Re: [gentoo-dev] Flags to punt (including: kerberos USE flag)

2008-11-01 Thread David Leverton
On Saturday 01 November 2008 02:44:50 Josh Saddler wrote: emboss - Seriously. Who needs the European Biology Open Software Suite on a *desktop* oriented system? That flag is only used by a few sci-biology packages, so if you don't have any of those installed, it doesn't matter whether the flag

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Ben de Groot
Hi, I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With the help of a few users I have been developing ebuilds for these packages in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Robert Bridge
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:05:54 +0100 Ben de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with 4.3, and if not please stabilize a version that does in the near future if at all possible. Stabilizing this version is

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Robert Bridge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As a use who looked at LXDE for older machines, but decided that not to mess around with overlays on otherwise stable x86 boxes, can I vote for this? You can, and I am sure you can also rely on that overlay to be in good shape, so test it. +1 by the way

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 12:05 +0100, Ben de Groot wrote: Hi, I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With the help of a few

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:30:09 +0100 Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with 4.3, and if not please stabilize a

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Jose Luis Rivero
Ryan Hill wrote: In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with 4.3, and if not please stabilize a version that does in the near future if at all possible. Stabilizing this version is going to be a huge job

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-11-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:42:27 + Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dev-util/rej Taken. Unavoidable really. :) Kind regards, jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-11-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:42:27 + Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sys-block/viaideinfo And that one. rej

[gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Gordon Malm
I'd like to get distcc added as one of the FEATURES we are able to RESTRICT. It is true that RESTRICT=distcc is usually not the proper solution to problems. But in the case of out-of-tree kernel modules the idea of distributing compile jobs to other machines is fundamentally flawed IMO.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 13:57:17 -0700 Gordon Malm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in the case of out-of-tree kernel modules the idea of distributing compile jobs to other machines is fundamentally flawed IMO. Why? And how are out of tree kernel modules in any way special when it comes to distcc? --

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Gordon Malm
If you're compiling an out-of-tree module that requires the kernel be compiled with support for a particular item and the distccd host's kernel does not have that support compiles fail. Reference bug #120001 (though I know that it was properly diagnosed there). Then there's also this doozie.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:21:43 -0700 Gordon Malm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're compiling an out-of-tree module that requires the kernel be compiled with support for a particular item and the distccd host's kernel does not have that support compiles fail. Reference bug #120001 (though I know

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Gordon Malm
On Saturday, November 1, 2008 14:28:06 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:21:43 -0700 Gordon Malm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're compiling an out-of-tree module that requires the kernel be compiled with support for a particular item and the distccd host's kernel does not

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:58:39 -0700 Gordon Malm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use madwifi-ng extensively and have experienced the same issue with madwifi-ng as stated in that bug. For bug #167844, please read comment #13 and http://code.google.com/p/distcc/issues/detail?id=25. There's nothing to

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:30:41 +0100 Jose Luis Rivero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Hill wrote: In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with 4.3, and if not please stabilize a version that does in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Gordon Malm
On Saturday, November 1, 2008 15:11:16 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:58:39 -0700 Gordon Malm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use madwifi-ng extensively and have experienced the same issue with madwifi-ng as stated in that bug. For bug #167844, please read comment #13 and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:47:09 -0700 Gordon Malm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks to me like hardened is doing entirely the wrong thing. Thus, the proper fix is to make hardened behave itself. It looks to me like you've already made up your mind. How is hardened doing the entirely wrong

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Jan Kundrát
Gordon Malm wrote: It looks to me like you've already made up your mind. How is hardened doing the entirely wrong thing? From the page [1] you mentioned: If so, that seems to me like an abuse of the -D option. The abuse is in changing the compiler behavior based on -D options. What do you

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Ben de Groot wrote: Hi, I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With the help of a few users I have been developing ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread David Leverton
On Saturday 01 November 2008 20:57:17 Gordon Malm wrote: I'd like to get distcc added as one of the FEATURES we are able to RESTRICT. Regardless of whether it's a good idea or not, does it fix all the known issues if the ebuild sets DISTCC_HOSTS=localhost in the environment?

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Gordon Malm
On Saturday, November 1, 2008 15:57:52 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Parallel building problems can often and should be addressed properly. I don't want the answer to every one that comes along to be to add RESTRICT=distcc. This is something to be addressed through developer documentation that

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT=distcc capability

2008-11-01 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Malm wrote: snip a lot of exchanges All the technical discussion on the above is perfectly fine, but the way the arguments are being presented and the tone used by both sides is getting arguments into a thin line from becoming flames. Please