# Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
# The firmware cleanup, part #1. Can be unmasked after
# cleaning up the package if it's still needed.
# Some of these install to wrong directory, /lib64/firmware
# as opposed to correct /lib/firmware
# Some of these don't have maintainer
#
On 10/02/13 05:08, Mike Gilbert (floppym) wrote:
floppym 13/02/10 03:08:22
- insinto /etc/udev/rules.d
+ insinto /lib/udev/rules.d
The udevdir is dynamic, not static, so:
inherit udev
insinto $(get_udevdir)/rules.d
Thanks
On 10 February 2013 10:43, Douglas Freed dwfr...@mtu.edu wrote:
* all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same way
as
10.0 was
* all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc
* all 10.0 profiles have been deprecated
Suggestion: perhaps a news item should be
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
# Upstream dropped support for linux time ago (#434390),
# possible security issues (#360539). You can use Windows
# version with PlayOnLinux. Removal in a month.
media-gfx/picasa
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
# Abandoned by upstream,
On 1/12/13 11:49 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
Please review attached automatically generated stabilization candidates
for January.
Oops, today I've tried my _separate_ script to file stabilization bugs
based on a generated list of packages to support that workflow.
Now the bug is that the list
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:22:13 +0100
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote:
I can actually batch invalidate all of them. This will generate some
further bug spam (I apologize), but can save your time dealing with
the mess. Please let me know what's your preference.
The URL field is
On 02/10/2013 05:01 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
# Fails with gcc-4.7, crashes (#301946, #312073), problems with
# boost (#319921), problems with python-2.7 (#338826), really old
# version in the tree, people should move to sci overlay one (#424659).
#
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:47:58 +0800
Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 02/10/2013 05:01 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
# Fails with gcc-4.7, crashes (#301946, #312073), problems with
# boost (#319921), problems with python-2.7 (#338826), really
El dom, 10-02-2013 a las 19:47 +0800, Patrick Lauer escribió:
On 02/10/2013 05:01 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
# Fails with gcc-4.7, crashes (#301946, #312073), problems with
# boost (#319921), problems with python-2.7 (#338826), really old
# version
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
+1. If you can't manage moving/updating your packages properly
and on-time from the sci overlay, please get rid of it.
Seems like the alternative solution is to just not have these ebuilds
in the main tree.
There is
Dne Ne 10. února 2013 19:47:58, Patrick Lauer napsal(a):
On 02/10/2013 05:01 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
# Fails with gcc-4.7, crashes (#301946, #312073), problems with
# boost (#319921), problems with python-2.7 (#338826), really old
# version in
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On 10/02/13 12:47, Patrick Lauer wrote:
So instead of moving things from random overlays to the tree we
remove packages now, remove features from other packages because of
that (openfoam) and then ... tell users to use an overlay?
Somehow
On 10/02/13 10:10, Samuli Suominen wrote:
# Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
# The firmware cleanup, part #1. Can be unmasked after
# cleaning up the package if it's still needed.
# Some of these install to wrong directory, /lib64/firmware
# as opposed to correct /lib/firmware
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Alexander Berntsen
alexan...@plaimi.net wrote:
On 10/02/13 13:11, Rich Freeman wrote:
- just look up your average non-core piece of FOSS software and the
first thing their Ubuntu install instructions will tell you to do
is to add some repository to your list.
On Feb 10, 2013 8:32 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 10 February 2013 10:43, Douglas Freed dwfr...@mtu.edu wrote:
* all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same
way
as
10.0 was
* all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc
* all 10.0
On 10 February 2013 14:06, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 14:34:14 schrieb Markos Chandras:
new profiles? As a Gentoo user who just got a giant red warning from
portage that his active profile was deprecated, I feel like many people
are
Dne Ne 10. února 2013 13:51:16, Alexander Berntsen napsal(a):
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On 10/02/13 12:47, Patrick Lauer wrote:
So instead of moving things from random overlays to the tree we
remove packages now, remove features from other packages because of
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On 02/10/2013 10:01 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013) # Fails with
gcc-4.7, crashes (#301946, #312073), problems with # boost
(#319921), problems with python-2.7 (#338826), really old # version
in the tree, people
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:10:51 +0200
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
# Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
# The firmware cleanup, part #1. Can be unmasked after
# cleaning up the package if it's still needed.
# Some of these install to wrong directory,
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote:
no matter what are Richs opinions he is not the one crating global policies
for this, so the defaults still are that we encourage adding all stuff to main
tree where possible.
Relax, and don't make it personal.
The
Hi,
On 2013-02-10 22:06, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 14:34:14 schrieb Markos Chandras:
new profiles? As a Gentoo user who just got a giant red warning from
portage that his active profile was deprecated, I feel like many people
are going to be confused about this.
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:15:43 schrieb Markos Chandras:
I suspect most people are interested in understanding what changed
(since deprecation means that the new thing is better than the old
one). Moreover, the news item is another way to assure them that
everything is not as bad as
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On 02/10/2013 12:47 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: Would anyone be
Would anyone be terribly upset if I started pillaging this silly
overlay? (And any other overlays that look like they are fun)
Go ahead, I will help you.
On 02/10/2013 12:59 PM, Pacho
El dom, 10-02-2013 a las 17:46 +0300, Sergei Trofimovich escribió:
[...]
The source of confusion was non-working device by default.
Maybe 'IUSE=+firmware; RDEPEND=firmware? ( sys-kernel/linux-firmware )'
for virtual/linux-sources would help user experience a bit.
Sometimes firmware loader
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:59:57 schrieb Patrick Nagel:
Actually, if you could add a note that before switching to the new profile,
you should update portage if it's old, that would be even more
user-friendly:
Already done, see separate mail...
--
Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux
El dom, 10-02-2013 a las 16:05 +0100, hasufell escribió:
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On 02/10/2013 12:47 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: Would anyone be
Would anyone be terribly upset if I started pillaging this silly
overlay? (And any other overlays that look like they are
On 10 February 2013 20:11, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Otherwise, purpose-driven overlays just make sense - they allow a
different set of contributors who are more familiar/interested in a
set of packages to maintain them.
It makes more sense to let those people be proxy-maintainers
On 10 February 2013 23:02, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:15:43 schrieb Markos Chandras:
I suspect most people are interested in understanding what changed
(since deprecation means that the new thing is better than the old
one). Moreover, the
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 10/02/13 05:08, Mike Gilbert (floppym) wrote:
floppym 13/02/10 03:08:22
- insinto /etc/udev/rules.d
+ insinto /lib/udev/rules.d
The udevdir is dynamic, not static, so:
inherit udev
insinto
Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
Having nice mailinglist where users can contribute simple patches
would be briliant thing to use :-)
That's still a waste of time compared to gerrit. You should look at
it if you don't know it already.
//Peter
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
# Some of these install to wrong directory, /lib64/firmware
# as opposed to correct /lib/firmware
# Some of these don't have maintainer
# Some of these are replaced by the firmware from the
# linux-firmware package:
hasufell wrote:
there should only be two reasons to have ebuilds in a seperate
overlay: they depend on dropped packages or they are unsupportable
(e.g. because they are in early alpha stage or broken in some ways).
Keep in mind that there may be lots of other cases which you have not
and can
On 10 February 2013 15:02, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:15:43 schrieb Markos Chandras:
I suspect most people are interested in understanding what changed
(since deprecation means that the new thing is better than the old
one). Moreover, the
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 10 February 2013 20:11, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Otherwise, purpose-driven overlays just make sense - they allow a
different set of contributors who are more familiar/interested in a
set of packages to
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# Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
# The firmware cleanup, part #1. Can be unmasked after
# cleaning up the package if it's still needed.
# Some of these install to wrong directory,
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get
proper firmware installed in the past in some machines :/
for fw in $(strings -a -n 10 $(find /lib/modules -name '*.ko') | sed
-n 's/^firmware=//p' | sort
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get
proper firmware installed in the past in some machines :/
+1 from me; I've had a few machines break on kernel upgrades because I
didn't have the proper
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
(I guess older kernel sources came with the firmware?)
See e.g. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42689#c5
--
Maxim Kammerer
Liberté Linux: http://dee.su/liberte
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get
proper firmware installed in the past in some machines :/
+1 from me; I've had a few
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:
Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
Having nice mailinglist where users can contribute simple patches
would be briliant thing to use :-)
That's still a waste of time compared to gerrit. You should look at
it if you don't know it already.
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote:
+1 from me; I've had a few machines break on kernel upgrades because I
didn't have the proper firmware installed (I guess older kernel
sources came with the firmware?).
This is another problem, namely dependency level
Alec Warner wrote:
Having nice mailinglist where users can contribute simple patches
would be briliant thing to use :-)
That's still a waste of time compared to gerrit. You should look at
it if you don't know it already.
I'll take patchwork over gerrit, honestly ;)
Did you use
PR # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (10 Feb 2013)
PR # Fails with gcc-4.7, crashes (#301946, #312073), problems with
PR # boost (#319921), problems with python-2.7 (#338826), really old
PR # version in the tree, people should move to sci overlay one (#424659).
PR # Removal in a month.
PR
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On 02/10/2013 10:55 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org
wrote:
# Some of these install to wrong directory, /lib64/firmware
# as opposed to correct /lib/firmware
# Some of these don't
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On 02/10/2013 11:54 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums
On Sun, 10 February 2013 Maxim Kammerer m...@dee.su wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get
proper firmware installed in the past in some machines :/
for fw in $(strings -a -n 10 $(find
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 16:02:55 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel:
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:15:43 schrieb Markos Chandras:
I suspect most people are interested in understanding what changed
(since deprecation means that the new thing is better than the old
one). Moreover, the news
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote:
Honestly while I agree this could have been handled a little more
carefully we all win by having ONE place for firmware. The firmware
package is like 20MB, if you don't have that much free harddrive space
AKH == Andreas K Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org writes:
AKH To be honest I did not really see the necessity since the big red
AKH warning exactly tells you what to do (and even which profile to
AKH pick, which would be more complicated in a news item).
But it doesn't tell one why the change was
Since I just sent a why to post a news item note, that exactly covers
things.
Thanks!
-JimC
--
James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Bruno bonbon...@internet.lu wrote:
On Sun, 10 February 2013 Maxim Kammerer m...@dee.su wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get
proper firmware installed in
Combined with various less-than-free licenses, installing one huge blob of
firmware is problematic for many users, also from a security point of
view.
How does having additional firmware installed affect security at all?
Firmware is only loaded when specifically requested by a loaded driver
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:06:39 -0500
James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote:
AKH == Andreas K Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org writes:
AKH To be honest I did not really see the necessity since the big red
AKH warning exactly tells you what to do (and even which profile to
AKH pick, which would be
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2013, 00:34:19 schrieb Michał Górny:
actually *do* to one's system?
Out of curiosity, does portage suggest switching to the new profiles
even if it doesn't support its EAPI?
Unfortunately, it seems yes. (Feature request?)
--
Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux
On 02/10/2013 03:34 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:06:39 -0500
James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote:
AKH == Andreas K Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org writes:
AKH To be honest I did not really see the necessity since the big red
AKH warning exactly tells you what to do (and even
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On 02/10/2013 04:45 PM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote:
Honestly while I agree this could have been handled a little more
carefully we all win by having ONE place for
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Douglas Freed dwfr...@mtu.edu wrote:
How does having additional firmware installed affect security at all?
Firmware is only loaded when specifically requested by a loaded driver that
needs to use it, and only if that driver is actually in use. That's like
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote:
I am marked maintainer of linux-firmware due to my desire to make sure
wifi related things work. I have no desire at all to implement use
expand for this, HOWEVER, I am willing to accept a patch for that if it
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2013-02-10 23h59 UTC.
Removals:
x11-themes/oxygen-gtk3 2013-02-07 04:13:24 zx2c4
dev-python/wsgiref 2013-02-07 19:02:23
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On 02/10/2013 07:18 PM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote:
I am marked maintainer of linux-firmware due to my desire to make sure
wifi related things work. I have no desire at
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 20:21:56 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:15:03 -0300
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
I hope this will be trivial to most of you but after seeing bug
#455900 and the vast majority of developers not even thinking twice
before
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:09:38 +1100
Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 9/02/2013 23:52, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:38:35 +1100
Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote:
I even noticed some maintainers adding subslots dependencies on
libraries that do
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 15:12:15 +0100
Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 08/02/13 22:46, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:41:04 +0100
Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 07 of February 2013 06:52:44 Peter Stuge wrote:
Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
we as
On 02/10/2013 03:45 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2013, 00:34:19 schrieb Michał Górny:
actually *do* to one's system?
Out of curiosity, does portage suggest switching to the new profiles
even if it doesn't support its EAPI?
Unfortunately, it seems yes. (Feature
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
Any objections if I slap a generic package.mask on every firmware package
installing to wrong directory?
Half of them install to /$(get_libdir)/firmware as opposed to correct
/lib/firmware.
Most of them are
J. Roeleveld wrote:
I, as a user, prefer not to have to hunt for firmware for devices
supported vy the kernel. I would either install all of them or
filter out the firmwares for devices I am unlikely to get.
I, as another user, prefer not to have a whole bunch of firmware
installed if I only
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