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Using stage1 assumes that you know what you are doing.
That's not a problem for me. So excuse me that i wanted
gentoo-installation to be more simple.
It is quite simple. The documentation is quite extensive on installing
from a stage3 tarball. How much simpler can you get? ;]
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On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 17:50 -0600, MIkey wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
You're reading it wrong. The bootstrap USE flag is set during
bootstrap, not the build USE flag. This means libstdc++-v3 (or gcc 3.3)
is required at the bootstrap level. The reason that libstdc++-v3
My mistake
of packages. We are definitely agreeable
to getting some help with this, as we don't want to be the cause of
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AFAIK, cryptsetup should be pulled in favor of cryptsetup-luks. I think
everything uses luks now rather then cryptsetup.
We're still using cryptsetup on the InstallCD/LiveCD. Should we switch?
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On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 07:49 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 03:40 +, Mark Stewart wrote:
Please contact me if you are interested.
I am interested in hearing more.
Stupid Reply-To munging...
Anyway, I'll let you guys know if there's anything actually worth
hearing
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 18:11 -0500, Olivier Crete wrote:
On Fri, 2006-06-01 at 09:39 -0800, Brian Harring wrote:
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 10:05:49AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 09:00 +, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
On 06/01/06, Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
, it will not use the package and will compile
from source. We use this every day in Release Engineering with
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I don't disagree with you entirely, but there's nothing stopping us from
*also* producing a Gentoo Enterprise Linux distribution.
Like I said, I'll post my proposal, modified to fit the times, of
course, as soon as I get a chance (it'll take a while to write back up).
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On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 09:27 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 02:36 -0700, Duncan wrote:
OTOH, it's entirely possible a Gentoo /based/ enterprise distribution may
emerge at some point. IMO, however, there's enough conflict with what
makes Gentoo
there can't be a frozen tree within the
context of Gentoo or as a separate project, of course.
Exactly. I'm finishing up my proofreading and spell-checking and should
be sending out my little idea within the hour.
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On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 19:57 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:58:57AM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:17:06PM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
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Gentoo is not a distribution of Linux. Gentoo is not anything more than
a loosely bound group
they want.
I'm sorry, but screw that.
You guys are more than welcome to go apply at Red Hat or Novell. Hey, I
hear SCO is still distributing Linux, too. They'll gladly give you the
mission statements and direction that you so desire.
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that might not
be the overall direction where we are heading?
Dude, pass the pipe. I want some of what you're smoking.
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On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 14:22 +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 07:51:39AM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
wrote:
This is what I don't get. So what if Gentoo is an amoeba? Does it
really matter? Would you rather that we dropped Gentoo/ALT, Hardened,
Embedded
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 15:51 +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 08:07:14AM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
wrote:
Sounds like you'd rather take Gentoo back a few years to the days before
Hardened/Embedded/Alt. I guess we really should just be Gentoo Linux
and ignore
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 09:42 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Really, I don't have any vision for Gentoo and I like it that way.
Amazing words to come from Gentoo's release manager. We might as well
call our releases 'maintenance updates' then if thats the case.
Why
on this and forgot to send it out.
I was planning on posting it also on the Release Engineering page, but
need to turn it into GuideXML first.
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to in our Gentoo blog?
I dare you to say something about how Genesi sucks and your Pegasos is a
piece of junk... :P
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of simply RSYNC_EXCLUDEing the
ChangeLog by default would be a much better solution.
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wouldn't have a problem with this, and it would still
be benificial. The only question left to be answered is how much space
would actually be saved to make this extra load on CVS worth it.
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teeth to get things
done in a timely manner. We also need enforcement of some sort to
ensure projects are active and reporting information on their status.
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fixed so we can have a stable version of 1.11.14 in the tree.
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in asking how to use the application while we're busy
trying to get a release out the door. If you want catalyst help or just
to discuss catalyst, please join the gentoo-catalyst mailing list.
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you can get your hands on from a bootstrap. Make sure the
same works from a 2005.1 (or 2005.1-r1) stage3 to build a stage1
tarball. Those two places are where we hit the majority of our bugs
during a release.
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we are removing the problem by default, educating
users, and still not removing any data or options for our users and
developers.
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for longer USE
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both RDEPEND on the other? This works perfectly fine for many
packages in the tree. A circular dependency isn't a bad thing if
they're both in RDEPEND, it is when they're both in DEPEND that causes
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On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 13:13 +, Roy Marples wrote:
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 12:49, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
(1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 14:26 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:49:37AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
(1.11.14) isnt getting much air time
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 14:45 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:30:56AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 13:13 +, Roy Marples wrote:
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 12:49, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger
, it is not fixed yet. Ryan is aware of the issue, but it was
not fixed in the latest version. There was an error on my part that
made me think it was fixed.
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that back again. This is resolved on amd64, but not on x86.
There's 2 binaries. This also explains why I didn't see the error and
closed the bug, I'm on amd64, whereas the bug reporter is on x86.
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care of it, so if someone uses it, it would be good if it stepped
up...
Umm...
wolf31o2-work !meta DirectFB
jeeves wolf31o2-work: Package: dev-libs/DirectFB Herd: games
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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for making a change that
doesn't hurt anything, I don't want anyone on my team to make the same
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on 2005.0
and 2005.1 profiles running gcc 3.4, so it means causing a much more
disruptive upgrade for all ~x86 users, or anyone who has merged gcc 3.4
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On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 07:01 +0100, Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
On Monday 28 November 2005 22:37, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 21:53 +0100, Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
Hi!
If nobody objects I will add DVB_CARDS to USE_EXAPAND on next saturday
(2005/12/03
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 09:22 -0500, Michael Cummings wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Here's the deal. We have a new user that installs Gentoo. After
installing Gentoo, he tries to emerge nagios and it dies on building
apache over a bug that has been known for some time and still isn't
with the 2005.0, 2005.1, or 2005.1-r1 stages, while mine does.
tell users to stop using stage[12], you're already going that route :p
That still will not fix the issue.
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. They barely support 3.4, but having some support from upstream
is better than none. This means 3.3 will be relegated to a legacy
version and likely won't be updated except for security bugs.
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apparently solves a problem but in fact
does not solve anything, the only solution is to recompile everything c++
related on the system.
Except the binary apps that you don't have the source to be able to
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that are almost
compatible, as opposed to the profiles that we have done in the past
where we were going from things like gcc2 to gcc3, that were not very
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On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 15:03 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 09:50:34AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 09:51 +0100, Gregorio Guidi wrote:
Every user _must_ be instructed to run
'revdep-rebuild --soname libstdc++.so.5',
if a system contains
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 10:42 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 15:03 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 09:50:34AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 09:51 +0100, Gregorio Guidi wrote:
Every user _must_ be instructed to run
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 18:37 +0100, Andreas Proschofsky wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 16:04 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:52:11AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
broken /usr/lib32/openoffice/program/gconfbe1.uno.so (requires
libORBit-2.so.0 libgconf-2.so.4
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 23:19 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 09:16 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
I'd like to add the apache2 USE flag to 2006.0's profile. This would
not resolve bug #95140, but would keep users from hitting it by default.
With apache being
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 16:34 -0800, Michael Stewart (vericgar) wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
I'd like to add the apache2 USE flag to 2006.0's profile. This would
not resolve bug #95140, but would keep users from hitting it by default.
With apache being such a popular package, having
it would need to
be use.mask'd on any 2.4 profiles. The real issue here is what happens
to anyone that uses both 2.4 and 2.6 from the same profile?
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What will the ebuild do if DVB_CARDS is not set?
Please make it download/install them all.
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On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 19:34 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 08:54:41AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 03:44 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:15:52PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
OK. I've been looking at some
, which is current in
pre-release testing and is masked. Fell free to unmask it and play with
it, as it works fine. We are just wanting to iron out the last few bugs
before releasing it, so feel free to bang away on it and report any
problems that you find.
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On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 03:44 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:15:52PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
OK. I've been looking at some of these issues we've been having, and
I've been thinking of moving enewuser, egetent, and enewgroup to their
own eclass
, that's just a guess, see the 2.1 fiasko).
I think I would rather see the multi-hash support now, rather than
later, as it seems to be something our users are asking about and it
seems like all the work is really there for an implementation sooner
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/etc/make.profile to /usr/portage/profiles/obsolete/$arch, then
they would need to emerge --oneshot sandbox portage. After that, they
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objections by November 30th, I'll make the change. This will *not*
be retroactive to any previous release profiles.
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that will not only give information on
the lower stages, but also how to make a stage1 install from a stage3
tarball. It will likely also cover things like Hardened, provided they
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not to do so, I think I'll
probably do it after the Thanksgiving holiday.
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On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 19:30 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
On Wednesday 23 November 2005 19:15, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
I'd be willing to make all the changes to the tree to facilitate this,
and unless someone has a really good reason not to do so, I think I'll
probably do it after
On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 12:52 -0600, Brian Harring wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:15:52PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
OK. I've been looking at some of these issues we've been having, and
I've been thinking of moving enewuser, egetent, and enewgroup to their
own eclass
On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 11:40 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
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| These packages do not need shadow (though the system might, but that's
| outside my scope) once they are installed, only to install. However
culture!
What the hell does this have to do with Gentoo development?
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was dissapointed to see that
the stage 1 had been removed from gentoo 2005. Infact, even the handbook
makes no refference of it. This takes Gentoo another step closer to other
distros like Ubuntu.
A dissapointed user,
Varun Dhussa
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incompatibility. It is impossible to install something that requires a
configured kernel before you have a configured kernel.
Now, on the topic of the tarballs.
Give me one example of something that you can do with a stage1 or stage2
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On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 16:26 +0100, Marc Hildebrand wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
[..]
Now, on the topic of the tarballs.
Give me one example of something that you can do with a stage1 or stage2
tarball that you cannot with a stage3 tarball.
Answer: Download it in less than 10
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 16:26 +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 10:10:14AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Personally, I would like to see stage1 and stage2 go away completely.
They serve no real purpose anymore after the changes we have made to the
stages to include
to
stay. stage2 has always been a bonus stage more or less added into the
mix cuz it's a byproduct of stage building (pre catalyst days).
Removing the stage1 and stage2 instructions from the Handbook has
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I did.
I got exactly *0* responses.
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On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 17:15 +0100, Wernfried Haas wrote:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 10:48:06AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Give me one example of something that you can do with a stage1 or stage2
tarball that you cannot with a stage3 tarball.
Answer: Download it in less than 10
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 11:19 -0500, Thomas Kirchner wrote:
* On Nov 22 10:15, Chris Gianelloni (gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
It isn't pretty much anymore. It *is* exactly the same.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're going to attempt to get the same
result as a stage1
into it's own stage1.xml doc.
I've already agreed that I have no problem with an additional document
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On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 11:15 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 09:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
As I am now not only the Release Engineering lead, but also the x86
Release Coordinator, I am fielding nearly 100% of these issues.
I DO NOT HAVE
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 23:10 +0530, Abhay Kedia wrote:
On Tuesday 22 Nov 2005 10:09 pm, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
*sigh*
Another Gentoo is about choice argument. Can I ask you something?
Where does it say that Gentoo is about choice? I see lots of places
that say that Gentoo allows you
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 12:03 -0600, Grant Goodyear wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Tue Nov 22 2005, 09:15:27AM CST]
Well, if we could educate the users that stage2 tarballs are totally
pointless, and that running bootstrap.sh followed by emerge -e system
from a stage3 is pretty much
the
facts, or trolling/flaming.
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On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 21:16 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
22.11.2005, 20:57:15, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
The idea was to move out the stage1/stage2 docs to somewhere else. Then
create some sort of Advanced Installation Topics guide or something, to
list out the replacement procedures
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On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 22:36 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
22.11.2005, 21:58:50, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
That FAQ section has nothing in common with the original stage1 docs.
Sorry,
installing stage3 to remove all the use flags cruft subsequently, bootstrap
and re-emerge the system
though. Perhaps you guys forget what a meta-distribution
is and the infinite possibilities that it presents to the user.
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setting too? That'd be a reasonable thing to add to the
GLEP I think.
It really sounds like you are wanting to make this proposal way too
complex, but I'll wait for the actual GLEP text before making any more
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On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 03:30 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:54:01 -0500
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 20:26 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
On Tuesday 15 November 2005 20:19, Marius Mauch wrote:
From my POV those vars should
these different
files makes it harder to add config changes, not by much but noticably,
so personally I'd like to get rid of them, but if there is a good
reason for them to stay I can live with that.
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On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 20:01 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 02:52:28PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 20:19 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
Was just about to finally commit the elog related config stuff into
make.conf just to notice (again
On Sun, 2005-11-13 at 22:34 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 10:26 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
If users are interested in non-critical information, there's already a
mechanism in place for them to get such things. They can join the
mailing lists. Do we not already
have been under the impression that you guys preferred
to keep this out of portage as much as possible. I think an API built
into portage *would* be the best method for this.
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On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 00:57 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 18:22 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
It seems to be your own quest to have the news *only*
delivered by portage.
I thought I'd been very clear in the email that you've replied to that I
support making
?) that basically has the capability to read, skip,
or delete these news items.
I think this would be pretty simple to get done and covers the problem
of messages being read or unread. Of course, this is all just an idea,
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*cough*
Pot. This is kettle.
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about gentoo/news in CVS?
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what is sitting in front of them, plainly on the screen.
Thank you for proving my point.
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