Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

| > The problem, AFAIU, is that this Maven's code now has to become LGPL licensed | > itself, due to LGPL license requirements. And ASF repositories can't contain | > LGPL code. So the answer is to pull (quickly) this code from Maven, and not to | > introduce to Slide. | | Incorrect. Unless maven c

Re: [PATCH] promoted sub-projects

links someplace. I didn't understand what had happened when I was coming in tho check for updates on Ant! I just couldn't find it!! And then, after some browsing around, I found the "news" item about the "move-on".. -- Mvh, Endre Stølsvik M[+47 93054050]

Re: IDE Developers' guide

estPractices cute! ;) -- Mvh, Endre Stølsvik M[+47 93054050] F[+47 51625182] Developer @ CoreTrek AS - http://www.coretrek.com/ CoreTrek corporate portal / EIP - http://www.corelets.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands

Re: IDE Developers' guide

des we have, the less idiots we will have. Put in one about not being an idiot on the mailing lists too, then? -- Mvh, Endre Stølsvik M[+47 93054050] F[+47 51625182] Developer @ CoreTrek AS - http://www.coretrek.com/ CoreTrek corporate portal / EIP - http://www.corelets.c

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

ation API Specification"? [http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=121] - Public Review phase right now... Looks simple, easy and very important - finally the Java can be used as a operating system.. -- Mvh, Endre Stølsvik M[+47 93054050] F[+47 51625182] Developer @ CoreTrek AS

Re: Trademarks, copyright etc

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: | "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > Does anyone have pointers as to how we can use the project names legally in | > our work, e.g. we do consulting using Apache Ant, Apache Struts etc. Do | > there need to be (tm)s there? Are the proje

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Danny Angus wrote: | did anyone else get this "sponsored link" on the google "jakarta" results | page? | | "Jakarta - Are your business web sites and J2EE applications Unbreakable? | www.oracle.com | FREE Oracle High Availability Middleware Strategy Guide!"

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: | "Gunnar Rønning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > * Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > > | > > > Jakarta | > > Annoying.. | > | > Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On 29 Apr 2002, Gunnar Rønning wrote: | * Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | | | | Jakarta | | Annoying.. | | Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta | is a community developing software based on Java. Argh! Of course.. It should be obligat

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: | On 4/29/02 10:33 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > On 29 Apr 2002, Leo Simons wrote: | > | > | Apache | > The original Apache is called Apache HTTPD now, isn't it? But yes, | > annoying.

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On 29 Apr 2002, Leo Simons wrote: | BTW, I've found that "hardcore coding" is absolutely _the_ place for | what you call "stupid names": | | linux It's a _unix_ operation system, made by Linus. There is some convention of the use of a X for a Unix OS, or something like that. Whatever. | GNU

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | One more thing, come up with a more creative name. :-) | | The whole FooBar4J thing is tired IMHO. May I say that the whole Jakarta naming scheme is really tired, imho. What does "Velocity" do? What does "Tomcat" do? What does any of these stupid n

Re: Jakarta Overview

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Ceki Gülcü wrote: | | Isn't the "overview" document trying to substitute itself for the | documentation that is already in subprojects (or should be)? No. It's an overview of what's "inside" of jakarta. Great! | The cornerstone of the Jakarta and Apache Software Foundation

Re: Jakarta Overview

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Waldhoff, Rodney wrote: | Well said Andrew. | | Re. Chris's point, I think we'll be hard pressed to reach consensus on what | a project "maturity" means, let alone how to measure it. | | If I were building this document (and if I remember correctly, I built this | document: h

Re: JakartaOne

On 11 Mar 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: | On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 05:19, GOMEZ Henri wrote: | > Any luck that a JakartaOne will ever be in Europe, | > even better in Paris ? | > | | Heck from the East Coast US right now its cheaper to fly/stay in Europe | than the west coast (go figure). For kicks

Re: JakartaOne : Plan

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: | On 3/12/02 6:36 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: | > | > | Enough people have expressed interest in Jakarta One that I believe we | > | should go f

Re: JakartaOne : Plan

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: | Enough people have expressed interest in Jakarta One that I believe we | should go forward, at least as a social gathering so we can see what we all | look like. Do you guys know about "JBossOne"? It's apparently going to be located "right across

Re: Problem installing Jarkarta-Tomcat

On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Danny Angus wrote: | Hi, | although this question would be more likely to get an accurate answer on the | tomcat mailing lists: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html "idiot.html" - no less. How _nice_.. What about "ignorant" or some other not so rude word? -- Mvh, End

Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

On 29 Jan 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: | I'll subscribe. | | (Hey you Endre ...see what just happened) Yes! And it's all my fault! ;-] heh-heh! ,) Endre -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > | What would you like to see happen? Should we wipe the site with | > | something that has no activity? Should Jserv die because the last | > | re

Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

On 29 Jan 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: | On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:22, Scott Sanders wrote: | > Yes. I have been thinking that Exchange needs an OSS competitor. I can | > plug in WebDAV support and then right some plugins for Outlook and | > voila, the user would never know the difference. | >

Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

| > As a complement to this: how is the "deprecating" system of | > Jakarta? If a project "dies", that nobody seems to update it, | > the list dies or something like this, does it die away from | > Jakarta too? | | What would you like to see happen? Should we wipe the site with | something that

Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | Endre, you clearly have a personal bias against me. If you would like to | continue to express it, you are free to do so. However, your complete lack | of contributions around here, other than expressing your bias against me, is | making you look li

Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

You soon got me cornered here now..! | > | > 2) If a guy that's already within Jakarta decides that he'll make a nice, | > | > thight, _small_ little library, it seems like getting it into Jakarta just | > | > takes a cvs commit. Even top level. | > | | > | No way. I'm a guy in Jakarta. I have

Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

| What's the point? | | They will still always be separate communities in separate CVS repositories. | | Let me put it another way : what problem are we trying to solve? Me coming to the front page and trying to understand what Jakarta is all about. "Browsing" it.. Reading about all the cool tec

Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | on 1/29/02 12:31 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > How is it possible that such a small, little, tiny project happens to be | > at the top level of Jakarta? | > | > Ahh.. Jon Stevens.. There we have

ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

How is it possible that such a small, little, tiny project happens to be at the top level of Jakarta? Ahh.. Jon Stevens.. There we have it. WHY are there so many small, little tiny projects at the top of Jakarta? Ever heard of "grouping", "trees" and things like this? Could be useful.. Really w

Re: Code conventions

On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: | My question is what are the consequences to forcing me to do #2 when #1 is | perfectly acceptable throughout the professional world? That syntax is so bleedin' ugly that I would suspect you were a novice not knowing how to code.. ;) PROFESSIONALS

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | It is amazing to me...with all the discussion about coding styles and | following them, we still have people committing code that doesn't follow | what rules we do have... | | on 1/3/02 11:00 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | Re:

Re: Comment for Apache.org

On 10 Dec 2001, Kevin A. Burton - burtonator wrote: | Give jon a break. With all the hard work he has done he at least deserves the | benefit of the doubt on all these e-mails. What about the times when there is no doubt? When he just behaves totally assholeish? | | When you come close to 1/5t

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro wrote: | Paying for an online agenda? document storage? e-wallet? This looks like the | e-commerce flop on steroids. This is the stuff that will succeed: Microsoft Passport. Mix in Activation Code. Then pay for My Services. And find yourself p

Re: ASPizer

On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Pier Fumagalli wrote: | > Were you (Jon) the front figure in that rejection too, hurling shit in | > every direction, handing out your minus one before knowing what you were | > talking about? | | Actually, Jon was pro... I've understood this by now, I kind of just threw tha

Re: ASPizer

| The thing is that most people who do open source work do it for the | fun/satisfaction of the thing, and engaging in debates with someone who | truly speaks their mind and only compliments your work when its worth | complimenting helps out with that fun/satisfaction thing. I agree. That's not

Re: ASPizer

| Put your project on SourceForget.net. There is another project there that is | now hugely successful that we also rejected here and which I hosted for a | number of years on my own dime, the Jboss project. Hope is not lost. So you (Jakarta) rejected Jboss. I didn't know that. How incredibly sm

Re: ASPizer

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Ceki Gülcü wrote: | At 22:21 17.10.2001 +0200, Endre Stølsvik wrote: | >On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Ceki Gulcu wrote: | > | >| > As a coder, I've mentioned before, he's apparently very good. And his | >| > observations and whatnot are also _i

Re: ASPizer

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Ceki Gulcu wrote: | > As a coder, I've mentioned before, he's apparently very good. And his | > observations and whatnot are also _insightful_, but nothing more. | > Why not just package things just a little bit nicer? Or just whatever? | > Be a bit more polite? Be, you kno

Re: ASPizer

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Ceki Gulcu wrote: | | Endre, | | Although Jon might not be the most politically-correct person around, | he is usually right. Jon is correct to observe that Jakarta is not a | dumping ground for .bomb projects. Of course it's not a dumping ground. This is about whether the

Re: ASPizer

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Jon Stevens wrote: | on 10/15/01 11:15 AM, "Paul Ilechko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > Peter and Jon, thanks for the feedback, sorry I didn't get a chance to respond | > sooner. | > | > A few comments: | > | > ASPizer is currently a production quality product, and in fact

Re: Viewcvs MIA

| Woah. You got that right.. ;) | | I tell someone where to go for submitting a bug report or getting help with | a piece of software and you try to put really off base words into my mouth. It's in the _really_ cute way you always do that which kind of puts me off.. It's amazing to read your m

Re: Viewcvs MIA

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Pier P. Fumagalli wrote: | Endre Stølsvik at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | > | > [...I'm not going to quote what he said...] | | Are you nuts? Maybe slightly.. ( Come to think about it, I'm right now listening to Britney Spears, so change that to "

Re: Viewcvs MIA

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Jon Stevens wrote: | If you go out into the middle of the street and yell: | | "I have a problem with ViewCVS!" | | How many people do you think will answer you? At least _you_ will come up and shout "GO *FUCK OFF* YOU NO-KNOWINGLY ASSHOLE SHIT FACE" or something similar

Re: Viewcvs MIA

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Jon Stevens wrote: | on 8/16/01 4:20 AM, "Conor MacNeill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > While we are on the topic of ViewCVS, there seems to be a slight config | > issue when you do a "select for diffs". For example, look at this page | > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jaka

Re: [OT] $un, M$ and Java

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Jon Stevens wrote: | Someone should run an ad in the various newspapers to tell Sun to get a | f*cking clue. Read this stuff? : http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-08-13-009-20-OP -- Mvh, Endre

Re: Reply-to munging

On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Jon Stevens wrote: | on 7/11/01 11:12 AM, "Alex Chaffee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > I note for the record, however, that I received two copies of this email, | > which means that Joe must have hit "Group Reply", so that means that *even | > with* Reply-to munging on, th

Re: Reply-to munging

| I note for the record, however, that I received two copies of this email, | which means that Joe must have hit "Group Reply", so that means that *even | with* Reply-to munging on, the principle of minimal bandwidth is violated :-) Not that I think it matters _that_ much, but I seriously like t

Re: What are we doing in regards to JDK 1.4?

[ -- cut -- ] | A couple of years ago, Rick Ross wrote an editorial about the problem of | Sun putting Java companies out of business by putting the functionality | of their products into the Java core ("Tools Before Jewels", Java Developer's | Journal, April 1999 http://www.sys-con.com/java/arc