Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GTK USE flag situation (gtk, gtk2, gtk3; relevant to bug #420493)

2014-02-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ere we were with gtk1 vs gtk2 back then. http://marc.info/?l=gentoo-dev&m=111212920310822&w=2 -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgpiDAYuRO_lp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add support for rsync patches

2014-02-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
want from gentoo-dev@? You need someone to file > the bug for ya? This is not the level of friendliness that is going to welcome potential new contributors into our community. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> An

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
uild without a feature is important enough to merit a USE flag. This is essentially rethinking the same decision and adding complexity to it. I think having this as an additional feature in the core PM would be confusing to users. It would probably be a better fit in gentoolkit o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default USE changes for fortran and mudflap?

2014-01-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
other optional languages and disabled by default, but I'd like to know > if there are other opinions. It's essentially only used by the small minority of people installing sci-* packages so I'd be fine with that. Reasonable defaults FTW. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Counc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [OT] pkgcore bikeshed

2014-01-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
nd is also of extreme importance if you want people actually using it. Speed is absolutely a usability feature but it's not the only one that matters. Maintaining EAPI parity is table stakes. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <

Re: [gentoo-dev] Doing and then undoing slotmoves

2013-12-25 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 12:31 Mon 23 Dec , Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 20:07:21 -0600 > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > Seems we should add repoman support to check profiles/. Spec mandates > > that are not implemented in any tool are unlikely to be adhered to. > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Doing and then undoing slotmoves

2013-12-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
e though. Is this allowed? > > The PMS does not allow it: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~ulm/pms/5/pms.html#x1-390004.4.4 Seems we should add repoman support to check profiles/. Spec mandates that are not implemented in any tool are unlikely to be adhered to. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkh

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: initramfs required on Linux systems with separate /usr

2013-09-26 Thread Donnie Berkholz
pport in 30 days (which can't be done directly in stable), then we test that in ~arch for the usual 30 days before stabilizing. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in libreoffice ebuild

2013-08-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
index.html "Otherwise a soft limit of 2 to 4 weeks depending on the severity of the bug is an acceptable time frame before you go ahead and fix it yourself." -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMo

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of security improvments (GLEPs 57-61)

2013-08-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ne - or someone else might just want to > read through some old threads and do the same. There's https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333531 -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ther words, this is the standard Gentoo disclaimer, so consider > yourself warned. Man, in terms of how to phrase things, this is way wrong. If you're comfortable with your stuff breaking really? No. If you want to help improve Gentoo. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: toolchain-r1.eclass

2013-08-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
April so I'd avoid those. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgpk8YyXSSTTY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: fortran-2.eclass - Support for bin package system without compiler

2013-07-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
sus "near future." I didn't catch it in your original email — have you run a scan to see how many ebuilds are affected? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgp6OhBSU0BAC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
etty much the whole ck- patchset (Con Kolivas), grsec, FreeS/WAN and OpenS/WAN, the bootsplash stuff, etc. > 2) we can carry some patches from upstreams trees that possibly aren't yet in > -next, or not yet accepted to mainline but do provide some benefit to a > smaller > group of our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
You are not forced to participate. It's all about choice. If > there are no objections and if the PR team gives an ack. I'd like to > add video hangouts under the PR project (I'll create a simple faq page > in wiki about VCs). Go ahead. Experiments are always welcome. -- Thank

Re: [gentoo-dev] new category: games-adventure/

2013-07-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
fewer than 18 packages. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgpOocMKQ8ulN.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts

2013-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ng Gentoo than to do outreach. That said, I've gotten over 10,000 views of an intro talk on Gentoo that's posted on YouTube despite its pretty bad audio quality, and nearly 2,000 views of a Gentoo talk targeted at developers, so there's clearly people looking for this stuff.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Establishing Gentoo patch policy to keep our patches consistent and clean

2013-04-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
[2] and a few tags > for reviewing patches [3] (those are probably not useful for us). This is the part that would be most useful to document more. Suggesting which tags would be valuable to include. Fixes, Reviewed-by, Signed-off-by, etc. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member /

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2013-01-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ear vision and audience for Gentoo would significantly increase our ability to get useful things done. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgpzBhWAtbiqb.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2013-01-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
about anything but frontend theming and content. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgpSKkhPZZeQ4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
me we can eliminate Gentoo-specific weirdness, we should. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgp3sbsAFBIVY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Wordiness

2013-01-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ce; consider the time of the 100s/1000s who read it. Your value and impact will increase exponentially. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgpR4IRW1xeQ_.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: open season on robbat2's packages

2012-11-26 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 04:22 Fri 23 Nov , Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:22:10PM -0600, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 11:11 Sun 18 Nov , Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > > Here's a list of every package where I'm a maintainer and there is no > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder: open season on robbat2's packages

2012-11-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
hoping somebody is taking this? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgplPH1rn4ntA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
in a nearly anarchic, ad hoc manner, where anyone can do pretty much whatever they want as an official Gentoo project. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgpFP4Q0Esq9W.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh Organizations - Gentoo Linux

2012-11-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
this through, I know the guy running it pretty well. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgpeD65iNmfgq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 to base profile

2012-05-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 16:27 Sun 13 May , Mike Gilbert wrote: > To make ebuilds utilizing python-distutils-ng.eclass usable I didn't read any farther because I couldn't stop laughing. What will the next version of this eclass be called, -ng-ng? -really-ng? =) -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz C

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping older versions around

2012-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
;ve kept the old {stable,~arch} version around for a reasonable amount of time (say 30 days), you should be safe pulling it. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgpSKypfDxmlZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Free Gentoo

2012-01-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ututo -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgpwhwggqOB6o.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] How help in arch testing work

2012-01-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
; > portage generates a NEEDED file in the vdb Awesome, never seen that before! -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com> Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/> pgp3cdeT1u02G.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: news item for sys-apps/systemd -> /usr migration

2012-01-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
estly, I'd get rid of it sooner -- > but almost four months seem to be a safe period considering that we > are still in 'testing' stage mostly. So other systemd-using distros have it in /usr? I'd follow their convention. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Coun

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item - MythTV

2011-12-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
sure. Seems to me that pointing to the website for plaintext docs like this is kinda defeating the point of these news items. It's certainly more news rather than a long-term useful document, because at some point the change will happen, and then things are just the way they are. -- Thanks, D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Six month major project on Gentoo

2011-12-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ble unless you were on an extremely high-speed, low-latency network, beyond what was typically accessible at the time outside of universities and LANs. Could be worth exploring again now that 25-100 mbps connections are becoming more common. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / S

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bleeding edge hardened-sources: move PaX markings from ELF to Extended Attributes

2011-12-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 05:16 Fri 02 Dec , Duncan wrote: > TL;DR: reiserfs (v3), for both caps and XT_PAX ?? A bit OT, but I find it incredibly ironic that perhaps the shortest email you've ever written contained a TL;DR segment. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] rewritten epatch

2011-11-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 18:45 Wed 23 Nov , Mike Frysinger wrote: > personally, i've never found .rej useful. It's nice if you use dev-util/wiggle. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgptppoeNYKdB.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] huse: new helper for low level eclass writers

2011-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 12:22 Thu 20 Oct , Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 20 October 2011 11:58:44 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 01:26 Thu 20 Oct , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Wednesday 19 October 2011 15:40:50 Brian Harring wrote: > > > > Name's a bit off thoug

Re: [gentoo-dev] huse: new helper for low level eclass writers

2011-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
iuse_use" ? or "use_iuse" ? > -mike use_in_iuse ? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpZNI8F46o3g.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH autotools-utils] Use elibtoolize from libtool.eclass to fix libtool magic.

2011-10-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 09:55 Mon 10 Oct , Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:08:43 -0500 > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 10:21 Sun 09 Oct , Michał Górny wrote: > > > We're calling it with '--patch-only' to avoid heavy changes to > > > ebuilds. This sh

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH autotools-utils] Use elibtoolize from libtool.eclass to fix libtool magic.

2011-10-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
kind of testing have you done? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpqkkgxxy6L7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
sure to have the correct version installed before proceeding. Blaming > that on qutecom is far-fetched IMO. There's like a million packages that use features in linux-headers, so it's not a isolated effect as with xorg-server. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / S

Re: [gentoo-dev] libtool.eclass update to allow @...@ replacements in patches

2011-09-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
e more aware of this. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpUKQ0FqMXpM.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 18:04 Thu 22 Sep , Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > I do, because I don't have time to deal with other people breaking > > my packages, whether they're in gentoo-x86, the science overlay, or > > my person

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 09:37 Wed 21 Sep , Alec Warner wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Not really, because when you update a bundled lib you actually make > > your whole app compile with it. People change the APIs of eclasses > > and then just let ev

Re: [gentoo-dev] git-2: a bunch of patches to review

2011-09-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
with that? > > > > As Scarabeus wrote 99% of the eclass it's probably not obvious to > everyone that Donnie is listed as its maintainer. And as Michał is making many of the changes recently because scarabeus got busy and the eclass works fine for me already, I figure it

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:20 Tue 20 Sep , Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:16:46PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > OK, so the implication of what you're saying is that everything in > > eutils.eclass, base.eclass, toolchain-funcs.eclass, > > flag-o-matic.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
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Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 04:22 Sun 18 Sep , Brian Harring wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:59:08PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 13:43 Fri 16 Sep , Brian Harring wrote: > > > What I said from the getgo and you're missing is that pushing EAPI > > > implementation int

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
keep everything in lockstep because who knows what other people will do with their repos. Maybe people would want to distribute their own copies of forked dependent repositories too, I haven't thought much about it. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgptazUS3EHSs.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
r supporting package managers have been > available in stable. So in your opinion, it would be fine to bump profiles/eapi to EAPI=4 now? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpT74nMsKtpS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH autotools-utils 1/9] Fix handling whitespace in filenames when looking for .la files.

2011-09-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
nding > on huge chunk, or not sending patches at all. +1, except parts of them were dependent. =) Maybe use some `git rebase --interactive` next time.. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgp3Hnb8ts55I.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding a tiny install-mask directory list to gx86

2011-09-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-mask names' (similar to USE flag names) > to lists of directories and possibly descriptions. Do something like layman or repoman where it auto-fetches periodically. Layman has the advantage of also supporting add-on files in addition to the main one. I don't want this in my repo. -- T

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
st people probably do a lot more integer calculations unless they're science geeks like me, plus it should have lower memory use, so my understanding is that it probably makes sense to switch to x32 no matter what you're using now (x86 or amd64). Mike, would you agree? -- Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
here it > overrides (which is where the notion of repo stacking comes into > play). I think I explained above, but let me know if that's not the case. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpQi7rzibDrE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:29 Wed 14 Sep , Brian Harring wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 02:16:41PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 19:14 Tue 13 Sep , Brian Harring wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:02:28PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > > On 17:56 Tue 13

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 06:34 Wed 14 Sep , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:02:28 -0500 > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 17:56 Tue 13 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > useful enough for EAPI ? or should i just stick it into > > > eutils.eclass ? OR BOTH !? &

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 19:14 Tue 13 Sep , Brian Harring wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:02:28PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 17:56 Tue 13 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > useful enough for EAPI ? or should i just stick it into eutils.eclass > > > ? OR BOTH !? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:56 Tue 13 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote: > useful enough for EAPI ? or should i just stick it into eutils.eclass > ? OR BOTH !? I prefer to avoid EAPI whenever possible, as it just makes things slower and more complex. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] obs eclasses

2011-09-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:58 Tue 13 Sep , Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 09/13/11 16:44, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > It's because people want to pretend that it's possible for > > incredibly outdated systems (those with bash-3 only) to be updated. > > Actually it's worse - PMS e

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] obs eclasses

2011-09-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
gt; # information it will all neede variables and takes care of installation. Lots of typos here. > HOMEPAGE="http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OSC"; > LICENSE="GPL-2" > SLOT="0" > IUSE="" > RDEPEND+="dev-util/osc" You probably want

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] obs eclasses

2011-09-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
#x27;s possible for incredibly outdated systems (those with bash-3 only) to be updated. We're stuck in this limbo because "we" have apparently decided that just waiting a year, as we used to do, isn't good enough anymore; but at the same time, we don't have a better mechan

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Introduce has_iuse() for IUSE checks.

2011-09-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
gt; > 'in_iuse' or 'iuse_contains'? I'd prefer to keep consistency with the parent function has(), so it's obvious exactly how it will work. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpA9WTwC02k1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-utils.eclass: punt unnecessary .la files even w/ USE=static-libs.

2011-09-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:58 Mon 12 Sep , Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:00:20 -0500 > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > local f > > > for f in $(find "${D}" -type f -name '*.la'); do > > > # Keep only .la files with shouldnotlink=yes

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-utils.eclass: punt unnecessary .la files even w/ USE=static-libs.

2011-09-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ve .pc files). It's probably more that "nobody" cares about static building than that there aren't packages that would break. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgphwBqOBZT6Q.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-utils.eclass: punt unnecessary .la files even w/ USE=static-libs.

2011-09-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
comment says "or" but I see an "and" here. > + -e > "s/^dependency_libs='\(.*\)'$/\1/p" \ > + -e > "s/^inherited_linker_fla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Rewriting bash-completion.eclass

2011-09-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ersion bumps to a new eclass. It's just as annoying in an eclass as in a shared library. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpe4A1WUfHEv.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: devqawarn()?

2011-09-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:44 Thu 01 Sep , Petteri Räty wrote: > One thing to note is that we should get eqawarn into the next EAPI. Why? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpC80OrHx438.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] mesa r600 gallium news item

2011-08-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:51 Wed 31 Aug , Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Donnie Berkholz schrieb: > > On 23:12 Thu 25 Aug , Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > >> Existing users will not be switched automatically. > > > > Why not? If it's considered the suppo

Re: [gentoo-dev] mesa r600 gallium news item

2011-08-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:12 Thu 25 Aug , Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Existing users will not be switched automatically. Why not? If it's considered the supported route going forward, we should just do it automatically. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
s like adding packages to the tree that collect data from users > and compile it, Like, oh, any package with a built-in bug reporting system? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgplaqzIBXO04.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Implicit system dependencies

2011-08-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
6f3dfc762f4f7e313b106deb.xml 4. http://soc.dev.gentoo.org/~darkdefender/ebuildgenerator -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgp441wcSLJ6h.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds

2011-08-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
source" clause rather than the "providing source at the same time as binary" clause (i.e., 3b rather than 3a in GPL-2). -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpKNPzYQVAdA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=introspection has been unmasked in the tree

2011-08-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 21:23 Tue 16 Aug , Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > A side-note that we've wanted to get out to all devs is that everyone > should *always* use IUSE="+introspection". Then why is it a flag? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog:

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gentoo-x86 migration to repo-per-package

2011-08-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
sion across packages, and furthmore, package moves wouldn't duplicate history. If you're interested in fixing the above problems as well as the ones that exist regardless of repo format (linked on the main tracker bug [2]), then submodules could become a better option. -- Thanks,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Turning eclasses upside down with new EAPIs (the python eclasses)

2011-07-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ust plain confusing, and it should go into a new version-bumped eclass instead. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpgLBfaNeoHa.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/pimd RFC for new ebuild

2011-07-19 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:40 Tue 19 Jul , Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 14:32, Kacper Kowalik wrote: > > W dniu 19.07.2011 19:31, Donnie Berkholz pisze: > >> On 11:43 Sun 17 Jul     , Kacper Kowalik wrote: > >>> W dniu 17.07.2011 10:45, Kfir Lavi pisze: > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/pimd RFC for new ebuild

2011-07-19 Thread Donnie Berkholz
and fix you're proposing? You stopped halfway through, there should've been a part at the end that said: ", so you need to do XX to avoid YY from happening". -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpJjW4Wm54GR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
every couple of months to help every time one of these weird problems comes up. I recommended upgrades to the new admin every 3 months, which is a point where nearly everything still works cleanly. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpbxhlF9Fgwu.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: optinal run time dependencies

2011-06-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
file. 3) Something like the --take argument and friends that Ciaran mentioned seems reasonable (perhaps --accept-suggestion, w/ a short option to save typing). Problems? Other thoughts? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpEU

Re: [gentoo-dev] Don't use / when applying sed with CFLAGS

2011-06-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
g us what to _not_ use as separator how about suggesting a > list of konwn to be good separators for such cases. How about the @ character? One of my favorites for weird cases is ~. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpaaKjqoCZiQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages that explicitly DEPEND on sys-apps/sed

2011-06-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
on. On a related note that would accomplish similar purposes, it would also be nice if we could somehow discriminate between DEPEND and RDEPEND for @system packages so build-only deps could be removed. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpPUQh7quVSd.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/qa: index.xml

2011-06-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ink would work alright. Perhaps interested people on the team could just say they want to be lead, and the council would pick one of them. I think leadership should come from the top. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgph7SFlBjLvo.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo package statistics -- GSoC 2011

2011-06-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
roject could actually attempt to factor out which USE flags result in which files in an automatic fashion. That would address one of the biggest objections many people have had to such a package-to-file search engine. It would also be pretty useful for some other GSoC projects, like the ebuild gene

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: an eclass for github snapshots?

2011-06-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
; (section 12.2) It seems compliant to me, as S is assigned an invariant value that happens to contain the character '*', which is overwritten with a new value as a local variable in ebuild functions. Sample code in listing 12.1 in my copy of the PMS seems to suggest this is perfec

[gentoo-dev] Web-design help request

2011-05-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
us to also fix some of the frontend usability issues. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Team lead, public relations Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpfcuG38Min8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 24 hour review for >= dev-libs/glib-2.28 stable news item

2011-04-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
n Editor, they will now be ignored." -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpLMYrMOIz33.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
clear on what exactly happens though, since I've seen people talking about this *maybe* resulting in an unbootable system. Has anyone tested it? One potential cleaner approach to the same idea Kfir suggested is to make it an interactive emerge with an ACCEPT_LICENSE-like feature that pops up some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:48 Mon 18 Apr , Corentin Chary wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > - Another useful thing would be a way to supply CPV tokens for any > >  "unstable" upstream series that we'll never add to the tree. > > There is alre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:48 Mon 18 Apr , Corentin Chary wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > - Some teams have "official" overlays. Supporting those as an additional > >  source of ebuilds would be pretty nice. > > I'll just checkout these

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
the tree. - This looks like a problem (a versioned tarball named cairo-5c): http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/x11-libs/cairo/ -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpKu9VoK0Qtd.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
people will start laughing at yet another "new" init system. =) If there's a guide around already, or a blog post, or you want to draft something, let me know and I'd be happy to polish it up. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/PyZilla: PyZilla-0.1.0.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml

2011-03-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ad a nifty news system for making announcements. And I > thought we were supposed to have Smolt support like two years ago. What > happened to it? I wonder the same question too, since it seems statistics is an eternally returning GSoC project. Sebastian, you worked on this in 2009. What ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/PyZilla: PyZilla-0.1.0.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml

2011-03-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
the same thing with numerous serious, unfixed bugs or tinderbox errors means something much different. We have the ability to do these kinds of intersections today, since our wonderful bug wranglers normally insert the $CAT/$PN into summaries and Diego has tinderbox bugs filed. -- Thanks, Donnie

Re: [gentoo-dev] mono.eclass EAPI3(/4)

2011-03-25 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-d "${ED}/usr/lib" && "$(get_libdir)" != "lib" ]] No need for quotes when expanding variables or functions inside [[ ]]. That holds true for the rest of the diff, too. I'd also split this (and a later find call) into two separate conditionals, with just one test per [[ ]]. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgp15BGErOV6U.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: git-2.eclass final review

2011-03-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
erhaps we could detect whether submodules are in use (need to find the right place/way in git), then grab them as separate bare checkouts that would eventually be cloned into TMPDIR by changing the repo location git looks for (again, need to sort out how in git). -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie B

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eclass review: xorg-2 virtualx

2011-03-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
--disable-jisx0201 > + --disable-koi8-r" > + fi Any chance we can just clean out the fonts that still use the old way and delete most of this? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpV233MzoVf4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: git-2.eclass final review

2011-03-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ngs over ... > > Or better yet, git clone. This could work well with --shared; even worked for me on separate partitions. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpXPp3orTeuv.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/ffmpeg and media-video/libav

2011-03-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
so before we decided it was definitely a zombie and burned it to a crisp. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpKRB5nyAlw6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Quantity of open bugs

2011-03-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
packages, but clearly more investigation is required before removal. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com pgpXlUAj6ZLsw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla 4 migration

2011-03-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 07:50 Tue 08 Mar , Hans de Graaff wrote: > On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 08:13 -0600, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > Thanks! One thing I've been very interested about in 3.x and 4.x is API > > access that's better than screen-scraping. I tried using the > > py

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla 4 migration

2011-03-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 16:35 Mon 07 Mar , Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 15:13, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Thanks! One thing I've been very interested about in 3.x and 4.x is API > > access that's better than screen-scraping. I tried using the > > python-bugzill

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