Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Malm wrote: All the technical discussion on the above is perfectly fine, but the way the arguments are being presented and the tone used by both sides is getting arguments into a thin line from becoming flames. Please step back before turning

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Gordon Malm
On Saturday, November 1, 2008 15:57:52 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Parallel building problems can often and should be addressed > > properly. I don't want the answer to every one that comes along to > > be to add RESTRICT="distcc". This is something to be addressed > > through developer documentat

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread David Leverton
On Saturday 01 November 2008 20:57:17 Gordon Malm wrote: > I'd like to get "distcc" added as one of the FEATURES we are able to > RESTRICT. Regardless of whether it's a good idea or not, does it fix all the known issues if the ebuild sets DISTCC_HOSTS="localhost" in the environment?

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Ben de Groot wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used > for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories > for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With the > help of a few users I have been developing ebui

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Jan Kundrát
Gordon Malm wrote: It looks to me like you've already made up your mind. How is hardened doing the entirely wrong thing? From the page [1] you mentioned: "If so, that seems to me like an abuse of the -D option." The abuse is in changing the compiler behavior based on -D options. What do you

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:47:09 -0700 Gordon Malm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It looks to me like hardened is doing entirely the wrong thing. > > Thus, the proper fix is to make hardened behave itself. > > It looks to me like you've already made up your mind. How is > hardened doing the entirely w

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Gordon Malm
On Saturday, November 1, 2008 15:11:16 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:58:39 -0700 > > Gordon Malm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use madwifi-ng extensively and have experienced the same issue with > > madwifi-ng as stated in that bug. For bug #167844, please read > > comment #13

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:30:41 +0100 Jose Luis Rivero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to > > ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with > > 4.3, and if not please stabilize a version that does i

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:58:39 -0700 Gordon Malm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use madwifi-ng extensively and have experienced the same issue with > madwifi-ng as stated in that bug. For bug #167844, please read > comment #13 and http://code.google.com/p/distcc/issues/detail?id=25. > There's nothin

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Gordon Malm
On Saturday, November 1, 2008 14:28:06 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:21:43 -0700 > > Gordon Malm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you're compiling an out-of-tree module that requires the kernel be > > compiled with support for a particular item and the distccd host's > > kernel do

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:21:43 -0700 Gordon Malm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're compiling an out-of-tree module that requires the kernel be > compiled with support for a particular item and the distccd host's > kernel does not have that support compiles fail. Reference bug > #120001 (though I

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Gordon Malm
If you're compiling an out-of-tree module that requires the kernel be compiled with support for a particular item and the distccd host's kernel does not have that support compiles fail. Reference bug #120001 (though I know that it was properly diagnosed there). Then there's also this doozie. -

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 13:57:17 -0700 Gordon Malm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But in the case of out-of-tree kernel modules the idea > of distributing compile jobs to other machines is fundamentally > flawed IMO. Why? And how are out of tree kernel modules in any way special when it comes to distcc?

[gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-01 Thread Gordon Malm
I'd like to get "distcc" added as one of the FEATURES we are able to RESTRICT. It is true that RESTRICT="distcc" is usually not the proper solution to problems. But in the case of out-of-tree kernel modules the idea of distributing compile jobs to other machines is fundamentally flawed IMO. A

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-11-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:42:27 + Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sys-block/viaideinfo And that one. rej

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-11-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:42:27 + Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dev-util/rej Taken. Unavoidable really. :) Kind regards, jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Jose Luis Rivero
Ryan Hill wrote: In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with 4.3, and if not please stabilize a version that does in the near future if at all possible. Stabilizing this version is going to be a huge job du

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:30:09 +0100 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to > > ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with > > 4.3, and if not please st

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 12:05 +0100, Ben de Groot wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used > for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories > for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With the > help of a fe

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Robert Bridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As a use who looked at LXDE for older machines, but decided that not > to mess around with overlays on otherwise stable x86 boxes, can I > vote for this? You can, and I am sure you can also rely on that overlay to be in good shape, so test it. +1 by the

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to > ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with > 4.3, and if not please stabilize a version that does in the near > future if at all possible. Stabilizing this version is

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Robert Bridge
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:05:54 +0100 Ben de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used > for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the > categories for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, > xfce).

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Ben de Groot
Hi, I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With the help of a few users I have been developing ebuilds for these packages in the lx

[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2008-11-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole G

Re: [gentoo-dev] Flags to punt (including: kerberos USE flag)

2008-11-01 Thread David Leverton
On Saturday 01 November 2008 02:44:50 Josh Saddler wrote: > emboss - Seriously. Who needs the European Biology Open Software Suite > on a *desktop* oriented system? That flag is only used by a few sci-biology packages, so if you don't have any of those installed, it doesn't matter whether the fla