Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:07:44AM -0700, kashani wrote: > Another technique is to change high transaction tables to Innodb > table format. Innodb is going to be roughly 30% slower than MyISAM for > selects and take up much more space on disk approx 3-5x larger. However it > has row

Re: [gentoo-dev] PDA herd call for assistance

2006-08-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 05:31:27PM +0900, Chris White wrote: > The PDA herd is pretty slim right now and the only active members are > really liquidx and myself. That said I'm looking around for people > that can help with confirmations/patches/etc. for app-pda packages. > Plans are to hopefully p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:30:20PM +0100, Luis Medinas wrote: > I'm the current maintainer for xmms and all plugins. As you all know > xmms is writen over GTK+-1. This toolkit is not supported by the > upstream like xmms. We have lot's of dead upstream plugins on portage > and this is a pain to mai

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for September

2006-09-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 05:51:07AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote: > This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the > 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! Is this the new council for which the voting should have just ended, or th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe

2006-09-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 08:55:33AM -0500, Mike Doty wrote: > If that's not good enough for you, please find a distribution that you > have to pay for like RHEL. Their testing is no better than ours, but > at least paying something entitles you to bitch at them. Or consider paying a Gentoo develope

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Package Manager Specification: configuration protection

2006-09-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 04:02:53PM -0700, Chris White wrote: > On Monday 11 September 2006 15:22, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > * Otherwise, try again with ``._cfg0001_name``, then ``._cfg0002_name`` and > > so on (base ten is used for the number part) until a usable filename is > > found. > For wha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Orphaned packages

2006-09-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 08:00:48PM +0100, Gustavo Felisberto wrote: > x11-themes/gkrellm-themes I'll take these if nobody else wants 'em. -- Robin Hugh Johnson E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 pgpllQF1F98x7.pgp Description: PGP signa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-09-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 03:48:53PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > Lionel Bouton wrote: > > There are already good resources (http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS_matrix > > was mentioned to me by robbat2) but they may not be advertised enough. > Most of the info on that page is wrong. The items on there that n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-09-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 04:37:05PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > I thought he wanted flags that broke upgrading between GCC 3.4 and 4.1. > tree-loop-linear wasn't in 3.4. If you want flags that just break > stuff with 4.1 you can include -ftree-vectorize. Thanks. > > The objective here was mainly to

Re: [gentoo-dev] LAMP Server beauty contest: server monitoring

2006-10-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:41:08PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > Please reply to the list naming your favourite tool for this job, and why. Ok, something is not clear here at all. Do you intend to provide all statistics via SNMPd (writing agents to provide the data that net-snmp doesn't provide d

[gentoo-dev] SCHEDULED DOWNTIME: {cvs,svn}.gentoo.org - 2006-10-05 - 1900UTC - 2300UTC

2006-10-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Hi, Pylon and I will be doing some maintenance on CVS and Subversion later this week. Thursday, October 5th, starting at 1900 UTC. During this time, CVS and Subversion will not be available. We're estimating a worst case of 4 hours at this point, but if everything goes smoothly, it should be les

Re: [gentoo-dev] SCHEDULED DOWNTIME: {cvs,svn}.gentoo.org - 2006-10-05 - 1900UTC - 2300UTC - SERVICE UP AGAIN

2006-10-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 01:30:43PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > We're estimating a worst case of 4 hours at this point, but if > everything goes smoothly, it should be less than 2 hours. All work completed - CVS and SVN are back online again. Took 1 hour 51 minutes. If you see any

[gentoo-dev] NEW SCHEDULED DOWNTIME: {cvs,svn}.gentoo.org - 2006-10-06 - 1900UTC - 2100UTC

2006-10-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 01:55:17PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 01:30:43PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > We're estimating a worst case of 4 hours at this point, but if > > everything goes smoothly, it should be less than 2 hours. > All work

[gentoo-dev] COMPLETED DOWNTIME: {cvs,svn}.gentoo.org - 2006-10-06 - 1900UTC - 2100UTC

2006-10-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 04:09:18PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 01:55:17PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 01:30:43PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > > We're estimating a worst case of 4 hours at this point, but i

[gentoo-dev] Seeking the missing dates that past and present developers joined Gentoo.

2006-10-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
I've been working on getting together the tree-signing work, as a set of GLEPs, and as part of doing so, I've been digging into all of the archives I can find, and seeing just how many times the same good and bad ideas have been brought up. The earliest mention of Manifest signing is May 2002 so fa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resurrecting "Project Dolphin"

2006-10-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:59:24PM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > > Hello folks, > > > > it's been a while since I stepped back as a Gentoo-developer (about 1 1/4 > > years) and in that time I did exactly zero. > > Good news to see you back in action, Benni! :) > > > I hereby request every p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resurrecting "Project Dolphin"

2006-10-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 12:20:05AM +0200, Benjamin Judas wrote: > Yes, but this would be a bit too small. Currently I am at 156MB (some > applications suggested here already included). > > It could be a target for future development to create something like > a "minimal" release. I would have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Mike Doty wrote: > Just a random thought that popped into my head: > > We could have a commit fest where everyone who wants to compete kicks in > some small amount of money(say $5) maybe the foundation kicks in a > little something too. Then the person wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Jurek Bartuszek (jurek)

2006-10-22 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 11:13:34PM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce to you Jurek "jurek" Bartuszek. He is > joining is to help with the dotnet packages. He lists Windows API and > linux kernel programming among his many talents. I wonder how well those > two get along :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Dreaded herd tag

2006-10-27 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 08:11:37AM +0200, George Shapovalov wrote: > One of the reasons herds were introduced was to explicitly see what packages > lack maintenance. It is possible for the ebuild to be in the herd, but be > supported by the developer not on the herd. See the tag. Also, there >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Only you can prevent broken portage trees

2006-10-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 07:49:22PM -0700, Jason Wever wrote: > Please triple check what you want to commit and verify that you don't do > any of the following (which are punishable by death): > > 1) remove the last ebuild that is keyworded for a given arch, especially >when resulting in broke

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 08:47:52AM +, Steve Long wrote: > As to why I don't just do it myself, I think it's a bit silly to duplicate > the > compile that devs do anyway. My compiles as a dev are of very minimal use to anybody except me. There are too many things that are specific to my system

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 09:20:02PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:04:18 + "Elfyn McBratney" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | I guess Wernfried is referring to Ciaran PGP signing his emails with a > | key that (I guess) still has his old @g.o address as a user ID on the >

[gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Anonymous CVS and SVN now available

2006-11-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
All- KingTaco and I are pleased to announce that we've completed setting up and testing the anonymous read-only CVS and SVN services for Gentoo repositories, and that they are now available for use. The anonymous services are primarily intended help our non-dev contributors easily produce patches

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Anonymous CVS and SVN now available

2006-11-12 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 10:33:00PM -0500, Michael Cummings wrote: > On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 02:54:01AM -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > svn has the following repos: > > gli glsr devmanual sandbox baselayout > > eselect apache livecd-tools hardened linux-patches > &

[gentoo-dev] bugstest.gentoo.org - public beta for the new Gentoo BugZilla - please test!

2006-11-16 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Hi everybody, Over in infra, some of us have been working hard (see also the recent anonymous CVS and SVN services), and we're now ready for public testing on another milestone... The shiny new bugstest.gentoo.org! We're opening it up for all testers as of this email. It is current up the 14th of

Re: [gentoo-dev] local use flag cleanup

2006-11-21 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 08:53:10PM -0700, Steve Dibb wrote: > dba - Enables dbm-compatible layers > dio - Adds direct i/o support > ingres - Adds support for Ingres database > msession - Adds support for msession daemon These are still in use! See the php eclasses! > gb - Adds support for Gnome Ba

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] [treequake] virtual/mysql addition

2006-11-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 08:12:01AM -0800, Mike Doty wrote: > Francesco Riosa wrote: > >After irc conversation also "dev-db/mysql-client" will NOT be added, we > >stick with USE="minimal". The default for the "virtual/mysql" will be > >"dev-db/mysql-community" > D'oh, I would have liked to have a se

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] [treequake] virtual/mysql addition

2006-11-27 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 02:50:43AM +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > Two things I'm always wondering about when this topic comes up: > - is there really a need for USE=client? In most cases people request > to exclude the server part, can't remember ever seeing a request to > exclude the client. I can't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] [treequake] virtual/mysql addition

2006-11-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 10:38:10PM -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote: > >I can't find the bug right now, but this did pop up where the client was > >a GUI app, and they wanted to get away from needing all the dependencies > >it pulled in that way. > Would controlling building of the client via a flag such as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-misc/cidr

2006-12-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 02:52:50PM +1100, Andrew Ross wrote: > It's always nice to suggest a replacement - I use net-misc/whatmask :-) net-misc/aggregate and net-misc/aggregate-flim are a pair that I find useful in the same vein. -- Robin Hugh Johnson E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 1

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-10 23:59 UTC

2006-12-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
(This is the first-ever report, feedback is appreciated. Thanks to antarus for writing the core of the script. It tracks actions on ChangeLog files in the CVS history file to see what happens in the tree. This email will ideally go out around 01h00 every Monday morning, in time for each week's GWN.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] IMPORTANT: CVS/mastermirror downtime

2006-12-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 09:36:51AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > So when the shit hits the fan, it *really* hits the fan... Ok folks, both machines are back! You can resume your commits. Many thanks to: nnewton [of OSL] - for running between his workstation and the machines, switching

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23:59 UTC

2006-12-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23h59 UTC. Removals: games-fps/ut2004-domain2049 2006-12-12 15:46:17 wolf31o2 dev-db/dbbalancer 2006-12-17 08:57:15 dev-zero Additions: sci-biology/amap

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23:59 UTC

2006-12-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 11:20:38PM -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed > from the tree, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23h59 UTC. ... > Removals: > x11-wm/qvwm 2006-12-04 06:40:02 omp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23:59 UTC

2006-12-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:02:00AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 23:20 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed > > from the tree, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23h59 UTC. > OK. Here&#x

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23:59 UTC

2006-12-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:33:59AM -0600, Yuri Vasilevski wrote: > I think it should also include the Homepage(s) and Description of the > packages so readers could easily check what that additions are all > about. While I'm not that sure that additions date and probably who > made the addition are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23:59 UTC

2006-12-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 02:53:56PM -0600, Yuri Vasilevski wrote: > This will make the script a little bit slower, but it should not be > that hard to integrate. Please read the message that I sent as well. In specific, there is NO way we can gaurentee that the machine has an up to date copy of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] bugstest.gentoo.org - public beta for the new Gentoo BugZilla - please test!

2006-12-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 01:42:40AM -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > This testing period will last for 2-4 weeks, depending on how stable the > setup of bugstest turns out to be. Then we can hopefully roll out the > new Bugzilla for production use in time for Christmas! Hi Everybody, I&

Re: [gentoo-dev] bugstest.gentoo.org - public beta for the new Gentoo BugZilla - please test!

2006-12-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 09:39:20AM -0600, Mike Bonar wrote: > If everyone's Login ID is their email address, may I suggest changing > 'Login:' to 'E-mail:'? I usually try 2 or 3 wrong ID's before recalling > that my ID is my email address. Done. -- Robin Hugh Johnson E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTEC

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-24 23:59 UTC

2006-12-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2006-12-24 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-proxy/dansguardian-dgav 2006-12-19 18:26:08 mrness x11-misc/emerald-themes 2006-12-20 01:00:59 tsunam de

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-31 23:59 UTC

2007-01-03 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2006-12-31 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-misc/cidr 2006-12-25 13:16:43 beu dev-util/mergetrees 2006-12-25 13:19:18 beu dev-java/kunststoff-bin 2006-12-

[gentoo-dev] bugs.gentoo.org migration - finally! - tentatively scheduled for 6th Jan 2007, 02h00 - 05h00 UTC

2007-01-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The day has finally come, and we're ready to do the final migration of Bugzilla to the new hardware. This is tentatively scheduled to start at 02h00 UTC on 6th January 2007. I am estimating 3 hours for all of it, but I hope to have it done is less than that. Keep an eye on the #gentoo-dev topic f

[gentoo-dev] bugs.gentoo.org migration - completed!

2007-01-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 02:54:24PM -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > This is tentatively scheduled to start at 02h00 UTC on 6th January 2007. > I am estimating 3 hours for all of it, but I hope to have it done is > less than that. And we're done! Some delays were experienced gettin

[gentoo-dev] bugs.gentoo.org migration - completed!

2007-01-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Another note, there were 97 emails that had gotten queued up in Bugzilla, and never sent, but they are flushed out now, so a few people will see some emails dating back as far as Feb 2006 coming out. -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-01-07 23:59 UTC

2007-01-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-01-07 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-ftp/kbear 2007-01-01 20:53:14 masterdriverz sys-kernel/systrace-sources 2007-01-02 11:30:20 lcars net-p2p/gtkh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentle reminder about ChangeLog entries on profiles

2007-01-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 08:27:50AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Most of the profiles under default-linux have a ChangeLog at the > architecture level. If you make *any* changes to a profile, you should > be putting your changes in the ChangeLog. Just wondering, any objections if we add ChangeL

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentle reminder about ChangeLog entries on profiles

2007-01-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 03:43:31PM -0800, Ned Ludd wrote: > No objections. TBH we don't really have to edit those profiles often. > We/I try to keep them as static as possible. When they do change it's > usually cuz somebody has some brilliant idea for some non linux which > forces all other pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:04:31PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Robin Johnson came up with a good example, which was "genflags" an > application that was to gather information from the running system and > spit out a customized set of C(XX)FLAGS for the user. I should clarify, that genflags was

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Some sync control

2007-01-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
may exist, and should not interfere with the file. Example entry: == Entry-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:45:23 + Start-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:00:00 + Completion-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:00:00 + Signed-off-By: Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: http://artic

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Some sync control

2007-01-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:49:43PM +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: > Piotr Jaroszy??ski wrote: > >What do you think? > I think it would be much nicer to have a VCS with support for atomic > commits. I agre, from multiple points of view including those of 1. developer who has broken stuff with epkgmov

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Some sync control

2007-01-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:51:43PM -0500, Seemant Kulleen wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 14:08 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > However, for several reasons this is not yet feasible, and furthermore > Just for the sake of completeness can you outline those reasons? I'm not sayin

[gentoo-dev] Council Meeting Log and Summary for 11th January 2006

2007-01-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
See attached. -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 Summary of the Gentoo Council meeting held 11 January 2006 -- (Summary prepared by robb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Meeting Log and Summary for 11th January 2006

2007-01-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 07:17:41PM -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > See attached. And I need to look at my calendar again, it's 2007 now and not 2006. -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3

Re: [gentoo-dev] Abusing RESTRICT={no,}userpriv (was [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT)

2007-01-12 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 10:46:36PM +, Stephen Bennett wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 00:53 +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > > They have to be able to read /usr/games/lib. > In which case adding the portage user to the games group seems overall > to be a better solution than requiring root priv

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-01-14 23h59 UTC

2007-01-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-01-14 23h59 UTC. Removals: www-apache/mod_csv 2007-01-08 00:12:31 chtekk media-video/vlms2007-01-08 13:47:07 zzam media-video/vls

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Some sync control

2007-01-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 09:03:59AM +0100, Markus Ullmann wrote: > >1. Git currently requires you to check out the whole repository. > > This includes *all of the history*. > >2. Git cannot update portions of the repository, it can only update > > the entire thing. > > This was one of the big r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Some sync control

2007-01-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 08:38:34AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | The other points were valid, but if it works anything like Gentoo, I > | think this is BS. Sure, everyone commits to the same tree, but not to > | the same lines of the same file. Unless all they do over in BSD-land > | is globa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Some sync control

2007-01-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 09:14:41AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | You get conflicts with CVS already in that case, it's not going to > | increase the number of conflicts in any way. > Except that with CVS, you just update that one directory, which isn't > particularly painful even for all the ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Some sync control

2007-01-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 12:09:30AM +0100, R?mi Cardona wrote: > Because atomic commits don't exist in CVS, the scripts rely on > commit/modification dates to recreate atomic commits in svn/git. > Unfortunately, in some not-so-rare cases, it can definitely mess things > up, and Gnome folks took abou

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-01-21 23h59 UTC

2007-01-21 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-01-21 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-p2p/xmule 2007-01-15 11:33:32 opfer www-apache/mod_survey 2007-01-15 20:36:49 chtekk app-admin/empower

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-01-28 23h59 UTC

2007-01-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-01-28 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-misc/bcm44002007-01-23 21:50:22 dsd dev-lang/cm32007-01-24 04:49:16 vapier sys-apps/pcsc-ase-iii

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-02-04 23h59 UTC

2007-02-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-02-04 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-www/gplflash2007-01-31 10:36:07 armin76 media-video/dxr2-driver 2007-02-01 03:12:04 beandog net-analyzer/zodiac

[gentoo-dev] Removing versions of

2007-02-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Heya, I'd like to do a cleanup of sys-auth/nss_ldap, but it has had a very checkered past with regards to upstream breaking things badly hence the current strange set of versions in the tree (239,249,250,252,253). At present >=253* should resolve all known issues, but I'd like anybody that has ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removing versions of

2007-02-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 07:08:04AM +0100, Alexander F??r??y wrote: > > Also, MIPS herd: please compile-test and mark 253 stable - you are the > > > The MIPS team has just package masked this package after we USE masked ldap. > > So this is not really on our TODO-ASAP list. Thanks, so previous stab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 11:09:11PM +, Roy Marples wrote: > On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:14:49 + > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why? What's wrong with requiring a shell that supports various > > features beyond what POSIX specifies? Granted, choice of shell is > > good, but not if

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-02-11 23h59 UTC

2007-02-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-02-11 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-emacs/gnuplot-mode 2007-02-05 07:14:16 opfer dev-ada/adabroker 2007-02-05 11:03:57 george dev-games/cel-cvs

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-02-18 23h59 UTC

2007-02-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-02-18 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-p2p/teknap 2007-02-12 12:00:10 armin76 app-emacs/w32007-02-12 19:46:03 opfer app-emacs/weather

[gentoo-dev] CVS/SVN Migration, downtime Friday 23 Feb, 07h00-09h00 UTC

2007-02-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Hi folks, We'll be migrating to some new hardware for cvs.gentoo.org later this week. I am making a worst-case estimate that the migration will take two hours, but if everything goes right, it should take much less. CVS and SVN on the old machine (lark) will stop accepting commits at Friday morni

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 Transition -- remaining packages

2007-02-22 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 11:42:58AM +0100, Markus Ullmann wrote: > So after peper and myself have been on fixing most stuff related to this > topic yesterday, here now is a list with remaining packages and their > respective maintainers. > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~jokey/manifest2/manifest2-20070222

[gentoo-dev] CVS/SVN migration completed

2007-02-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 05:05:23AM -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Status updates will be posted to the topic of #gentoo-dev as per previous > migrations. Ok, ow, that was painful. But it's all done now after 5.5 hours of work, with a few cleanups pending. If you have commit notific

[gentoo-dev] Retirement plans for =net-nds/openldap-2.{1,2}*

2007-02-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Hi, This is an announcement that =net-nds/openldap-2.1* is going into p.mask now, and will be removed in 30 days. It contains security vulnerabilities that have been fixed in new major versions from upstream, and upstream no longer provides support for it. In the same vein, =net-nds/openldap-2.2*

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement plans for =net-nds/openldap-2.{1,2}*

2007-02-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 03:23:28AM -0800, Josh Saddler wrote: > Er. Granted, they're out of date, because we don't have anyone who knows > ldap (and gongloo never showed up with a promised rewrite), but all of > our documentation seems to be geared toward openldap-2.1 or so. > > http://www.gentoo.

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-02-25 23h59 UTC

2007-02-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-02-25 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-lang/tolua 2007-02-19 23:34:16 mabi dev-lang/lua-wrapper2007-02-20 00:00:41 mabi media-video/nvidia-freebsd 2007-0

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-02-25 23h59 UTC

2007-02-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Something is wrong with this list (there are some other removals I know took place that do not seem to be listed). Please ignore while I trace why. On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:15:01AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed >

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-02-25 23h59 UTC

2007-02-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-02-25 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-lang/tolua 2007-02-19 23:34:16 mabi dev-lang/lua-wrapper2007-02-20 00:00:41 mabi media-video/nvidia-freebsd 2007-0

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-02-25 23h59 UTC

2007-02-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:34:32PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 18:09 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > Something is wrong with this list (there are some other removals I know > > took place that do not seem to be listed). > > > > Please ignor

Re: [gentoo-dev] add bzip2/zlib to default USE in default-linux

2007-02-26 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:46:40AM -0600, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > Luca Barbato wrote: > >T?th Csaba wrote: > >>hal cannot install when one dependencie built with zlib USE flag.. > >> > > > >Hal should be fixed then... > > > >lu > > > We've already been arguing about this on the bug, can we plea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages requiring explicit db versions?

2007-02-27 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 03:45:52PM -0500, Caleb Tennis wrote: > I'm hoping to advocate some more cleanups in sys-libs/db by proposing the > removal of > 4.0.* and 4.1.* from portage. 4.2 has been stable for a long time, with 4.3 > unstable and 4.4 and 4.5 available in package.mask. There is one u

Re: [gentoo-dev] more up to date minimal install cd

2007-03-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:49:25AM +0100, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > I was wondering what is keeping us from releasing a minimal install cd more > often than we do now. > Isn't almost everything needed for it already in the stable tree and thus > tested? And if so isn't > it possible to ful

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-03-04 23h59 UTC

2007-03-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-03-04 23h59 UTC. Removals: sys-devel/gcc-compat2007-02-26 01:35:38 vapier net-misc/nxserver-business 2007-02-26 22:34:19 genstef net-misc/nxserver

Re: [gentoo-dev] Client-serve flags (again ;) (was Re: New eclass: gkrellm-plugin)

2007-03-09 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 12:56:51AM +0100, Thomas R?sner wrote: > I can understand that rationale for the client part, but which packages > would depend on the server part of e.g. MySQL if they could? > And building the server part to get the small client lib is a larger > PITA than building the c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Client-serve flags (again ;) (was Re: New eclass: gkrellm-plugin)

2007-03-10 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 03:11:02PM +0100, Thomas R?sner wrote: > Yes and no. The same applies to Postgres, and still they provide the > libs in an extra package. It just makes sense, how much of that 20M > mysql tarball is used by the client? It's like you'd have to dl apache > (four times) to g

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-03-11 23h59 UTC

2007-03-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-03-11 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-ruby/ruby-gtk 2007-03-05 06:19:15 tester x11-themes/qtcurve 2007-03-05 15:57:50 beandog net-libs/gecko-sdk 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:09:53PM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: > * Can we find a better name than "the Proctors", please? > Yes, that's a completely petty point, but it was the first > one that came to mind. Suggestions welcome. We were stuck for other suitable names, and it was my own suggest

[gentoo-dev] Summary for 15 March 2007 special council meeting on CoC

2007-03-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
* wolf31o2 posted a temporary version to his devspace, containing suggestions and clarifications from the Q&A session. * vapier has some further modifications, including: - dropping the all caps to regular case text (accepted) - rewording of wanting everybody to be ready to apologize to rather

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Summary for 15 March 2007 special council meeting on CoC

2007-03-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 04:35:00AM +, Duncan wrote: > * "If you perceive a breach of the Code of Conduct guidelines, let the > proctors know." How? The council's email address is given for appeals, > but no general proctor address is listed. (At least none that I saw, even > after searchin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Summary for 15 March 2007 special council meeting on CoC

2007-03-16 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:28:10AM +, Duncan wrote: > > I think you missed one thing. From the council page: "Only Gentoo > > developers may be nominated" Thus your corner-case of a moderator that > > does nothing else wanting to become a council member is not valid, > > because the moderator i

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-03-18 23h59 UTC

2007-03-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-03-18 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-p2p/mnet2007-03-13 11:48:29 armin76 games-fps/quake12007-03-14 02:16:29 mr_bones_ games-fps/ttyq

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-03-25 23h59 UTC

2007-03-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-03-25 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-portage/emool 2007-03-19 10:17:22 blubb www-client/mozilla 2007-03-19 10:25:35 armin76 www-client/mozilla

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-04-01 23h59 UTC

2007-04-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-04-01 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-tv/rivatv 2007-03-26 05:02:39 mr_bones_ x11-plugins/gkrellm-console 2007-03-26 15:57:27 lack x11-plugins/gkrellm-logwatch2

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-04-08 23h59 UTC

2007-04-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-04-08 23h59 UTC. Removals: games-board/pysol-cardsets 2007-04-02 19:31:27 tupone net-news/hellanzb 2007-04-05 18:37:26 aballier x11-misc/klineakconfig

Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

2007-04-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
I'm one of the folks on the base-system alias already, but here's the key stuff that I interact with, and some other related notes. Put me down for the following: > sys-process/supervise-scripts > sys-apps/smartmontools > sys-apps/sg3_utils > sys-apps/dmidecode > sys-apps/ethtool > sys-apps/microc

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-10 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 07:03:45PM -0400, Michael Cummings wrote: > So, fellow devs, what's new with development? Over in the council, we've been doing some status updates of this similar nature, mainly so we all know where we are at (for all the core things that each of the council members are doi

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:19:11AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > - GLEP on bug-wrangling process (nailing down the good and the bad of what > > our wranglers like Jakub are doing, so would-be wranglers can have a > > good idea of what to do).

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 03:06:44PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > which doesnt apply here ... some packages have ridiculous awesome coverage > for > their source code and take much longer to run than even compile the package Furthermore, there are packages with testcases where if you want them, y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:32:12AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: > Fabian Groffen wrote: > > This GLEP has been laying around for some long time now in my gleps dir. > > I nearly forgot about it. Anyway, feedback is appreciated. Grobian: can you please resend your message to the list? This is the se

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:47:12AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > Because I don't have it either, luckily there is GMane: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/48017 > ive found hooking up my NNTP client to GMane and downloading missed e-mails > from there works quite well > > if

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-04-15 23h59 UTC

2007-04-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-04-15 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-python/snmpy2007-04-09 07:30:27 dev-zero net-misc/e100 2007-04-09 10:36:12 armin76 www-misc/pglogd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-16 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 07:50:58AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 05:41 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > Anybody that feels like inspecting C code, look at mlmmj-1.2.14/src. > > getaddrsfromfd.c:27 - this mmap fails, 'Could not mmap fd: Invalid argume

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