On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 1:51 PM William Hubbs wrote:
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> All,
>
> I removed virtual/daemontools from virtual/init because it doesn't
> appear to be an init process; it is just a service manager.
>
> Here is a list of the rdepends in my proposed virtual/init with
> comments.
>
> ker
All,
I removed virtual/daemontools from virtual/init because it doesn't
appear to be an init process; it is just a service manager.
Here is a list of the rdepends in my proposed virtual/init with
comments.
kernel_linux? (
|| (
sys-apps/sysvinit
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 1:22 PM William Hubbs wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:46:02PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:56 AM William Hubbs wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:42:02AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >
> > If somebody just installs openrc their
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:46:02PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:56 AM William Hubbs wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:42:02AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:02 PM William Hubbs
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > RDEPEND="sysv-utils? ( !
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:11:40PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> Indeed, the fact that sys-apps/sysvinit installs an inittab that
> references /sbin/openrc without depending on sys-apps/openrc already
> looks very wrong to me.
Correct, that's what I have been thinking about.
> Perhaps OpenRC s
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:56 AM William Hubbs wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:42:02AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:02 PM William Hubbs wrote:
> > >
> > > > RDEPEND="sysv-utils? ( !sys-apps/sysvinit )
> > > > !sysv-utils? ( sys-apps/sysvinit )"
> > >
>
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:39:10AM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:02 PM William Hubbs wrote:
> > > Systemd already has IUSE=+sysv-utils which has a similar function:
> > > [- ] sysv-utils
> > > sys-apps/systemd: Install sysvinit compatibility symlinks and
> > >
On 7/11/19 11:43 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
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>> then by default, OpenRC will pull in sys-apps/sysvinit, and use its
>> implementations of init/shutdown. Then later if someone wants to get rid
>> of sys-apps/sysvinit, he has the option to uninstall sys-apps/sysvinit
>> and then re-emerge OpenRC with
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:42:02AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:02 PM William Hubbs wrote:
> >
> > > RDEPEND="sysv-utils? ( !sys-apps/sysvinit )
> > > !sysv-utils? ( sys-apps/sysvinit )"
> >
> > I like this, but the second branch (!sysv-utils) is not really nee
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:01:16AM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 7/10/19 11:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> >
> > I don't want to remove sysvinit by default. If you want to remove it,
> > you can, but I don't want to force that issue. That's why I don't want
> > to turn the use flag on by defa
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:02 PM William Hubbs wrote:
> > Systemd already has IUSE=+sysv-utils which has a similar function:
> > [- ] sysv-utils
> > sys-apps/systemd: Install sysvinit compatibility symlinks and
> > manpages for init, telinit, halt, poweroff, reboot, runlevel, and
> >
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:02 PM William Hubbs wrote:
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> > RDEPEND="sysv-utils? ( !sys-apps/sysvinit )
> > !sysv-utils? ( sys-apps/sysvinit )"
>
> I like this, but the second branch (!sysv-utils) is not really needed,
> because if we put sysvinit as the first RDEPEND of virtual/init, w
On 7/10/19 11:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>
> I don't want to remove sysvinit by default. If you want to remove it,
> you can, but I don't want to force that issue. That's why I don't want
> to turn the use flag on by default like systemd does.
>
After re-reading the bug report and sleeping on t
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 08:17:06PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
*snip*
> Will the system boot if you don't install sysvinit and if you don't
> provide the /sbin/init wrapper for /sbin/openrc-init?
No, but this is also true if you remove sysvinit and install systemd
with the sysv-utils use flag
After chatting with Rich a bit, I'm going to reply here.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 08:17:17PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 8:03 PM William Hubbs wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 07:30:57PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> > > On 7/10/19 7:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>
I'm replying, because there is one more thing I want to add before I
head out.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 07:03:32PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 07:30:57PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> > On 7/10/19 7:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > 3. add a sysvinit use flag to openrc,
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 8:03 PM William Hubbs wrote:
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> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 07:30:57PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> > On 7/10/19 7:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > 3. add a sysvinit use flag to openrc, which will be off by default. When
> > > it is on, openrc will block sysvinit since it
On 7/10/19 8:03 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
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>> This logic, or maybe the name of the flag, sounds backwards to me. I
>> only get sysvinit when USE=sysvinit is NOT set?
>
> If you don't set sys-apps/openrc[sysvinit], you would have /sbin/init
> and /sbin/shutdown as they are now, from sys-apps/sysvi
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 07:30:57PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 7/10/19 7:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > 3. add a sysvinit use flag to openrc, which will be off by default. When
> > it is on, openrc will block sysvinit since it will provide /sbin/init
> > and /sbin/shutdown.
> >
>
> This
On 7/10/19 7:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> 3. add a sysvinit use flag to openrc, which will be off by default. When
> it is on, openrc will block sysvinit since it will provide /sbin/init
> and /sbin/shutdown.
>
This logic, or maybe the name of the flag, sounds backwards to me. I
only get sysvini
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 04:48:46PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 03:25:28PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I have this bug against openrc:
> >
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/599468
> >
> > The reason for the hard dependency on sysvinit in OpenRC no longer
> > e
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 03:25:28PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
>
> I have this bug against openrc:
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/599468
>
> The reason for the hard dependency on sysvinit in OpenRC no longer
> exists since we now have a replacement for killall5, and some people
> want to use
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