Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-22 Thread Antoine Toulme
gt; Date: Thursday, 22. December 2022 at 08:48 > To: general > Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation > > >> On Dec 21, 2022, at 12:55 AM, Christofer Dutz >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I still think just because a resolution is added

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-22 Thread Christofer Dutz
t; > So here goes: > > -1 binding > > Chris > > > From: Antoine Toulme > Date: Wednesday, 21. December 2022 at 07:02 > To: general > Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation > Folks, > > Thank you for your participation in the Apache Tuweni graduation v

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-22 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > Because this release didn’t have enough votes, we moved it to the general > incubator list where it was duly voted. Sorry, that’s not how it works, the PPMC needs to vote on it first, and then once that has passed, vote for it on the IPMC list. If you don’t get enough votes on the

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-21 Thread Antoine Toulme
here goes: > > -1 binding > > Chris > > > From: Antoine Toulme > Date: Wednesday, 21. December 2022 at 07:02 > To: general > Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation > Folks, > > Thank you for your participation in the Apache Tuweni graduation

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-21 Thread li gang
t; > Maybe I should make my opinion a bit more explicit by officially voting -1 > > So here goes: > > -1 binding > > Chris > > > From: Antoine Toulme > Date: Wednesday, 21. December 2022 at 07:02 > To: general > Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduat

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-21 Thread Christofer Dutz
: Wednesday, 21. December 2022 at 07:02 To: general Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation Folks, Thank you for your participation in the Apache Tuweni graduation vote. The results are as follows: +1: 3 Antoine Toulme (binding), Larry Mccay (binding), Dave Fisher (binding) +0: 0 -1: 0

[RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-20 Thread Antoine Toulme
>> >>> Sorry for asking, >>> >>> but Dave, could you please explain that reply … admittedly I didn’t >>> understand what you wanted to say >>> (Guess I would consider it advanced English and I simply didn’t understand >>> it). >>> &

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-20 Thread Antoine Toulme
sh and I simply didn’t understand >> it). >> >> Chris >> >> From: Dave Fisher >> Date: Monday, 12. December 2022 at 06:19 >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation >> Thanks. I think you are onto an id

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-19 Thread Josh Fischer
> > Chris > > From: Dave Fisher > Date: Monday, 12. December 2022 at 06:19 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation > Thanks. I think you are onto an idea of community that could be somehow > explicitly part of the incubator’s curri

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-19 Thread Christofer Dutz
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation Thanks. I think you are onto an idea of community that could be somehow explicitly part of the incubator’s curriculum. That’s a separate discussion. Best, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2022, at 7:17 PM, Willem Jiang wrote: > >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
hey aren't all materially contributing code. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 3:45 AM Christofer Dutz >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> And in the last few months the ASF has sadly seen enough ca

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-11 Thread Willem Jiang
And in the last few months the ASF has sadly seen enough cases, in which > >> even big projects suffered from the lack of diversity. > >> So, I would also consider this to be a blocker. > >> > >> Community building isn’t something that happens or comes for free. >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-11 Thread Dave Fisher
the last few months the ASF has sadly seen enough cases, in which >>>> even big projects suffered from the lack of diversity. >>>> So, I would also consider this to be a blocker. >>>> >>>> Community building isn’t something that happens or comes f

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-11 Thread larry mccay
consider this to be a blocker. > >> > >> Community building isn’t something that happens or comes for free. > >> It’s actually hard work, but it needs to be done. > >> > >> Just my opinion on this topic. > >> > >> Chris > >> > >>

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-10 Thread Antoine Toulme
t’s actually hard work, but it needs to be done. >> >> Just my opinion on this topic. >> >> Chris >> >> From: Willem Jiang >> Date: Wednesday, 7. December 2022 at 02:59 >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [VOT

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-07 Thread larry mccay
omes for free. > It’s actually hard work, but it needs to be done. > > Just my opinion on this topic. > > Chris > > From: Willem Jiang > Date: Wednesday, 7. December 2022 at 02:59 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-07 Thread Christofer Dutz
to be done. Just my opinion on this topic. Chris From: Willem Jiang Date: Wednesday, 7. December 2022 at 02:59 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation It looks like we need a dedicated community leader[1] to build a diverse community (just borrow a pattern from

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-06 Thread Willem Jiang
It looks like we need a dedicated community leader[1] to build a diverse community (just borrow a pattern from InnerSource Common[2]). " Communication takes up a significant percentage of a community leader's daily work. At the same time, he or she will likely also have to spearhead the initial

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-06 Thread li gang
Regarding graduation, the ASF official website made some introductions, and also introduced how to build an open and diverse community. First,whether graduation requires diversity? Here is a quote from [1]. > A major criterion for graduation is to have developed an open and diverse meritocratic

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-05 Thread Antoine Toulme
Here are the relevant messages Larry mentions: https://lists.apache.org/thread/rl93tocc2nt3b6lnwvqp3xbnxcvc5cwg https://lists.apache.org/thread/xrf3ft5b9jzbbtcwo2k8kqbk2fn69vyx It’s unclear to me how the incubator will further help with establishing diversity - during our discussion, Justin

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-05 Thread larry mccay
I'm not so sure that I see this as a blocker for graduation. There was enough consensus and testing to spin and publish 14 releases. There has been healthy conversation about this very topic among the mentors and contributors on the private list. The nature of this project is that the consumption

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-05 Thread Willem Jiang
I agree with Gang Li. The Bus factor[1] of this project is relatively high. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: 姜宁willem On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:06 PM li gang wrote: > > I checked the contributions of the Tuweni project[1],the traffic of the

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-05 Thread li gang
I checked the contributions of the Tuweni project[1],the traffic of the mail list d...@tuweni.apache.org[2] and the KEYS[3]. It looks like the project is mainly maintained by Antoine Toulme self, I have a concern this is not comply with the diversity.

[VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation

2022-12-04 Thread Antoine Toulme
Dear Apache Incubator Community and IPMC members, We discussed the graduation for Tuweni in the Apache Incubator Community [4], where no issues were raised and positive replies were received. After having the graduation discussion in the Tuweni community [1], we have passed the vote within