have seen abused many times. Some admins who
like power frequently hide behind ds's and use them as a
I bet the majority of people 1) have no clue what arbcom is 2) probably
don't care much if they do because most people won't end up there
So someone will surely have to invest a lot of time and money in educating
a lot of people who only edit occasionally about Arbcom.
I have been editing
I agree with all Jim says here. I also think the incentive of regular
editing is too low - why hangout on Wikipedia after a long day at work or
school or caring for a child when you can space out with Netflix or do
something with more incentive (I am knee deep in Wikidata right nowand
have
Russavia claims he did not start it.
On Dec 10, 2014 6:09 AM, regu...@gmail.com regu...@gmail.com wrote:
A few of us live in the dc area as well.
Also in re gards to the google group that russavia started. I think that
was done in good faith to allow a more interactive venue where people
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job. This was a targeted attack
on Russavia by someone deliberately pretending to be them.
It's a malicious form of attack intended to have Wikimedians take
action on each other in error in order to cause disruption. With more
sophisticated spoofing going on
Thanks, i take back everything i said. I have never more wrong. I have since
found out that isnt russavia nor do i beli leve that group was started in good
faith. I have since remived myself from it.
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i take the point that arbcom is overrated
we see how difficult it is for them to enforce even site bans as in the
case of betacommand
and the point that it takes away from talking about image uploads or
infoboxes at editathons.
it is optimistic to imagine that we can train newbies to get to 150
Is there a term (like joe job) for when someone pretends to be you to get
you into trouble? In my case, after I'd already been blocked for a week, an
IP address deleted some info
That is joe jobbing.
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From: LB
Date: Wed, Dec 10, 2014 11:58 AM
To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation
of women within Wikimedia projects.;
Subject:Re: [Gendergap] a gender gap meet-up?
Is
Let's just call it what it is - internet fraud...
On 12/10/2014 12:02 PM, regu...@gmail.com wrote:
That is joe jobbing.
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*From: *LB
*Date: *Wed, Dec 10, 2014 11:58 AM
*To: *Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to
No, nothing described below constitutes fraud of any kind.
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net
wrote:
Let's just call it what it is - internet fraud...
On 12/10/2014 12:02 PM, regu...@gmail.com wrote:
That is joe jobbing.
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That depends on how you interpret it. No monetary gain was there but they a r e
userping someones identity for personal gain.
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From: Nathan
Date: Wed, Dec 10, 2014 12:49 PM
To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to
On 12/10/2014 12:47 PM, Nathan wrote:
No, nothing described below constitutes fraud of any kind.
On 12/10/2014 1:01 PM, regu...@gmail.com wrote:
That depends on how you interpret it. No monetary gain was there but
they a r e userping someones identity for personal gain.
How do you know?
This NY Times article - Learning to Love Criticism by Tara Mohrsept -
itself has been criticized for downplaying the negative effects constant
criticism has on women; salient quotes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/28/opinion/sunday/learning-to-love-criticism.html?_r=0
/A NEW study by the
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net
wrote:
How do you know?
For example, maybe there are secretly for profit, paid editors
on Wikipedia who feel threatened by more Admin and/or
Foundation scrutiny of the kind that some editors have
been promoting,
Speculation on the monetary gain definition of fraud is lots of
fun. However, we all know fraud has a wider meaning as
two dictionary definitions show.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fraud
1 a : deceit, trickery; specifically : intentional perversion of truth
in order to induce
Good points carol and i would add that i dont trust the checkuser tool more
than 50%. Its easy to fool, hard to read the data and interpret the results.
90% of it is gut instinct and spotting vocal trends and writing style by the
user. I have seen first hand that not only is it prone to error,
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net
wrote:
Speculation on the monetary gain definition of fraud is lots of
fun. However, we all know fraud has a wider meaning as
two dictionary definitions show.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fraud
1 a :
Carol said:
I do think there are structural things that can be imposed by the
Wikimedia Foundation to make reforms happen. (Whether they'll choose the
right reforms and the right people to make them happen is a whole 'nother
story.) *But the purpose of this thread is not to discuss
I agree with most of what risker says. There are several groups on the project
that exert undue influence over their articles whether male or female. If the
wmf gets involvedvat all, it should be to ensure that policies are enforced
evenly throughout the project and these,power cabals are
Unfortunately despite multiple complaints about this group hijacking
users from a Wikimedia list by maliciously harvesting email addresses,
Google has yet to take any visible action.
Fae
I unsubscribed from that group after some particularly vitriolic abuse
directed at Fae, something
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Does anyone have a proposed action plan to do anything about this?
On Dec 10, 2014 3:05 PM, regu...@gmail.com regu...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with most of what risker says. There are several groups on the
project that exert undue influence over their articles whether male or
female. If the
Agree with Anne her first, with the proviso its not only point of view at stake but honest to goodness vested interests as well; obviously so for the academics who hold tenure, or at least gain status, on the strength of their wikipedia contributions, and the rising younger generation who
On 12/10/2014 5:14 PM, JJ Marr wrote:
Does anyone have a proposed action plan to do anything about this?
First, there definitely are all kinds of groupings and cliques and maybe
even a couple dominated by women. Given it was one particular group of
guys and their allies that went after GGTF,
Yes, constructive and I shall watch with interest.Willing to do my bit exposing, but find Im having to learn PHP (a website scripting language) first to accomplish what I want to do.
Marinka
On December 10, 2014 at 7:02 PM Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote:On 12/10/2014
I don't think most disputes get resolved. I think one person simply gives
up. Maybe they don't think the issue is that important, maybe they feel that
they don't have the time to argue it, maybe they feel that the other person
involved is too unpleasant to want to try to engage with, maybe they've
What’s missing from this?:
I don’t think most disputes get “resolved”. I think one person simply gives
up. Maybe they don’t think the issue is that important, maybe they feel that
they don’t have the time to argue it, maybe they feel that the other person
involved is too unpleasant to want to
I do agree that people often work out their disputes, but i have also seen, and
been involved in, cases where the one with the ability to block wins. That is
the sort of thing that not only drives people out of the project, but also
causes them to advocate against the project to people they
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