Re: [gentoo-dev] Mass filing of bugs/Gentoo sanitation

2007-02-02 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:29:06 +0100 Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 14:04 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > > Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen wrote: > > > Anyway, as I'm developing this program, I'm discovering a lot of minor > > > bugs in the Gentoo system

Re: [gentoo-dev] "active" gcc/kernel/... dependencies (was: tr1 dependencies)

2007-01-30 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:49:48 +0100 Matthias Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > isn't it possible to check the version of gcc that is in _use_ in an > ebuild, like i can do in a configure script? if so, one could provide a > "old-gcc" use flag that must be enabled when trying to build with > whe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: amd64 help

2007-01-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:15:18 +0100 (MET) Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:17:35 +0100 (MET) Christian Faulhammer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | As we all notice from time to time, amd64 team is lacking behind

Re: [gentoo-dev] DB vs SCM (was Re: [RFC] Some sync control)

2007-01-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:11:07 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Since this is a different question which got buried in the other > discussion, I appreciate it should be a new thread: > > I'm a bit confused about all the portage tree stuff. There's just > under 25,000 ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:10:22 +1100 Daniel Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While hanging around lca07 it was mentioned how bandwidth hungry > Gentoo is. > > Given a lot of the world is still on dialup this could increase the > potential userbase for Gentoo. > > As such the project idea is A

Re: [gentoo-dev] deprecating /etc/make.profile

2007-01-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:30:00 +0200 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > As per bug 148388 [1] comment 1, I'd like to discuss the deprecation > of /etc/make.profile and the use of a PORTAGE_PROFILE variable > instead. Reason for this change aside from consistency with all other

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:06:09 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Gianelloni napsal(a): > > Uhh... you missed RESTRICT=userpriv and the upcoming > > RESTRICT=unattended when calling for no "ACCEPT_RESTRICT"... > > Don't see how's userpriv related here; also the original idea was to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:00:42 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 10 January 2007 13:45, Jakub Moc wrote: > > Real solution, sure... RESTRICT=sandbox is not a solution, it's > > identical to the current hackish workaround, so I guess we can save > > portage folks the trou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Timetable for removing digest-* files

2007-01-09 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:12:55 +0200 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As the Manifest 2 format makes the digest-* files unnecessary, does > anyone have a timetable for removing the digest files? Would be great > if we could make this one of the features of 2007.0. Our plan was to disable d

Re: [gentoo-dev] A reminder about elog/einfo usage

2007-01-08 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:01:07 +0100 Thilo Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Basically if it's for the user to read use elog, if it's just a > > status message (like "applying patch", "no

Re: [gentoo-dev] A reminder about elog/einfo usage

2007-01-08 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:26:12 +0100 Thilo Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Just a heads up that in the coming weeks I'll start checking > > packages that still use einfo for important messages and convert > > them

[gentoo-dev] A reminder about elog/einfo usage

2007-01-05 Thread Marius Mauch
Just a heads up that in the coming weeks I'll start checking packages that still use einfo for important messages and convert them to elog if appropriate. If you have a problem with me doing that for your packages that notify me off-list. You can find the current list of packages to check at dev.ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-02 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:21:45 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:14:19 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:12:47 + > | Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > Following a d

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-02 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:12:47 + Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Following a discussion in #gentoo-portage earlier this evening, it was > suggested that I send out an RFC email for this. So, does anyone > object to requiring that any variable listed in USE_EXPAND be treated > as incr

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add ALSA_CARDS to USE_EXPAND

2006-11-30 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:17:29 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today I added a 1.0.13_pre20061130 pre-release version of > alsa-driver, and I noticed that we currently don't have ALSA_CARDS as > IUSE-expanded variable, and that people aren't aware of which drivers > ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stricter --newuse settings

2006-11-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:34:57 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], > excerpted below, on Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:36:53 -0500: > > > Vlastimil Babka wrote: > >> > >> Duncan wrote: > >>> whatever USE flag removal forcing --newuser re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] [treequake] virtual/mysql addition

2006-11-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:10:58 -0800 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - USE=server/client/minimal poses problem when it comes to dealing > with dependencies that require the server or the client. The best > that is doable with the present portage is checking that the app is > compiled

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:53:43 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 27 November 2006 10:48, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sunday 26 November 2006 18:38, Marius Mauch wrote: > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:52:19 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 26 November 2006 18:38, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > is there a way in the new GLEP to say "never bother me with any > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:33:58 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In any event, what I'd like to raise is the issue of having a > > (semi-)official version of gentoo that lags behind the cutting-edge > > distro for stability. Is this feasible? > > > > Apologies if this is already being

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-26 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:03:08 -0500 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is used to mask the package, correct. When a package is masked, it > gives the output of the license, or, if the license it too large (I > think Marius set it at 20K) informs the user to read the license file. > I

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-26 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:07:21 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is there a way in the new GLEP to say "never bother me with any license > bullcrap" ? i made sure the current check_license() function respected the > idea of "*" so that i can put this in my make.conf: > ACCEPT_LICE

[gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-18 Thread Marius Mauch
$ Author: Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Status: Accepted Type: Standards Track Content-Type: text/x-rst Created: 9-Mar-2004 Post-History: 8-Mar-2004 10-Mar-2004 25-Oct-2004 18-Nov-2006 Abstract Currently, every ebuild in the portage tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME 1.x and GNOME 1.x dependent package masking

2006-11-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:55:00 +0200 Alin Nastac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > On Friday 10 November 2006 16:28, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 08:56 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > >> > >>> Ok

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME 1.x and GNOME 1.x dependent package masking

2006-11-09 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:10:37 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 03:23:42 + > Saleem Abdulrasool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Description: > >GNOME 1.x is no longer supported by upstream GNOME developers. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME 1.x and GNOME 1.x dependent package masking

2006-11-09 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 03:23:42 + Saleem Abdulrasool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Description: >GNOME 1.x is no longer supported by upstream GNOME developers. >Maintaining GNOME 1.x adds unnecessary complexity to the Gentoo GNOME >developers' workload. Some of the contributing factors

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:30:02 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > My compiles as a dev are of very minimal use to anybody except me. > > There are too many things that are specific to my systems. > > > Sure. Presumably you test packages with standard C-flags as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 02:23:02 -0800 David Shakaryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Wow. That's about the pettiest and least relevant thing you could ask > > them to discuss. Why not ask for a vote on what colour the soft > > icecream machine should be whilst you're at it? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] The (lack of) use of herds

2006-10-28 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:00:04 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 28 October 2006 22:43, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Well, I'd go further and question the whole herd concept. What > > benefits do we actually gain by having "herds"? For

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-28 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:09:10 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It doesn't cover updates/. I don't think that corner case is easily > covered. Ehm, if you have a list of CP entries that were added/removed and access to the update files it shouldn't be all that complicated. Just mad

Re: [gentoo-dev] The (lack of) use of herds

2006-10-28 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:46:30 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I request that this tag be made optional in the metadata.xml DTD. > > While ideally it is beneficial to have every package in a herd, in > practice this doesn't occur. > > 22:28 <@omp> $ herdstat -pq no-herd | wc -l > 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: RESTRICT=interactive

2006-10-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:51:50 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > It still doesn't make sense. Restricting any other feature > > disallows it. Restricting interaction allows it. Find a word that's > > the anto

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: license group file format

2006-10-26 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:43:56 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:50:01 -0500 > Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Marius Mauch wrote: [Thu Oct 26 2006, 12:02:59PM CDT] > > > Ok, as there is currently a lot of wor

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: license group file format

2006-10-26 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:50:01 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: [Thu Oct 26 2006, 12:02:59PM CDT] > > Ok, as there is currently a lot of work going on for GLEP 23 > > (licese based visibility filtering aka ACCEPT_LICENSE) the topic of >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is there a tool to manage USE flags? (use-config?)

2006-10-26 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:08:36 -0600 "m h" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Other than a text editor? > > I'd like to have a tool that can add USE flags on a per package or > global level. (I'm doing this in some build scripts and would prefer > just to have a tool, rather than sed or some other shell

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: license group file format

2006-10-26 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:15:56 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > Ok, as there is currently a lot of work going on for GLEP 23 > > (licese based visibility filtering aka ACCEPT_LICENSE) the topic of > > license groups came up, in

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: license group file format

2006-10-26 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:18:40 +0200 Harald van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 07:02:36PM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Ok, as there is currently a lot of work going on for GLEP 23 > > (licese based visibility filtering aka ACCEPT_LICENSE) the topic

[gentoo-dev] RFC: license group file format

2006-10-26 Thread Marius Mauch
Ok, as there is currently a lot of work going on for GLEP 23 (licese based visibility filtering aka ACCEPT_LICENSE) the topic of license groups came up, in particular the way how they should be (technically) defined. The simplest way is a line based format ... however this doesn't allow

Re: [gentoo-dev] mirroring distfiles/patches on patches.gentoo.org

2006-10-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:35:50 +0200 Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] I don't quite get the point of your mail ... Don't even know if it's a proposal, a complaint, a rant, a RFC, ... Marius -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Massive package.mask cleanup

2006-10-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:00:56 -0700 David Shakaryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems like you didn't understand exactly what I did. The masks I > removed are *ONLY* those which are masking a package or version that is > no longer in the tree. And what if that was a preventive mask? The assump

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Portage local package revisions

2006-10-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:39:26 -0700 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -r* is an ebuild convention; upstream (exemption of older daft portage > releases) doesn't use it, as such we define it; should define it as > simple as possible without castrating it's use. So to you having to unders

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Portage local package revisions

2006-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:40:45 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:35:06 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Still have the issue with the = operator though, not sure which way > | to go there: > > The = operator (

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Portage local package revisions

2006-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:31:31 -0700 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 02:27:19PM +, Philip Walls wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 02:34:08PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:51:19 + Philip Walls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:24:59 +0200 Tobias Scherbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think this is a fun way to build some team spirit. > > > > Thoughts? > > I think it's a *very* bad idea - both from a QA and a "team spirit" > point of view. > Instead of having such "commitfests" and bounties f

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.18 going stable in 1 week

2006-10-20 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:00:29 +0100 Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, baselayout 1.13 can use either GNU or BSD userland - hopefully one day > portage (or package manager of choice) can too :) Ehm, it does (or at least should do) already. Why else should we have all these `if userl

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per-package default USE flags

2006-10-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:40:59 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the profile level, I've added support for package.use > which behaves like /etc/portage/package.use that everyone is familiar > with. In a discussion about bug 151586 we realized that there might be an issue with profil

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per-package default USE flags

2006-10-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:40:59 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi everyone, > > I've written a patch for portage [1] that implements per-package > default USE flags at both the ebuild and profile levels (discussed a > couple of mont

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: RESTRICT=interactive

2006-10-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:00:05 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for the GLEP itself; I'd like to see some patches, particularly > for the resolver to show the restriction up front. Also a patch to > the ebuild.5 manpage for RESTRICT=interactive prior to seeing the > glep get approv

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is it time for bash-3?

2006-10-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:17:33 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > In that case adding >=bash-3 to "system" isn't sufficient. I'll > > leave the detailed explanation to Brian, but the only thing you can > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: RESTRICT=interactive

2006-10-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:10:33 +0200 Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Marius Mauch wrote: > > GLEP: 44 > > 44 or 52? Make up your mind :P The one on glep.gentoo.org has the right number. > > Titl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is it time for bash-3?

2006-10-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:50:36 +0200 Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Marius Mauch wrote: > > In that case adding >=bash-3 to "system" isn't sufficient. I'll > > leave the deta

[gentoo-dev] GLEP: RESTRICT=interactive

2006-10-13 Thread Marius Mauch
nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better. GLEP: 44 Title: RESTRICT=interactive Version: $Revision: 1.1 $ Last-Modified: $Date: 2005/12/06 03:34:21 $ Author: Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Status: Draft Type: Standar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is it time for bash-3?

2006-10-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:29:24 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:57:43 -0700 > > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Someone gave me a patch to mesa that uses bash-3 fe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is it time for bash-3?

2006-10-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:57:43 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone gave me a patch to mesa that uses bash-3 features, The package or the ebuild? Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per-package default USE flags

2006-10-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:57:58 +0200 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, if "pkgprofile" was stronger than "conf", then this dev could > have introduced the "xml" flag and added "pkg/foo -xml" in the base > profile. And the USE="xml" user would either have merged the pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Profile masking and profiles package.mask

2006-09-30 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 06:40:07 +0200 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a discussion to follow up bug #149508 [1]. > > The bug points to a behaviour change in handling of the profiles > file, that, in my opinion at least, needs to be discussed, as there > are profiles

[gentoo-dev] Notification about MD5 support

2006-09-21 Thread Marius Mauch
Ferringb recently told me that this info apparently wasn't mentioned explicit enough in Glep 44: Manifest2 records do not contain a MD5 checksum. The only guaranteed checksum type there is SHA1. So once manifest1 is phased out the tree will not contain MD5 checksums anymore. This is just a remind

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP updates

2006-09-21 Thread Marius Mauch
Sorry for the late reply, had some problem with my mail setup recently. On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:53:44 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks to atarus, I've updated a number of GLEPs: > > 40 (arch teams) Now marked Final > 44 (manifest2)Now marked Final I wouldn't consider

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:46:12 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:15:18 -0400 > > Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Marius Mauch wrote: > >>> On Thu,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:15:18 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:53:32 -0400 > > Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Lance Albertson wrote: > >>> I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:53:32 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: > > > > I thought of that while I was walking to a meeting..heh Basically, > > Appoint two people to co-lead, or appoint one Lead and one Vice > > Lead. That way there's some kind of accou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It has been noted that certain projects do not communicate their > activities well. > > Many projects provide documentation for things(java), provide status > updates on things(ppc), have bits in the gwn (x86,userrel,amd6

Re: [gentoo-dev] writing net.xx style init script

2006-08-20 Thread Marius Mauch
paul kölle schrieb: Hi all, I need to write an init-script for multiple instances of the same service with different configurations (need to start/stop them individually) similar to what the net.xx scripts do. I thought I could get the instance name from $0 and use it as a key to look up the co

Re: [gentoo-dev] User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-17 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:11:24 +0200 Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Thomas Cort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > You should look for existing tools which could be enhanced before > > suggesting a new one. `bugz post` (from www-client/pybugz) allows > > you to submit a new bug report f

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-13 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:01:41 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zac Medico wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Brian Harring wrote: > > > >>Said single inheritance protection was added 06/05/06 (rev 3544), > >>stabled for x86 roughly 06/22/06. > >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:26:44 +0200 Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Noack, Sebastian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > > Hey, come on. We're not Debian! Unnecessary and senseless > > splitting of packages is against the philosophy of Gentoo. > > I don't think "we are not xyz" i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:29:48 -0400 "Stephen P. Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:14:17 +0200 > > Sascha Geschwandtner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> So right now, I'd like to see "

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:14:17 +0200 Sascha Geschwandtner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So right now, I'd like to see "collision-protect sandbox strict" > included in the default FEATUREs. sandbox and strict are already default for a long time. Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg

Re: [gentoo-dev] atom matching behavior

2006-08-03 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:59:01 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:07:35 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | "* means match any version of the package so long as the > specified | base is matched&qu

[gentoo-dev] atom matching behavior

2006-08-02 Thread Marius Mauch
Repost from gentoo-portage-dev[1]: Was just brought to my attention that the =* operator doesn't work as I thought, as for example =foo-1.2* matches foo-1.20 as well as foo-1.2.3. This wouldn't be a bug problem if it could be used as a general glob operator like with =foo-1.2.*, but it's use is st

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:13:09 +0200 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Curtis Napier wrote: > > I could find a million threads in the forums supporting what Ciaran > > is saying here. We have been told over and over and over until my > > head feels bashed in that MMX/SSE, etc... are NOT TO

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing einfo with elog

2006-07-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 23:51:09 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A few minutes ago I committed the attached patch to > base/profile.bashrc so this is no longer an issue (for 2.0 users elog > is merely an alias to einfo). *sigh*, gotta get rid of this attachment-eating

[gentoo-dev] Replacing einfo with elog

2006-07-06 Thread Marius Mauch
For the impatient reader: Ebuilds should stop using einfo() for important messages and use elog() instead. Rationale: I assume most of you are already aware of the new elog framework in portage-2.1 for handling ebuild messages (like sending them by mail/syslog or just storing them for later review

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-05 Thread Marius Mauch
Zac Medico schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: Zac Medico schrieb: If a version of SRC_URI that has all the conditionals evaluated is needed in the ebuild environment, then I think we should use a new variable name. Otherwise, it's ambiguous. Do

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-05 Thread Marius Mauch
Zac Medico schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: When FEATURES=mirror, and you try to fetch, it does indeed contain unevaluated USE flags. However for FEATURES=-mirror, the content of it is correct - no USE flags at all. Are you sure about the SRC_URI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-04 Thread Marius Mauch
Patrick McLean schrieb: I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be made to create a source CD ISO when it is generating the binary one? Just make a cd with all the distfiles used in the ISO, and keep the source ISO with the binary one in /historical. Creating an ISO isn

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev-announce list

2006-06-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:30:31 -0500 Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > I propose that all need-to-know announcements and decisions be > > posted to a separate, moderated (or restricted posting) > > gentoo-dev-announce list to ensure that no developers lose tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Qt use flag recap

2006-06-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 07:56:00 -0400 (EDT) "Caleb Tennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose I'm not really big on one versus the other. I was for #1 > simply because it required the least amount of effort to implement, > however the people who are in favor of #2 have volunteered to do the > wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-06-20 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:18:54 -0600 Steve Dibb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > I don't mind the qt3/qt4 flags for packages that support both, but > > could we also have a qt flag that selects the "preferred" version > > (or for pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-06-20 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:29:10 +0200 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 20 June 2006 19:10, Joshua Jackson wrote: > > I don't want to go down the path again of having two nearly > > identical flags for a different slotted version of a framework. I'd > > like to see j

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:00:19 +0200 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 07:37 -0400, Caleb Tennis wrote: > > I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments to > > GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, > (Ab)using a blog for that mig

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.

2006-06-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 00:00:43 +0100 Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My current idea is to draw up a formal specification of what ebuilds > are allowed to do, and what to assume about the environment in which > they run, as well as defining the formats of everything under > profiles/, m

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (News) revisited

2006-06-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:26:18 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephen Bennett wrote: > > * Portage must provide a way for external programs to obtain a list > > of all repository identifiers for a given system. It is assumed > > that this will be in the form of a ``portageq`` command

Re: [gentoo-dev] backups: remove Portage cruft?

2006-06-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:06:01 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 03:41:56PM -0500, Mike Doty wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Molle Bestefich wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Portage takes up a lot of space and time when do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Stefan Schweizer schrieb: Marius Mauch wrote: On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:37:15 +0200 Markus Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay, so after figuring out open problems (thanks to kloeri and various other people for help here), we now have a resolution that should satisfy all involved p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:37:15 +0200 Markus Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, so after figuring out open problems (thanks to kloeri and > various other people for help here), we now have a resolution that > should satisfy all involved parties here. This should adress > dostrow's demands as

Re: [gentoo-dev] July Council Meeting: Requested Agenda Item

2006-06-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:00:43 +0200 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:37 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > > Have the GWN posted to -core in a sane time period prior to it's > > release. I seriously doubt anyone cares about whether the > > publication is always "on tim

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] i18n project

2006-06-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:11:50 +0200 Jan Kundrát <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > b) Localization of Gentoo-developed applications (portage, > gentoolkit,...) including their manpages I don't really like this one. Documentation, sure, but for the tools themselves I think it could cause more problems th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Glep 49 (g2boojum's version)

2006-06-02 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:17:06 + Ferris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grant, > Apologies; I can't find your note from yesterday, so I can't respond > to the correct topic. > One question just occurred to me; if it's been addressed before, > apologies about that, too. Your requireme

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2006-06-01 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:00:13 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul de Vrieze wrote: [Thu Jun 01 2006, 02:44:39PM CDT] > > I would like the council to discuss GLEP 49 as has been discussed on > > the list some weeks ago. It is about the package manager > > requirements. > > Inciden

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 20 May 2006 15:41:37 +0100 Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The primary package manager is the package manager that sets the > > standards for the tree. All ebuilds in the tree must function > > with the primary package manager. As the primary package manager > > se

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 19 May 2006 19:27:18 +0200 Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also I would want to have it in the stable branch anyway because of > bugreports by first-time users who do not use the latest version of > portage. It is better to add it now while in pre-release phase than > after t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-19 Thread Marius Mauch
Disclaimer: I'll only targeting technical aspects here, I won't go into any security analysis. On Thu, 18 May 2006 23:45:17 +0200 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3) Manifest / Manifest2 > > This is an implementation of a checksum / signature scheme. It is > described in GLEP 44: > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 19 May 2006 12:28:04 -0400 Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who signs the Manifests? Why are some unsigned? Is there a single > Gentoo Security Key (like I know Slackware has and some other distros > to ensure the authenticity of their files)? Because the whole signing stuff isn't offic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 19 May 2006 15:13:48 +0200 Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marc Hildebrand wrote: > > Otoh LC_ALL=C could help if you intend to use a .utf-8 locale as > > root, though. So if it does help solving bugs and causes no > > trouble, why not. > > > ok, we have prepared a patch no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 19 May 2006 15:13:15 +0100 "Chris Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > find /usr/portage -path '/usr/portage/metadata' -prune -o -path > '/usr/portage/distfiles' -prune -o -path '/usr/portage/packages' > -prune -o -type f -exec cat {} > /tmp/blah \; > time gpg --detach-sign -a /tmp/bla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 18 May 2006 11:44:40 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > | 4) Will Paludis ever become a Gentoo Project? > > > > Pretty unlikely, past events considered. Personally I kind of like > > having commit access to my own code... > > I thought we (Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 16 May 2006 16:15:49 +0100 Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If noone has any strong reasonable objections, I'd like to add a > Paludis profile to the tree. This would use Paludis as the default > provider for virtual/portage (which is a less than ideal name, but > that is anoth

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 04 May 2006 16:29:56 -0700 Michael Kirkland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would suggest opening a middle ground tag, where things can be > moved to from "~arch" when they work for reasonable configuration > values, but still have open bugs for some people. More work for devs, yay! Mariu

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Marius Mauch
Jakub Moc schrieb: Well, it should not be loaded first of all... Hence why I want to have an ability to turn off the coldplug thing *completely* on udev level. I don't have any use for such automagic stuff, it just complicates things instead of making them easier. Well said. Marius -- gentoo-d

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