[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:47:50 -0500 as excerpted: > Just to add two cents worth. I rarely, very rarely, go to the > "unofficial" Gentoo wiki. To put it simply, its not supported by the > Gentoo organization itself. When it comes to my system, I want people > that I know use Gentoo an

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Duncan
George Prowse posted on Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:13:31 +0100 as excerpted: > If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think you are > wrong. Gentoo knows about the unofficial wiki and knows it's mission is > to help Gentoo and not to hinder it. Gentoo hardly makes a habit of > Apple-like li

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Dale
Ben de Groot wrote: On 12 April 2010 15:22, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:49, George Prowse wrote: On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowsewrote: [...] If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Ben de Groot
On 12 April 2010 15:22, Arun Raghavan wrote: > On 12 April 2010 18:49, George Prowse wrote: >> On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: >>> >>> On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowse  wrote: >>> [...] If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think you are wrong. Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread George Prowse
On 12/04/2010 14:22, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:49, George Prowse wrote: On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowsewrote: [...] If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think you are wrong. Gentoo knows about the unofficial

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 12 April 2010 18:49, George Prowse wrote: > On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: >> >> On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowse  wrote: >> [...] >>> >>> If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think you are wrong. >>> Gentoo knows about the unofficial wiki and knows it's mission

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread George Prowse
On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowse wrote: [...] If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think you are wrong. Gentoo knows about the unofficial wiki and knows it's mission is to help Gentoo and not to hinder it. Gentoo hardly makes a habi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowse wrote: [...] > If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think you are wrong. > Gentoo knows about the unofficial wiki and knows it's mission is to help > Gentoo and not to hinder it. Gentoo hardly makes a habit of Apple-like > litigation when tryin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread George Prowse
On 12/04/2010 12:32, Ben de Groot wrote: On 12 April 2010 12:28, Roy Bamford wrote: Last time I looked, his about page complies with our trade mark requirements. But ONLY his about page. Our name and logo guidelines state this needs to happen on each page: the website clearly states, on ea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Ben de Groot
On 12 April 2010 12:28, Roy Bamford wrote: > > Last time I looked, his about page complies with our trade mark > requirements. But ONLY his about page. Our name and logo guidelines state this needs to happen on each page: > the website clearly states, on each page, that the project is no officia

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2010.04.09 07:34, Duncan wrote: > Patrick Nagel posted on Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:42:40 +0800 as excerpted: [snip] > Likewise, Gentoo's uncomfortable officially linking to something they > don't control in any way, shape, or form (except to the extent that > we could arguably pull his domain name

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Mike Pagano
Here's one possible use-case. For me, I would consider moving http://dev.gentoo.org/~mpagano/genpatches/index.htm to the official wiki so that other people in the kernel herd can update it. If the updating could be scripted, of course. I would not have considered it for an unofficial wiki runn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
Allen, if you don't have anything constructive to add, then please refrain from adding to this thread. Thanks, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Qt project lead developer Gentoo Wiki project lead

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread George Prowse
On 09/04/2010 18:24, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 06:02:40PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaine wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread AllenJB
On 09/04/10 18:24, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > Really? I understood it as the wiki being an all-purposes wiki, meaning users > could (would and should) create articles on how to get some application > running or how to get some setting working, and the developers will have > their own "sectio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 06:02:40PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: > On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: > > On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaine wrote: > >> There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my > >> knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread George Prowse
On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaine wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. My feeling i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 9 April 2010 14:35, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: >> See? This is the problem. Every time comes an initiative to introduce >> official >> Gentoo infra hosted Gentoo Wiki (yes, the one that won't loose randomly all >> its contents) - there's lack

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
On 9 April 2010 14:35, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > See? This is the problem. Every time comes an initiative to introduce official > Gentoo infra hosted Gentoo Wiki (yes, the one that won't loose randomly all > its contents) - there's lack of interest of cooperation from already existing > unofficial

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaine wrote: > There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my > knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a > Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. > > My feeling is that Gentoo Wiki Project is just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Friday 09 of April 2010 13:26:16 Guy Fontaine wrote: > There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my > knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a > Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. > > My feeling is that Gentoo Wiki Proje

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Guy Fontaine
re many Gentoo experts that don't want to be officially devs. > > d2_racing > > > > To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org > > From: dirtye...@gentoo.org > > Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project > > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:55:36 -0600 > > &

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Duncan
Patrick Nagel posted on Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:42:40 +0800 as excerpted: > On 2010-04-08 19:51 UTC Ryan Hill wrote: >> >> why are we setting up a user wiki when a very popular one already >> exists? it seems like a complete duplication of effort. i'm not saying >> don't do it, i'm just baffled why

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Patrick Nagel
Hi, On 2010-04-08 19:51 UTC Ryan Hill wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:12:49 +0200 > > Ben de Groot wrote: > > After the mostly positive feedback on the recent wiki discussion, we > > have now gone ahead, formed a preliminary team consisting of both > > users and developers, and put up a project p

RE: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Sylvain Alain
gt; Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:55:36 -0600 > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:37:46 + > Sylvain Alain wrote: > > > > > The official wiki can be use by powerusers who want to write some pretty > > good doc. > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:37:46 + Sylvain Alain wrote: > > The official wiki can be use by powerusers who want to write some pretty good > doc. > > A lot of powerusers can write excellent doc on the gentoo forum right now, so > they don't need to by Gentoo Dev to right excellent stuff. > > I

RE: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Sylvain Alain
oo.org > From: dirtye...@gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:56:04 -0600 > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:13:07 +0200 > Ben de Groot wrote: > > > On 8 April 2010 21:51, Ryan Hill wrote: > > > why are we setting up a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:13:07 +0200 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 8 April 2010 21:51, Ryan Hill wrote: > > why are we setting up a user wiki when a very popular one already exists? > > Because some devs request things like this: > > > can we can lock certain pages down to dev edits only? > > In our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Ben de Groot
On 8 April 2010 21:51, Ryan Hill wrote: > why are we setting up a user wiki when a very popular one already exists? Because some devs request things like this: > can we can lock certain pages down to dev edits only? In our wiki we will be able to. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Qt project lea

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:12:49 +0200 Ben de Groot wrote: > After the mostly positive feedback on the recent wiki discussion, we > have now gone ahead, formed a preliminary team consisting of both > users and developers, and put up a project page [1]. All constructive > feedback on this new project i