Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-23 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-22 22:12:54 Jacob Godserv napisał(a): On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:11, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: 2010-03-20 01:51:44 Duncan napisał(a): So let's just recognize that it's not a perfect situation, create a news item saying that python-3 will soon

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-23 Thread Duncan
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis posted on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:37:34 +0100 as excerpted: 2010-03-22 22:12:54 Jacob Godserv napisał(a): On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:11, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: 2010-03-20 01:51:44 Duncan napisał(a): So let's just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-22 Thread Jacob Godserv
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:11, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: 2010-03-20 01:51:44 Duncan napisał(a): So let's just recognize that it's not a perfect situation, create a news item saying that python-3 will soon (give a date) be unmasked, and suggest that users

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Jean-Marc Hengen
Duncan wrote: ... ++ - I can only add the saying With freedom comes great responsibility.. Maybe the python herd could maintain a little status page which covers informations like: - Estimated python 3 compatibility in respect to the packages in the main tree. - Recommendations if installing

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 03/19/2010 08:26 PM, Alec Warner wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: You guys always make easy decisions so complicated. :P Masking a package is not complicated. Yes, that's why all the heated debates about Python 3 exist, because it's all so

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
fre 2010-03-19 klockan 05:13 -0500 skrev Dale: Because, when I installed gcc 4.3, I could then unmerge the old gcc. That's why I didn't complain about that. With python, we still have to have the current version plus the new version which is not being used at all. That was if you did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Zac Medico
On 03/20/2010 02:56 AM, Jean-Marc Hengen wrote: Duncan wrote: ... ++ - I can only add the saying With freedom comes great responsibility.. Maybe the python herd could maintain a little status page which covers informations like: - Estimated python 3 compatibility in respect to the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
I have a question related to this: If I have package X which supports python2 and python 3, and I install it without python3 installed it will only install python2-files (i.e. /usr/lib/python2.x/*), right? What happens if I later install packages Y that is only python3, and relies on the python3

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-20 13:51:37 Peter Hjalmarsson napisał(a): I have a question related to this: If I have package X which supports python2 and python 3, and I install it without python3 installed it will only install python2-files (i.e. /usr/lib/python2.x/*), right? What happens if I later install

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-20 01:51:44 Duncan napisał(a): So let's just recognize that it's not a perfect situation, create a news item saying that python-3 will soon (give a date) be unmasked, and suggest that users not needing it may wish to package.mask it themselves, with a link to documentation with

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 03/19/2010 10:57 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:54:28 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:17 +0100 Ben de Grootyng...@gentoo.org wrote: Because it is extremely useless to the great majority of users. Most packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-19 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 03/19/2010 10:57 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:54:28 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:17 +0100 Ben de Grootyng...@gentoo.org   wrote:

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-19 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:13:48 -0500 as excerpted: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:23:31 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: It's being installed because it's a dependency of something you use. Replace Python with any other library and we wouldn't be having