-Original Message-
From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship;attbi.com]
Sent: 20 October 2002 14:36
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta
I don't have a way to qualify this, but I'm very concerned about
growing
the
community, and therefore I'm
So Tapestry seems to have attracted a healthy following and the
attention of such notables as Marc Fleury (Whom I think is a technically
proficient and thoroughly decent okay guy...and he likes altoids more
than I do):
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=1165034forum_id=7644
On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 17:53, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Being the big moron I am, I don't see any of these issues to be as
important as: 1. Do they develop in the apache way, 2. Is it a
vibrant robust community, 3. Is there any point at all. . .
The point is apache had a project with similar
Just FYI, you have failed to provide sufficient outside-of-jakarta
marketing. Where I work, lots of people talk about maybe we should use
cactus, and heck there are those who use all sorts of things from the
Java Developers Journal that they have insufficient knowledge and
experience to carry
on 2002/10/19 3:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there -- On Saturday 10/19/02 at 18:33 EST, I tried to look up bugs
regarding what I can do to fix Ant.bat so it will work on Windows98 and every
time I would get onto the Bugzilla page, my AOL browser would just freeze up
Well, looking at the docs for SPFC I can see the following differences right
off the bat:
It looks a bit more like Swinglets and the others, in that it uses or mimics
the Swing APIs. You assemble your pages in code, i.e., create a Form
object, add a TextField object and a Button object, and
I don't have a way to qualify this, but I'm very concerned about growing the
community, and therefore I'm very careful not to be arbitrary. Everything
is a discussion, and I prefer that person X be happy with the ultimate
decision, preferably agreeing with it.
I've tried to before to spur more
Hi there -- On Saturday 10/19/02 at 18:33 EST, I tried to look up bugs
regarding what I can do to fix Ant.bat so it will work on Windows98 and every
time I would get onto the Bugzilla page, my AOL browser would just freeze up
and I couldn't even move my mouse or do anything with my keyboard.
Thats why one should look at whether it has an existing community... if
it does, question answered. If not...well there is something else.
-Andy
The point is apache had a project with similar ideas and it died. Was
it ahead of its time? Or are there fundamental problems with the
approach
Hi Andrew,
-Original Message-
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver;apache.org]
Sent: 20 October 2002 16:09
To: 'Jakarta General List'
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta
Just FYI, you have failed to provide sufficient outside-of-jakarta
marketing.
Thanks for the
my AOL browser
YUK!
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On 10/19/02 8:57 PM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 09:40, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
on 2002/10/19 4:22 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to start a new project for a new Servlet Container that is not
Tomcat! :-) Let's see how many fans I'm going to
On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Ellis Teer wrote:
Note: I don't like too much the stats from webalizer and I have started
using awstats
I've been a webalizer user too. It suffices.
(http://jakarta.apache.org/~vmassol/awstats/awstats.jakarta.apache.org.h
tml) as an experiment. Much better stats I
I'm sorry to have insulted you. I was only trying to help. Based on
what you said, the observations I'd had from where I work and what I'd
observed. If my observations were incorrect I apologize.
Hey, your observations may be right and I appreciate your help! ;-)
My strong reaction
-Original Message-
From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard;generationjava.com]
Sent: 20 October 2002 20:36
To: Jakarta General List
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Is Cactus successful (was RE: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins
Jakarta)
On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Vincent Massol wrote:
Ok I want to be positive and try to see if there's anything I can do to
improve the overall Cactus community. You say Cactus might be missing
some marketing muscles. I would like to believe that. From the
information in my email do you still
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Being the big moron I am, I don't see any of these issues to be as
important as: 1. Do they develop in the apache way, 2. Is it a
vibrant robust community, 3. Is there any point at all. . .
I see little point in having 30 persistence APIs or 30 connection pools,
On Thu, 1 Jan 1970 09:59, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Again my biggest concern is your assertion that you should adopt the
voting rules, etc. after joining. My opinion is that you should adopt
them, get them working.
+1
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Peter Donald
Duct tape is like the force. It has a light
John McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 20/10/2002 04:29:17 AM:
[snip]
As much as I hate it, JSP is the recognized standard for webapp
development. Jakarta's development of a general purpose java templating
technology, Velocity, is a valid alternative and is not even in direct
conflict with
-Original Message-
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver;apache.org]
Sent: 20 October 2002 18:32
To: 'Jakarta General List'
Subject: Re: Is Cactus successful (was RE: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins
Jakarta)
Just FYI, you have failed to provide sufficient outside-of-jakarta
On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 12:45, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
Marc Fluery is (or, at least, comes across as) a jerk with some good ideas.
Unlike most folks who have used Tapestry, he didn't ask for clarifications
or make suggestions or enter into a dialog ... he made demands. When I
asked that he
Struts 1.1 has something called tiles that are can be used for re-use,
and at run time a tile can be bound to different beans, and more
advanced capabilities.
http://www.lifl.fr/~dumoulin/tiles/doc/tutorialBody.html
and an advanced PDF (in doco of basicPortal which uses tiles and else
where).
Sourceforge it and let people play (or commons-sandbox it and see where it
goes).
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:05, Henri Yandell wrote:
If anyone is ever interested, I have the foundation of a Java 'LogView'
project currently sitting in my personal projects. The idea being that
it's your usual
At 09:00 PM 10/20/2002 -0400, V. Cekvenich wrote:
Struts 1.1 has something called tiles that are can be used for re-use, and
at run time a tile can be bound to different beans, and more advanced
capabilities.
http://www.lifl.fr/~dumoulin/tiles/doc/tutorialBody.html
and an advanced PDF (in doco
Marc Fluery is (or, at least, comes across as) a jerk with some good ideas.
Unlike most folks who have used Tapestry, he didn't ask for clarifications
or make suggestions or enter into a dialog ... he made demands. When I
asked that he actually participate, he dropped off the list. He's
-Original Message-
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver;apache.org]
Sent: 20 October 2002 19:03
To: Vincent Massol
Cc: 'Jakarta General List'
Subject: RE: Is Cactus successful (was RE: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins
Jakarta)
I'm sorry to have insulted you. I was only trying
If you check the cactus stats
(http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/stats/index.html), you will find it is
receiving quite a lot of attention (1500-2500 visits per day). It gets
between 500-1500 downloads per day which is quite honorable for such a
niche project (not only it is unit testing but only
Vic,
I'm acutely aware of Tiles and they are inscrutable to the average user.
There are also lots of issues with Tiles fitting in with Struts 1.1 beta
from memory.
It's telling that the documentation you give is from outside of the struts
doc
news [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/10/2002
Just FYI, you have failed to provide sufficient outside-of-jakarta
marketing.
Thanks for the information! You know what I like about you? It is the
faith that you have in yourself and in the fact that you know it all...
I'm sorry to have insulted you. I was only trying to help.
Along with POI we got Andrew
Oliver... :)
Oh gosh don't say things like that or we'll never approve new projects
;-)
--Jeff
PS: +1 for adding Tapestry from me btw.
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