[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-05-03 23h59 UTC

2009-05-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2009-05-03 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-tex/breqn 2009-04-27 06:06:17 ulm net-misc/kphone 2009-04-28 16:00:30 volkmar net-im/ekiga

[gentoo-dev] Re: Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Duncan
Peter Faraday Weller w...@gentoo.org posted 1241385973.4028.67.ca...@localhost.localdomain, excerpted below, on Sun, 03 May 2009 22:26:13 +0100: On a more serious note, the problem seems to be the complete lack of management in the required places, Gentoo is fast becoming (or more likely,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-04 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 04.05.2009, 00:25 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.05.03 22:47, Tiziano Müller wrote: This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd 4th Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 00:26:13 Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi, I've enjoyed my time with Gentoo, mostly... But these days I've just got too demotivated to work on it. I might have stayed if Ken69267 posted me some Lifesavers, but he didn't. :( On a more serious note, the problem seems to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for testing of GnuTLS 2.7.*

2009-05-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: GnuTLS =2.7.1 doesn't contain 'libgnutls-config' and 'libgnutls-extra-config' scripts so packages, which use them, usually fail to build. (Sometimes `configure` scripts disable support for GnuTLS without failing.) The list of packages depending on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Montag, den 04.05.2009, 00:25 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.05.03 22:47, Tiziano Müller wrote: This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd 4th Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Mon, 4 May 2009 04:34:20 -0400 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Monday 04 May 2009 00:26:13 Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi, I've enjoyed my time with Gentoo, mostly... But these days I've just got too demotivated to work on it. I might have stayed if Ken69267 posted me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Sun, 3 May 2009 18:51:59 -0400 Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Peter Faraday Weller w...@gentoo.org posted 1241385973.4028.67.ca...@localhost.localdomain, excerpted below, on Sun, 03 May 2009 22:26:13 +0100: On a more serious note, the problem seems to be the complete lack of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-04 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 02:06:47PM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote: Isn't it second and fourth Thursday? Regards, Petteri That's an oversimplification. That varies because of when we have some holidays and skip meetings, throughing the schedule off. It's easiest to remember it as every other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 14:50:56 Ferris McCormick wrote: On Mon, 4 May 2009 04:34:20 -0400 [..] I've been a developer a bit over 5 years. We know the problems and are working to fix them. I am sure that you know them. But those problems are the reasons why more and more developers are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 08:34 Mon 04 May , Thomas Anderson wrote: On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 02:06:47PM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote: Isn't it second and fourth Thursday? Regards, Petteri That's an oversimplification. That varies because of when we have some holidays and skip meetings, throughing the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Duncan
Ferris McCormick fmc...@gentoo.org posted 20090504114734.30329...@anaconda.krait.us, excerpted below, on Mon, 04 May 2009 11:47:34 +: For what it's worth (probably not much) I think Foundation is functioning now. At least, we are legal again, have bylaws, and a real bank account. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Peter Faraday Weller wrote: On a more serious note, the problem seems to be the complete lack of management in the required places, Gentoo is fast becoming (or more likely, already is) an anarchic organisation, where it's becoming nigh-on impossible to keep track of things. I see a number of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-04 Thread Roy Bamford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.05.04 10:20, Tiziano Müller wrote: [snip] We usually have the meeting every two weeks, so the next meeting would be the next Thursday. Unless someone has objections I'd propose to hold the meeting then. I guess I have to change the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in mail-mta/courier: ChangeLog courier-0.61.2.ebuild

2009-05-04 Thread Thomas Anderson
S=${WORKDIR}/${P} You don't need to set this, it's the default. filter-flags '-fomit-frame-pointer' filter-flags in global scope? You should put that in src_unpack/src_prepare. -- - Thomas Anderson Gentoo Developer / Areas of responsibility: AMD64, Secretary to the Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 18:54:09 Vlastimil Babka wrote: Peter Faraday Weller wrote: On a more serious note, the problem seems to be the complete lack of management in the required places, Gentoo is fast becoming (or more likely, already is) an anarchic organisation, where it's becoming

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 4 May 2009 19:36:04 +0300 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Or pushing more and more EAPI's will? No... As I said before Gentoo is quite understaffed. First we need people. Then we can concentrate on features :) As it happens, a lot of the features that go into EAPIs are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread George Prowse
Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you will be missed. I am quite surprised about what you said about the state of things because i've got the distinct impression from others that Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Mario Fetka
On Monday, 4. May 2009 19:06:12 George Prowse wrote: Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you will be missed. I am quite surprised about what you said about the state of things

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Mario Fetka
On Monday, 4. May 2009 19:06:12 George Prowse wrote: Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you will be missed. I am quite surprised about what you said about the state of things

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Richard Freeman
Markos Chandras wrote: I am sure that you know them. But those problems are the reasons why more and more developers are demotivated and leaving Gentoo. 'Fixing' those problems should be a N1 priority on every gentoo council meeting until they are gone. There is absolutely no point in trying

Re: [gentoo-dev] license issue with fretsonfire

2009-05-04 Thread Richard Freeman
Arun Raghavan wrote: As for the songs, does it make sense to put that in a separate package that the code package depends on? The package can have the restrictive license it is distributed under and RESTRICT=mirror bindist. That was my first thought as well - just split out the songs and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 21:24:11 Richard Freeman wrote: Markos Chandras wrote: I am sure that you know them. But those problems are the reasons why more and more developers are demotivated and leaving Gentoo. 'Fixing' those problems should be a N1 priority on every gentoo council meeting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 20:06:12 George Prowse wrote: Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you will be missed. I am quite surprised about what you said about the state of things

Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring)

2009-05-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mario Fetka schrieb: On Monday, 4. May 2009 19:06:12 George Prowse wrote: Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you will be missed. I am quite surprised about what you said about the state

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-04 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 04.05.2009, 15:35 +0300 schrieb Markos Chandras: On Monday 04 May 2009 14:50:56 Ferris McCormick wrote: On Mon, 4 May 2009 04:34:20 -0400 [..] I've been a developer a bit over 5 years. We know the problems and are working to fix them. I am sure that you know them. But

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 14

2009-05-04 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 04.05.2009, 07:50 -0700 schrieb Donnie Berkholz: On 08:34 Mon 04 May , Thomas Anderson wrote: On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 02:06:47PM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote: Isn't it second and fourth Thursday? Regards, Petteri That's an oversimplification. That varies

[gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-04 Thread George Prowse
Thomas Sachau wrote: Mario Fetka schrieb: On Monday, 4. May 2009 19:06:12 George Prowse wrote: Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think) I think you will be missed. I am quite surprised about what you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 04 May 2009 23:47:08 George Prowse wrote: Thomas Sachau wrote: Mario Fetka schrieb: On Monday, 4. May 2009 19:06:12 George Prowse wrote: Peter Faraday Weller wrote: Hi Thanks, welp Sad to hear it mate. As the person who did your first install for you (i think)

[gentoo-dev] Google SoC @ Gentoo - Universal Select Tool

2009-05-04 Thread Sérgio Almeida
Gentoo Dev's, My name is Sérgio Almeida, I am Portuguese and I am a student for this year's Google SoC coding the Universal Select Tool project for Gentoo being Sébastien Fabbro (bicatali) my mentor. Abstract: Universal Select Tool is an utility to manage system configuration. This tool is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-04 Thread Mounir Lamouri
George Prowse wrote: I think you are missing the point. If you sit and wait for them to join you will always be understaffed. Go on a big dev drive! Announce it all over all the Gentoo's normal communication channels and other generic linux places! Email some linux magazines, talk to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-04 Thread George Prowse
Mounir Lamouri wrote: George Prowse wrote: I think you are missing the point. If you sit and wait for them to join you will always be understaffed. Go on a big dev drive! Announce it all over all the Gentoo's normal communication channels and other generic linux places! Email some linux

Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring)

2009-05-04 Thread Olivier Huber
Hi, 2009/5/4 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org [snip] For those, who can work with IRC and are interested in working with ebuilds, there is already an option: Join #gentoo-dev-help or even better #gentoo-sunrise and read the documentation from the topic. The Sunrise Overlay (with the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google SoC @ Gentoo - Universal Select Tool

2009-05-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/5/4 Sérgio Almeida meph...@gmail.com: Please drop me a line here or at freenode if you have anything to add All I have to add is thanks a lot. I wished other SoC students would also introduce themselves and their project on their list. Denis.

Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring)

2009-05-04 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Olivier Huber oli.hu...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] dirtyepic made a funny entry on his blog [1] and darkside tried also to do something [2], but it seems to me that this alias is a black [snip] You forgot the references :) Don't postpone putting them till the end!