Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-04 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: >>> - Project status reports once a month for every project >> Totally agree on this one! > > OK. > > I'll give you Release Engineering's "status reports" for September, > October, and November: > > September: taking a well-d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-05 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer wrote: > Most devs run ~arch Says who? Did you pull that fact out of a hat, or something? Do you have any hard numbers to back that statement? Let's have an informal poll some time: I know I don't run ~arch, and there are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Troubleshooters for Gentoo

2006-10-13 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joshua Nichols wrote: > Maurice van der Pot wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've noticed in the past that a lot of people come to irc with problems >> in some area (say networking) that are easy to solve just by first >> asking a number of questions to identify th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS

2006-10-22 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > So, Luis gave up on this, and now it's time againf or removing xmms from the > tree. > > I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages: > > dev-perl/Xmms-Perl > dev-python/pyxmms > gnome-extra/gxmms > med

Re: [gentoo-dev] firefox-2.0

2006-10-29 Thread Josh Saddler
Michal Kurgan wrote: > Hello! > > Recently new firefox-2.0 was released. > I (and probably many other users) am interested when this new version would > be unmasked and stabilized. If there are any problems, what are they and what > to expect if i would force installation now? Is there any roadmap

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

2006-11-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Jon Portnoy wrote: > I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for > sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop. > > I mostly only maintain a small handful of ebuilds, I'm sure they can > find proper homes quickly. None are maintenance-intensive. > > And of co

Re: [gentoo-dev] New GDP developer: Dimitry Bradt

2006-11-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce to you Dimitry "diox" Brad. He is joining > us to translate our documentation into Dutch. Let's see if he is able to > bring us more Dutch users by improving our documentation. He is also > looking into taking the ebuild quiz later on and getting

Re: [gentoo-dev] New doc developer: Naoaki Shindo

2006-11-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Heim wrote: > Its my pleasure to introduce to you Naoaki Shindo (also known as shindo), our > latest addition helping with the Japanese translations. > > Naoaki hails from Sapporo, Japan (that's where they eat Sushi, *yummy*), > where > he lives with his wife. He's currently working f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Tandy wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:35:43 -0800 Peter Gordon >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> | On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 08:40 +, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> | > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even >> | > vote on, let us know ! Simply re

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.13 going into ~ARCH soon

2006-11-06 Thread Josh Saddler
Patrick McLean wrote: > Matthew Snelham wrote: >> >>> If you want that level of flexability then simply symlink /lib/rcscripts >>> to /var/rcscripts or where-ever you like. >> But then baselayout is still 'behaving badly' by sttempting to store >> dynamic state information in /lib. Something it

Re: [gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: lists.g.o hardware issues

2006-11-23 Thread Josh Saddler
Lance Albertson wrote: > (I apologize if this is sent twice, it didn't through the first time it > seems) > > All- > > We've been having some hardware issues with the machine that runs > lists.g.o in the last week or so. Unfortunately, lcars (the person who > manages it) is going out of town this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-29 Thread Josh Saddler
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > While I truly appreciate your ability to give your opinion, I don't > care. As I said, I am working on this concept as an experiment. It is > being done by Release Engineering. We aren't really *asking* anyone for > their opinion. We're simply stating what we plan on w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Big change ideea

2006-12-06 Thread Josh Saddler
Alexandru Mincu wrote: > Hi all, > I don't know if this has come up before so excuse me if I am repeating. > I recently stumbled upon the following Linux distribution: > http://www.gobolinux.org/ > They have an idea that Mac OS X implemented it when it first came out to > be more user friendly. > T

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/ltsp

2006-12-23 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi all, > > net-misc/ltsp will be removed on 15 Jan 2007, it has been hard masked > today. There is no maintainer, we have an open security issue [1], so it > will be punted. If someone steps to take it over, you know what to do. > > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/

Re: [gentoo-dev] openmosix maintainer needed

2007-01-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > openmosix has been hardmasked for a long time: > > # Tim Yamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (07 Aug 2006) > # Security mask > # Bugs #135167, #137623, #137626, #138617, #139321, > # #139475, #139641, #140444, #141503, #142616, #142617 > sys-kernel/openmosix-sources > sys-clus

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Marius Mauch wrote: The main problem I see is that if it's becoming a real incremental (across all config layers) it would change behavior for users as they'd need to prefix their use-expanded vars with -* to retain their current config. But I guess that's why you added that final clause about pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Raúl Porcel (ar min76)

2007-01-07 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce to you Raúl "armin76" Porcel. He is > joining us to put maintainer-wanted stuff to the tree and remove stuff > via treecleaners. The teams he targets now are net-p2p, mozilla and > treecleaners. > > He hails from Barcelona, Spain. His hobbies and

Re: [gentoo-dev] deprecating /etc/make.profile

2007-01-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Simon Stelling wrote: > Hi all, > > As per bug 148388 [1] comment 1, I'd like to discuss the deprecation of > /etc/make.profile and the use of a PORTAGE_PROFILE variable instead. > Reason for this change aside from consistency with all other portage > settings is the annoyance of re-adjusting the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > >> Submit your ideas here, so we can discuss them. I will be choosing one >> idea that we think we can accomplish to test out the idea of >> Council-driven projects. > > How far was Curtis from finishing www-redesign? > The whole thing was pretty muc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-22 Thread Josh Saddler
Rémi Cardona wrote: > Josh Saddler a écrit : >> Ryan Hill wrote: >>> Chris Gianelloni wrote: >>> >>>> Submit your ideas here, so we can discuss them. I will be choosing one >>>> idea that we think we can accomplish to test out the idea of >&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Maintainer Timeout

2007-02-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Alec Warner wrote: > Don't be an asshole > Don't screw up* > * Corollary: if you do screw up, take responsibility and fix it/find > someone to help you. DON'T MAKE IT WORSE. Indeed, agreed. An excellent response. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New network config for baselayout-ng

2007-02-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:26:40 +0100 > Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> lol, >> anyway stop this thread, Roy stated that the installed cfg files will >> be managed via use flags that would satisfy everyone. > > I say maybe a USE flag or something else. May not need

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt raidtools and move people to mdadm

2007-02-12 Thread Josh Saddler
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Migration is from my experience painless. Even if detecting does not > work, the mdadm.conf syntax is easier IMHO. > > However a nice little guide or doc on it, should cover and address most > all user issues stemming from migration. If such a document does not > al

Re: [gentoo-dev] Slacker archs

2007-02-19 Thread Josh Saddler
Brian Harring wrote: > [many statistics] > Aside from that, aparently props should be given to sparc; seem to be > on top of things. > > Either way, data to chew on. > > ~harring Much thanks for the stats, Brian, it does help to have extra perspective. And yes, eroyf is doing a heckuva lot to g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement plans for =net-nds/openldap-2.{1,2}*

2007-02-24 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > This is an announcement that =net-nds/openldap-2.1* is going into p.mask > now, and will be removed in 30 days. It contains security > vulnerabilities that have been fixed in new major versions from > upstream, and upstream no longer provides support for it. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing Daniel Robbins (drobbins)

2007-02-27 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my please to introduce to you Daniel "drobbins" Robbins. Daniel is > going to work with the amd64 arch team but will probably venture to > other areas too. Daniel doesn't have much experience with Gentoo so > let's give him a helping hand in the start. > > In his dark pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] more up to date minimal install cd

2007-03-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On 3/3/07, Daniel Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Right now, installing Gentoo is a chore, and the many wonderful >> choices of Gentoo end up making the install rather complicated. So I >> definitely support ideas to help make our installation process >> better/streaml

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > (Pkgcore is in parts based upon Portage code -- whether or not this is > a good thing is irrelevant to this discussion) Nice way of adding in that little "cover my ass so's I can snipe at a competing project" parenthetical statement. That statement is in itself irrelevant

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > If it's later on, there won't be lots > of holes that we know are there that he can use as some kind of twisted > proof that PMS sucks. zOMG Cabal conspiracy!!1oneone! So, who'se conspiring against you now? Devrel? The Council? Oh...*Brian* this time. Or just anyone whom

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Grant Goodyear wrote: > The > original devmanual was written using Restructured Text (like our GLEPs), > along with various scripts that ciaranm wrote to assemble all of the > bits and pieces properly into a coherent online guide. Plasmaroo and > halcy0n converted the restructured text to guidexml

Re: [gentoo-dev] NTP and DST problem

2007-03-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Caleb Cushing wrote: if I'm using a pre-fix timezone file and using ntp will it correct my machine to the correct time? The forums are the appropriate place for these kinds of questions, not the development mailing list. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] TeX maintainer needed

2007-03-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Faulhammer wrote: > [TeX stuff] Along with this, if anyone wants to take a look at bug 118405[1], the GDP could really use the help, especially since it was nattfodd who first requested a TeX document in the first place. It's been sitting there for a long time now, so unless someone writ

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Josh Saddler
Pierre-Yves Rofes wrote: > Well, I'd tend to say that it's not noticeable even under $(HOME) because > one issues a "ls [-l]" more often than a "ls -a[l]". > Besides, moving all into ~/.config is just moving the problem somewhere > else, not really solving it. Agreed. It's just moving the problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-23 Thread Josh Saddler
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > Hello, > > I have already submitted my application, but want to advertise it over here > too :] Comments are welcome! > > Summary: > Create Python bindings, associated documentation and test cases for the > Paludis public API, and allow subclassing of Paludis classes

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ALSA maintainers

2007-03-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Jakub Moc wrote: > Uhm... Sorry to see this issue brought up yet again. Just a couple of > brief notes: > > - The in-kernel drivers seriously are not an equivalent alternative, let > alone the preferred one, for stuff like hda-intel or any similar drivers > that are under permanent heavy developme

Re: [gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project, Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?

2007-03-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > I find that as long as you read and follow the Gentoo XML Guide, > writing docs is easy and using XML is handy. What I like the most is, > as it was already noted, that I don't have to take care of the layout. > > However I have never found anything about writing project pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-30 Thread Josh Saddler
Anant Narayanan wrote: > Hi Mike, > > On 31-Mar-07, at 2:21 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> not really, why dont you apply some of your logic: >> - you are not wanted as an official Gentoo developer ... the past >> clearly >> shows this >> - the official package manager of Gentoo would need to be >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 16:00 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> Honestly, the only reason there is any suggestion of a conspiracy is >> because of the threats being made by certain people to keep a certain >> log a secret... > > The log contains information that was given to

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Michael Cummings wrote: > So, fellow devs, what's new with development? 2007.0 handbooks. I am t3h master of the handbooks. They're basically done, unless I actually hear from arch teams that changes are needed. I've been working my keister off; I think I racked up >100 commits for these things. P

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing retired developers from project pages

2007-04-17 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 04:10:14PM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote: >> I made a patch to remove all retired developers from the project pages. >> If anyone doesn't object I will commit this next week. > Removing the tags is fine, but please don't remove the > tags. They show

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new herd: theology

2007-04-27 Thread Josh Saddler
Steve Dibb wrote: > Dominique Michel wrote: > >> I fully agree, theology is the worst possible name if the herd will >> include >> both religious and scientific softwares. > > No worries, app-misc/gramps was dropped from the theology herd, and is > herdless once again. It's interesting that peop

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Nathan Smith wrote: > On 4/28/07, Rémi Cardona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Josh Sled wrote: >> >> > If that's the case, might not "humanities" be a better name? >> >> s/theology/humanities/ sounds good. +1 from me. >> >> Rémi >> -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list >> >> > > Indeed. Even if we

Re: [gentoo-dev] tests

2007-05-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Maurice van der Pot wrote: >>> fex: >> Please don't abuse the English language in that manner. > > Since you took the time to highlight this apparently grave injustice to > the English language, would you please explain it to me so I can do > better next time? he just doesn't like it because it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] tests

2007-05-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Stephen Bennett wrote: > On Tue, 01 May 2007 14:52:30 -0700 > Josh Saddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> anyway, on the subject of tests...as others have covered the *first* >> time this was discussed on the lists, mandatory tests being run every >> time the use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optional Package Dependencies for netscape-flash -> libflashsupport

2007-05-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Jim Ramsay wrote: > Olivier Crête wrote: >> On Thu, 2007-10-05 at 14:20 -0400, Patrick McLean wrote: >>> Jim Ramsay wrote: 1) Create a single local USE flag (flashsupport or something) that will just pull in this dependency. 2) Use the same set of USE flags as libflashsupport ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Optional Package Dependencies for netscape-flash -> libflashsupport

2007-05-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: > net-www/netscape-flash-9.0.31.0 USE="libflashsupport -debug" > media-lib/libflashsupport-1.2 USE="esd gnutls oss pulseaudio ssl" > > is the right way to do it. Absolutely! I was about to post the same thing -- put some kind of use on netscape-flash to pull in libflashsupport

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Peter Gordon wrote: > On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 01:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> Supporting this would be a huge policy violation, and not so merely as >> a technicality. I suggest simply removing ion support from the main >> tree, and sticking it in an overlay that comes with a big warning >> te

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-17 Thread Josh Saddler
_JusSx_ wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 05:36:22PM +0100, Gustavo Felisberto wrote: >> A little background info: Right now there are three versions of >> net-im/skype in the tree: >> >> 1 - the 1.2 series (with a stable version) >> 2- the 1.3 series also with a stable version >> 3- the 1.4 series

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Pony Colour Schemes [was: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree]

2007-06-18 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: > Andrew Gaffney wrote: >> Chris Gianelloni wrote: >>> If the Gentoo developers as a whole decided to dedicate this list to >>> pink ponies, we can. >> Are pretty purple ponies acceptable as well? > > As *everybody* knows, purple ponies aren't pretty. > > > > > Well, maybe a l

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages

2007-06-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:19:46 -0500 > Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm not sure that's really a feasible solution (but then you probably >> weren't suggesting it with that intention). Being able to create a >> "backup" of any installed package without re-emer

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages

2007-06-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Josh Saddler wrote: >>> Do potential licensing/copyright issues like these factor into your >>> proposal in any way? >> no, that's an exercise for the user

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Linux-PAM stabling plans

2007-07-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Ned Ludd wrote: > Forwarded by request of somebody thats smart/lucky enough to not > be on this list but still monitoring it. > > Forwarded Message > From: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: New Linux-PAM stabling plans > Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 20:51:36 +020

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-new developer: Tobias Heinlein (keytoaster)

2007-07-06 Thread Josh Saddler
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > He will > initially work for that other desktop environment, also known as KDE. > So please, everybody, give a warm non-welcome to Tobias. KDE? Boo! How's that for a non-greeting? ;) Just kidding. Congrats on completing your extra quizzes, Tobias! signature.as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for more photos on planet.g.o

2007-07-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Rémi Cardona wrote: > People with funky pictures > - dirtyepic > - nightmorph > - beandog Maybe that *is* my real face! Or maybe it's my pet penguin. Whatcha think about that?!? > Please send in a nice picture of yourselves, I'll cut it out nicely and > forward it to infra. Well, if you're will

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Jim Ramsay wrote: > Mike Doty wrote: >> devs who moderate in bad posts will be subject to moderation >> themselves. > > Will this be monitored/enforced by the proctors? > See the council meeting logs when they're posted. Having just watched the meeting "live," I saw that the proctors project was

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-13 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 08:13:53PM -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: >> My thought is this: everyone should try and evaluate their own behaviour >> on this list, and the method in which they treat others. If each of us >> actually thought about the effects of our attitudes, t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-14 Thread Josh Saddler
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time > -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time No. -core should not ever be public. It's not for development anyway. -core contains things like personal issues the developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Zombie: Sven Vermeulen (swift)

2007-07-18 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > Your doc zombie Sven Vermeulen has risen from his grave and is back to > beat www.gentoo.org/doc/en with his fingers. Give him the usual welcome > with nice head shots. Hi SwifTy. See you 'round our channel! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 12:15 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: >> Roy Marples wrote: >>> This is just a heads up for getting baselayout-2 stable. Next week I >>> plan to put baselayout-2.0.0_rc1 into the tree without any keywords and >>> it will be removed from package.mask (keeping th

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 11:48 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: >> (GDP): you give us the info, we'll document it for you. Or I will at least. > > Well, the changes are as outlined in my first email. > The user changes are mainly a few variables in the /et

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 17:25 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: >> Archiving the handbook isn't possible. > > Why? Unless I'm missing something, it should be fairly trivial. It ain't. It's an old issue. Current networked (requires a net connection

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: joining the Software Freedom Conservancy

2007-07-22 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: >> While I think this would be an excellent move, there are a few topics >> that concern me a bit: >> 1) just to be sure, did someone check the transfer agreement between the >> Foundation and the old Gentoo, Inc for potential problems? >> 2) what would this m

Re: [gentoo-dev] please drop support for 2.4

2007-07-22 Thread Josh Saddler
Rajiv Aaron Manglani wrote: > > hello all. i would like to propose that we officially drop support for > 2.4 kernel profiles (especially default-linux/x86/no-nptl/2.4). over the > last few months it has been increasingly difficult to keep 2.4 systems > up to date. vanilla-sources is the only plac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-31 Thread Josh Saddler
Blackace wrote: > I'd like to nominate: > > vapier > tsunam > nightmorph > seemant > avenj > christel > > Although most of them will probably decline, I think they would do an > excellent job straightening out Gentoo's heading and have the barnacles > to perform the requisite keelhauling. I app

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending death of mail-filter/spamassassin-ruledujour

2007-08-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Heya, > > The upstream rules_du_jour folk have had issues over the last few months > with DDoS and other attacks. Additionally, the nature of their original > update mechanism causes a lot of traffic. > > Everybody that is using rules_du_jour is strongly encouraged to m

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2007-08-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Grant Goodyear wrote: > Vapier wrote: [Tue Aug 07 2007, 10:16:55PM CDT] >> This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council >> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the >> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC). > > Um, I'm pret

Re: [gentoo-dev] LinuxWorld pictures and Dev House

2007-08-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Mike Lundy wrote: > Quite the crew: http://www.flickr.com/photos/novas0x2a/1079324702/. > Also, http://www.flickr.com/photos/novas0x2a/1079315370/ > > (If anyone in the pictures wants to be tagged, let me know, or just > send me a friend request and then do it yourself) > > Solar must be a vampir

Re: [gentoo-dev] /etc/ppp/(ip-up.d,ip-down.d} directories

2007-08-26 Thread Josh Saddler
Alin Năstac wrote: > A gentoo user requested in bug 190143 [1] to change the way pppd deals > with interface up/down events. He requested to break current > ip-up/ip-down functionality into different scripts contained in > /etc/ppp/(ip-up.d,ip-down.d}. > > What do you think about? Is it worth it?

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.4 profiles are on their way out!

2007-08-27 Thread Josh Saddler
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 16:18 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> Let this be a lesson to everyone. Just because you discussed it a >>> couple months ago doesn't necessarily mean: >>> >>> a) it is still wanted >>> -or- >>> b) it is still valid >> so what is the 2.4 status then

Re: [gentoo-dev] On my way out....

2007-08-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Gustavo Zacarias wrote: > > I resign as gentoo developer. > Infra: please remove my accounts. > But! But! But you're the only sparc team member that ever bothered to help me with the sparc handbook updates and other documents. Sorry to see you go; I've enjoyed working with you. Fortune to your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-wm/ion2

2007-09-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Mike Doty wrote: > Matti Bickel wrote: >> Hi, >> as previously mentioned, ion2 is currently broken (bug #167468) and >> going away in favour of the soon to be stable x11-wm/ion3. >> >> It will be p.masked and removed in 30 days unless someone speaks up and >> solves the issues surrounding slotted l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-wm/ion2

2007-09-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Dawid Węgliński wrote: > Dnia 11-09-2007, wto o godzinie 18:36 -0700, Chris Gianelloni > napisał(a): >> On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 17:54 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: >>> Mike Doty wrote: >>>> Matti Bickel wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> as p

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Mike Pagano (mpagano)

2007-10-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Denis Dupeyron wrote: >> Yes people, Mike is older than Uncle Seemant, and even older than me. > > But is he older than nerdboy? Do we have competition for the Crotchety > Old Man title? Are we going to hear lots of stories that start with > "when I was your age"? > > Welc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming masking of dev-lang/php-4* and packages depending on it

2007-10-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Hoffmann wrote: > Heya, > > I'm going to p.mask =dev-lang/php-4* and all packages explicitly > depending on this version of php (i.e. the whole dev-php4/ category > (36 packages) and one webapp, www-apps/knowledgetree, bug 194894 [1]) > next weekend (around Oct 14th). This step is necess

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming masking of dev-lang/php-4* and packages depending on it

2007-10-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Hoffmann wrote: > On 2007-10-10 at 22:44 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: > >> Since you're doing the masking, can you please help out the GDP by >> reviewing a few of our documents for any potential changes that must >> be made? Grepping for "php4"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming masking of dev-lang/php-4* and packages depending on it

2007-10-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Josh Saddler wrote: > Christian Hoffmann wrote: >> On 2007-10-10 at 22:44 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: >> >>> Since you're doing the masking, can you please help out the GDP by >>> reviewing a few of our documents for any potential changes that must >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Dawid Węgliński (cla)

2007-10-16 Thread Josh Saddler
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > He will now be a full developer and work with > the net-irc and x86 arch teams. Point of clarification: He already *was* a "full developer" before; he's just now *also* an "ebuild developer." You make it sound like non-ebuild devs with different kinds of commit access aren'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinions Wanted - Arrays again :)

2007-10-25 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > Hello List > > It's your favourite posix shell lover here, asking for your honest > opinions. > > array="1.2.3.4 netmask 5.6.7.8; > \* > 'host.name' netmask 1.2.3.4 > -I 'option; $FOO with spaces' > " > > array=("1.2.3.4 netmask 5.6.7.8;" > "\*" > "'host.name' netmask 1.2.3.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Slapd calls nss_ldap before opening its ports

2007-10-29 Thread Josh Saddler
Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> I may venture to assume that repetitive error messages of >> that plenty could be seen at least as a documentation bug. > > Which should be filed as a bug report or sent to the gentoo-doc list. It's not a Gentoo documentation bug, so don't bother to file one, nor mentio

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: modplug

2007-11-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Samuli Suominen wrote: > I'd like to add USE modplug to use.desc. I'll do it tomorrow, > unless someone objects. > > -- snip -- > > local use flags (searching: modplug) > > [-] modplug (gnustep-apps/cynthiune): > Build with modplug

Re: [gentoo-dev] death to mailer-config/mailwrapper

2007-11-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > A bit over two years ago, some developers set out to get debian's > concept of mailerwrapper ('alternatives' for mail). Ever since then, > there have been a number of package.masks for various MTAs, and > the need to carry them forward. > > mailer-config/mailwrapper have

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> ...which is just as good as "broken" when it happens to a new user >> first installing Gentoo and wondering why he can't even follow the >> directions in the Handbook. > > ...so you just ensure that the handbook tells the user to upgrade the > package manager as quickly a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-13 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > There isn't meant to be the big black area at the top like, the main > gentoo.org site. But shouldn't there be some sort of area at the top with links to the other parts of the site, as the other pages do (the navstrip across the top)? Right now there's zero integration w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-14 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:12:46PM -0800, Josh Saddler wrote: >> Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>> There isn't meant to be the big black area at the top like, the main >>> gentoo.org site. >> But shouldn't there be some sort of area

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-14 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > I've been > asking and looking, but have not yet found, a version of the logo > without the spotlight effect on the background. What about http://www.gentoo.org/images/gentoo-logo.svg ? It's just the G, without any attached background or halo effect. Convert it to a png o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Good-bye

2007-11-24 Thread Josh Saddler
Seemant Kulleen wrote: > Dear Gentoo Devs and Users, > > The time has finally come for me to resign from Gentoo. I've been > meaning to do it for many months now, but the logistics took a little > bit of time. Effective Monday, Nov. 26, I will no longer consider > myself an official Gentoo devel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add USE_EXPAND for apache

2007-11-24 Thread Josh Saddler
Benedikt Böhm wrote: > Hi all, > > the current behaviour of the apache ebuild -- chosing built-in modules based > on /etc/apache2/apache-builtin-mods -- is very aweful, especially for binary > packages. > > Therefore, i would like to add APACHE2_MODULES and APACHE2_MPMS to > USE_EXPAND. > I h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add USE_EXPAND for apache

2007-11-29 Thread Josh Saddler
Josh Saddler wrote: > Benedikt Böhm wrote: >> > If this goes through, please look over our existing apache-related > documentation and file a bug with any necessary changes. I updated our documentation, thanks to the massive patch sent my way by hollow. (Thanks, Benedikt!) As

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for December

2007-12-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Jose Luis Rivero wrote: > I would suggest this kind of question based on the different ideas shown > by the developers comunity: > > - What is proper way to make changes to ebuild related information >(metadata.dtd)? Do we need a GLEP? It only need to be discussed in -dev >first? Gentoo-d

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: >> Unportable to filesystems that don't support extended attributes isn't >> very interesting to me, unless they're common. Out of curiosity, do you >> know which ones that would be? Looking at my kernel config, ext3 and >> reiser explicitly suppo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:17:12 +0100 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Putting a tag in the file name or at the to of the file as comment >> (maybe using a #! line) is the same ... > * It's a format restriction. Some formats have to start with something > that's n

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set

2008-01-09 Thread Josh Saddler
Mike Frysinger wrote: >> Well, openssh has always been questionable. Sure, *I* think it should >> be on any Gentoo system I'd want to touch, but it really isn't necessary >> for a lot of people. Moving this to, say, the "server" profiles only >> would be acceptable to me, but then again, so is le

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Josh Saddler
Luca Barbato wrote: > Here is a list of interesting questions: "Are we fine?" "What are we > going to do?" Documentation (Note: I'm not the project lead, but neysx isn't on the list, nor does he send status updates, so I hope he and the rest of the project won't mind. > Are we fine? Sure, why n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: sys-devel/distcc-config

2008-01-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: > # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10 Jan 2008) > # Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc > # Masked for removal (treecleaner) > # Bug #192741 > sys-devel/distcc-config > > Given that this is being removed, can you or someone in charge of distcc packages please pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: sys-devel/distcc-config

2008-01-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > Josh Saddler kirjoitti: >> Ryan Hill wrote: >>> # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10 Jan 2008) >>> # Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc >>> # Masked for removal (treecleaner) >>> # Bug #192741 >>> sy

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-26 Thread Josh Saddler
Zac Medico wrote: > (shtuff) This sounds like something that might require extensive documentation changes. If so, please review the Portage Handbooks for anything that will need updating, as well as the Gentoo Upgrading Guide[1]. This latter document is where we keep the instructions for upgradin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Adding two USE flags to 2008.0's profiles

2008-02-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > Actually bluetooth support is in quite a good shape. The thing was there > was a urgent need to get bluez-utils-3* stable for which I need some doc > updates etc before it can go stable. (Yes I am a slacker there) Doc updates? GDP hasn't heard anything about this, as far as

Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to steal your tools

2008-02-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Alec Warner wrote: s/writtten/written s/aggregrate/aggregate s/genitellia/genitalia app-doc/nightmorph, your spellchecking tool. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Keyword amd64 -> x86_64

2008-02-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > Beside, does it really changes stuff for anybody beside Intel fanboys? In fairness, not just for Intel fanboys. Drop by the forums some time and just try to count up all the threads asking "are the amd64 stages/media appropriate for my computer? i have a core 2..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Anant Narayanan wrote: > [stuff] So basically, what you're looking for is something like Arch Linux's Trusted User (TU) concept[1]. That works for Arch, because they have 5 repositories (including a community repo), but I'm not sure how well that would fit Gentoo, where there's just one. We'd ne

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