Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o: Killing VERIFIED state, possibly introducing STABILIZED

2016-06-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
same resolutions as "RESOLVED"? So, for a stable package a bug would go CONFIRMED -> NEEDSTABLE FIXED -> RESOLVED FIXED -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o: Killing VERIFIED state, possibly introducing STABILIZED

2016-06-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > To be honest, I don't really see the need for VERIFIED state. Since > it's used scarcely, it can't be really relied upon. Some users use it > completely incorrectly (e.g. when the bug should be reopened instead). > Indeed. Kill VERIFIED with fire. -- A

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] 'Gentoo Linux' bugzilla component reorganization

2016-06-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
the bugwranglers [*] No, I'm NOT opposed to bug auto-assignment. I just think we should run and test it first, and once we've concluded that it works fine, then tear down our old auxiliary constructs. Usually you don't tear down the old bridge over the river before building the new one. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: OpenAFS no longer needs kernel option DEBUG_RODATA

2016-07-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
ailure modes. [B] [A] Let's say there are overlays which package StarOffice, Go-OOO and some other random OOO fork. Do I have to block them all because of file collisions then? [B] The package manager could be broken to leave some random files on the system too... maybe we need some more bl

Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care

2016-08-24 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
h upgrading. Large parts of Perl are already EAPI=6. Such an old portage will not see these ebuilds and therefore think that 2/3 of all Perl packages have been removed from the tree, with corresponding hilarity. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/

[gentoo-dev] depend.apache.eclass and EAPI=6

2016-09-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
r EAPI, or help figuring out how to fix the eclass. *** The current state is untenable because not everyone will notice the problem, leading to even more depend.apache EAPI=6 ebuilds. Cheers, Andreas - -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.ak

Re: [gentoo-dev] depend.apache.eclass and EAPI=6

2016-09-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
t and updated by the > eclass maintainer in order to not require an audit by each ebuild > maintainer inheriting the eclass. This was discussed on the last council > meeting but did not get to a vote. You get my vote for that... - -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux develope

Re: [gentoo-dev] depend.apache.eclass and EAPI=6

2016-09-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2016, 00:12:26 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand: > On 10/01/2016 12:09 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2016, 00:01:54 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand: > >>> This *will* break

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Problems and limitations of the current version dependency specs

2016-11-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
nted so we can finally get away cleanly from the unrealistic "no useflags for optional runtime deps" policy. Cheers, Andreas - -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] depend.apache.eclass EAPI=6 support

2016-12-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Please review. Given that I'm only tangentially involved with Apache myself, I would like to keep the changes to the eclass minimal... [The last nontrivial changes to the eclass were made in 2012 and 2008.] -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] depend.apache.eclass EAPI=6 support

2016-12-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Montag, 5. Dezember 2016, 01:12:56 schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > On 12/04/2016 06:18 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Starting with EAPI=6, the variables APACHE_BASEDIR and APACHE_MODULESDIR > > are not exported in globa

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] depend.apache.eclass: fix for EAPI=6

2016-12-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
n your patch... Cheers, Andreas - -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEEwo/LD3vtE3qssC2JpEzzc+fumeQFAlhIeDJfFIAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3Bl

Please stay on-topic. (was: Re: Thread moving to -nfp LIST [Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentooo 501(c) accounting])

2016-12-08 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
to deal with the IRS (should that even be discussed on a publicly archived list?) find their best audience on the nfp list. After all, whoever wants to participate can subscribe there, and whoever doesn't subscribe there probably doesn't *want* to hear about it. - -- Andreas K. Huettel Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Code shutdown requires 524 ebuilds to be fixed before end of 2016

2016-12-21 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
in the Gentoo repository, even if the original source becomes unavailable. It's not nice that the original SRC_URI is gone, it's kind of a QA violation, but nothing breaks. So let's just keep fixing packages. At some point all will be gone. - -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux de

[gentoo-dev] Improving profiles/profiles.desc and repoman checking

2017-01-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
So, things are a little bit messy right now. We have "stable arches", "arches that are ~arch only (but occasional stable keywords can pop up and be ignored)", "arches that are ~arch only". In addition, some are always checked with repoman, some only with -d or (hic sunt leones) -e flag. The la

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving profiles/profiles.desc and repoman checking

2017-01-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 28. Januar 2017, 20:32:54 CET schrieb M. J. Everitt: > > How does this compare/contrast/integrate with kent\n's proposal > regarding "profiles.types"? Oops. Sorry I'm a bit back in mailing list reading. I came up with this some time ago, and wanted to finally send it out. Will read

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving repoman checking, better idea (add arch.desc file)

2017-01-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
So I've been talking to kent\n and the conclusion is that our ideas basically do and achieve the same, with a slightly different approach. (I still like mine better though. :) However one valid point that came up in discussions is - whether an arch supports stable keywords is a per-arch setting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving repoman checking, better idea (add arch.desc file)

2017-01-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 30. Januar 2017, 09:29:06 CET schrieb Kent Fredric: > --- >amd64 keywords=strict checkdeps=stable enforcedeps=stable >mips keywords=mixed checkdeps=stable enforcedeps=dev >m68k keywords=mixed checkdeps=expenforcedeps=exp > --- The problem with this is that (already

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving repoman checking, better idea (add arch.desc file)

2017-01-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Proposal No 2: > > * Leave profiles.desc unmodified > > * Introduce a new file arch.desc, which contains the "stability > > status" of an > > arch; > > > > Syntax: 2 columns, > > # arch status > > amd64 stable > > mipstesting > > sh unstable > > > > The meaning of the

[gentoo-dev] last rites: net-libs/libnfsidmap

2022-02-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2022-02-27) # Outdated, fails to build with glibc-2.34, bug 806755 # Has been integrated into net-fs/nfs-utils, please use that instead. # Removal in 30 days. net-libs/libnfsidmap -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-syst

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > > > I wouldn't block anyone from doing this, but it's not something I'm > > personally interested in pursuing. I see very little value here. > > First, you're trying to justify replacing repoman on an entirely subjective > opinion of "I think is superior" ... Well, if you've ever tried it y

[gentoo-dev] base-system team meeting 15/May 19:00 utc, #gentoo-base

2022-05-08 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hey all, we'll do a base-system team meeting 15/May 19:00 utc, on #gentoo-base. There will be only one agenda item, lead election (since I'm stepping down as base lead and will not seek re-election). Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council,

[gentoo-dev] it's time for 22.0 profiles

2022-05-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, it's time for introducing 22.0 profiles [1] - so if you have any things that need to be switched in an incompatible way tree-wide, or if you have any suggestions on how to change our default settings, please reply to this mail with details! Cheers, Andreas [1] Why? That's a quite lon

[gentoo-dev] last rites: mail-client/novell-groupwise-client

2022-06-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2022-06-05) # Ages old, abandoned upstream, and server installs now provide an # actually useful webmail interface. Removal in 30 days. mail-client/novell-groupwise-client -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, qa, toolchain, base-system,

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] RFC: "Trusted contributor model"

2022-07-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > 2nd RFC: Recruiting proven contributors without a mentor > > I'm aware recruiters don't really need to ask a permission here, but I > believe it's great to gauge the general feelings about this beforehand. > What would you say if recruiters started more actively approaching > potential develo

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] RFC: "Trusted contributor model"

2022-07-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> Once again new council has been elected: congratulations to the chosen > members! And once again many nominees expressed their wishes to see more > non-developer contributors to become official developers. Yet, only very > few people (if any) are interested in mentoring them. I get it, the > rela

[gentoo-dev] 23.0 profiles - which features?

2022-10-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hey all, in the past I already sent a mail about features for a next profile version. The feedback was rather limited, but anyway we got quite a list of ideas. The general tracker is bug 876891. In the following I would like to put up the various features for discussion, in order of bug number.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Various packages up for grabs (avahi, curl, fcron, tor...)

2023-01-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > acct-group/cron > acct-group/fcron > acct-user/cron > acct-user/fcron > dev-libs/libelf > net-misc/curl > sys-process/cronbase > sys-process/fcron > virtual/cron > virtual/libelf > These should probably go to base-system -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (cou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-announce] Gentoo Services Migration: Bugzilla, Forums, Wiki

2023-03-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Just keep in mind that CI can't search for open bugs on bugzilla (because of > a down of > course), so bugs that have already been reported in the past, may be reported > on github > too, but from my perspective is better have few duplicates rather than > unnoticed bugs > that may reach

Re: [gentoo-dev] What happened to gcc-12.3.0?

2023-06-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2023, 06:02:14 CEST schrieb Joshua Kinard: > > Noticing that the ebuild for gcc-12.3.0 got dropped with little explanation. > It is the upstream stable > release. I am eyeballing #906310 as what may have triggered the drop, but I > find it a bit of a stretch ... This

[gentoo-dev] adding sec-keys/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release to @system

2023-08-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Dear all, I'd like to add sec-keys/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release to @system - any objections? The package contains a single file (~20k) with the public keys used for stage, manifest, and binpackage signing. This is more of a formal request since portage already depends on it anyway, and the

[gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-11 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2023-09-11) # Dead project accumulating open bugs and incompatibilities. # No maintainer commits since February 2021. # Bugs 673834, 713106, 753134, 667686, 771705, 668880, 770358, 851255, # 711462, 904741, ... Removal in 30 days. sys-fs/eudev -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-11 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 11. September 2023, 17:22:43 CEST schrieb orbea: > Upstream is maintained still. > > https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev > No, it's not. -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Descript

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> >> I'm an outsider to Gentoo development (just a heavy user for over a > >> decade both personally and professionally) so I might have missed > >> something. I just find it puzzling. > > > > I'm not puzzled by what is going on, or by your email, because it > > happens basically anytime a high-pro

[gentoo-dev] last rites (kinda, long masked): sys-apps/opentmpfiles

2023-09-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-07-06, 2023-09-15) # No longer maintained upstream; masked everywhere for two years now. # Please see also the 2021-07-15-opentmpfiles-deprecation news item. # https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-07-15-opentmpfiles-deprecation.html # # The replacement is sys-a

[gentoo-dev] last rites: app-editors/fte

2023-10-31 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
+# Andreas K. Hüttel (2023-10-28) +# Fails to build with glibc-2.38 (and musl). No maintainer. +# Removal on 2023-11-28. Bug #713402 +app-editors/fte + -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Descrip

Re: [gentoo-dev] media-video/mpv removed USE flag

2023-11-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 22. November 2023, 00:33:18 CET schrieb stefan1@shitposting.expert: > I've noticed that on my last @world update, mpv's libplacebo USE flag > got removed and portage pulled in libplacebo. > Was there any reason behind this change? Special request by Placebo Domingo. > Mpv has

[gentoo-dev] Update on 23.0 profiles

2023-11-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, here's a brief update on the upcoming 23.0 profiles. * All planned features are implemented (but not necessarily tested). https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Toolchain/23.0_profile_transition * A draft upgrade document exists. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Toolchain/23.0_upd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on 23.0 profiles

2023-11-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 26. November 2023, 17:50:22 CET schrieb Alex Boag-Munroe: > On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 at 23:27, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > * A draft upgrade document exists. > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Toolchain/23.0_update_instructions > > I can't edit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on 23.0 profiles

2023-11-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
7;s no plasma profile with merged-usr but > without systemd anyway... except that there is: > default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/plasma, it's just not mentioned in the > table. It's fairly simple: * In 17.x, every systemd split-usr profile has a corresponding merged-usr pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on 23.0 profiles

2023-11-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Wait, does this mean that split-usr will be gone soon? > Define soon. It took us 6 years to come up with new profiles. Guess how long the next ones will take. -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)

[gentoo-dev] Official binary package hosting

2023-12-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, you may have already seen the announcement on the www.gentoo.org front page- our binary package hosting finally went "officially live". https://www.gentoo.org/news/2023/12/29/Gentoo-binary.html From the announcement: "To speed up working with slow hardware and for overall convenience,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global USE=gpg

2023-12-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > we have many local gpg useflags which basically just enable gpg. > > Should we merge these to one global useflag? > > > > Additionally we have a few gpgme useflags. > > See also https://bugs.gentoo.org/679634 > > > > What are your ideas? > > > > We have also have a bunch of USE=pgp and USE=

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Block ebuilds installing tests to ${D} by default

2024-02-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2024, 09:15:39 CET schrieb Robin H. Johnson: > TL;DR: > I'd like to propose a change where packages should NOT install their > tests to ${D} by default. Such an install may optionally enabled with > USE=test, which should be decoupled from FEATURES=test. Or depending on >

[gentoo-dev] Profile 23.0 testing with stages and binhost (part 1 of 2)

2024-02-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, for the following arches (and only these) ** GLIBC: ** alpha, arm, ia64, loong, m68k, ppc, ppc64, riscv, s390, sparc, x86 ** MUSL: ** riscv the 23.0 profiles are ready for testing, including stage downloads, binary packages, and update instructions for existing installations. IMPORTAN

[gentoo-dev] Profile 23.0 news item (was: Re: Profile 23.0 testing with stages and binhost (part 1 of 2))

2024-02-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
News item / update instructions draft: Title: Profile upgrade to version 23.0 available Author: Andreas K. Huettel Posted: -mm-dd Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 2.0 Display-If-Keyword: alpha Display-If-Keyword: arm Display-If-Keyword: ia64 Display-If-Keyword: loong Display-If-Keyword: m68k

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 27. Februar 2024, 15:45:17 CET schrieb Michał Górny: > Hello, > > Given the recent spread of the "AI" bubble, I think we really need to > look into formally addressing the related concerns. In my opinion, > at this point the only reasonable course of action would be to safely > ban "

[gentoo-dev] Profile 23.0 testing with stages and binhost (part 2 of 2)

2024-03-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, the 23.0 profiles are ready for testing, including stage downloads, binary packages, and update instructions for existing installations, for all arches. IMPORTANT Exception IMPORTANT ** musl on (32bit) arm and x86 does NOT work yet (gcc build failure) ** IMPORTANT Update instructions IM

Re: [gentoo-dev] mirror storage growth rate

2024-03-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi Jaco, * we have more stages * the binary packages have to go somewhere * and, temporarily, things are duplicated due to the 17.x / 23.0 profile transition The third point will eventually go away. However, I'm not sure how much it actually contributes. https://www.akhuettel.de/~huettel/plot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Profile 23.0 testing with stages and binhost (part 2 of 2)

2024-03-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Note 2: While there are 23.0 split-usr profiles, the *stage* downloads > > are *all* of the merged-usr type. Why? Not because I'm a big fan of that, > > but because we should try to unify and standardize a bit again - to > > avoid too many different build configurations leading to too many >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Profile 23.0 testing with stages and binhost (part 2 of 2)

2024-03-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 16. März 2024, 13:12:04 CET schrieb Duncan: > Andreas K. Huettel posted on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:12:54 +0100 as excerpted: > > > Note 3: amd64 now has CET turned on by default. > > https://docs.kernel.org/next/x86/shstk.html If you have already used the > > u

[gentoo-dev] Update on the 23.0 profiles

2024-04-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, so here's a small update on the state of the 23.0 profiles: * For all arches, the 23.0 profiles are now marked at the same stability status (mostly for the CI and pkgcheck) as before the 17.x profiles. Most 17.x profiles have been downgraded to "exp". * All stage downloads (with th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on the 23.0 profiles

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Most 17.x profiles have been downgraded to "exp". > > I could imagine there is a reason to downgrade those back to 'exp', > could you elaborate a bit on that? > > Isn't it bit strange that a 'stable' profiles gets downgraded back to > 'exp'? Then again, I am not sure about the implications

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on the 23.0 profiles

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 7. April 2024, 04:03:01 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > On Sat, 2024-04-06 at 17:06 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > so here's a small update on the state of the 23.0 profiles: > > > > Why was this silently added

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on the 23.0 profiles

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 7. April 2024, 14:51:55 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > On Sun, 2024-04-07 at 14:35 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > > Uhh, I dont really remember, I think some Chinese-sounding guy asked > > me for it... (j/k) > > It is remarkably bad timing. How

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Update on the 23.0 profiles

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> I see no way of migrating to 23.0 profile because of not-recompilable > packages that are installed (over 4 years) which block --emptytree, > and do not wish to be forced to migrate to merged-usr on an openrc box > without a compelling need (on principle). That sounds a bit like self-inflicted p

[gentoo-dev] news item and patch series: 2024-05-10-perl-features-use-expand.en.txt

2024-05-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
reply. Title: dev-lang/perl useflags become a PERL_FEATURES use-expand Author: Andreas K. Huettel Posted: 2024-05-10 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 2.0 Starting with dev-lang/perl-5.38.2-r3, the three use flags "debug", "ithreads", and "quadmath" of Perl are rename

nomenclature, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> As you all know, Gentoo supports many various arches, in various degrees > (stable, dev, exp). Let me explain those 3 statuses fast: > > * stable arch - meaning we have stable profile for this arch, and stable > keywords across base-system + varying degree of seriousness. We stable > stuff after

Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> alpha > > Exp arch, with nearly (or maybe already) full correct dep-tree. matoro > did a lot of great work here, so I think we should promote it to dev > arch, so dep-tree remains unbroken. We dekeyworded a lot of stuff, > cleaned it up, so a nice "completion bonus". > > =

riscv, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> riscv > > Dev arch. I don't have much info on it, but I heard some mess with > riscv32 and riscv64, so maybe time to split it? I leave it to riscv arch > team, which works quite well, but I'll be happy to open discussion for it. riscv is something new and growing, but for now

ia64, was: Re: Misc arch plans (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans)

2024-06-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > ia64 > > > > Dev 64-bit arch. Kernel dropped support, glibc dropped support, devbox > > died - days are short before full exp status or full removal of arch. > > Yeah, no interest in ia64, sorry. I'd like it to just go. This is probably unavoidable given that our devbox and

32bit vs 64bit, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> 32-bit arches > > This includes stable arches x86, arm, ppc, sparc32, dev arches s390, and > maybe more. Those are in much worse situation, with a mess on various > fronts, some of them super hard to continue support. For example > qtwebengine is less and less likely to manage

splitting keywords, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> I would hope to split this arch into the two endianness, but I suspect > nobody has the energy to do it. Oh well. [...] > Dev arch. I don't have much info on it, but I heard some mess with > riscv32 and riscv64, so maybe time to split it? I leave it to riscv arch > team, which works quite well, b

[gentoo-dev] mips needs your help

2024-06-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, mips stage builds are currently broken since needed dependencies lack the mips keyword. If we want to continue building mips stages, then someone will need to work on open keyword requests and verification of the dependency tree. I started looking at it, but with already way too many Ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] mips needs your help

2024-06-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > mips stage builds are currently broken since needed dependencies lack the > > mips keyword. > > [...] > > > Can you share what exactly is missing? This is a longterm project of mine, > but ever since the mail archives went out I can no longer see failed stage > builds to check. > Sure, n

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Proposal] Split arch keywords for ppc64 & riscv

2024-08-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi Arthur, > a. Splitting ppc64 keyword into ppc64 and ppc64le > b. Splitting riscv keyword into riscv(64?) and riscv32 So in principle these steps both make sense. The problem is mostly that such an operation on the living Gentoo has not been attempted in recorded history. There is no precede

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Proposal] Split arch keywords for ppc64 & riscv

2024-08-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 5. August 2024, 00:39:13 CEST schrieb Robin H. Johnson: > > Step 2: Formally introduce the new keywords in ebuilds by duplication. > > Any "ppc64" in keywords becomes "ppc64 ppc64le". > > Any "riscv" becomes "riscv riscv32 riscv64". > > No exceptions. Can be done automatically. Until th

[gentoo-dev] Flipping one mips profile to dev?!

2024-09-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Dear all, the number of packages with unfulfilled dependencies in mips has decreased a lot, mostly, as far as I know, due to the tireless work of matoro and arturzam. Right now we're at 38. As such I would like to switch one of the mips profiles from exp to dev. This makes such breakage visib

Re: [gentoo-dev] Flipping one mips profile to dev?!

2024-09-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
And committed. 31 new warnings (compared to 400 preexisting ones). :) Am Montag, 2. September 2024, 23:14:50 CEST schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > Dear all, > > the number of packages with unfulfilled dependencies in mips has decreased a > lot, > mostly, as far as I know, due

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
he sense of easy handling, noone will probably want to edit profiles/highly_unstable/next_version/package.stable.mask. I have basically given up that this "feature" will ever become useful for the main tree. Long live inertia. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
ntoo dev, you will not need to touch it, and then learning the minimal CVS requirements should then be the very least of your worries. So this point is probably a bit out of context here. (/me remembers that the monthly reminder mail "how is the migration going" still needs to be sent...)

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
profile directory or the base profile (since there the main profile EAPI setting will apply also in the future). Other disadvantages have also been discussed. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
nce now all existing profiles require EAPI 5, move that requirement to the profile root directory. Comments? -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
ages not being stable. OK then unless someone brings up valid points against this, let's suggest for the upcoming meeting that Council decides * whether to implement solution a) as discussed in preceeding e-mails * and if yes, how long the waiting time between deprecation of 10.0 and remov

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bad GPG key

2012-12-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> iF4EAREIAAYFAlDd8xUACgkQRtClrXBQc7VnPgD/dW6G8dEnSL5n8S+z/3k4PlTl > k3XmuGy+ACbwR7mxdg4A/32aKt/8qFeRlaQls4gTrIZ6yXNSbzoFFrdx0z1HAjtO > =WP4X > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2013-01-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo isn't a business. Even if you're not a business you should care about maintainable solutions. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
directory becomes EAPI=5. This means e.g. hardened, ulibc, prefix or bsd. Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
and after I've finished. Cheers, Andreas Am Samstag, 12. Januar 2013, 21:47:18 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > Hi everyone, > > since Council has approved the creation of a fresh set of EAPI=5 "13.0" > profiles, I would like to volunteer for creating them. The prop

[gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...

2013-01-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
the deprecation warning for "10.0/server" point to "13.0" (i.e. prompt users to upgrade from the 10.0 server profile to the 13.0 base profile). Opinions? [I'm not doing anything with this regard unless a clear consensus is found here on the list. Otherwise I'll copy the dirs

Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...

2013-01-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013, 00:36:18 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > Hi, > > several people have pointed out to me that the 10.0 -> 13.0 transition > would be a good moment to finally remove the (also in my opinion rather > useless) server profiles. > OK, I consider this con

How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
server profile should basically be the same as a minimal profile. And then, defining a minimal profile separate from the base profile does not make too much sense. Rather, carefully try to move all specific stuff out of the base profile. [ That said, CVS is such a pain, I'll not do anyt

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new "qt" category

2013-01-17 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
vel" "qt". My suggestion would be qt-base (analogous to kde-base, gnome-base, gnustep- base, lxde-base, and xfce-base) for everything that is part of the main Qt release. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
ur profile symlink manually and testing the new profile tree. In case of problems, please file a bug and assign it to me (or tell me if I'm around). If all goes well, we'll continue in a week. Cheers, Andreas Am Samstag, 12. Januar 2013, 21:47:18 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: >

[gentoo-dev] USE flags dri, cups, pppd

2013-01-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
: * move setting USE=dri and USE=cups from default/linux/make.defaults to targets/desktop/make.defaults * remove setting USE=pppd in default/linux/make.defaults, instead have it default to on in net-dialup/capi4k-utils (the only place where it is used) Opinions? Cheers, A -- Andreas K. Huettel

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013, 23:20:50 schrieben Sie: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:37:10 +0100 > > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > > FYI, the new 13.0 profiles are now all available in profiles.desc, for > > now all with status "dev" (i.e. repoman includes

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flags dri, cups, pppd

2013-01-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
the bikeshedding is a pain. I'll come up with a separate e-mail about this and some suggestions soon... (or do it yourself, but PLEASE start a separate thread!) -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
a message similar to the "open elections message" could be displayed. Obviously the implementation does not exist, but this is conceptually simple enough so it could be implemented within reasonable time. Opinions? (Yes / No / More discussion needed :D ) -- Andreas K. Huette

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > *the thing with USE flags is a big change. You're kidding, right? If we seriously start doing that, we'll either get slapped with "dont bother us with that" by the council members, or nobody wants to run for council anymore. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
as a newer glibc than gentoo (metaphorically speaking). We will in the end need a compromise that both gets things done and involves everyone that actively wants to be involved. (And yes, that means reading your mail!) -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://w

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag dri (reverted)

2013-01-21 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
ate to IUSE="+dri" in the ebuilds over time but that is a separate issue.] I am sorry for any inconvenience this has caused. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
he bug only affects repoman, not emerge.] Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: games-arcade/xboing

2013-02-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
the font name for a debug output) 2) was unplayably fast (imagine what you get when you pass milliseconds to usleep...) So in this case the mask was quite adequate. 02 Feb 2013; Andreas K. Huettel -xboing-2.4- r1.ebuild, +xboing-2.4-r2.ebuild, +files/xboing-2.4-buffer.patch, +files/xboi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removals reply - please write adequate log messages!

2013-02-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
e]). I agree 100% that we should not accumulate cruft in the tree and that removals are necessary. Please however, *** write meaningful log or mask messages *** !!! "Old and uses IMake" is not really a reason for treecleaning. "Fortify crash on start and unuseable on fast machines

Re: [gentoo-dev] !!! ERROR !!!

2013-02-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
e versions: 1.00 {{+offensive}} Homepage:http://www.otherpeoplesproblem.org/ Description: Neat set of scripts making sure your cron messages are heard. By everyone. huettel@pinacolada ~ $ -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
before we can remove the 10.0 trees. Maintainers of profiles outside default/linux (e.g. hardened and prefix), please take care of the migration to EAPI=5 on your own. Everyone else, have fun! :) Am Samstag, 12. Januar 2013, 21:47:18 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > Hi everyone, > > sinc

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
which profile to pick, which would be more complicated in a news item). Then again, that's a matter of personal preference, too. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

News item (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations)

2013-02-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
o the corresponding parent profile. This may change the default value of some use-flags. The specific setting in "server" was USE="-perl -python snmp truetype xml" You may want to check the setting of these flags after switching profile, but otherwise nothing cha

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:59:57 schrieb Patrick Nagel: > > Actually, if you could add a note that before switching to the new profile, > you should update portage if it's old, that would be even more > user-friendly: > Already done, see separate mail... -- Andre

Re: News item (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations)

2013-02-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 16:02:55 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:15:43 schrieb Markos Chandras:> > > > I suspect most people are interested in understanding what changed > > (since deprecation means that the new thing is better than the o

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2013, 00:34:19 schrieb Michał Górny: > > > > actually *do* to one's system? > > Out of curiosity, does portage suggest switching to the new profiles > even if it doesn't support its EAPI? Unfortunately, it seems yes. (Feature request?)

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