Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

2017-07-13 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote: > Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to > start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd > behavior here. > > While it seems like a good idea I'm not sure how big an improvement it > is in the larger scheme.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Auto adding packages to world was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-12 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 12/07/17 17:07, Gordon Pettey wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:14 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. > > wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:03:00 +1000 > Sam Jorna > wrote: > > > $ emerge -C apg >

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only

2017-07-12 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 12/07/17 16:42, William Hubbs wrote: > OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns > about users bricking systems by writing to this filesystem unexpectedly. > > Here is the newsitem covering this change. > > William > Very sensible .. I seem to recall something about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Auto adding packages to world was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-11 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 12/07/17 04:22, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Step back for a minute, and relax. There is a reason you're getting > blowback. You're asking for changes that would affect everybody else. > This is similar in principle to what Lennart Poettering did, and you're > getting the same reaction he got. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/07/17 20:53, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Matt Turner wrote: >> For what it's worth, Jack Morgan was recently getting his sparc and >> ia64 systems back up, but then decided to retire instead when he saw >> all of the discussions about dropping

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/07/17 12:43, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El lun, 10-07-2017 a las 13:12 +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand escribió: >> On 07/10/2017 01:04 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> Any issues on trying to go further into implementing this warning? >> Not an issue per se, but it should be pointed out that python 3.5

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates, July 2017

2017-07-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/07/17 09:41, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > Hey folks, > > If you'd like to help Gentoo stable be more up to date, please read on. > > See > > for potential stabilization candidates (over 1000 of them). > > These are

Re: [gentoo-dev] lua upgrade plan

2017-07-02 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 02/07/17 21:12, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > By the way, it will also brake some proprietary games, that distributes via > steam, humble, gog and so on. > > Some of them depends on shared lua and doesn't bundle it (instead, their > installer calls apt (since they're doing games for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: ruby21-only packages

2017-06-24 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 23/06/17 08:45, Hans de Graaff wrote: > # Hans de Graaff (23 Jun 2017) > # Mask ruby21-only packages for removal in 30 days > > # ruby21-only, no maintainer > www-apps/redmine Really? I find it hard to believe that a common package like redmine is ruby-21 only?!

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] toolchain-funcs.eclass / toolchain-glibc.eclass - gcc-6 bugfixes and updates

2017-06-16 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 16/06/17 09:27, Matthias Maier wrote: > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, at 18:15 CDT, Matthias Maier wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> this is a series of patches against the toolchian-funcs and toolchain-glibc >> eclasses, most notably >> > Pushed. > > Best, > Matthias > .. That was quick

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: new category, app-containers

2017-06-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 14/06/17 17:11, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I am about to write two new ebuilds for packages for Gentoo that are for > container-related utilities. > > Currently, the best place to put them would be app-emulation, or > app-misc or dev-util, probably app-emulation would be my first choice. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update to news item 2014-10-26-gcc_4_7_introduced_new_c++11_abi/2014-10-26-gcc_4_7_introduced_new_c++11_abi.en.txt

2017-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/17 16:55, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Kensington suggested updating the news item on the new c++11 abi for > gcc. Since this news item now appears for all new installations of gcc > it can be annoying. I'm proposing to change it as below, but I have one > concern. It is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fixing elasticsearch maintainer

2017-05-22 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 22/05/17 21:05, Matthias Maier wrote: >> Were this an actual office, this would be better solved with a "ok, >> we've clearly been working too hard this week, everyone stop, ITS PUB >> O-CLOCK!" > This is most definitely true for almost everything going on for the last > days in Gentoo. Just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fixing elasticsearch maintainer

2017-05-21 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 22/05/17 05:12, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 05/22/2017 03:52 AM, Sam Jorna wrote: >> On 18/05/17 02:38, Patrick Lauer wrote: >>> Since proxy-maint refuses to be removed from packages (especially >>> since they >>> were unconditionally added to all packages with a non-gentoo-dev >>> maintainer in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/

2017-05-21 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 21/05/17 20:32, Kent Fredric wrote: > But I'd also like a pony. > I'm hoping for a unicorn still ... [apologies, resending as hit the wrong button in the Compose button..] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/

2017-05-21 Thread M. J. Everitt
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] 17.0 profile update

2017-05-12 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 12/05/17 16:54, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 05/12/2017 05:50 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> On Fri, 12 May 2017, Matthias Maier wrote: >>> I will post an RFC for a profile update (and a news item) for 17.0 >> We used to count from 1999 (namely, 10.0 introducing the counting >> appeared

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] distutils-r1.eclass: Warn if *-nspkg.pth files are installed

2017-05-05 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 05/05/17 22:14, Michał Górny wrote: > Add a check for *-nspkg.pth files indicating implicit setuptools > namespace hack. While they kept namespaces somewhat working without > requiring explicit support in ebuilds, they were unreliable. They > frequently required additional hacks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: stable gcc 5.4.0 ??

2017-04-18 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 18/04/17 10:44, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, T, 18.04.2017 kell 11:16, kirjutas Jörg Schaible: >> Hi Tomas, >> >> Tomas Mozes wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Jörg Schaible < >>> joerg.schai...@bpm-inspire.com> wrote: >>> Hi, according the logs, gcc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: profiles/arches.desc - improve repoman flexibility (with other benefits)

2017-03-27 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 27/03/17 11:10, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > >> 3] Meaning of the three values "stable", "testing", "unstable" for >> repoman >> >> * stable: When a profile of arch is tested, then repoman checks >> consistency for >> "arch" and for "~arch" separately. >> Which profiles of the arch are tested is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] sys-devel/autoconf: Convert from eblits into an eclass, #586424

2017-03-23 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 23/03/17 21:42, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > If we were to stop thinking and follow the rule by the letter: What are > we waiting for to file bugs for every package having ${FILESDIR} > somewhere in global scope then ? > After all, those are the council approved versions and EAPIs cannot > change.

Re: [gentoo-dev] new package category: net-vpn

2017-03-16 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 16/03/17 23:02, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > Hey folks, > > While VPNs weren't stylish back when most categories were added to our > portage tree, they now are hot potatoes. Most VPN-related programs > currently live in net-misc, which isn't quite right. > > If nobody voices reasonable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-21 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 22/02/17 02:48, Gordon Pettey wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 7:05 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.ever...@iee.org > <mailto:m.j.ever...@iee.org>> wrote: > > On 21/02/17 08:53, Lars Wendler wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:47:17 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-21 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 21/02/17 08:53, Lars Wendler wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:47:17 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. >> >> Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has >> absolutely nothing to do with network.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-20 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 20/02/17 21:47, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Hey all, > > 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. > > Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has absolutely > nothing to do with network. > So, a new category "sys-print", emphasizing that it's hardware

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: net-wireless/gr-air-modes/

2017-02-20 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 20/02/17 18:09, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > * ERROR: net-wireless/gr-air-modes-::gentoo failed (depend phase): > * PYTHON_COMPAT not declared. > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 05:43:10PM +, Michał Górny wrote: >> commit: 5458c6d9da6bbb3b4009a4ff9d9ab17737d07849 >> Author: Michał

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: dev-util/wxglade/files/, dev-util/wxglade/

2017-02-18 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 18/02/17 20:03, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, L, 18.02.2017 kell 19:47, kirjutas Michał Górny: >> commit: 7207a292b2591dde5cbd336470bed3c11617a8e1 >> Commit: Michał Górny gentoo org> >> CommitDate: Sat Feb 18 19:47:25 2017 + >> URL:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Requirements for UID/GID management

2017-01-28 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 29/01/17 03:23, Gordon Pettey wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Michael Orlitzky > wrote: > > On 01/28/2017 09:22 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > Honestly, I really will say "so what" here. :) > > > > I forgot to mention a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Requirements for UID/GID management

2017-01-28 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 29/01/17 01:56, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/27/2017 11:21 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> It isn't like inconsistent UIDs are the end of the world. However, >> IMO it still makes sense to at least try to standardize such things. >> Really, if you have a package always installing the same user

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving profiles/profiles.desc and repoman checking

2017-01-28 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 28/01/17 20:38, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Samstag, 28. Januar 2017, 20:32:54 CET schrieb M. J. Everitt: >> How does this compare/contrast/integrate with kent\n's proposal >> regarding "profiles.types"? > Oops. > > Sorry I'm a bit back in mailing list read

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving profiles/profiles.desc and repoman checking

2017-01-28 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 28/01/17 20:01, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > So, things are a little bit messy right now. We have "stable arches", "arches > that are ~arch only (but occasional stable keywords can pop up and be > ignored)", "arches that are ~arch only". In addition, some are always checked > with repoman,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: Cron <gmirror@dipper> /usr/local/bin/pidlock -s rsync-gen /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/mastermirror/rsync-gen.sh

2017-01-27 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 27/01/17 12:41, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I'm a little concerned that stuff like this starts to end up working > like collective punishment. Fred over here broke the tree, so nobody > gets to have desert or recess today; you all know what to do with Fred > when he's looking to sit next to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: Cron <gmirror@dipper> /usr/local/bin/pidlock -s rsync-gen /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/mastermirror/rsync-gen.sh

2017-01-26 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 27/01/17 00:55, NP-Hardass wrote: > On 01/26/2017 06:48 PM, Doug Freed wrote: >> This is the email I get when a Manifest is missing DIST entries; it's >> more verbose than it needs to be, but I'd rather have more than less. >> In this particular case, the developer that made the bad commit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pre-GLEP for review: mix-in profiles

2017-01-24 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 24/01/17 17:20, Jason Zaman wrote: > This is awesome! thanks for working on it, ive wanted it for a while > now. > > The main issue I see with it is ordering. For the hardened and selinux > profiles, the order matters a lot. eg hardened defaults the jit useflag > off and the desktop profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item review: python-exec 2.3 reclaims python* symlinks

2017-01-21 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 21/01/17 16:36, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 01/21/2017 10:49 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >> Please review the following news item. It was requested by users. >> Preferably I'd like to commit it today. > .. > >> If you are using FEATURES=collision-protect, Portage will reject >> the upgrade.

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item review: python-exec 2.3 reclaims python* symlinks

2017-01-21 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 21/01/17 09:49, Michał Górny wrote: > Please review the following news item. It was requested by users. > Preferably I'd like to commit it today. > > -- > > Title: python-exec 2.3 reclaims python* symlinks > Author: Michał Górny > Content-Type: text/plain > Posted:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Common rsync-gen errors, why they happen, and what you can do about it

2017-01-18 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 18/01/17 09:04, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:19:19 +0100 > Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > >> >> That makes sense. My other comment initially reading your email would >> be, send those emails to gentoo-core or -project or whatever. If >> others don't get to feel the

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 06/01/17 17:14, Alec Warner wrote: > > Treecleaning to me is really two things: > > 1) developer maintenance time. > a) It costs nothing to add packages to the tree, and the tree grows > in size every year. > b) Removals occur due to obsolescence (X replaces Y, etc) but these > are strictly

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 06/01/17 15:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: >> If packages had a field called "BUGS=" it could contain an array of >> bugs a package is known to contain, but can be conditionally avoided if >> you're careful. >> >> Packages with

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 06/01/17 04:27, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:23:02 -0500 > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I tend to be firmly in the camp that a package shouldn't be removed >> unless there is evidence of a serious bug (and that includes things >> blocking other Gentoo packages). >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The changes about the stabilization process

2017-01-03 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/01/17 07:09, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 04/01/17 12:57, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 22:55:27 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> [...] >>> Another question: do we steel need to set STABLEREQ keyword for >>> stabilization bugs? Since we now have a dedicated

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 03/01/17 14:57, Michael Mol wrote: > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:24:19 AM EST Damien LEVAC wrote: >> On 01/03/2017 09:14 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05:10 PM EST Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) gro...@gentoo.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-03 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) > gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > >> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: >>> IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it >>> heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT. >> I use it on 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The changes about the stabilization process

2017-01-02 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 02/01/17 17:49, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:23:58 + >> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> >>> Because it isn't... Are set names atoms? Are package names without an >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The changes about the stabilization process

2017-01-02 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 02/01/17 16:51, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:11:43 +0100 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> PMS uses "package dependency specification", but that may be too long >> for the name of the field. How about "ebuilds to stabilise"? >> >> Ulrich > Reading "man 5 ebuild" >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Project: Gentoostats

2017-01-02 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 02/01/17 11:40, Francesco Riosa wrote: > l'ho fatto con un utente diverso (pnp_RSIFNC), per ora sto prendendo > quelle che avrei dovuto comunque prendere, poi forzo le altre > > 2017-01-02 10:29 GMT+01:00 Gokturk Yuksek >: > > Hi everyone, >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intel's Management Engine

2017-01-01 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 01/01/17 21:12, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 01/01/17 21:01, james wrote: >> Is there a group of gentoo devs interested in the security aspects of >> internal, and often non-disclosed, hardware, as I cannot seem to find >> such a group, if it exists? >> >> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intel's Management Engine

2017-01-01 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 01/01/17 21:01, james wrote: > Is there a group of gentoo devs interested in the security aspects of > internal, and often non-disclosed, hardware, as I cannot seem to find > such a group, if it exists? > > > Is there any interest in such a gentoo-dev project? > > > Here is a teaser page [1].

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2016-12-18 23:59 UTC

2016-12-18 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 19/12/16 00:23, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/18/2016 07:05 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> Additions: >> ... >> dev-php/ca-bundle 20161124-07:43 mjo 7597666 >> dev-php/cli-prompt20161124-07:21 mjo d3bd351 >> dev-php/composer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling ebuild logging output in Portage (Was: gpg: signing failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device)

2016-12-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
: > On 12/14/2016 12:59 PM, Doug Freed wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:27 AM, M. J. Everitt >>> <m.j.ever...@iee.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> I do, but only usually if it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ada project needs your help!

2016-12-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 14/12/16 15:47, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:30:00 + > "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.ever...@iee.org> wrote: > >> On 14/12/16 08:26, Christopher Head wrote: >>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:59:50 +0100 >>> Michał Górny <

Re: [gentoo-dev] gpg: signing failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

2016-12-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 14/12/16 15:45, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:27 AM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.ever...@iee.org> wrote: >> I do, but only usually if its the last package of an emerge because >> otherwise its lost many many thousands of lines upwards. Thank goodness >> fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] gpg: signing failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

2016-12-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 14/12/16 14:57, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:07 AM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.ever...@iee.org> wrote: >> On 14/12/16 13:53, Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Mart Raudsepp <l...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>>> Ühel kenal

Re: [gentoo-dev] gpg: signing failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

2016-12-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 14/12/16 13:53, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >> Ühel kenal päeval, K, 14.12.2016 kell 15:35, kirjutas Andrew Savchenko: >>> This is not a workaround, but officially recommended practice, from >>> man gpg-agent: >>> >>> You should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ada project needs your help!

2016-12-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 14/12/16 08:26, Christopher Head wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:59:50 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > >> Hello, everyone. >> >> The Ada project seriously needs help. For some time already, it has no >> active developers (George is retiring), and a lot of bugs needing >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cross Post due to technical component - Thanks for all the fish

2016-12-06 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 07/12/16 02:44, james wrote: > > On this page, the string 'quiz' occurs (3) times. I find no links to > the current quizes? > > Did I miss something? > > James > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Recruiters#Current_quizzes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cross Post due to technical component - Thanks for all the fish

2016-12-06 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 07/12/16 01:59, james wrote: > On 12/06/2016 07:29 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 01:13:12PM -0500, james wrote: >>> A while back, we we were promised an email channel for gentoo-proxy >>> folks that did not get on well with IRC. It never materialized, >> The mail alias

Re: [gentoo-dev] (OT) Accounting systems: Ledger-CLI vs GNUcash

2016-12-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 05/12/16 03:06, james wrote: > On 12/04/2016 06:49 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 11:07:59PM +0000, M. J. Everitt wrote: >>> I gather both Quickbooks and Sage have a more modular approach to >>> "proper" accounting software applicable

Re: [gentoo-dev] (OT) Accounting systems: Ledger-CLI vs GNUcash

2016-12-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/12/16 23:49, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 11:07:59PM +0000, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> I gather both Quickbooks and Sage have a more modular approach to >> "proper" accounting software applicable to small and large businesses. I >> know my mot

Re: [gentoo-dev] (OT) Accounting systems: Ledger-CLI vs GNUcash

2016-12-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/12/16 22:55, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > (OT accounting systems) > > On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 01:10:16PM -0500, james wrote: >> GNUcash is superior to Quickbooks, as it is a 'double entry' accounting >> system. Last time I check Quickbooks was not 'double entry' and that is >> a big deal in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tinderboxing efforts in Gentoo

2016-12-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/12/16 22:15, Alec Warner wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Robin H. Johnson > wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 02:10:27PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hi, everyone. > > > > I've heard multiple times about various

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tinderboxing efforts in Gentoo

2016-12-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/12/16 14:03, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > > I recall some discussion about tinderboxing suggesting that more > important than testing all possible use flag combinations, would be to > test: > > * all use flags disabled (some packages fail miserabily if you don't > enable at least one

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Userkit.eclass

2016-11-28 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 28/11/16 19:39, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > For now who cares about other OS or distros. If Gentoo gets its house in > order > others may follow. > At the risk of a huge flame, remind me, who uses Gentoo again?! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving the stabilisation process - part 1

2016-11-24 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 24/11/16 19:41, Michael Palimaka wrote: > As I am sure everyone is aware by now, stabilisation requests on many > architectures take a long time to be actioned. There are many factors > contributing to this, but today I'd like to address three specific > problems that unnecessarily delay

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Staffing Needs page is out of date

2016-11-23 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 23/11/16 05:31, Gokturk Yuksek wrote: > Hi all, > > The Staffing Needs page on the wiki [0] seems a little out of date, > there are still mentions of "herds". I invite project leads and > members to update it. We added a reference to it in the Mentors wiki > page [1] and hoping to get more

Re: [gentoo-dev] rsync.gentoo.org rsync modules: ChangeLogs dropped from gentoo-portage

2016-11-16 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 16/11/16 08:26, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 01:11:48 + > "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > >> They will continue to be included in the Manifest until the next phase >> of the change. >> >> rsync.gentoo.org::gentoo-portage >> - tree without ChangeLogs >> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Future EAPI version operator changes

2016-11-08 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 08/11/16 08:03, konsolebox wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 3:49 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.ever...@iee.org> wrote: >> >> Ewww, WTF should we use Google as a (bad) example?! > I don't care if it's from Google or not, and you shouldn't as well. > Grow up. It's got noth

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Future EAPI version operator changes

2016-11-07 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 08/11/16 07:09, konsolebox wrote: > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> Hi, everyone. >> >> Following my previous RFC wrt version operator problems, I'd like to >> start the second part of the discussion: how to improve version >> operators in a Future

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Code shutdown requires 524 ebuilds to be fixed before end of 2016

2016-11-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 05/11/16 04:45, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 23:09:07 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Jonas Stein wrote: >> [...] >>> >> [...] >>> Yes, that is a good idea. >>> >>> cat googlecode-shutdown.txt | cut

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Code shutdown requires 524 ebuilds to be fixed before end of 2016

2016-11-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 05/11/16 01:20, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 8:30 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.ever...@iee.org> wrote: >> Apologies, getting ahead of myself here .. there must be a portage >> utility, but I've forgotten which one interrogates metadata .. I'll >> defer to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Code shutdown requires 524 ebuilds to be fixed before end of 2016

2016-11-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 05/11/16 00:23, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 05/11/16 00:20, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Jonas Stein <jst...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> If you maintain one of these packages, please fix the SRC_URI and >>> HOMEPAGE variables. >>> &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Code shutdown requires 524 ebuilds to be fixed before end of 2016

2016-11-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 05/11/16 00:20, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Jonas Stein wrote: >> If you maintain one of these packages, please fix the SRC_URI and >> HOMEPAGE variables. >> > It would probably be better if the output included the maintainer. > Hopefully this isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: dev-ada/cbind, net-dialup/dtrace, net-nds/lat, app-pda/jpilot-mail, net-dialup/drdsl, dev-util/insight, app-laptop/configure-trackpoint, x11-misc/lxmed, dev-util/ketchup, m

2016-10-29 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 29/10/16 21:25, NP-Hardass wrote: > On 10/29/2016 02:30 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> >> Someone needs to take over responsibility for the packages >> (maintainership) and fixing the issues then. If not, they should be removed. >> > I'm only talking about the packages that have no other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Android stage3

2016-10-29 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 29/10/16 16:35, Benda Xu wrote: > Hey MJE, > > "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.ever...@iee.org> writes: > >> COOL ! I'll have to give this a try .. got an old(er) Samsung Galaxy >> S4 Active, > From our past experience[1], Samsung sometimes imposed noexec to /da

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Android stage3

2016-10-29 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 29/10/16 16:14, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 29/10/16 16:09, Benda Xu wrote: >> Hi Fellows, >> >> This is an announcement of the latest Gentoo on Android stage3 tarball, >> >> >> http://distfiles.gentoo.org/experimental/prefix/rap/rap-stage3-armv7a_har

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Android stage3

2016-10-29 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 29/10/16 16:09, Benda Xu wrote: > Hi Fellows, > > This is an announcement of the latest Gentoo on Android stage3 tarball, > > > http://distfiles.gentoo.org/experimental/prefix/rap/rap-stage3-armv7a_hardfp-20161026.tar.xz > > snapshot from the latest main Gentoo repository, featuring gcc-5.4,

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP RFC: Third-party contributions

2016-10-28 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 28/10/16 16:41, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 28/10/16 08:34, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> On 10/27/2016 11:51 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 21:49:55 -0700 >>> Daniel Campbell <z...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> >>>> O

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP RFC: Third-party contributions

2016-10-28 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 28/10/16 08:34, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 10/27/2016 11:51 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 21:49:55 -0700 >> Daniel Campbell wrote: >> >>> On 10/27/2016 06:13 AM, Michał Górny wrote: [snip] To be honest, after writing it all down, I started to

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab update

2016-10-25 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 25/10/16 18:27, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 06:07:51PM +0100, James Le Cuirot wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 12:01:06 -0500 >> William Hubbs wrote: >> >>> this item is about an important fstab update. In short, people need to >>> move away from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-17 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 17/10/16 15:09, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 10/17/2016 04:04 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: >> Even if we have a list, what next? There are reasons why they are not >> packaged >> from source, and that will not change. Good to be aware, but without any >> sort >> of plan or means

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-17 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 17/10/16 14:52, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Monday, October 17, 2016 2:47:00 PM EDT M. J. Everitt wrote: >> On 17/10/16 14:44, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: >>>> If a binary package is provided in addition to its source-based >>>> equivalent, the name

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-17 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 17/10/16 14:44, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: >> If a binary package is provided in addition to its source-based >> equivalent, the name of the former should be suffixed with '-bin' >> for distinction." > Essentially what I would like to see in policy yes. Though it does not > address > the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-17 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 17/10/16 08:41, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Monday, October 17, 2016 9:17:48 AM EDT Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> But seriously, what has become of the package tags proposal? It seems >> to me that it would fit some of the things suggested previously in >> this thread. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-17 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 17/10/16 08:17, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > But seriously, what has become of the package tags proposal? It seems > to me that it would fit some of the things suggested previously in > this thread. > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Antarus/Package_Tags > > Ulrich Looks rational to me ..

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Dead project cleanup - Merging Presentation with Public Relations

2016-10-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 15/10/16 01:15, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 15/10/16 00:04, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 09:34:44PM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote: >>> On 14/10/16 09:33, Matthew Marchese wrote: >>>> Not sure what we're going to do about video. Upload th

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Dead project cleanup - Merging Presentation with Public Relations

2016-10-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 15/10/16 00:04, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 09:34:44PM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> On 14/10/16 09:33, Matthew Marchese wrote: >>> Not sure what we're going to do about video. Upload them to our >>> YouTube account and/or Archive.org for ho

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Dead project cleanup - Merging Presentation with Public Relations

2016-10-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 14/10/16 09:33, Matthew Marchese wrote: > On 10/07/2016 04:56 PM, Matthew Marchese wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Thought I'd send a RFC out to you all to get a little feedback before I >> make any changes to this since I didn't originally start the project. If >> no one responds with a good reason

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] toolchain-funcs.eclass: Add tc-check-openmp() function

2016-10-13 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 13/10/16 21:40, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 10/13/2016 04:35 PM, David Seifert wrote: >> +ewarn "Your current compiler does not support OpenMP" >> + >> +... >> + >> +die "Active compiler does not have required support > Hey, a message that isn't about

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Ban dolib and libopts in EAPI 7

2016-10-13 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 13/10/16 15:04, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:53:16 +0200 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I suggest that we ban the dolib and libopts commands in EAPI 7. >> >> Rationale: >> 1. There are about 60 instances of dolib in the tree. At least one >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: Guile security vulnerability w/ listening on localhost + port (with fix)

2016-10-11 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 11/10/16 16:53, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 10/11/2016 05:38 PM, ng0 wrote: >> Hi, >> >> if this hasn't already caught your interest here's a forward from >> guile-dev, should be of interest of the people maintaining guile on >> Gentoo. Below follows the message: >> > Created bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: Guile security vulnerability w/ listening on localhost + port (with fix)

2016-10-11 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 11/10/16 16:38, ng0 wrote: > Hi, > > if this hasn't already caught your interest here's a forward from > guile-dev, should be of interest of the people maintaining guile on > Gentoo. Below follows the message: Might be worth directly cc'ing the scheme *ahem* herd .. aka Amynka on this .. but

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub-2 configuration

2016-10-11 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 11/10/16 15:42, Tom H wrote [excerpted]: > I was sharing what I do because I've overwritten a manually-edited > grub.cfg by running grub-mkconfig/grub2-mkconfig/update-grub (re > grub2-mkconfig, I use grub-mkconfig on Gentoo because I set > "-multislot") more than once - and I know other

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub-2 configuration

2016-10-08 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 09/10/16 00:57, Ben Kohler wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Tom H > wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 11:34 PM, William Hubbs > > wrote: > > > > You don't have to use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for a mentor

2016-09-17 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 17/09/16 20:38, Kacper Kołodziej wrote: > Hello! > > I'm interested in becoming a Gentoo Developer. I'm familiar with C++, Python, > Git and some others. > > I'd like to begin with maintaining some package. I'm looking for a mentor who > will introduce me and help with quizes mentioned on

Re: [gentoo-dev] questions about small fixes/cleanups

2016-09-13 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 13/09/16 19:57, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote: > Hello Gentoo-Team, > > For some time now I'm trying to help improve the gentoo tree. I've > started with fixing some HOMEPAGE variables in ebuilds and now removing > obsolete patches from packages. > Usually (especially with obsolete patches)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: chromium-54 needs ffmpeg-3.0.1

2016-09-01 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 01/09/16 17:58, Duncan wrote: > Martin Vaeth posted on Thu, 01 Sep 2016 05:03:20 + as excerpted: > >> Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >>> Martin Vaeth posted on Wed, 31 Aug 2016 18:08:17 + as excerpted: >>> Kent Fredric wrote: > I really wish there was

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: /etc/hostname on gentoo

2016-08-28 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 28/08/16 07:30, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 08/24/2016 09:42 AM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 08/24/2016 09:33 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> * no benefit put forth so far, other than that it's the same file that >>> systemd uses, which is true but not beneficial as far as I can tell >> It's

Upgrading Old Gentoo - Was Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 24/08/16 15:08, Pacho Ramos wrote: > This reminds me a question I have for some time: is it documented in > some place what are the steps to follow for updating old systems? I > remember posts like: > http://blog.siphos.be/2013/12/upgrading-old-gentoo-installations/ > > but I don't know if that

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: /etc/hostname on gentoo

2016-08-22 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 22/08/16 16:58, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > it looks like app-emulation/docker expects /etc/hostname to exist. > > On Gentoo, this file does not exist, so I'm wondering how we can make it > exist? > > I know in OpenRC I can read it and use the value there as the hostname > instead of

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-12 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 12/08/16 18:40, james wrote: > On 08/12/2016 10:39 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:12:22 -0500 >> james wrote: >> >>> (also, I'm not hung up on 'Jentoo' as a name; perhaps 'Gintoo'? >>> >>> (peace && hth), >>> James >> >> Way outside the scope needed here.

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