On 17 Jul 2007, at 17:19, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote:
I believe that even Linus - who is noted for his long-standing
opposition to v3 - would change his mind were he to experience this.
They're using the operating system _I_ wrote to lock me out of
Stefán István wrote:
(II) NV(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz
(II) NV(0): Monitor0: Using default vrefresh range of 50.00-70.00 Hz
is the reason all the other modes are being disabled:
(II) NV(0): Not using default mode 640x350 (vrefresh out of range)
(II) NV(0): Not
On 17 Jul 2007, at 18:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TiVo ... did not allow modified, and therefore potentially
Compromised, devices connect to their network.
This does not sound like theft of code, it sounds like sound network
protocol. If you wish to maintain a secure
On 17 Jul 2007, at 18:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
The preamble of Version 2 was almost unchanged from the original
preamble written for the first GPL license. It was eloquent. It
was convincing. It was awe inspiring.
...
It is hard to explain my feelings about
On 18 Jul 2007, at 13:38, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
It was *barely* within the word, and definitely not within the spirit
of the GPL. Don't beleive me? Ask anyone at the FSF or RMS himself.
They wrote the thing.
...
Tivo had no option,
On 18 Jul 2007, at 13:35, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
...
You can get everything at once and in the same place using the online
docs:
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
This manual is very excellent.
I believe you can also get it in PDF format - I printed it out over 3
years ago
Thanks for the help, it works now!
But one thing is still not clear for me: why isn't xorg able to determine the
horizsync and vertrefresh rates automatically?
Istvan
szerda 18 július 2007 15.22 dátummal Steve Dommett ezt írta:
Stefán István wrote:
(II) NV(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Stroller wrote:
On 18 Jul 2007, at 13:35, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
...
You can get everything at once and in the same place using the
online docs:
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
This manual is very excellent.
I believe you can also get it in
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 01:02, Iain Buchanan wrote:
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 18:12 -0500, »Q« wrote:
In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Thufir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've read the GRUB documentation, but still don't understand why the
following worked:
[snip grub.conf]
I would've
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 12:49:21 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote:
it takes just as much power to
spin up the drive as to keep it spinning for a few extra minutes.
So ... spin it down after a few more minutes?
-- hendrik
Thanks for the report, I found it very interesting.
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:53:45 +0100, Mick wrote:
If you have some reason not to mix one OS', or distro's boot files,
kernels, etc with another, plus if you want to try a different version
of grub then you can install grub separately in the new OS partition
(instead of the MBR) and chainload
On 7/18/07, Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 12:49:21 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote:
it takes just as much power to
spin up the drive as to keep it spinning for a few extra minutes.
So ... spin it down after a few more minutes?
-- hendrik
No, only spin it down when the
On 18 Jul 2007, at 16:00, Alan McKinnon wrote:
...
I don't know. I think the overview is pretty clear http://
www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Overview, and leads into
the remainder of the documentation quite well.
... The big stumbling block is getting people to grasp that grub
is
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??':
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
The TiVo thing was completely within the word and spirit of the
GPL.
It was *barely* within the word, and definitely not within
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re:
[gentoo-user] 2 to 3??':
What should I do, in your opinion?
Probably LGPLv3, which will allow GPLv2 (and proprietary) projects to use
it without requiring the combined work to be GPLv3.
Actually, I'm probably going to take a
On 7/18/07, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/18/07, Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 12:49:21 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote:
it takes just as much power to
spin up the drive as to keep it spinning for a few extra minutes.
So ... spin it down after a few more
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??':
However, this is not the point.
The point is that Tivo SOLD people hardware
This is the salient point for me, too. If hardware was still owned by TiVo
(in reality, not just in name) I'd have no
Hello list,
I just got a new box for use at work, its an Intel Core Duo 1.8, 1GB
RAM, with an Intel graphic card, its a IBM Lenovo machine. My old one
is an Itautec Athlon XP 1.1GHz with 512MB RAM and an Nvidia AGP
graphic card.
My make.conf (intersting part):
CFLAGS=-mno-tls-direct-seg-refs
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:44:32 +0100, Mike Williams wrote:
Gut reaction, firewire.
I've seen exactly the same on my own boxes.
Debian is doing the same too, so I'd just go add a net.eth1 symlink change
your config and use that instead, just don't remove firewire networking
support, or you
Daniel da Veiga wrote:
Hello list,
I just got a new box for use at work, its an Intel Core Duo 1.8, 1GB
RAM, with an Intel graphic card, its a IBM Lenovo machine. My old one
is an Itautec Athlon XP 1.1GHz with 512MB RAM and an Nvidia AGP
graphic card.
My make.conf (intersting part):
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:33:20 + (UTC), Hendrik Boom wrote:
After my son, Henk Boom, who was an earlier gentoo adopter in my
household, showed me just where the net.eth1 symlink had to go, it all
boots properly. Thanks. I had never dreamed that firewire would be
recognised as an ethernet!
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:06:57 +0100, Stroller wrote:
I have in the past considered putting grub.conf on a FAT32 partition
- I'm not 101% sure that'd work but I've never tried because I never
actually saw the usefulness.
It will work, provided you call the file menu.lst, because the GRUB
On Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote:
On 17 Jul 2007, at 17:19, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote:
I believe that even Linus - who is noted for his long-standing
opposition to v3 - would change his mind were he to experience this.
They're using
Daniel da Veiga writes:
I just got a new box for use at work, its an Intel Core Duo 1.8, 1GB
RAM, with an Intel graphic card, its a IBM Lenovo machine. My old one
is an Itautec Athlon XP 1.1GHz with 512MB RAM and an Nvidia AGP
graphic card.
My make.conf (intersting part):
On Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote:
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dirk Heinrichs schrieb:
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Dirk Heinrichs:
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar:
I'm curious - what makes you say that? Stroller sent one post
On 7/18/07, Alex Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another method, which I would use, would be to change your CFLAGS to what
you would like for the new processor, but use mtune= instead of march=.
This will also optimize for the cpu, but the code will run on any x86
CPU. emerge world --emptytree
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Volker Armin Hemmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to
3??':
a) nobody is forced to buy a tivo. If you don't like it, don't buy it
and you don't have problems.
TiVo isn't forced to use GPLv3 licensed code -- if they don't use it, they
don't have
On 23:51 Tue 17 Jul, Thufir wrote:
Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that?
maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining!
I guess you missed it. `info grub' says (*Note chainloading)
---8---8
4.1.2 Load another boot loader to boot unsupported operating systems
On Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
On 7/18/07, Alex Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another method, which I would use, would be to change your CFLAGS to what
you would like for the new processor, but use mtune= instead of march=.
This will also optimize for the cpu, but
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 07:16, Dale wrote:
Elias Probst wrote:
Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007 23:01:12 schrieb Stroller:
Hi there,
I'm fairly experienced with Linux and have been using Gentoo for over
3 years, ...
Probably, you're not that fairly experienced regarding the usage of
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 15:23, Stefán István wrote:
Thanks for the help, it works now!
But one thing is still not clear for me: why isn't xorg able to determine
the horizsync and vertrefresh rates automatically?
You could try adding:
Option DDCModeTrue
under Section Device.
Hi,
i have a problem with NFS. A partition mounted on machine gentoo1 is
correctly exported and mounted in gentoo2 (that is, it is possible to
read and write on it). However whenever i try to execute a program
from gentoo2 that it is stored on the exports of gentoo1, i get the
Permission denied
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
On 7/18/07, Alex Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another method, which I would use, would be to change your CFLAGS to what
you would like for the new processor, but use mtune= instead of march=.
This
-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:35 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] [OT] English sucks (was: Re:
Installation problems)
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:44:32 +0100, Mike
Marco Calviani wrote:
Hi,
i have a problem with NFS. A partition mounted on machine gentoo1 is
correctly exported and mounted in gentoo2 (that is, it is possible to
read and write on it). However whenever i try to execute a program
from gentoo2 that it is stored on the exports of gentoo1, i
On 7/18/07, Александър Л. Димитров [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 23:51 Tue 17 Jul, Thufir wrote:
Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that?
maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining!
I guess you missed it. `info grub' says (*Note chainloading)
---8---8
4.1.2 Load
On 7/18/07, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
instead of two emerge --emptytree it would be faster to just nuke the
installation
I agree. Just back up /etc, make a copy of your world file and any other
config files you may need and start from scratch. At least then you KNOW
for sure where
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 18:49:00 Alex Schuster wrote:
What I want to know is, will my software, compiled with the above
settings, run in the new processor?
I think this will not work well, because your current system has
Athlon-specific CPU instructions which the Intel machine dows not
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 20:38, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
On 7/18/07, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
instead of two emerge --emptytree it would be faster to just nuke the
installation
I agree. Just back up /etc, make a copy of your world file and any
other config files you may need
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:37:34 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
instead of two emerge --emptytree it would be faster to just nuke the
installation
Except you can continue to use the machine this way.
--
Neil Bothwick
Do not underestimate the power of the Force.
signature.asc
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:49:00 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote:
Another method, which I would use, would be to change your CFLAGS to
what you would like for the new processor, but use mtune= instead of
march=. This will also optimize for the cpu, but the code will run on
any x86 CPU. emerge world
On 7/18/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:49:00 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote:
Another method, which I would use, would be to change your CFLAGS to
what you would like for the new processor, but use mtune= instead of
march=. This will also optimize for the cpu,
On 7/18/07, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
i have a problem with NFS. A partition mounted on machine gentoo1 is
correctly exported and mounted in gentoo2 (that is, it is possible to
read and write on it). However whenever i try to execute a program
from gentoo2 that it is stored
On 18 Jul 2007, at 18:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
...
Linus has said it several times that he was ok with the thing Tivo
did.
And Tivo is the reason for that clause in GPLv3.
I've seen no evidence that he said this AFTER spending a big chunk of
his own money on hardware, plugging it into
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:29:40 +0200, Cahn Roger wrote:
Hi all,
I'm with thunar and xfce.
I can't bring up cdrom or cdrw when I put in a cd or dvd. I must do it
with a terminal, and then I get an icone on the desktop and it works
well.
In contrary, the usb-key works normally and an icone
Hi Mick,
Thank you for bringing this thread back in a direction which might
help me.
:D
On 18 Jul 2007, at 19:26, Mick wrote:
...
With regards to the OP getting twm running, that should be the
default WM if
Xsession is used. Does your /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc contain
something like
2007/7/16, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On July 15, 2007 03:09:41 pm »Q« wrote:
I emerged netscape-flash-9.0.48.0 before it was masked. I assume that
emerge got the correct tarball, else it would have been caught by the
checksum checking, and because about:plugins in Firefox says
File name:
snip
If anyone has time to change XSESSION=Xsession and log on to their
machine as a new user I would be grateful to hear what results they
get. I can't help wondering if this is a little-tested option and
can't help hoping it's broken globally.
Did so - changed DISPLAYMANAGER=xdm and
On Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote:
On 18 Jul 2007, at 18:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
...
Linus has said it several times that he was ok with the thing Tivo
did.
And Tivo is the reason for that clause in GPLv3.
I've seen no evidence that he said this AFTER spending a
Have you used ~/.xsession ?
That's what I do for a 'custom' session. Search for xsession in the X
manpage for more information on this.
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On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 15:30 +0200, Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
On 23:51 Tue 17 Jul, Thufir wrote:
Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that?
maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining!
I guess you missed it. `info grub' says (*Note chainloading)
[snip]
Note
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 17:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
[snip]
I get a feel
that you are not an average person so your impressions are not valid
for them.
hahaha!! If you know who this mythical average person is, let me know
so we can pay her $$$ to test all of our software!!
;)
--
Iain
On 7/19/07, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Note that it's usually better to refer to the info command for more
serious documentation about GNU tools in general. RMS and his guys don't
exactly seem to like manpages that much that's what they have info for.
They have their point,
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 06:48:38 pm Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote:
On 18 Jul 2007, at 18:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
[C]ould
ANYBODY claim to be surprised by say Tivo?
Yes they can, since the move to DRM/TPM/etc. devices was unannounced and a
As soon as I saw this thread I knew it was trouble. I was able to
resist posting for the first couple of days - I do wish I had
maintained this restraint.
On 19 Jul 2007, at 00:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
if somebody buys locked hardware, it is his own freaking fault. Or
could
On 19 Jul 2007, at 01:41, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
...
If TiVo was renting ... the devices, I would probably be on the other
side of this discussion.
Oh, absolutely. There's entirely no reason for someone to have the
right to install software on a device they don't own. But IMO on a
I've uninstall netscape-flash because of a problem with files in my
~/.mozilla/plugins/ but, now it's hard masked, do I (we) have to use the
media-libs/libflash instead ?
thx for advice
oops, my fault, There is a bug filled here :
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185141
Waiting for
-Original Message-
From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:59 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
Routers:
The router issue was probably missed by a number of
people simply because in the states it is
Hi
My box can`t link to internet , I using rp-pppoe I think it work fine, when
run pppoe-start I get internet IP and the right DNS informention in
/etc/resolv.conf ，but ping google.com , unknewn name, ping IP is rest
why??
--
==
I'm sorry for my poor english!!!
-Original Message-
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:42 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
If you don't like the GPLv3, you probably didn't
*really* like the GPLv2 and might be more
-Original Message-
From: sain yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:11 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] ADSL network
Hi
My box can`t link to internet , I using rp-pppoe
I think it work fine, when run pppoe-start I get
internet
Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007 23:01:12 schrieb Stroller:
Hi there,
I'm fairly experienced with Linux and have been using Gentoo for over
3 years, ...
Probably, you're not that fairly experienced regarding the usage of your mail
client. ;-)
Regards, Elias P.
--
A really nice number:
Elias Probst wrote:
Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007 23:01:12 schrieb Stroller:
Hi there,
I'm fairly experienced with Linux and have been using Gentoo for over
3 years, ...
Probably, you're not that fairly experienced regarding the usage of your mail
client. ;-)
Regards, Elias P.
Hi!
I'm fairly experienced with Linux and have been using Gentoo for over
3 years, ...
Probably, you're not that fairly experienced regarding the usage of your
mail client. ;-)
Regards, Elias P.
Well, I don't know about yours but mine says they were all sent at the
same exact
Patrick Holthaus wrote:
Hi!
I'm fairly experienced with Linux and have been using Gentoo for over
3 years, ...
Probably, you're not that fairly experienced regarding the usage of your
mail client. ;-)
Regards, Elias P.
Well, I don't know about yours but mine says
Personally I'm quite happy with both GPLv2 and GPLv3. Frankly, my only
real, serious concern is the fact that the two licences are incompatible.
The fact compatibility has not explicitly allowed sounds plain crazy to
me. This means that GPLv2-only projects won't exchange code anymore with
Elias Probst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007 23:01:12 schrieb Stroller:
Hi there,
I'm fairly experienced with Linux and have been using Gentoo for over
3 years, ...
Probably, you're not that fairly experienced regarding the usage of your
mail client. ;-)
I'm curious -
...with the following last lines:
(I can't find an obvious error, it just seems the ebuild dies, but
maybe that's just me not having experience in c/c++ programming.)
i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -c -pipe -g -w -pipe -march=athlon-xp -O2
-fno-strict-aliasing -D_REENTRANT -DQT_NO_DEBUG
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar:
I'm curious - what makes you say that? Stroller sent one post to the
list and one post has shown up. At least that's how it looks like over
here on the GMane side of things.
I received it multiple times, too.
Bye...
Dirk
--
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:16:06 -0500, Dale wrote:
Well, I don't know about yours but mine says they were all sent at the
same exact time. So why are they arriving at different times? Are we
sure this is him and not something else?
More importantly, they all have the same Message-ID. However,
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:16:06 -0500, Dale wrote:
Well, I don't know about yours but mine says they were all sent at the
same exact time. So why are they arriving at different times? Are we
sure this is him and not something else?
More importantly,
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Dirk Heinrichs:
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar:
I'm curious - what makes you say that? Stroller sent one post to the
list and one post has shown up. At least that's how it looks like over
here on the GMane side of things.
I
Dirk Heinrichs schrieb:
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Dirk Heinrichs:
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar:
I'm curious - what makes you say that? Stroller sent one post to the
list and one post has shown up. At least that's how it looks like over
here on the GMane
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dirk Heinrichs schrieb:
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Dirk Heinrichs:
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar:
I'm curious - what makes you say that? Stroller sent one post to the
list and one post has shown up. At least that's
-Original Message-
From: b.n. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:29 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
Personally I'm quite happy with both GPLv2 and GPLv3.
Frankly, my only
real, serious concern is the fact that
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Thufir wrote:
Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that?
maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining!
The grub man pages are, ahem, skimpy. IIRC it's all of three paragraphs.
The full story is in the info pages, but the way they are written
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 14:18, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Thufir wrote:
Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that?
maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining!
The grub man pages are, ahem, skimpy. IIRC it's all of three
paragraphs.
The full
I read a little bit of the new license, and restrictive though it may
be and also strange for a pillar of the open source community to
suddenly change is directive so drastically, I am still comforted. I
believe the essential beauty of this community is that we cannot be
governed by software
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
The TiVo thing was completely within the word and spirit of the
GPL.
It was *barely* within the word, and definitely not within the spirit
of the GPL. Don't beleive me? Ask anyone at the FSF or RMS himself.
They wrote the thing.
On 18 Jul 2007, at 07:03, Elias Probst wrote:
Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007 23:01:12 schrieb Stroller:
I'm fairly experienced with Linux and have been using Gentoo for over
3 years, ...
Probably, you're not that fairly experienced regarding the usage of
your mail
client. ;-)
With the use
Hello!
I bought an MSI notebook with a 17 LCD display and a GeForce Go 6100 vga
card. My problem is that I can start xorg only in 800x600 or less resolution,
but according to the manual it should operate in 1440x900. Attached you can
see my X config file and the log file. It seems to me that
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