On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 18:43:04 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hello, Rick, thanks for the reply.
[... cut all the emerge output, quotes and text in between ...]
What the heck is going on, when a package management system can't even
make a decision on which version of perl to use,
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 05:11:32PM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:29:35 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés
can...@gmail.com wrote:
If I understood correctly, you need to:
emerge -C sys-power/upower
emerge -1v sys-power/upower-pm-utils
and then update world as usual.
Yes is
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On 06/09/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 05:11:32PM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:29:35 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés
can...@gmail.com wrote:
If I understood correctly, you need to:
emerge -C
On 06/09/2014 06:34 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 05:11:32PM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:29:35 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés
can...@gmail.com wrote:
If I understood correctly, you need to:
emerge -C sys-power/upower
emerge -1v sys-power/upower-pm-utils
Hello, Rick, thanks for the reply.
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:18:41PM -0400, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:
On 06/09/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
I do this:
emerge --unmerge upower
emerge -1vp sys-power/upower-pm-utils
, and I still get portage threatening to merge that
On 6/4/2014 9:47 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
You seem to think the Upower devs simply decided to use systemd instead
of doing it themselves. In fact, they were always using code, from either
systemd or pm-utils. The fact that development stopped on pm-utils is
neither the fault
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
First question: is there a decent guide to installing a gentoo system from
scratch using systemd as the init system?
I've done this a few times on VMs. Just follow the handbook, but skip
steps about configuring
On 06/04/2014 11:11 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
To see this as only freedom for the developer is part of an attitude
shift over the years that only lessens the overall usefulness of Linux
and FOSS. It does, in fact,
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400
Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
Thanks everybody for your help. I've made the further suggested
changes, but I remain with the three hard blocks.
Can you provide the emerge output of the following command?
emerge --tree --unordered-diplay -uDNv @world
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 00:27:28 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
I suppose its now time for an uninstall. Kind of disappointing; we
are told Gentoo is about choices, and in fact that's true. I made
the choice to use a
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:34:49 -0400
Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/04/2014 11:11 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
It is a discussion about technological things, yes, but the art of
dealing with other people *is* politics [1].
Politics are also about dealing with power, not alone
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, the advocates and implementers made some major political
choices when they (apparently deliberately) chose to put the systemd
stuff in /usr/lib instead of /lib. It was pointed out that this
abrogated
On 05/06/14 14:11, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, the advocates and implementers made some major political
choices when they (apparently deliberately) chose to put the systemd
stuff in /usr/lib instead of /lib. It
On 06/04/2014 08:02 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 05/06/14 02:15, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17,
On 05/06/14 14:39, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 08:02 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
Gentoo doesn't have write access to ::mate-overlay, it's completely
unofficial
Gentoo developers are just as much users as you are for ::mate-overlay
Enough said
- Samuli
Sorry, but this isn't just
On 06/05/2014 05:40 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400
Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
Thanks everybody for your help. I've made the further suggested
changes, but I remain with the three hard blocks.
Can you provide the emerge output of the following command?
On 06/05/2014 08:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 05/06/14 14:39, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 08:02 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
Gentoo doesn't have write access to ::mate-overlay, it's completely
unofficial
Gentoo developers are just as much users as you are for ::mate-overlay
On 05/06/14 15:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/05/2014 08:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 05/06/14 14:39, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 08:02 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
Gentoo doesn't have write access to ::mate-overlay, it's completely
unofficial
Gentoo developers are just as much
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:11:31 -0400
Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
[nomerge ] mate-base/mate-1.6.0::mate-overlay
You are still using the MATE overlay, which wasn't synced up with
the latest changes; make layman sync, but if you want to be really sure
just remove the overlay from layman
Sent:Thursday, June 05, 2014 at 8:18 AM
From:Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org
To:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject:Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower
On 05/06/14 15:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/05/2014 08:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 05/06/14 14:39, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06
Sent:Thursday, June 05, 2014 at 8:31 AM
From:Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org
To:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject:Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:11:31 -0400
Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
[nomerge ] mate-base/mate-1.6.0::mate-overlay
You are still using the MATE
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 16:15:11 +0200
Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
If you could point me to the proper command set to make the switch,
I'd appreciate it.
Remove the overlay (`layman -d mate`) and then do a world upgrade.
It is as simple as that, as it'll upgrade all those packages to the
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 15:15:11 Dutch Ingraham wrote:
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On 06/05/2014 11:40 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 16:15:11 +0200
Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
If you could point me to the proper command set to make the switch,
I'd appreciate it.
Remove the overlay (`layman -d mate`) and then do a world upgrade.
It is as simple as
On 06/03/2014 10:05 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, systemd is a more elegant solution than the patchworks that have
been applied several times to the original SysV concept.
Glad to see you recognize that.
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
Unfortunately, the xfce stuff is not, so even if the overlay
Am 04.06.2014 13:22, schrieb Daniel Troeder:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
Unfortunately, the
On 6/3/2014 1:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 6/3/2014 11:10 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
infrastructure
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:17:21 -0400
Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
MATE 1.6 is stable in the Portage tree, MATE 1.8 is testing in the
Portage tree; both had their upower dependencies fixed up days ago.
--
With kind regards,
Tom
On 04/06/14 15:15, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 13:22, schrieb Daniel Troeder:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than build it
to work independently of the init system), this will in fact result in
*users* (read: those lacking the skills to code every program out there
On 04/06/14 15:21, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 6/3/2014 1:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Tanstaafl
tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 6/3/2014 11:10 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep
On 04/06/14 15:58, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than build it
to work independently of the init system), this will in fact result in
*users* (read: those lacking the
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:21:51 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than
build it to work independently of the init system),
Reusing existing, proven code is not laziness, it is efficiency. Yes,
they could code their own version, but all the time
On 04/06/14 16:47, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:21:51 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than
build it to work independently of the init system),
Reusing existing, proven code is not laziness, it is efficiency. Yes,
they
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/03/2014 10:05 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, systemd is a more elegant solution than the patchworks that have
been applied several times
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 6/3/2014 1:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
[ ... ]
Who is forcing anything?
I was specifically referring to your comment that:
The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
Unfortunately, the
Am Wed, 04 Jun 2014 16:08:02 +0300
schrieb Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org:
[...]
So yeah, only working with what upstreams provide as a distribution
maintainer/packager, and people shouldn't try to dump this somehow on
me. Fact that
they have some fallback, like upower-pm-utils at all,
On Wednesday 04 June 2014 20:28:22 Marc Joliet wrote:
I'm grateful! In fact, since I have this opportunity: thank you and all the
other devs for your hard work, and for withstanding insufferable users :) .
[AOL]
Me too.
[/AOL]
--
Regards
Peter
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No,
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
I suppose its now time for an uninstall. Kind of disappointing; we are
told Gentoo is about choices, and in fact that's true. I made the
choice to use a pure openRC system. The last 7 hours of free time,
though, was spent trying,
On 05/06/14 02:15, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not
On 05/06/14 02:25, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen:
On
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 05/06/14 02:25, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM,
On 05/06/14 03:22, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
This effected stable tree of Gentoo as well, pulling undesired
different layout into stable is something that should have been
avoided. It is about time we split the profiles, systemd is not option
for people who runs openrc.
Indeed, I support the idea
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 05/06/14 03:22, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
This effected stable tree of Gentoo as well, pulling undesired
different layout into stable is something that should have been
avoided. It is about time we split the profiles,
Hello,
mean this i must install now systemd? What can do when i not want systemd.
The system what i have is good, i want not change to systemd.
[ebuild U ~] sys-devel/gettext-0.19 [0.18.3.2] USE=acl cxx ncurses nls
openmp -cvs -doc -emacs -git -java -static-libs 16,221 kB
[ebuild R]
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
Hello,
mean this i must install now systemd? What can do when i not want systemd.
The system what i have is good, i want not change to systemd.
[ebuild U ~] sys-devel/gettext-0.19 [0.18.3.2] USE=acl cxx ncurses nls
On Tuesday 03 June 2014 09:29:35 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
If I understood correctly, you need to:
emerge -C sys-power/upower
emerge -1v sys-power/upower-pm-utils
and then update world as usual.
That worked for me - thanks Canek. Portage no longer tries to break a blockage
circle, and
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
On Tuesday 03 June 2014 09:29:35 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
If I understood correctly, you need to:
emerge -C sys-power/upower
emerge -1v sys-power/upower-pm-utils
and then update world as usual.
That worked for
On 03/06/14 18:10, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Maybe a news item explaining the switch of upower would help those who
haven't
blundered into this yet.
Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
infrastructure migrates towards systemd. Perhaps a news item everytime
On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:29:35 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés
can...@gmail.com wrote:
If I understood correctly, you need to:
emerge -C sys-power/upower
emerge -1v sys-power/upower-pm-utils
and then update world as usual.
Yes is correct, i has find out after read ebuilds from the packages which
On 03/06/2014 16:29, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
Hello,
mean this i must install now systemd? What can do when i not want systemd.
The system what i have is good, i want not change to systemd.
[ebuild U ~]
On 6/3/2014 11:10 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
infrastructure migrates towards systemd. Perhaps a news item everytime
it happens is unrealistic?
Weren't you the one saying that those of us who were
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 6/3/2014 11:10 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
infrastructure migrates towards systemd. Perhaps a news item everytime
it
On 03/06/2014 18:48, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 6/3/2014 11:10 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
infrastructure migrates towards systemd. Perhaps a news item everytime
it happens is unrealistic?
Weren't you the
On 03/06/2014 19:08, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Who is forcing anything? pm-utils has been unmaintained FOR FIVE
YEARS. Any project that decides to stop using it is making just the
right decision; UPower just did the correct thing. And systemd had
*nothing* to do with it, except for providing
Am 03.06.2014 22:14, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
This whole systemd thing looks awfully like the switch from a hosts file
to DNS so many years ago.
Not really. What many people bothers about systemd is that it is getting
more and more
a) a hard dependancy for software projects, e.g. like GNOME,
On 03/06/2014 23:01, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Am 03.06.2014 22:14, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
This whole systemd thing looks awfully like the switch from a hosts file
to DNS so many years ago.
Not really. What many people bothers about systemd is that it is getting
more and more
a) a hard
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Incidentally, what exactly is wrong with systemd writing a dhcp server
client, and an ntp client? Is that project prohibited from writing such
software? Are they not allowed to do it? Does it break legal laws?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Incidentally, what exactly is wrong with systemd writing a dhcp server
client, and an ntp client? Is that project prohibited from
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 23:01:20 +0200, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Even Linus Torvalds himself ranted about the attitude of systemd's
developers at the beginning of May this year.
Linus rants about everything and everyone, usually at least twice, once
for and once against. It proves nothing beyond Linus
On 04/06/2014 00:06, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
[...]
Incidentally, what exactly is wrong with systemd writing a dhcp server
client, and an
On 04/06/2014 00:59, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 23:01:20 +0200, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Even Linus Torvalds himself ranted about the attitude of systemd's
developers at the beginning of May this year.
Linus rants about everything and everyone, usually at least twice, once
for
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
[...]
Incidentally, what exactly is wrong with systemd writing a
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/06/2014 00:59, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 23:01:20 +0200, Marc Stürmer wrote:
Even Linus Torvalds himself ranted about the attitude of systemd's
developers at the beginning of May this year.
On 6/3/2014 16:13, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
[...]
Incidentally,
On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 01:06:52 +0300
Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Once again, you do not understand the claim.
If a user of Gentoo chooses to use non systemd profile, it means that
we need to make sure systemd will not be a valid option, ever.
There is no such thing as a non systemd
On 06/03/2014 07:24 PM, Jim Burwell wrote:
FWIW, on my system, I had to mask sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
for it to merge the udev update w/o trying to pull in systemd, et al. i
didn't deep dive on what was trying to pull that in, but masking it
(plus a ton of other stuff I have
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/03/2014 07:24 PM, Jim Burwell wrote:
FWIW, on my system, I had to mask sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
for it to merge the udev update w/o trying to pull in systemd, et al. i
didn't deep dive on what was trying to
On 06/03/2014 11:14 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 03/06/14 18:10, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Maybe a news item explaining the switch of upower would help those who
haven't
blundered into this yet.
Maybe. The thing is, this is going to keep happening, as more and more
infrastructure
On 06/03/2014 01:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Who is forcing anything? pm-utils has been unmaintained FOR FIVE
YEARS. Any project that decides to stop using it is making just the
right decision; UPower just did the correct thing. And systemd had
*nothing* to do with it, except for
On 06/03/2014 09:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/03/2014 07:24 PM, Jim Burwell wrote:
FWIW, on my system, I had to mask sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
for it to merge the udev update w/o trying to pull in systemd,
On 06/03/2014 09:48 PM, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/03/2014 09:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/03/2014 07:24 PM, Jim Burwell wrote:
FWIW, on my system, I had to mask sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
for it to merge
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/03/2014 01:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Who is forcing anything? pm-utils has been unmaintained FOR FIVE
YEARS. Any project that decides to stop using it is making just the
right decision; UPower just did the
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/03/2014 09:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/03/2014 07:24 PM, Jim Burwell wrote:
FWIW, on my system, I had to mask
On 06/03/2014 09:57 PM, Michael Cook wrote:
On 06/03/2014 09:48 PM, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
On 06/03/2014 09:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Dutch Ingraham s...@gmx.us wrote:
On 06/03/2014 07:24 PM, Jim Burwell wrote:
FWIW, on my system, I had to mask
On 04/06/14 05:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
No, sys-fs/udev is not masked, but an update is indicated in the
emerge above. That's a good catch, the MATE stuff is from the overlay.
Unfortunately, the xfce stuff is not, so even if the overlay currency
was an issue, I'll still be showing some
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