On Thu, 07 May 2020 09:29:36 +0200
Michał Górny wrote:
> For example, if OCaml bindings on some package are broken and require
> a lot of work, I would find useful to know how likely it is that anyone
> is using it. Or if a lot of people are enabling 'frobnicate' flag,
> I could consider employi
On Sat, 09 May 2020 15:22:52 +0200
Gerion Entrup wrote:
> I'm not sure, if Portage is capable of this, but a distinction in USE
> flags needed to fulfil some dependency of another package and USE flags
> actively activated by the user could be useful.
Presently impossible, as how portage impleme
On Fri, 8 May 2020 09:49:18 +0200
Jaco Kroon wrote:
> So we do need the full list of packages installed, filtered to ::gentoo,
> but there needs to be an indicated whether it's installed because it's
> in @world, as a dep of something in @world (which is possibly not in
> ::gentoo), or is some fo
>
> I think we shouldn't collect any data unless we have a good plan on how
> we'd be able to use it. In this thread, I'd like to collect ideas
> on what data to collect and how it could realistically be used.
>
5) CFLAGS and possibly related variables
6) "active" version of slotted system pack
Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2020, 09:29:36 CEST schrieb Michał Górny:
> I'm going to start with the data and uses I can think of. Please reply
> with other things you can think of.
>
>
> 1) list of selected packages (@world)
>
> We would use this to determine the popularity of individual packages,
>
Hi,
On 2020/05/08 08:17, Hans de Graaff wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:29 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
>>
>> 1) list of selected packages (@world)
>>
>> We would use this to determine the popularity of individual packages,
>> plus by scanning their dependencies we would be able to make combined
>
On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:29 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
>
>
> 1) list of selected packages (@world)
>
> We would use this to determine the popularity of individual packages,
> plus by scanning their dependencies we would be able to make combined
> statistics for direct usage + dependencies of oth
Hi,
The previous thread covered a few topics, in this one I'd like to focus
on the data collected. So far people have indicated a few different
kinds of data they'd find useful. However, I don't think enough
attention has been put on explaining why they need the data and how
they'd use it.
I th
Andreas K. Hüttel schrieb:
And it would be extremely useful how many of our maintainer-needed
packages are actually still compiled once per year. (Or if any one
single person even uses KDE on ppc64.)
Gentoostats is a typical stillbirth of the Gentoo Google Summer of
Soon- Obsolete Code. Would I
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:59:57 +0100
"Andreas K. Hüttel" wrote:
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> On Sunday 24 January 2016 16:50:46 Göktürk Yüksek wrote:
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> > I don't want to go off-topic here too much but this is more than a
> > missing tools issue. There are privacy co
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Andreas K. Hüttel wrote:
> Gentoostats is a typical stillbirth of the Gentoo Google Summer of Soon-
> Obsolete Code. Would I be happy if someone were to revive and actually deploy
> it (the last point is important!)? YES!
When I last looked into it, I couldn't act
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On Sunday 24 January 2016 16:50:46 Göktürk Yüksek wrote:
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> I don't want to go off-topic here too much but this is more than a
> missing tools issue. There are privacy concerns regarding the
> collection of such information. I recall this proposed
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
wrote:
> The point I was addressing is the suggestion that the above should be
> possible and the idea that any single developer is "entitled" to do so.
It's a moot point, because no one (that I see) claimed or is claiming
to be entitled
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On 29-08-2011 21:23, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 03:18 Fri 26 Aug , Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
>> I've picked this message as I want to address one point in this
>> thread that was focused on this sub-thread. I disagree with the
>> idea th
On 03:18 Fri 26 Aug , Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> I've picked this message as I want to address one point in this thread
> that was focused on this sub-thread. I disagree with the idea that
> adding an application to the Gentoo tree that collects data from users
> and sends it to a c
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
I've picked this message as I want to address one point in this thread
that was focused on this sub-thread.
I disagree with the idea that adding an application to the Gentoo tree
that collects data from users and sends it to a central (or distributed)
system is
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On 25-08-2011 14:35, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Rich Freeman
> wrote:
>> The big issue with opt-out is privacy law - especially in Europe
>> (that's leaving aside just being up-front with users). We'd end
>> up having to
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Alec Warner wrote:
> We did post to -dev, hence this thread.
My post was intended to be general in applicability, and not critical
of the particular instance of this issue being discussed.
I would generally suggest that implementing this as a package and not
as
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Roy Bamford wrote:
>> It has to be opt-in as opt out would be a dangerous precendent to set.
>>
>> I don't see any harm is a gentle reminder message from emerge, provided
>> that the reminder can be turned off
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Roy Bamford wrote:
> It has to be opt-in as opt out would be a dangerous precendent to set.
>
> I don't see any harm is a gentle reminder message from emerge, provided
> that the reminder can be turned off too, if the user really does not
> want to opt in. Thats no
On 2011.08.24 11:48, Patrick Lauer wrote:
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>
> If you sneakily add something to cron.daily by default you can get
> pretty nice coverage. But I guess anyone trying that in Gentooland
> will
> meet some rather unpleasant resistance :)
>
>
>
>
This app and if its opt in or opt out will se
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:03:44 +0200
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 24 August 2011, 12:48:35 schrieb Patrick Lauer:
> >
> > If you sneakily add something to cron.daily by default you can get
> > pretty nice coverage. But I guess anyone trying that in Gentooland
> > will meet some rather
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Thomas Kahle wrote:
>> Sorry, but NO. If you want you can make a big noise message that asks
>> users to install the cron-job but opt-out is not an option here.
>
> Well, that's up to the Council/Trustees ult
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Thomas Kahle wrote:
> Sorry, but NO. If you want you can make a big noise message that asks
> users to install the cron-job but opt-out is not an option here.
Well, that's up to the Council/Trustees ultimately, but opinions (and
better still reasoning) are welcom
i am a user and i am ok with opt-out if the std data that is transferd
is compleatly anonymized
so no sensitive data.
and if the user wants to register his/her machine pkg's more data is trasnfered
thx
Mario
2011/8/24 Thomas Kahle :
> On 13:03 Wed 24 Aug 2011, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>> Am Mit
On 13:03 Wed 24 Aug 2011, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 24 August 2011, 12:48:35 schrieb Patrick Lauer:
> >
> > If you sneakily add something to cron.daily by default you can get
> > pretty nice coverage. But I guess anyone trying that in Gentooland will
> > meet some rather unpleasant r
On 12:48 Wed 24 Aug 2011, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On 08/24/11 12:31, Thomas Kahle wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 18:16 Tue 23 Aug 2011, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> >> there is one important aspect of your program that really needs to be
> >> documented (and comments in the code are not enough):
> >>
> >
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> If you sneakily add something to cron.daily by default you can get
> pretty nice coverage. But I guess anyone trying that in Gentooland will
> meet some rather unpleasant resistance :)
Well, we could always broadcast the news widely (lists,
Am Mittwoch 24 August 2011, 12:48:35 schrieb Patrick Lauer:
>
> If you sneakily add something to cron.daily by default you can get
> pretty nice coverage. But I guess anyone trying that in Gentooland will
> meet some rather unpleasant resistance :)
>
Of course, we could place it in some blatantl
On 08/24/11 12:31, Thomas Kahle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 18:16 Tue 23 Aug 2011, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>> there is one important aspect of your program that really needs to be
>> documented (and comments in the code are not enough):
>>
>> What data exactly is the client sending to the server?!
>>
>>
Hi,
On 18:16 Tue 23 Aug 2011, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> there is one important aspect of your program that really needs to be
> documented (and comments in the code are not enough):
>
> What data exactly is the client sending to the server?!
>
> What you need is basically an easy-to-find file /
Hi Vikram,
there is one important aspect of your program that really needs to be
documented (and comments in the code are not enough):
What data exactly is the client sending to the server?!
What you need is basically an easy-to-find file / web page / ... where this is
explained concise and
Hi all,
Gentoostats[0] is a GSoC 2011 project to collect package statistics from gentoo
machines. Please check it out. Bug reports and feature suggestions are welcome.
To submit your stats, use the app-portage/gentoostats ebuild from betagarden
overlay[1].
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