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As this is an implementation of a JSR, I believe that the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
mailing list should be made aware of those plans...
I forwarded your email there...
Pier
"Stefan Hepper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I would like to propose a new Jakart
interface that they do not
>> help much.
We have a license and an installation of Jive, if someone wants to get it up
to speed... It's on nagoya.
Pier
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Sander Striker wrote:
http://www.apache.org/dev/list-setup.html
Gotcha... Since I was at it I also added Tapestry-DEV, Tapestry-USER,
Avalon-USERS, BSF-DEV and BSF-USERS...
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We came to the conclusion (I believe) that we don't _want_ it.
Roughly the whole thread:
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=&listName=cocoon-dev%40
xml.apache.org&searchText=LGPL&defaultField=subject&Search=Search
Pier
ld be really a discussion targeted to community@ or licensing@ ...
God bless the power to say "off topic" :-) :-)
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groups. He was also a co-founder and
> the Corporate Technologist of eShop, one of the first electronic commerce
> software companies, before its acquisition by Microsoft in 1996.
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and therefore
legally bound to the Foundation itself (in good and bad times)...
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old.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
You can do it yourself in one of the options at the bottom (I suppose)...
Otherwise write to me or to (hear hear) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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s ).
Click-through is something we always wanted to avoid...
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. What is the legal basis for this claim of ownership?
The fact that each contributor, prior access to our CVS repository, signs a
paper saying that for whatever goes in CVS, he assigns copyright and
ownership of the code to the ASF... No more no less than what an
On 17/2/03 7:25 "Stefan Bodewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pier, Ceki, Jason and Ted are covered by the "re-add former PMC
> members who want to be PMC members again" plan you've hinted at.
I wasn't on the PMC last year, it was two years ago...
idual PMC members might have oversight only on
a fraction (subproject) of the whole project, I would be against it.
It's just a matter of roles and _responsibilities_...
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On 19/2/03 21:31 "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pier Fumagalli wrote:
>> On 19/2/03 17:18 "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> The goal is to make all active committers PMC members.
>>
>> I think this is utterl
e problem is size, well, break up
the bloody thing, it was never designed to be this huge.
My 2 pennies.
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On 19/2/03 23:00 "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guess what? No need for that at all! The "additional" responsibility
> being on a PMC entails wasn't additional at all.
Avalon is ONE project... Jakarta, I can't co
erall direction and
actions of all the other portfolios... And if that works for Italy, I
believe it works everywhere else...
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rather than give an opinion and
>> pretend some authority i don't have, take a look at this thread:
>
> What do you means by passed the PMC nomination ?
> I'm confused with the original mail where many commiters were
> elected as Jaka
"Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>
>> I nominate Pier Fumagalli for membership in the Jakarta PMC, for a
>> period exceeding that of any Italian post-war government.
>
> +1
I thank you and esteem the trust you
eers.html)...
Apache's concerns were "Considering Sun's current position that JSRs may not
be independently implemented under an open source license [...]", and I'll
let you make 1 + 1 here...
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, it all comes down to how "receptive"
the spec lead is in regards to new ideas coming from outside, and how much
"weight" he has in his company (the JSR sponsoring company)...
But my experience is too little to say what happens more often.
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JCP specifications???
Geir, I _really_ am in troubles when dealing with Servlets. I cannot raise
issues on the tomcat-dev mailing lists, all I can do is discuss them with
Jon and Jason, as they both are on the spec...
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removed from the next revision of the spec once it gets in :-)
Just thinking out loud...
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ing at me
Jon and Jason making fool of ourselves, of course)
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reason. There are a
> number of mailing lists and online forums where developers interested
> in the fate of the spec hangs out. We could have started discussions
> there, and urged people to send feedback to Sun.
This is why I feel that my work as the official representative to that EG
On 18/3/03 11:33 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 10:02 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
>
>> On 17/3/03 1:24 "Hans Bergsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that there's been
On 20/3/03 21:03 "Magesh Umasankar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All I get when trying to look up any archived
> message thread is $msgHeaders as the meat of it.
>
> What is going on?
We're aware of it... Will be
Not acked
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> Subject: broken links
>
> There are two sort-of broken links on this page:
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/library.html
>
> They are the references to
un actually has a point (Rudy? Who the hell is he?).
Oddly enough in the J2EE/JBoss saga, I don't see Sun as being the "bad" guys
(but ok, some of us and Mark go back A LONG time)...
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roup LLC and any other
private/public corporation developing a J2EE solution...
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arriving.
>
> I *would* agree if the other vendors weren't being permitted. I fail to see
> what compliance should have to do with it. Its a Javapolis not a J2EEpolis.
All other vendors are permitted, and all other vendors had to pay for their
compliancy... Why is JBoss Group LLC dif
unless
something changed in the policy over there (which I don't think, as I know
each single one in that team), this is absolutely untrue.
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Someone cares to explain the difference between JEXL and this one?
Pier
"Jan Luehe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Commons EL team is pleased to announce the first official release of
> Commons EL from the Apache Software Foundation.
>
> Commons EL pro
On 25/6/03 2:49 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 06:58 AM, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
>
>> Someone cares to explain the difference between JEXL and this one?
>
> Jexl is my own concoction to do what the JSTL EL do
FYI
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In the paragraph entitled "Watch where you are sending email."
On the page http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
The following link http://www.metasystema.org
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> Subject: lists that don't require subscriber approval
>
> Today, the tomcat-user list was spammed by an errant mailer-daemon out
> there that sent out nearly 300 email messages to the rest of the list.
> There are 1091 subscribers to that list, so 300K messages we
for making Cactus a top level project ?
> Are there conditions for that (like number of hits,downloads, community) ?
> Who decides, PMC members ?
Once the developers agree that they want to become top level, I believe that
it's only a matter of PMC "blessing" of that... I wou
"Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> P.S. Perhaps the right fix here is to create a jakarta-cactus subproject.
Agreed... I would kindly ask to the Jakarta-Commons people, to vote on
making Cactus become a top-level subproject of Jakarta, we'll m
"Vincent Massol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> just sent a request for vote now on [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
> :)
Since you're at it already, can you please also tell them that I'm going to
change the mailing list name from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTEC
cactus-user)
>> - servletapi-dev (collapse into tomcat-dev)
>> - watchdog-dev (collapse into tomcat-dev)
>
> I'll let you do these.
I'm waiting for feedback on those...
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bmit the proposition to the PMC for their
> blessing.
>
> How is that ?
That's why I said "waiting for feedback"...
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"Vincent Massol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've had a look at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html ...
>
> Here are the strange things I found :
> * Alexandria : no user list (Pier I thought you said ALL projects had both
> lists ;-) )
I thought d
e pub someday :-)
Somehow I _live_ there, St. Katherine's Docks, Tower Bridge... Let's meet
sometime :)
> Have a goo weekend
Just got back from Camden with 300 pounds less in my pockets (damn
CyberDog), so the week-end is looking great :)
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> Morgan Delagrange, +1
> Craig R. McClanahan, +1
> Rodney Waldhoff, +1
> Scott Sanders, +1
> Geir Magnusson Jr., +1
> James Strachan, +1
> Vincent Massol, +1
>
> Others :
>
> Sam Ruby, +1
> Stephen Crans, +1
>
rg.apache.cactus", that can be done without
loosing history (of course you'll have to change the package names in a
commit)...
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All done... CVS moved (preserving history in jakarta-commons and renaming
packages and directories in jakarta-cactus), mailing lists have been
created, so, I believe I'm done... Have fun...
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"Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've set up the new top-level entry. Let me know what "components" and
> "versions" you would like set up, and I will do those as well.
Thanks Craig..
Pier
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> I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits from
> PMC members.
>
> :-)
+1... Just remove the word ASP between "decline" and "market" in the little
boxed text :)
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e list of people is here
<http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html> under the PMC section... But
given that we're working together since a vry long time (some of us
since 97), 90% of the times we simply agree on most topics...
Pier
Tim Vernum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How do you know that JBoss would have worked within Jakarta?
Simply, it wouldn't have... We would have been stuck in a very long flamewar
forever :) That's why Jboss is not @ Jakarta
ight to the foundation you can "donate" code to
the ASF. The only problem is that you can't put copyright ASF on anything
you like, we have to accept that donation... If you still do it (basically
endorsing our name on something we don't wan
We should link this <http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE> from the website.
Pier
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Subject: looking for ASL material
Hi -
Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> on 10/19/01 5:50 AM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> +1... Just remove the word ASP between "decline" and "market" in the little
>> boxed text :)
>>
>> Pie
Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> <http://importscrubber.sourceforge.net/ant.html>
>
> org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.importscrubber.ImportScrubberTask
>
> Given that this isn't an official Jakarta project, shouldn't the tool choose
> anoth
ery "ASF-like"... :) :) But I'm not subbed on their
lists, and I don't know the folks over there... Any comment? (Would love to
hear from them directly, too! Feel free to forward)
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Jason van Zyl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I like their project, the only thing I'm concerned about it is here:
>> <http://bcel.sourceforge.net/licensing.html>
>
> Markus has agreed to change the licensing strictly over to the
Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> import email.RequireApproval.vm;
>
> Wow. When did Velocity files become ok to import? :-)
You didn't know? They're adding those to the VM spec, so that you can
directly write in Velocity without having the hassle to pass thru J
's required to build the SSL module in it).
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Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We should put a paypal link on the Jakarta homepage and donate the money to
> AIDS research or some other worthy cause.
That would be a good idea...
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> so this is an US export law issue and not a Sun License issue?
AFAIK (in theory, but I'm not a lawyer), it is...
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t this
> float for another day or two to let anyone get their votes/concerns
> registered.
Ceki is on vacation for a week, so he won't be around for sure (and his
email is down, I'm hosting it on Betaversion ATM).
Pier
ache.org on a new
server... Should be solved shortly (right now tomcat-dev and tomcat0user are
already there)
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not 100% confident about)...
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Pier Fumagalli at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The description in Reply-To was wrong... Let's hope I got it right this time
> :) :) :)
And I got List-Post wrong too... Damn, sometimes I'm such a ***** :)
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Take up some moderation works? I'm fed with all mailing lists :)
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STINK_OF_BUGZILLA_
(Basically, when is it going to be working?)
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che.org:8080/jyve-faq/ to nagoya.apache.org:8080/jyve-faq/ ?
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independence as an open source developer with my
dream of living in a place I love, I traded my salary for a lump of more
freedom. The only thing I somehow regret, is that this time I didn't have
the power of choice, but I accept it, and frankly, I'm not sad about what
happened...
So, from n
ve up Apache on
a nice IBM or SUN box to install IIS on an X86)...
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maybe I should email the other admin for nagoya
> (Justyna???) - if so anyone got an email handy ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED], or email Craig, he has admin permissions too :)
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be not as good design). Is
> there? I
> couldn't find it... Was it Anakia?
Anakia or Cocoon 2.0
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95? can't even remember, and for sure
although he's sometimes harsh, most of the times (not ALL, Jon :) he's
right!
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ificent piece of code with a non-existent or screwed community...
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or is and when they are likely to come
>> back from their break ? ;)
>
> Pier. I've manually approved your e-mails. Anybody want to voluteer to
> moderate for a while? Meanwhile, I've added "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to the
> "allow" list for general.
&
e _more_ than happy when I show
him his news hits stats in Excel or PowerPoints (download and take to the
weekly meeting, straight off the live site)...
I don't care about XML or JAKARTA, I just say that the project is cool (so
freakin' cool), even for a Mac user, I trust Stefano's
Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Proposal for "POI" - A Jakarta Subproject
> version 1.0 - 17 Jan 2002
Late as always ... +1 :)
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To: general at jakarta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: POI Development <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [PROPOSAL] POI @ Jakarta
>>
>> Proposal for "POI" - A Jakarta Subproject
>> version 1.0 - 17 Jan 2002
>>
>
> +1
Do two +1 make a +2 from
and thou shall be given (if I like you! SourceForge doesn't actually
have the "I like you" requirement, though! :) :) :)
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> Subject: BugZilla back up... :)
>
> Database restored, no data
gt; Sam Ruby
Interestingly enough this will be the first PMC that doesn't contain a
"founding" Jakarta member...
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.. Actually "we" all moved on
to do other things, and we're all pretty happy (AFAIK)... It was just weird
not to see any of our names on there, that's it :) :) :)
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Folks, this is _NOT_ a forum for discussing any random project features on
the planet... Please, let's stick to JAKARTA stuff, thank you (before I
start kicking out people)... K'?
Pier
"Michael Pan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HUP does not work on Linux, but
ne), and I can make that happen... :)
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, or cron job I could rip-off?
> d.
Everything (everyting) is already build on Nagoya (and several other places)
by "GUMP" several times a day Sam??? :)
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"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, We've committed a number of changes to the POI site. If someone
> with requisite karma could apply this on the http server we'd appreciate
> it.
Done.
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and too bad that I won't be able to be there... :(
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"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Including whiteboards, etternet-hubs, wireless, telcon/phone, coffee,
> thee, softdrinks &c for one day (take your pick; tentative suggestion:
> that Tuesday).
Plane tickets? :)
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> * The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any other
> events that we are putting on there.
>
>
> The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance
> floor and a big sound system. :-)
And I can vouch for him... The space is
ers.
That's why I wouldn't be "that" comfortable with a "Why GPL sucks" page...
Political propaganda? Looks really like it... And IMO that's not what we're
here to do... We're here to write software...
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a) are a "privilege" of members of the Foundation only, including
what to do with the license...
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"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 07:39, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
>> "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> You must realize that there are different objectives. It is the goal of
>>
iled arguments in the
> O'Reilly article referenced at the end.
>
> Please vote on whether you think the reasons outlined here are
> sufficiently representative. Constructive criticism and change
> suggestions welcome. If sufficiently approved of, I'll XMLify it and
>
;good thing" (TM) ,but, as well, I don't think it's the scope of
the Jakarta Project, but rather of the Foundation and of the Board to come
up with such a thing.
And the best place for this discussion is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon, is
that right?)
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stop using general@jakarta for advertisement of things which
are NOT ASF related? Thankyou...
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appy to pay
> for some, and we can take a collection or approach the ASF.
We can ask the foundation to sponsor this stuff... Shouldn't be much $$$ and
IMO it would be a good cause...
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e ok "now", but many will be
watching in the future. But I believe that it really depends with what eyes
you look at it (although I bet that at Sun they're celebrating! :)
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"Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> +1 to Sam being chair regardless of whether he wants to or not ;)
I second this nomination... Sam's great at handling crap jobs :) :) :)
(Ok, ok... He's also great on great stuff... But that's not the point!)
help, maybe suggesting being
propositive and active on another might...
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"Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, I'm still willing to show people the club, even if we aren't doing
> anything...
Worth the trip... Trust me (I came all the way from London, passing thru San
Diego, and doing 500 miles on a motorcycle ju
te (if thats the
> problem) or actually work decently? Please let me know how I can help.
Andy, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the right list for all those questions
(there's someone who knows over there! :)
Pier
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