Re: [gentoo-dev] support for i386

2006-10-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
/releng/kconfig/2006.1/x86 The installcd has actually been i486 since 2004.3 was released. Actually, that was probably accidental and likely my fault, but it's been i486 since then (except for a short time as i586, which caused problems for some i586-class machines... go figure). -- Chris Gianelloni

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
an OS. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] New Trustees - My Resignation

2006-10-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
to start building a fleet. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: games-fps/quake3-tremulous

2006-10-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
it in the oven for a few hours. Speak now, or forever hold your peace. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites: quake3-osp

2006-10-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
In my updating of all of the quake3 mods, I realized that quake3-osp was the predecessor to quake3-cpma. Well, quake3-cpma has all of the features of quake3-osp, so I see no point in keeping both. If nobody steps up with a good reason, it's getting the axe on November 23rd. -- Chris Gianelloni

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
to publish a new GLEP to superceed it, rather than revise the existing GLEP?) For something like this, I think that merely noting that it was changed via an amendment from the Council should be sufficient. I do agree that changing it inline without such a note would be bad. -- Chris Gianelloni

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
the leaders of Gentoo that so many seem to want, yet also have to balance not overstepping the bounds some people think we need. We honestly do need everyone's opinions on these things, so thank you for posing yours. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 13:17 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: On 10/25/06, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'd like to know what you would propose we do if we were to follow something like this. Would we post something like GLEP 39a, as an amendment to GLEP 39, or would we have

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
for the GWN. There's nothing automatic about it. Someone else already suggested this to us, but I explained to him that unless someone had some way to automate it that it simply wasn't feasible to do by hand. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
packages) than try to keep track of what everyone else is doing. The GWN takes a significant amount of time as it is to put together. Any process that isn't automated is pretty much out of the question due to time constraints. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to move packages?

2006-10-26 Thread Chris Gianelloni
? Thank you, Peter. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: license group file format

2006-10-26 Thread Chris Gianelloni
://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#NonFreeDocumentationLicenses [7] http://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/ -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: quake3-osp

2006-10-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 17:03 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: In my updating of all of the quake3 mods, I realized that quake3-osp was the predecessor to quake3-cpma. Well, quake3-cpma has all of the features of quake3-osp, so I see no point in keeping both. If nobody steps up with a good

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Dreaded herd tag

2006-10-30 Thread Chris Gianelloni
. Not being grouped with other packages doesn't mean it is unmaintained. So this bears the question, what is the proper solution? Make herd optional? Force the maintainer's email into herd for packages without a herd? -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Dreaded herd tag

2006-10-30 Thread Chris Gianelloni
the maintainer tag if herd is no-herd. Then, we only allow valid devs, and maintainer-needed in maintainer. That should resolve the problem. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Econf

2006-10-30 Thread Chris Gianelloni
. Set S globally (not in src_unpack). -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Only you can prevent broken portage trees

2006-10-31 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 17:02 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: 3) ?? Get your hands on some of the minority arch hardware and help out? Remember that some of the teams in question are sometimes only one or two people. In this case, a single developer does make a dramatic difference. -- Chris

Re: [gentoo-dev] Only you can prevent broken portage trees

2006-10-31 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 20:06 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Tuesday 31 October 2006 19:51, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Remember that some of the teams in question are sometimes only one or two people. Like x86? :P With Opfer on the team, I think we're at 5 active. -- Chris

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
. Using the stage4 catalyst target will save you a good amount of time, since it doesn't go through the unmerge/rsync/emerge cycle on each package. Just FYI. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
filing a bug like all other infra requests? -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
the people responsible for this, you'd rather go over their heads and try to bring this up to the council, so we can override their decisions? Not bloody likely. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Patent threat?

2006-11-07 Thread Chris Gianelloni
jobs that allow them to work on Gentoo on the job, the Foundation pays nobody. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo list server dropping mail

2006-11-07 Thread Chris Gianelloni
of the failed message for him. Thanks, -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME 1.x and GNOME 1.x dependent package masking

2006-11-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
probably blog before the fact as well). Thanks, GWN, #gentoo, etcwhere is our pr team? Waiting for someone to request something of them. The PR team is currently passive. If you don't ask, we won't do it. I've put this in the GWN for this week, which should be going out $soon. -- Chris

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites: games-fps/ut2004-domain2049

2006-11-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
It's broken. There's a supposed fix, but many people say the fix doesn't work for them. Upstream has been gone forever. Anyway, I'm removing it December 10th unless someone else wants to fix the problems with it *and* port it to the games-mods eclass. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-22 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 01:10 +0100, Marien Zwart wrote: On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 04:37:39PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Well, we specifically didn't allow a * setting because of this. Ah, I missed that. Thanks. Perhaps we should make it simple and specify that no interactive license

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-22 Thread Chris Gianelloni
display the license for agreement if the package is actually merged. Nope. The goal is for check_license to go away. Please read bug #152593 to see the discussion that's been going on with this. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-22 Thread Chris Gianelloni
, ACCEPT_LICENSE, just like how ACCEPT_KEYWORDS means you accept that KEYWORD. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-22 Thread Chris Gianelloni
when the original posting from Marius was done, but it might not have been. Anyway, I'm glad that I've now pointed people there so they can see the discussion that took place to get us to where we are now. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
ignore all licensing, which matches what is currently in the tree. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
is a hack ? No, the only proposed solution is one that *we* don't provide. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
make them. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
is created entirely by scripts and is tested *before* it's released on the public. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-29 Thread Chris Gianelloni
. If you want something we aren't providing, use an overlay. Chris Gianelloni wrote: No version changes on any packages, except those which are necessary due to a security violation, or a vulnerable package's dependencies. I could imagine a situation where a dependant package (ie one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-29 Thread Chris Gianelloni
we release, though. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-29 Thread Chris Gianelloni
Engineering-driven project is welcome to completely ignore us, as we will them. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-29 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 16:01 +, Stuart Herbert wrote: On 11/29/06, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As of this release, I kept a copy of all of the distfiles for the entire release, and can make a DVD of it, on request. This fulfills our requirements with the GPL. What

Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaneres

2006-11-30 Thread Chris Gianelloni
sometime. Please RSVP via the [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias if that works for you. Just curious, but why? -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-sources-2.4 needs a maintainer

2006-11-30 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 18:30 -0500, Daniel Drake wrote: Please mention this in the next GWN. Will do. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Versioning the tree

2006-12-01 Thread Chris Gianelloni
get more than 10 or so GLSA a week. Even doing everything by hand, this would be a very minimal workload to keep updated. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Versioning the tree

2006-12-01 Thread Chris Gianelloni
is that if it deserves a GLSA, then it deserves and update, but I don't know the exact criteria the security team uses to decide if something warrants a GLSA or not. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev coldplugging and /etc/init.d/modules

2006-12-13 Thread Chris Gianelloni
of the coldplug init script? This would be very useful for our LiveCD builds, since we've lost the ability to do nohotplug on the command line to disable cold plugging. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev coldplugging and /etc/init.d/modules

2006-12-13 Thread Chris Gianelloni
to boot. With a coldplug that cannot be disabled arbitrarily, we cannot do this. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-10 23:59 UTC

2006-12-15 Thread Chris Gianelloni
around 01h00 every Monday morning, in time for each week's GWN.) Exactly how does it work? Does it just look for new ChangeLog files? -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23:59 UTC

2006-12-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
are correct, so what is the attachment? -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23:59 UTC

2006-12-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 08:47 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 23:20 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23h59 UTC. So what is right, the attachment or the list

[gentoo-dev] New packages, but why?

2006-12-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
/pcsc-ase-iiie-drv which handles both the USB and Serial versions of this hardware. Is there something else I am missing? -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23:59 UTC

2006-12-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
/amap/ti ti11 Dec 06/ti timail link=[EMAIL PROTECTED]Donnie Berkholz/mail/ti /tr /table table tr thPackage:/th thRemoval date:/th thContact:/th /tr tr tigames-fps/ut2004-domain2049/ti ti12 Dec 06/ti timail link=[EMAIL PROTECTED]Chris Gianelloni/mail/ti /tr /table -- Chris

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23:59 UTC

2006-12-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
or DESCRIPTION is that they are version specific and there is no way to choose which version to pick in the case where more than one version was added at the same time. As a compromise, how about having the package names link to their packages.gentoo.org page? -- Chris Gianelloni Release

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200

2006-12-22 Thread Chris Gianelloni
be a bad idea to remove them just yet. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Marking GPL-incompatible linkage?

2006-12-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
solution that we have and it'll match up with our other packages. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] Gentle reminder about ChangeLog entries on profiles

2007-01-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
at profiles/default-linux/amd64/ChangeLog. You can use echangelog, which works perfectly fine. Being unable to easily track changes in profiles makes Release Engineering (and arch teams) cry, so please add a ChangeLog entry, or we'll sick Jeff and the goats on you. Thanks, -- Chris Gianelloni

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentle reminder about ChangeLog entries on profiles

2007-01-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 12:20 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 08:27:50AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Most of the profiles under default-linux have a ChangeLog at the architecture level. If you make *any* changes to a profile, you should be putting your changes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-01-07 23:59 UTC

2007-01-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
* to have a single script that worked for the whole thing. Thanks, -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentle reminder about ChangeLog entries on profiles

2007-01-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 17:40 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 12:20 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Just wondering, any objections if we add ChangeLogs at the rest of the levels in profiles? Would esp. be useful for some of the more global changes. Not really

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites for games-action/d1x

2007-01-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
# Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] (09 Jan 2007) # This has been dead upstream for close to eternity and is broken with GCC 4.x. # Use games-action/d1x-rebirth instead. This will be removed on (09 Feb 2007). games-action/d1x -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentle reminder about ChangeLog entries on profiles

2007-01-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
{,.local}.desc, updates/, desc/ would benefit from ChangeLogs, for people that have them from rsync, instead of CVS. Well, I've added a ChangeLog to profiles... If there's any objections from anyone, they can feel free to remove it, or something. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add LCD_DEVICES to USE_EXPAND

2007-01-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
, they *may* be keyworded on any arch. It isn't like the hardware/software *can't* run on those arches. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
nasty application that doesn't work with sandbox, who are you (or anyone, for that matter) to tell me that I cannot? Hell, we could even *not* have sandbox/userpriv in the default ACCEPT_RESTRICT, since they have possible security implications. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 19:06 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: Chris Gianelloni napsal(a): Uhh... you missed RESTRICT=userpriv and the upcoming RESTRICT=unattended when calling for no ACCEPT_RESTRICT... Don't see how's userpriv related here; also the original idea was to stick FEATURES=unattended

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
and do it our way, no matter what. There's no mechanism for the user to say Always do what I say. I'd rather not install the package if it doesn't work with $FEATURE. which could be solved with ACCEPT_RESTRICT. It gives the power back to the user, not the ebuild writer. -- Chris Gianelloni

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-sources-2.4 needs a maintainer (a real one)

2007-01-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 16:47 -0500, Daniel Drake wrote: Please mention this in the next GWN. I don't always read every post of every thread. In the future, send such requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be sure I'll actually see it before making up the GWN. Thanks, -- Chris Gianelloni Release

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
. The only thing I can possibly gather from this is you're intentionally being fucking dense, so it's not worth my time. How is it that you can ignore half an email and only respond to something out of context and then still fuck *that* up? -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
allows the user to not list userpriv (or -userpriv if userpriv is on by default) and the ebuild WILL NOT RUN if it requires userpriv be disabled. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
we can accomplish to test out the idea of Council-driven projects. Thanks in advance! -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

RE: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
] [RFC] Ideas for projects... I like the idea. Something really useful I could think of is *drums* the implementation of GLEP 42. -- Kind Regards, Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64 Developer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites: app-admin/livecd-ng

2007-01-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
Well, we've replaced this with catalyst, there's been no movement on it for 4 years now, upstream has abandoned it, and Release Engineering wants no part in it. It's been maintainer-needed for who knows how long. If someone doesn't step up in 30 days, it's getting the axe. -- Chris Gianelloni

[gentoo-dev] New profiles/ChangeLog

2007-01-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
There's a ChangeLog file in profiles/ChangeLog now. Please use it when making changes to things in profiles/*... Thanks, -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Abusing RESTRICT={no,}userpriv (was [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT)

2007-01-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
appreciated games-board/ggz-txt-client games-board/ggz-sdl-games games-board/ggz-gtk-games games-board/ggz-kde-games games-board/gnuchess-book games-board/ggz-kde-client games-board/ggz-gtk-client games-util/emilia-pinedit games-fps/quakeforge games-rpg/wastesedge No clue. -- Chris Gianelloni

[gentoo-dev] Re: profile changelogs

2007-01-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
this is probably the easiest for the time being. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Abusing RESTRICT={no,}userpriv (was [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT)

2007-01-14 Thread Chris Gianelloni
group seems overall to be a better solution than requiring root privileges to build. Sure, and it means getting every single user that merges games to change their systems. It's possible, but something that would take a very long time to accomplish. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add midi useflag to base profile defaults

2007-01-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
be fine. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] New network config for baselayout-ng

2007-02-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
it can simply fork the project, or even create a new project to replace the functionality provided by this package. It happens all the time. I seem to remember it happening with this package manager we all are familiar with... -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86

Re: [gentoo-dev] New network config for baselayout-ng

2007-02-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
baselayout yourself. Anything else is just you trying to control what Roy does with his completely volunteer time, which is about as likely as me flying a cheese grater to the moon. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion

2007-02-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
static. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] New network config for baselayout-ng

2007-02-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 02:10 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 08 February 2007, Chris Gianelloni wrote: He's not screwing up anything. He's making changes he wishes as the author and maintainer of the package. If someone doesn't like it, they can fork it and maintain their own

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt raidtools and move people to mdadm

2007-02-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
with mdadm on Red Hat, and Anaconda/Kickstart does all the heavy lifting for me, so I've not used it much. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt raidtools and move people to mdadm

2007-02-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 08:58 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 12 February 2007, Chris Gianelloni wrote: If we're going to do this, should we do it before the 2007.0 snapshot, so people don't have raidtools disappear out from under them on their newly-installed system? it's already

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] mask and force various profile specific USE flags

2007-02-19 Thread Chris Gianelloni
to their profiles shoot me a .diff for it? I'd like to include this in the release snapshot so it's already done on new installs. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: reduce conflicts, separate keywording from ebuilds

2007-02-19 Thread Chris Gianelloni
that work on *multiple* architectures. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: EAPI spec (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))

2007-02-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
the *point* of this spec to try to bring everyone on the same page? -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))

2007-02-22 Thread Chris Gianelloni
it. The contents itself I leave to more capable hands. I'll be reviewing it when it is released, but that's only just to assist in the process. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))

2007-02-22 Thread Chris Gianelloni
it. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: EAPI spec (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))

2007-02-22 Thread Chris Gianelloni
that manpower should not be the limiting factor here in getting this done when there are numerous people who are familiar enough with portage and want to to help. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))

2007-02-22 Thread Chris Gianelloni
the stages aren't built against these, they can have more stuff added to them without as harsh consequences... LiveCD-based installs use the desktop profile for networkless installs Essentially, as you go to the right down the stack, things get more specific and adds more USE flags. -- Chris

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] custom-cflags global USE

2007-02-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
instead, then I'd say go for it. Patches are always a better solution than workarounds. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] mask and force various profile specific USE flags

2007-02-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
profile group. Since I don't have to make any changes to the current profiles, it can live side-by-side in the tree with no adverse consequences, other than people having make certain commits in two places until we phase out the old profiles. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-02-25 23h59 UTC

2007-02-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 18:09 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Something is wrong with this list (there are some other removals I know took place that do not seem to be listed). Please ignore while I trace why. DAMN YOU!!! Heh... just kidding. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What do you think about removing gtk-1.2 theme engines from tree?

2007-02-26 Thread Chris Gianelloni
and use it as they see fit. There's not much reason to track them in the package manager. That being said, I'm not opposed to the themes staying in the tree, either. I'm just trying to find out people's motivations for either keeping them/removing them. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-02 Thread Chris Gianelloni
can't control PMS but we also don't have to sit around and do nothing to reach the Council's goal of an approved specification for EAPI=0, a goal which I believe some people lost sight of some time ago. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games

Re: [gentoo-dev] more up to date minimal install cd

2007-03-02 Thread Chris Gianelloni
taking off is well beyond our means at this time. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-05 Thread Chris Gianelloni
by the previous trustees. The current trustees are working on a better solution to this, but are currently focused more on reincorporation in a friendlier state for our project. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-05 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 16:56 +, Stephen Bennett wrote: On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:20:48 -0500 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The EAPI=0 document was supposed to be a QA project. What it is now, I have no idea. A QA subproject which has not yet released a public draft. Now

Re: [gentoo-dev] more up to date minimal install cd

2007-03-05 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 17:49 +0100, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: I have no plans on releasing *any* kind of nightly *anything* so long as Release Engineering still gets minimal testing from only a *tiny* subset

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: Various packages, see inside

2007-03-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
to produce the Last Rites (which is done by hand). Perhaps when I get more help and more time, we can switch, but for now, I'm sticking with chronological order. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee

Re: [gentoo-dev] comments on how flamewars are handled elsewhere

2007-03-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
, it still appears under the old thread. When starting a new thread, use a new mail, not a reply mail. That's all he meant. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing D into the tree

2007-03-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 15:32 +0530, Anant Narayanan wrote: redistribution which means we would need RESTRICT=nomirror. RESTRICT=mirror please... nomirror is deprecated and will go away at some point in the future. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86

Re: [gentoo-dev] Client-serve flags (again ;) (was Re: New eclass: gkrellm-plugin)

2007-03-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
should really be building both client and server for *all* packages. The *only* reason one should not be doing this is if they're following the definition of minimal, or it is not possible to build both the client and the server at the same time. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Client-server flags (again ;) (was Re: New eclass: gkrellm-plugin)

2007-03-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
. If we did decide on a USE=server flag, then it should also likely have USE=dedicated merged with it so there's only one flag for enabling server builds. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo

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