On 2012-11-12 2:33 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
My experience is that all so-called "primitive" societies have an
excellent grasp of this thing called manners - it's the oil that
lubricates social interaction.
Interestingly enough this is most likely due to the principle of 'an
armed society is a
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 06:26:40 PM Hilco Wijbenga wrote:
> On 13 November 2012 15:08, Volker Armin Hemmann
>
> wrote:
> > look at the message code of the mail Crok reacted to and compare it with
> > some others - even by you. List-id and other things are missing...
> >
> > List-Post: <
On 13 November 2012 15:08, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 16:57:14 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>>
>> wrote:
>> > Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 15:45:11 schrieb Bruce Hill:
>> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:2
Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 16:57:14 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>
> wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 15:45:11 schrieb Bruce Hill:
> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > Can't y
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 15:45:11 schrieb Bruce Hill:
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Can't you answer correctly to the mailing lists? Each one of your mails
>> > goes into my stand
Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 15:45:11 schrieb Bruce Hill:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Can't you answer correctly to the mailing lists? Each one of your mails
> > goes into my standard Mailbox, while I did a rule to make it goes to a
> > gentoo-user
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:45:11 -0600
Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote:
> > >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Can't you answer correctly to the mailing lists? Each one of your
> > mails goes into my standard Mailbox, while I did a rule to make it
> > goes to a gentoo-use
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote:
> >
> Hello,
>
> Can't you answer correctly to the mailing lists? Each one of your mails goes
> into my standard Mailbox, while I did a rule to make it goes to a gentoo-user
> folder...
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Cr0k
Can you learn to trim? ;
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:30:57 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
> wrote:
> > Am Montag, 12. November 2012, 02:37:13 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> >> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Alan McKinnon
> > wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
> Am Montag, 12. November 2012, 02:37:13 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600
>> >
>> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 a
Am Montag, 12. November 2012, 02:37:13 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Alan McKinnon
wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600
> >
> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Alan McKinnon
> >> wrote: [snip]
> >>
> >> > In trying to
On 10/11/12 00:53, walt wrote:
[...]
You Lennart haters out there (and I was one of you not so long ago ;)
now I think he's not so bad after all.
I'll like systemd when I can just emerge it and have it working, just
like I can with OpenRC :-)
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:21:06 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>> wrote:
>> [snip]
>> >> Seniority != meritocracy. And I don't know how much "meritocratic"
>> >> this list could b
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 05:59:39 -0600
Bruce Hill wrote:
> my experience has been that even most heathen in
> remote villages understand propriety.
My experience is that all so-called "primitive" societies have an
excellent grasp of this thing called manners - it's the oil that
lubricates social int
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:21:06 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
> wrote:
> [snip]
> >> Seniority != meritocracy. And I don't know how much "meritocratic"
> >> this list could be, since it is a users lists. The most "merit" a
> >> member of t
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
[snip]
>> Seniority != meritocracy. And I don't know how much "meritocratic"
>> this list could be, since it is a users lists. The most "merit" a
>> member of this list can get is to give technically acurate,
>> constructive, and polite
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Bruce Hill
wrote:
[snip]
> This person doing post-grad work in a Mexican universtiy well understands.
> But even if you doubt that, just reference his remark: "I hope it doesn't
> offend anyone. That was not (nor is) the intention." Seems he didn't *really*
> mean
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Bruce Hill
wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés
> wrote:
>> >
>> > Oh, really? Didn't get the memo. I suppose all my machines (laptops,
>> > desktops, servers and media center) running with Gentoo+systemd (and
>> > what is more, *withou
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
[huge snip]
> But all of this is a side issue anyway. The main thrust of my post was
> that some software and developers have a tendency to get tempers riled
> up around here (remember /usr, separate volumes and initrd?) and with a
> volatile a
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 18:24:32 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon
wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:32:41 +0800
> >
> > 微蔡 wrote:
> >> 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41，Bruce Hill 写道：
> >>
> >> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armi
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:28:52PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick
Duly noted and appreciated ... thank you.
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Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 05:59:39 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:37:03AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > Unfortunately, there are times when it is necessary to point out how
> > bad an idea is in order to help someone. Recent example: the
> > suggestion to use dd to copy one driv
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >
> > Oh, really? Didn't get the memo. I suppose all my machines (laptops,
> > desktops, servers and media center) running with Gentoo+systemd (and
> > what is more, *without* OpenRC) are a fidget of my imagination.
fidget is what l
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:37:03AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:21:06 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
>
> > If we also stick to helping someone with their problem, and refrain from
> > replying about how bad or useless we think an app or ideal might be to
> > us, we could avoid fl
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:21:06 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
>
>> > If we also stick to helping someone with their problem, and refrain from
>> > replying about how bad or useless we think an app or ideal might be to
>> > us, we could avoid flame wars.
> Unfortunately, there are tim
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 02:37:13 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600
> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Alan McKinnon
> >> wrote: [snip]
> >> > In trying to solve a g
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:21:06 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
> If we also stick to helping someone with their problem, and refrain from
> replying about how bad or useless we think an app or ideal might be to
> us, we could avoid flame wars.
Unfortunately, there are times when it is necessary to point o
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Alan McKinnon
>> wrote: [snip]
>> > In trying to solve a general problem, Lennart has a knack for
>> > breaking Gentoo - this distro does
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote: [snip]
> > In trying to solve a general problem, Lennart has a knack for
> > breaking Gentoo - this distro does not fit the general problems he
> > works on.
>
> Oh, really? D
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Bruce Hill
wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 09:02:18PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> I'm atheists, and I don't see any relation between being or not a
>> religious person, using profanity, or that we respect each other. The
>> three of them are orthogona
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Bruce Hill
wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 07:50:04PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Bruce Hill
>> wrote:
>> [snip]
>> > It offends me.
>>
>> That's too bad. In public mailing lists profanity happens a lot. I
>> suggest you
Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 03:57:52AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> FWIW, swearing here is rare. Usually it's understandable when it
>> happens.
>>
>> Threads like this current one are also rare. Unfortunately of late they
>> usually involve Lennart, and that's understandable too:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 03:57:52AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> FWIW, swearing here is rare. Usually it's understandable when it
> happens.
>
> Threads like this current one are also rare. Unfortunately of late they
> usually involve Lennart, and that's understandable too:
>
> In trying to so
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 09:02:18PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> I'm atheists, and I don't see any relation between being or not a
> religious person, using profanity, or that we respect each other. The
> three of them are orthogonal, I think.
>
> I try to respect every member of this lis
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 07:50:04PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Bruce Hill
> wrote:
> [snip]
> > It offends me.
>
> That's too bad. In public mailing lists profanity happens a lot. I
> suggest you not to read LKML; Linus is famous for his outbursts: you
> p
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> If you don't like it, feel free to filter me, ignore me, or wathever
> course of action you think you should take. I will not censor myself
> just to placate the sensibilities of someone. Regards.
First time in over eight years that I have had to do this. So sad. It
Re
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Peter Humphrey said:
> Not wishing to hijack the thread, but have you thought about lasers?
Light sabers are the future, dude!
-- Keith
--
-- ~~~
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Dale wrote:
[snip]
> If you are not a religious person, then fine, some of us are. It
> doesn't mean we can't still respect each other and be a better place
> than the LKML.
I'm atheists, and I don't see any relation between being or not a
religious person, using
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Bruce Hill
> wrote:
> [snip]
>> It offends me.
> That's too bad. In public mailing lists profanity happens a lot. I
> suggest you not to read LKML; Linus is famous for his outbursts: you
> probably would get offended a lot.
>
> Regards.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
[snip]
> In trying to solve a general problem, Lennart has a knack for breaking
> Gentoo - this distro does not fit the general problems he works on.
Oh, really? Didn't get the memo. I suppose all my machines (laptops,
desktops, servers and me
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:06:37 -0600
Bruce Hill wrote:
> Other than your use of profanity, that post was worth making a sticky.
>
> Over the last 9 years I've subscribed/unsubscribed to a good number
> of lists. The first such abuse of others was A.O.L.S. -- yes, you
> just look bad, real bad.
>
On Sunday 11 November 2012 12:28:35 pk wrote:
> ... Well, I do hate solutions looking for problems to solve,
Not wishing to hijack the thread, but have you thought about lasers?
--
Rgds
Peter
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Bruce Hill
wrote:
[snip]
> It offends me.
That's too bad. In public mailing lists profanity happens a lot. I
suggest you not to read LKML; Linus is famous for his outbursts: you
probably would get offended a lot.
Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Cienc
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 07:14:29PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Bruce Hill
> wrote:
> [snip]
> > Other than your use of profanity, that post was worth making a sticky.
>
> I try not to use profanity most of the time. In this particular case,
> I believe it
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Bruce Hill
wrote:
[snip]
> Other than your use of profanity, that post was worth making a sticky.
I try not to use profanity most of the time. In this particular case,
I believe it was appropriate since, really, who the FUCK cares if I
have been suscribed or not t
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:24:32 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> Which is
>> easily explained by people like you that believe that "being around"
>> longer somehow gives more "merit" and that there is a "pecking order".
>
>
> slow down t
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 06:24:32PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
> >
> > Say Dude,
> >
> > I have a question (well, two actually)
> >
> > My name is Alan and I've been subscribed on this list for 7 years.
> >
> > What's your name, and
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:24:32 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> Which is
> easily explained by people like you that believe that "being around"
> longer somehow gives more "merit" and that there is a "pecking order".
slow down there a little bit please
I don't really think it's me you're riled
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[snip]
> It's completely relevant.
I meant irrelevant, of course.
Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:03:38 +
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:33:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> > Just trying to establish your place in the pecking order in this
> > here meritocracy.
>
> I think the OP has already done that with his previous posts.
>
> Or are you worri
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:32:41 +0800
> 微蔡 wrote:
>
>> 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41，Bruce Hill 写道：
>> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann
>> > wrote:
>> > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and d
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:33:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> Just trying to establish your place in the pecking order in this here
>> meritocracy.
> I think the OP has already done that with his previous posts.
>
> Or are you worried that he's after your attitude stripes? :P
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:33:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Just trying to establish your place in the pecking order in this here
> meritocracy.
I think the OP has already done that with his previous posts.
Or are you worried that he's after your attitude stripes? :P
--
Neil Bothwick
Life is
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:32:41 +0800
微蔡 wrote:
> 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41，Bruce Hill 写道：
> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann
> > wrote:
> > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't
> > > want is forced upon you. If it is also based on lies,
On Nov 11, 2012 9:22 PM, "微蔡" wrote:
>
> 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 13:59:50，Jorge Almeida 写道：
> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:38 PM, pk wrote:
> > > On 2012-11-11 13:24, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> > >> or later, but isn't it a nice coincidence that this perl is a
product of
> > >> the same totalitarian mindset
在 2012年11月11日 星期日 13:59:50，Jorge Almeida 写道：
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:38 PM, pk wrote:
> > On 2012-11-11 13:24, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> >> or later, but isn't it a nice coincidence that this perl is a product of
> >> the same totalitarian mindset that is determined to poison Linux?
> >
> > Can'
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 21:32:41 schrieb 微蔡:
> 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41，Bruce Hill 写道：
>
> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't want is
> > > forced upon you. If it is also based on l
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:38 PM, pk wrote:
> On 2012-11-11 13:24, Jorge Almeida wrote:
>
>> or later, but isn't it a nice coincidence that this perl is a product of the
>> same totalitarian mindset that is determined to poison Linux?
>
> Can't we just calm down and try to be reasonably nice? I rea
On 2012-11-11 13:52, 微蔡 wrote:
> ok , then why hate systemd ? you seems to hate systemd with no reason.
This is my last reply to this thread. I dislike systemd, for the reasons
I've already stated. Please re-read my responses if you want to know why
I dislike systemd. What I do _hate_ is being fo
On 2012-11-11 13:24, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> or later, but isn't it a nice coincidence that this perl is a product of the
> same totalitarian mindset that is determined to poison Linux?
Can't we just calm down and try to be reasonably nice? I really didn't
intend to start a flame war here... I jus
在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41，Bruce Hill 写道：
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't want is
> > forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a valid reaction. A
> > lot of people don't need n
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
> hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't want is
> forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a valid reaction. A lot
> of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or systemd. Now it is forc
在 2012年11月11日 星期日 13:28:35，pk 写道：
> On 2012-11-11 08:33, 微蔡 wrote:
> > byebye haters . Comunitiy doesn't need people like you.
>
> Ah, instead of a rational explanation of what kind of problem systemd
> solves for me you conclude: I'm a hater?... Well, I do hate solutions
> looking for problems
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 20:03:33 schrieb 微蔡:
> 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 12:09:46，Volker Armin Hemmann 写道：
>
> > Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb 微蔡:
> > > 在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45，pk 写道：
> > >
> > > > On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote:
> > > > > :) systemd is coming whether you or
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:03:33 +0800, 微蔡 wrote:
> sorry about that. different sulotion is good, but *hate* is bad.
> because when you do some techical decisions , *hate* will lead to
> wrong decisions.
Which is why we were doing fine here until *you* introduced hate into the
thread.
--
Neil B
On 2012-11-11 08:33, 微蔡 wrote:
> byebye haters . Comunitiy doesn't need people like you.
Ah, instead of a rational explanation of what kind of problem systemd
solves for me you conclude: I'm a hater?... Well, I do hate solutions
looking for problems to solve, especially where there are none to
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb 微蔡:
>> 在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45，pk 写道：
>>
>> byebye haters . Comunitiy doesn't need people like you.
>
>
>
>> You maybe paid by some Linux hate company to express like this.
T
在 2012年11月11日 星期日 12:09:46，Volker Armin Hemmann 写道：
> Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb 微蔡:
> > 在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45，pk 写道：
> >
> > > On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote:
> > > > :) systemd is coming whether you or I like it or not so I'm trying to
> > > >
> > > > stay a bit ahead
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb 微蔡:
> 在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45，pk 写道：
>
> > On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote:
> > > :) systemd is coming whether you or I like it or not so I'm trying to
> > >
> > > stay a bit ahead of the tsunami, that's all.
> >
> > Yes, systemd may be coming
在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45，pk 写道：
> On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote:
> > :) systemd is coming whether you or I like it or not so I'm trying to
> >
> > stay a bit ahead of the tsunami, that's all.
>
> Yes, systemd may be coming and may even become mandatory for
the Linux
> kernel (given it's mar
On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote:
> :) systemd is coming whether you or I like it or not so I'm trying to
> stay a bit ahead of the tsunami, that's all.
Yes, systemd may be coming and may even become mandatory for the Linux
kernel (given it's marriage with udev). when that comes, I'd rather go
*B
walt wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 06:30 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Me, if I was going to switch, I'd use a second install or copy my
>> current install to another partition, just in case I can't get around
>> that curve. ;-)
>
> Heh, you didn't think I started with my real machine, right? I've
> spent the last
On 11/09/2012 06:30 PM, Dale wrote:
Me, if I was going to switch, I'd use a second install or copy my
current install to another partition, just in case I can't get around
that curve. ;-)
Heh, you didn't think I started with my real machine, right? I've spent the
last week rebooting a Virtua
On 11/09/2012 03:13 PM, pk wrote:
On 2012-11-09 23:53, walt wrote:
You Lennart haters out there (and I was one of you not so long ago ;)
now I think he's not so bad after all. He just doesn't know yet how to
explain things properly to old farts.
Good for you. I really don't see the point in
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