Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:08:13 +0200, Rumen Yotov wrote: Regarding claws-mail there's a script to rebuild it's plugins - see elogs. Since i first tried paludis-0.2.1, may still have some old use info (laziness) about paludis USE-flag (IIRC revdep-rebuild portage-utils, etc.had it). flagedit will warn you if you have any unsupported USE flags set. That and eix-test-obsolete are useful for keeping make.conf and /etc/portage clear of cruft. -- Neil Bothwick Captain, I sense millions of minds focused on my cleavage. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:17:03 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: put this in your make.conf: SEARCH_DIRS_MASK=/opt /home This should really go in /etc/revdep-rebuild/99revdep-rebuild nowadays. -- Neil Bothwick If you think that you can truncate my sig to 75 chars, then you can just fu signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? Yes, and very satisfied. Even with the earlier versions. ralf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell PowerEdge 2600 / 2800? AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver?
On 20 Dec 2007, at 07:26, kashani wrote: Stroller wrote: Just a quick question to see if any of the list members are using Gentoo - or any other Linux distro for that matter - on Dell PowerEdge 2600 or 2800 servers? ... I used Redhat, Fedora, and Gentoo on 2550, 1650, 2650, 1750, 1850, and 2850 PowerEdge servers ... Blimey! You obviously know your stuff. So how do you find Gentoo measures up to Redhat / Fedora on these machines? Other than the CPU/RAM the main different between 2650, 2850, and 2950 was the SCSI card. I'd choose the 2850 over the 2650 given a choice for anything with heavy I/O and the 2950 are noticeably faster than the 2850 for our db stuff. Ours is a 2800, and it's the 2600 that I find most readily / cheaply available. Looks like the xx50 models are the rack-mount lower- profile models of the same generation. Looks like they're more expensive secondhand and it's not obvious if hot-swap PSUs are available? The machines at this site aren't under high-load, so that's not really a problem. We like this class of servers for the redundancy of the moving-and-failure-prone kind of parts (PSU disks). If I might ask some follow-up questions: Are the SCSI cards in these models the same brand / chipset / Linux driver, please? Or are they completely different? The SCSI on 2850's should be megaraid and you want the megaraid-new driver and Linux kernels would have issues if you tried to build both new and old so just pick new. (this might have changed in the past year since I've built a custom kernel for a 2850). I never had driver issues with any distro provided kernel or my own kernels. Thanks for that pointer. IIRC you can pull the megarc RPMs from Dell's website and install them. I never got around to making them work with Gentoo, but it shouldn't be terribly hard. I don't know of anything in the normal driver that will tell you any ifo about status or failed drives, but I never looked that hard. Hmmmn... googling a bit further I find that `megarc` are the userspace utilities for these cards, and that they're only available as binaries. I feel my enthusiasm for these units flagging - the cost savings of buying secondhand aren't so much that I wouldn't rather find a fully-OSS alternative. I bought most of my 2850's about two years ago. Dual Xeon's, 8GB, 6 x 10k 146GB drives, and remote management card for about $4000. Yeah, we paid £1300, I think, at about the same time. Dual Xeons the DRAC, but much less RAM disk-space. Stroller.-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell PowerEdge 2600 / 2800? AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver?
On 20 Dec 2007, at 07:31, Steve Dommett wrote: On Thursday 20 December 2007, Stroller wrote: I maintain a few Poweredges, I think mostly 2950. Just yesterday we swapped a drive on the Fusion MPT SAS controller. We were prompted to take the drive out of service by an email from 'smartd'... After failing and removing the drive from the array using 'mdadm', we tried hotswapping the drive, and whilst nothing untoward happened when we pulled the drive there were no kernel messages either. ... We had to reboot the server to get it to see the replacement drive. Funnily enough, I've experienced something similar on this 2800 of ours the last couple of days, also a prefailure. This machine is running Windows, and the new drive was recognised in OpenManage Server Administrator https://localhost:1311 but despite it showing exactly the same size (68.24gig) as the other two already installed (as RAID1) when I tried to assign it as global hot-spare I got directed to a message saying that it was insufficient to accommodate all virtual disks. The Dell tech support guy - who has been BRILLIANTLY helpful over a simple failed drive, by the way - advised installing the latest firmware updates. After rebooting the drive has been fine, and I was able to allocate as hot-spare with a single click, although I guess I can't say whether this is because of the updates or of just the reboot. But the engineer also mentioned these updates, so multiple sources concur, at least. The DRAC remote-administration unit also seems much more responsive with the newer firmware. ... I was expecting something similar to when I've hotplugged SATA drives on my desktop machine. What controller is in that, please? Does it do hardware RAID, or is it just a regular SATA controller? I've been reading a little about hotplugging SATA recently, and as I understand it hotplugging is a part of the SATA specification in a way that it's not in EIDE (or even SCSI?). But what I read also stated that SATA controllers are not _required_ to support hot- plugging, either. This makes choosing an SATA more complicated, of course - I can't hep thinking it's easiest to plump for a SATA controller advertised to do hot-swap hardware RAID - I imagine this might be better marketed than a regular SATA controller that happens to support hot-swapping (but no RAID). Due simply to the price of disks we'd tend to choose hot-plug SATA RAID over hot-plug SCSI, if were to buy new. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 22:58:25 Walter Dnes wrote: This is a wonderful idea, and I have it implemented now. Sounds pretty good to me too! emerge acpi Doing that didn't give me this file: change the uncommented lines in /etc/acpi/events/default to read event=.* action=chvt 1 What other packages do I need to install, besides sys-power/acpi? -- Rgds Peter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Thursday 20 December 2007 10:08:13 Rumen Yotov wrote: Watch out for some scripts (perl-cleaner, claw-mail, etc.) in which the use of portage/emerge is embedded. Put 'paludis' as USE-flag. Unless you use a crappy, unsupported overlay no such use flag exists. [...] Regarding claws-mail there's a script to rebuild it's plugins - see elogs. Ok. Since i first tried paludis-0.2.1, may still have some old use info (laziness) about paludis USE-flag (IIRC revdep-rebuild portage-utils, etc.had it). [...] There's also a paludis-extras overlay, which is rather separated from official paludis but have some nice things (and problems sometimes ;-). That was actually the 'crappy, unsupported overlay' I was referring to. That also is where the packages with a paludis use flag came from. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Thursday 20 December 2007 09:43:20 Neil Bothwick wrote: flagedit will warn you if you have any unsupported USE flags set. That and eix-test-obsolete are useful for keeping make.conf and /etc/portage clear of cruft. And the config-decruft ruby script that can be used with Paludis can do the same (and more) in a much more verbose manner. :) -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge multiple-versions-in-same-slot weirdness with X11 libs...
Walter Dnes wrote: I just did an emerge --sync followed by an ask fetchonly, which I do to avoid unpleasant surprises. Emerge is sending the following message to stderr. I don't like the concept of masking out stuff for an ordinary emerge. Any idea what gives? SNIP Ditto. u, +1 or whatever. Basically, same thing here. You are not alone. Dale :-) :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup
Hi Jeff, On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: I have checked, and ndiswrapper and the rtl8187 package were uninstalled. I think that the problem I have may be more basic. The card I have is an 8197, not an 8187. I wonder if this is part of the problem. Could it be that the kernel driver does not support the 8197? The attached weblink suggests that this may be the case: http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/2007/09/26/no-more-vista/ Does anyone know how I can locate the equivalent code in the kernel and perhaps perform a similar modification? (can you please stop top-posting, it makes reading of threads difficult in this mailing list). Your device may still be supported by the driver. The problem may exist with the wpa_supplicant. You could try commenting out the wpa_supplicant in your /etc/conf.d/net file and using net-wireless/wireless-tools instead. Then try again to see if it a)finds the access point (try iwlist wlan0 scanning), b)associates with it (try iwlist wlan0 accesspoint) . Of course you will need to remove WPA from the AP. Should all this succeed you can work your way up from there. PS. I haven't managed to make wpa_supplicant work with my device rt2570usb for more than a year now, but haven't tried recently. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
This has been going on for some time, but nothing has yet gone bang! I can't understand what the errors mean. They seem to occur every other day. The machine is a laptop. Also I am not sure if these errors occurred when I forced a reboot a few times when a WiFi USB driver crashed and locked up my keyboard. Should I be worried? == # cat /var/log/messages | grep Prefailure Dec 17 13:36:15 lappy smartd[6284]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 98 Dec 17 22:00:27 lappy smartd[6267]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 98 to 99 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 100 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 105 to 100 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 120 to 100 Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 100 to 105 Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 100 to 116 == -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
I set up a server system a little while ago, and in performing updates to portage it ran out of disk space as I didn't quite allow enough space on the root partition (3.8 GB). As a result, I took a partition that I had cleaned up (this was from a rebuild of a system that was a different distro in the past) and moved over /usr/portage to it. It's a 47 GB partition (as reported by df -h) and the system works fine. I do realize that if the mount command got screwed up, I'd probably have issues recovering the system, but that is that system. I am now thinking of converting my desktop over to Gentoo as well, and was wondering whether what I did above on the server was wise or not. I will be using the server as the portage provider for my desktop too. Otherwise, what is the recommended space to have available for the portage tree in /usr/portage so I can have root as an appropriately sized partition? TIA, Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 16:32:26 Albert Hopkins wrote: The way I see it there are two possible solutions: 1. Create a new runlevel, say nox and just don't put xdm in the runlevel. The drawback to this is you have to maintain another runlevel. I don't see what maintenance load this imposes. I have a no-x runlevel for when I don't want a GUI, and since creating it and populating it I've never had to touch it. In practice, it turns out that the only differences between my default and no-x are the presence of gpm in no-x and of xdm and lm_sensors in default. (I use lm_sensors for gkrellm, which of course, although indispensable on the desktop, isn't much use in a character display.) -- Rgds Peter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
On Thursday 20 December 2007 02:53:17 Dale wrote: I did a euse -i gcj but it may as well be greek. When I did that, the output was peppered with these: /etc/make.conf: line 40: PORTAGE_RSYNC_INITIAL_TIMEOUT: command not found /etc/make.conf: line 41: PORTAGE_RSYNC_RETRIES: command not found I see that the former is no longer in /etc/make.conf/example, so I've now removed it, but the latter is still there and I'd like to continue to use it. Is this a case of document version lagging behind what's being documented? -- Rgds Peter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Mick wrote: This has been going on for some time, but nothing has yet gone bang! I can't understand what the errors mean. They seem to occur every other day. The machine is a laptop. Also I am not sure if these errors occurred when I forced a reboot a few times when a WiFi USB driver crashed and locked up my keyboard. Should I be worried? == # cat /var/log/messages | grep Prefailure Dec 17 13:36:15 lappy smartd[6284]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 98 Dec 17 22:00:27 lappy smartd[6267]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 98 to 99 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 100 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 105 to 100 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 120 to 100 Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 100 to 105 Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 100 to 116 == I get those a lot too. I have a question, can you post the output of hdparm -i /dev/hda . I have two Maxtor drives and both of mine gives a very similar error. My Western Digital doesn't have any errors at all. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
I won't answer you with a size since its mainly depends on your own needs, but don't you know that solutions like lvm or evms provide lots of flexibility to manage your HD resources ? I advise you to look at lvm howto. It allows you to add/remove/move/enlarge your partitions as you need in a truly painless way. To avoid major mounting problems (can be done but with caution), let /boot and / outside lvm, and put the others in logical volumes. Gal' On Dec 20, 2007 10:50 AM, Benjamen R. Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I set up a server system a little while ago, and in performing updates to portage it ran out of disk space as I didn't quite allow enough space on the root partition (3.8 GB). As a result, I took a partition that I had cleaned up (this was from a rebuild of a system that was a different distro in the past) and moved over /usr/portage to it. It's a 47 GB partition (as reported by df -h) and the system works fine. I do realize that if the mount command got screwed up, I'd probably have issues recovering the system, but that is that system. I am now thinking of converting my desktop over to Gentoo as well, and was wondering whether what I did above on the server was wise or not. I will be using the server as the portage provider for my desktop too. Otherwise, what is the recommended space to have available for the portage tree in /usr/portage so I can have root as an appropriately sized partition? TIA, Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
On Thursday 20 December 2007 10:50:33 Benjamen R. Meyer wrote: I set up a server system a little while ago, and in performing updates to portage it ran out of disk space as I didn't quite allow enough space on the root partition (3.8 GB). That's way too much. 256M is enough. As a result, I took a partition that I had cleaned up (this was from a rebuild of a system that was a different distro in the past) and moved over /usr/portage to it. It's a 47 GB partition (as reported by df -h) and the system works fine. I do realize that if the mount command got screwed up, I'd probably have issues recovering the system, but that is that system. I am now thinking of converting my desktop over to Gentoo as well, and was wondering whether what I did above on the server was wise or not. I think it is not. You'll undoubtedly get different answers about this, but IMHO it is best (regardless what kind of system) to use small, special purpose logical volumes. This way you can add space when needed, use the filesystem that fits best for the kind of data you store on this volume and have a certain degree of safety against volume corruption. Here is what I would recommend for a normal linux system: [hs]da1: /boot, 64M, ext2 [hs]da2: /, 256M, ext3 or xfs [hs]da3: LVM Then, create a volume group spawning [hs]da3 with name vg00 (you can choose the name freely) and create logical volumes inside: /dev/vg00/swap: size as needed, swapfs # can be omitted if enough RAM /dev/vg00/usr: /usr, 2-5G (dep. on number of pkgs), ext3 or xfs /dev/vg00/var: /var, 512M-1G, ext3 or xfs For /home, I prefer to have one LV per user, like /dev/vg00/john_doe, /dev/vg00/jane_doe and have the kernel automounter mount them on demand (at login time). I will be using the server as the portage provider for my desktop too. Otherwise, what is the recommended space to have available for the portage tree in /usr/portage so I can have root as an appropriately sized partition? Here again, I use the kernel automounter to mount three different LVs under /gentoo when needed: /dev/vg00/build (5.5G to be able to build OO.org), /dev/vg00/distfiles for the source packages and /dev/vg00/overlays for overlays, incl. the portage tree. On the desktop machine, you should be able to mount distfiles and overlays from the server via NFS. The build volume I would leave locally on the desktop to get faster build times (unless your network connection to your server is faster than harddisc access). HTH... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Mick ha scritto: This has been going on for some time, but nothing has yet gone bang! I can't understand what the errors mean. They seem to occur every other day. The machine is a laptop. Also I am not sure if these errors occurred when I forced a reboot a few times when a WiFi USB driver crashed and locked up my keyboard. Should I be worried? == # cat /var/log/messages | grep Prefailure Dec 17 13:36:15 lappy smartd[6284]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 98 Dec 17 22:00:27 lappy smartd[6267]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 98 to 99 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 100 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 105 to 100 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 120 to 100 Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 100 to 105 Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 100 to 116 == Hard to say. Given my experience (recently I had smart warnings on a hd, which led me to a sweaty internet hunt for meaning of my errors -in my case, it turned out better to throw it out), they look like non critical. However, do a smartctl long test to really see what's happening. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
i tried what Neil suggested: put this in your make.conf: SEARCH_DIRS_MASK=/opt /home This should really go in /etc/revdep-rebuild/99revdep-rebuild nowadays. same thing continue to bugs me even with this :\ dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 rebilds again :| -- purple..
[gentoo-user] Re: Mounting Question...
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I would recommend for a normal linux system: [hs]da1: /boot, 64M, ext2 [hs]da2: /, 256M, ext3 or xfs [hs]da3: LVM I used to use something like this for a long time as well, but I think it was Neil from this list, who made me think about that - what's the use of /boot here? Why a seperate /boot partition? Anyway, I now stopped using a seperate /boot and integrated it with /, so that I only need to have this: [hs]da1: /, 512m, ext3, reiserfs or maybe xfs [hs]da2: swap, size as needed [hs]da3: LVM I don't have swap on LVM, as I'd like to do suspend-to-disk, which is easier to do with an old-style partition. And I also don't resize my swap partition. But if I'd need *additional* swap, I'd create that as a LV on LVM - it's just the primary SWAP, which I like to keep off-LVM. Regards, Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
Portage can continue to build packages if one fails. # emerge -options package/list_of_packages || until emerge -same_options_as_before package/list_of_packages ; do : ;done All with a little help from bash, of course. I think Andressen taught me this trick. It makes no sense to leave your box on overnight only to find that it quit emerge 10 minutes into your sleep because of one package failure to install/build. Unisys | 370 Jay St. Storage Room 66 | Brooklyn, NY 11201 |NYCT: (718) 243-5086 Personal Cell Phone #: (646) 724-5776 -Original Message- From: Iain Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:46 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 22:42 +0100, Zsitvai János wrote: And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me over all over again. :) I've been wondering for a long time why portage doesn't continue with building other packages when one fails - so long as deps are met why stop? Acutally, while I'm on the subject of features - here's another one I'd like to see: parallel merges instead of parallel makes. Since many packages have problems with MAKEOPTS, it doesn't help with configure scripts anyway and other parts of the process, why not spawn 2 or 3 emerges automatically? Each one could do it's own tree of packages and dependencies that don't affect the other... would be nice IMHO. cya, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au People think love is an emotion. Love is good sense. -- Ken Kesey -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] {OT} Ditch webmail?
I've been using squirrelmail on my server and I think I'd like to switch to a desktop app. I'm the only user. Is sylpheed-claws the only one bound to satisfy a Gentooer? Is anyone pro-webmail? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mounting Question...
On Thursday 20 December 2007 15:39:59 Alexander Skwar wrote: Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I would recommend for a normal linux system: [hs]da1: /boot, 64M, ext2 [hs]da2: /, 256M, ext3 or xfs [hs]da3: LVM I used to use something like this for a long time as well, but I think it was Neil from this list, who made me think about that - what's the use of /boot here? Why a seperate /boot partition? OK, in reality I have / on LVM also (needs an initramfs, of course), so I need to have them separated. The other reason is fs choice. If you don't need this, you can also merge / and /boot. I don't have swap on LVM, as I'd like to do suspend-to-disk, which is easier to do with an old-style partition. And I also don't resize my swap partition. But if I'd need *additional* swap, I'd create that as a LV on LVM - it's just the primary SWAP, which I like to keep off-LVM. Good point. I also don't do suspend-to-disk, so I make it a LV or even leave it out completely on systems with =1G RAM, but there may be cases where swap is needed even with this large amount of memory. Bye... Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:12:17 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Then, create a volume group spawning [hs]da3 with name vg00 (you can choose the name freely) and create logical volumes inside: I'd use a less generic name, otherwise you'll have problems if the computer fails and you try to connect the disk to another computer that has a vg00 volume group. I generally use a name related to the computer's hostname, which avoids conflicts. -- Neil Bothwick .sig a .sog of sixpence. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:40:29 +0100, purple wrote: This should really go in /etc/revdep-rebuild/99revdep-rebuild nowadays. same thing continue to bugs me even with this :\ dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 rebilds again :| Doesn't the ebuild create such a file for you? I have /etc/revdep-rebuild/61-sun-jdk-1.6 containing SEARCH_DIRS_MASK=/opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.03 -- Neil Bothwick What was the greatest thing BEFORE sliced bread? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] re-emerge glibc after linux-headers update?
The ELOG for my linux-headers update says: Kernel headers are usually only used when recompiling your system libc, as such, following the installation of newer headers, it is advised that you re-merge your system libc. Failure to do so will cause your system libc to not make use of newer features present in the updated kernel headers. Should I re-emerge glibc? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:46:12 -0600, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: Portage can continue to build packages if one fails. # emerge -options package/list_of_packages || until emerge -same_options_as_before package/list_of_packages ; do : ;done Yes it can, but not with this, which will repeatedly try to build the same package until entropy stops it. You need emerge -opts pkglist || untill emerge --resume --skipfirst; do : ; done but this is a kludge as you will be eying to build packages when their dependencies failed. I would hope the paludis option is more intelligent. -- Neil Bothwick When you are out of whack, the best thing to do is to order more whack. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Ditch webmail?
On 2007-12-20, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using squirrelmail on my server and I think I'd like to switch to a desktop app. I'm the only user. Is sylpheed-claws the only one bound to satisfy a Gentooer? Nah, mutt is the only mail client for the truely Gentoo-at-heart. Is anyone pro-webmail? I guess it's better than smoke signals... -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Will the third world at war keep Bosom Buddies visi.comoff the air? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Ditch webmail?
I've been using squirrelmail on my server and I think I'd like to switch to a desktop app. I'm the only user. Is sylpheed-claws the only one bound to satisfy a Gentooer? Nah, mutt is the only mail client for the truely Gentoo-at-heart. I used mutt for a long time but when I tried squirrelmail my productivity when up 5 fold. I'm thinking switching to a desktop app would be even better. Plus no PHP on my server. - Grant Is anyone pro-webmail? I guess it's better than smoke signals... -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Will the third world -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 19 December 2007 22:58:25 Walter Dnes wrote: This is a wonderful idea, and I have it implemented now. Sounds pretty good to me too! emerge acpi Doing that didn't give me this file: change the uncommented lines in /etc/acpi/events/default to read event=.* action=chvt 1 What other packages do I need to install, besides sys-power/acpi? You have to emerge sys-power/acpid, not sys-power/acpi. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Ditch webmail?
Grant wrote: I used mutt for a long time but when I tried squirrelmail my productivity when up 5 fold. I'm thinking switching to a desktop app would be even better. Plus no PHP on my server. I like Thunderbird. -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Ditch webmail?
Grant ha scritto: I've been using squirrelmail on my server and I think I'd like to switch to a desktop app. I'm the only user. Is sylpheed-claws the only one bound to satisfy a Gentooer? Is anyone pro-webmail? I use Thunderbird. Go figure. :) m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?
On Dec 18, 2007 3:41 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:53:18 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: the 'best' sequence is e-i-u-b (u = remount ro also syncs.. and leaves the fs in a clean state). To get the keyboard back from X try K (to sack X) or R (to pry it out of X cold, dead fingers). If you can SSH into the machine, you can also do it with echo u /proc/sysrq-trigger echo b /proc/sysrq-trigger Do not use e or i this way as they will kill sshd. Or just type 'reboot' (or anything else you want to do) ? =_=' Boris. -- Neil Bothwick Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. -- $ ruby -e'puts .:@BFegiklnorst.unpack(x4ax7aaX6ax5aX15ax4aax6aaX7ax2 \ aX5aX8axaX3ax8aX4ax6aX3aX6ax3ax3aX9ax4ax2aX9axaX6ax3aX2ax4 \ ax3aX4aXaX12ax10aaX7a).join' -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Ditch webmail?
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:19:13 -0500 Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus no PHP on my server. How can you have a webserver without PHP? I cringe : ) I like Thunderbird. I don't. Thunderbird is, like most mozilla products, slow an bloated. Claws-Mail (as sylpheed is now called, BTW) is light and fast. I am not a mutt user, and find mouse drag-and drop and navigation a huge productivity boost. I would certainly recommend claws. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mounting Question...
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:11:19 +0100 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leave it out completely on systems with =1G RAM, but there may be cases where swap is needed even with this large amount of memory. I don't think this is wise, as context switching in low-memory scenarios seems to perform much better if there is just a little swap space to be used. Furthermore, that way programs don't die if the memory runs out. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Openoffice does not accept keyboard inp ut (such as üéè)
I have 2 systems with Gentoo and Openoffice. It is built with the USE-flags cups firefox kde pam and nothing else on both systems. On one system it is impossible to write certain letters, such as üéè. Nothing happens when first the ¨ key and then the u key is pressed. It works in all programs in KDE and also in Firefox and emacs. Only Openoffice fails. The users are complaining. On the other system it works fine in all programs, including Openoffice. I have no idea why it behaves like this. Thanks in advance for any help! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:50:33 + Benjamen R. Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I set up a server system a little while ago, and in performing updates to portage it ran out of disk space as I didn't quite allow enough space on the root partition (3.8 GB). As a result, I took a partition that I had cleaned up (this was from a rebuild of a system that was a different distro in the past) and moved over /usr/portage to it. It's a 47 GB partition (as reported by df -h) and the system works fine. 47 Gigs is quite a lot of space for the portage tree. The ebuilds take up a few hundred megabytes, and the distfiles generally fill up a few gigs by the time you get everything installed (i recommend you keep them around, if you plan to share portage with others). The amount of space you provide is overkill -- but more importantly, I worry that you may need to reclaim some of that 47GB to use for your root partition, as 3.8GB isn't a particularly large amount for this, especially if you have /var on that partition as well. I generally go 5 or 10 gigs for a root partition, the latter being more appropriate for a general purpose graphical workstation. My shared portage tree has been deployed for quite a while now and is about 5.4 gigs, with roughly 5G of that accounted for by distfiles. I am now thinking of converting my desktop over to Gentoo as well, and was wondering whether what I did above on the server was wise or not. I will be using the server as the portage provider for my desktop too. Otherwise, what is the recommended space to have available for the portage tree in /usr/portage so I can have root as an appropriately sized partition? I believe that sharing portage between computers is wise whenever the client is guaranteed to have access to the tree when new programs are required. In other words, it works great for desktops. The configuration might come back to haunt you if you are off your own network and need to install a new program on your laptop. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:31:58 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Multiple great ideas have already been suggested in this thread. Is this the first time they've been conceived and shared? Why hasn't work begun on them? Why isn't work completed on them? Because living costs money and Gentoo doesn't pay. I've been in business for 7 years and I'd like to take a shot at designing a system that would pay Gentoo developers to develop. Oh, I've taken this approach several times. My simple idea was to for an individual or company to solicit specific things they want, like a meta package for secure E-commerce. I'd 'Poney' up the funds and the greater community benefits. No takers. I'd throw a few thousand dollars at such a venture. I'm sure other would donate to. Anyone interested? (serious doubts among the dev ranks). Gentoo is a 'boys club' and any mention of using it formally to make money (for the greater gentoo community) sends the squirrels with their nuts running for cover. How about this. You create an account on the Program's website and choose which herd or project you want to support. Your selection can be changed as often as you like, and you can view a report corresponding herds and historical support. The Program's maintainers set up affiliate accounts with as many websites as possible. Amazon, Buy.com, etc. When you want to make a purchase from one of these sites, you first log into your account and use the provided affiliate link. The Program distributes the associated affiliate payouts as you have specified. Each affiliate payout and support payout would be trackable on the website to ensure integrity. Of course there are details to be worked out, but I can't think of anything that would block the project. I've made three purchases from Amazon in the last week or two. Those should have benefited the portage devs. This is very simple and, of course, applicable to a lot more than Gentoo, which makes me wonder if it has already been implemented somewhere. - Grant What do you think fellows? Good idea? Bad idea? Am I the only one who thinks monetary support would stimulate Gentoo development? - Grant I think this is a good idea, and it appears that Amazon.com already supports that kind of thing from what you're saying here.l I don't know if money would help the project, but I do know that personally I don't have much time to devote to my hobbies like Gentoo, but have a lot more time for work than pleasure. So, for some of the development community, money might really help free up some resources. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Python vs C++ [was: Gentoo Rules]
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:24:01 +0100 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which would add an awful lot of complexity and require major design changes in order to gain anything. The beauty of the ebuild format is its simplicity. I don't really think it's worth it. I agree. I have noticed that for general emerge operations, about 1GHz of processor power will be able to hit the I/O bandwith cap on my fastest drives. In other words, I don't think lots of the time spent withh portage -- on modern systems -- is on the processor. You'd have better results -- and an easier time -- if you optimized the FS for Portage, I would imagine. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules
Multiple great ideas have already been suggested in this thread. Is this the first time they've been conceived and shared? Why hasn't work begun on them? Why isn't work completed on them? Because living costs money and Gentoo doesn't pay. I've been in business for 7 years and I'd like to take a shot at designing a system that would pay Gentoo developers to develop. Oh, I've taken this approach several times. My simple idea was to for an individual or company to solicit specific things they want, like a meta package for secure E-commerce. I'd 'Poney' up the funds and the greater community benefits. No takers. I'd throw a few thousand dollars at such a venture. I'm sure other would donate to. Anyone interested? (serious doubts among the dev ranks). Gentoo is a 'boys club' and any mention of using it formally to make money (for the greater gentoo community) sends the squirrels with their nuts running for cover. How about this. You create an account on the Program's website and choose which herd or project you want to support. Your selection can be changed as often as you like, and you can view a report corresponding herds and historical support. The Program's maintainers set up affiliate accounts with as many websites as possible. Amazon, Buy.com, etc. When you want to make a purchase from one of these sites, you first log into your account and use the provided affiliate link. The Program distributes the associated affiliate payouts as you have specified. Each affiliate payout and support payout would be trackable on the website to ensure integrity. Of course there are details to be worked out, but I can't think of anything that would block the project. I've made three purchases from Amazon in the last week or two. Those should have benefited the portage devs. This is very simple and, of course, applicable to a lot more than Gentoo, which makes me wonder if it has already been implemented somewhere. - Grant What do you think fellows? Good idea? Bad idea? Am I the only one who thinks monetary support would stimulate Gentoo development? - Grant I think this is a good idea, and it appears that Amazon.com already supports that kind of thing from what you're saying here.l I don't know if money would help the project, but I do know that personally I don't have much time to devote to my hobbies like Gentoo, but have a lot more time for work than pleasure. So, for some of the development community, money might really help free up some resources. That's what I'm thinking Dan. I emailed Amazon about this yesterday and we'll see what they say. If it's OK, I'm going to set up an affiliate account, pick a beneficiary, and try to get people to buy via the link right away. That's the quick start. Does anyone have a web server they would lend me a page of? I have one but it hosts my business website and I don't want it to become the target of super-savvy folk. ftp, ssh, even copy-paste would be greatly appreciated. Just one page. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:40:48 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip Webb wrote: 071218 Sergey Kobzar wrote: - ReiserFS looks unsupported now What do you base that assessment on ? It's true that RFS 4 was going nowhere even before its creator's legal problems, but RFS 3 is still well-supported as a Gentoo pkg, isn't it ? When I installed Gentoo on my new desktop machine recently, I used RFS 3 for everything except /boot (which is Ext2). I too use ReiserFS for everything but /boot. I used to use it for that but the 32MB thing sort of got me to change it to ext3. I have had no problems with file system errors. I have three hard drives and 9 partitions, 8 are ReiserFS, and it works great. I may even give ReiserFS 4 a shot in the future. I'm not sure if it is even being developed any more tho. Anybody hear anything on that? Dale :-) :-) :-) I, too, use reiserfs for everything I can. EXT3, the last time I used it, is much slower, Sure, you can tweak it, but you can do that to Reiser too. I trust it now, and don't intend to switch to anything else any time soon. I have always found this FS review well presented and very useful: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Rules
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:09:09 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a web server they would lend me a page of? I have one but it hosts my business website and I don't want it to become the target of super-savvy folk. ftp, ssh, even copy-paste would be greatly appreciated. Just one page. Absolutely, if you don't mind it being on my home webserver. I am even getting a little bandwith upgrade at the end of the month. I will send you an email off-list. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: On Thursday 20 December 2007 10:50:33 Benjamen R. Meyer wrote: I set up a server system a little while ago, and in performing updates to portage it ran out of disk space as I didn't quite allow enough space on the root partition (3.8 GB). That's way too much. 256M is enough. / is the primary drive for the OS; I typically only off-load to other partitions for user stuff. On the server, I initially only offloaded /home and /usr/local; but in the crisis of the out of diskspace issue, I ended up also offloading /var/tmp and /usr/portage. As a result, I took a partition that I had cleaned up (this was from a rebuild of a system that was a different distro in the past) and moved over /usr/portage to it. It's a 47 GB partition (as reported by df -h) and the system works fine. I do realize that if the mount command got screwed up, I'd probably have issues recovering the system, but that is that system. I am now thinking of converting my desktop over to Gentoo as well, and was wondering whether what I did above on the server was wise or not. I think it is not. You'll undoubtedly get different answers about this, but IMHO it is best (regardless what kind of system) to use small, special purpose logical volumes. This way you can add space when needed, use the filesystem that fits best for the kind of data you store on this volume and have a certain degree of safety against volume corruption. Here is what I would recommend for a normal linux system: [hs]da1: /boot, 64M, ext2 [hs]da2: /, 256M, ext3 or xfs [hs]da3: LVM Then, create a volume group spawning [hs]da3 with name vg00 (you can choose the name freely) and create logical volumes inside: /dev/vg00/swap: size as needed, swapfs # can be omitted if enough RAM /dev/vg00/usr: /usr, 2-5G (dep. on number of pkgs), ext3 or xfs /dev/vg00/var: /var, 512M-1G, ext3 or xfs For /home, I prefer to have one LV per user, like /dev/vg00/john_doe, /dev/vg00/jane_doe and have the kernel automounter mount them on demand (at login time). I will be using the server as the portage provider for my desktop too. Otherwise, what is the recommended space to have available for the portage tree in /usr/portage so I can have root as an appropriately sized partition? Here again, I use the kernel automounter to mount three different LVs under /gentoo when needed: /dev/vg00/build (5.5G to be able to build OO.org), /dev/vg00/distfiles for the source packages and /dev/vg00/overlays for overlays, incl. the portage tree. On the desktop machine, you should be able to mount distfiles and overlays from the server via NFS. The build volume I would leave locally on the desktop to get faster build times (unless your network connection to your server is faster than harddisc access). I don't like using NFS much...guess I'll have to change that as I would like to centralize my server as a one-stop shop for usernames and passwords for the few systems on my network - server, desktop, and a laptop at present, but there will also be a few others shortly too. The laptop runs Windows 2k, so it'll just auth against Samba...any how...to get back to this issue... I haven't played with LVM yet. It's been something that's intrigued me, but I haven't ever researched it much to play with it. What you guys propose above and in this thread is quite interesting, so I'll follow up with this question: Right now I have the server configured per drives as follows: /dev/hda1 /3.8 GB 4096.19 MB /dev/hda2 /home 15.0 GB 15356.60 MB /dev/hda3 SWAP 2.6 GB 2665.00 MB /dev/hda4 /usr/local 4.9 GB 5255.96 MB /dev/hdb1 EMPTY 66.3 GB 67875.02 MB /dev/hdb2 /var/tmp28.0 GB 30721.43 MB /dev/hdb3 /usr/portage47.0 GB 51202.37 MB /dev/hdb4 SWAP10.0 GB 10240.48 MB It's only got a 192 MB of RAM - a PII/233, so I'm giving it generous swap space. (My desktop is an AMD64 with a gig of RAM.) I seem to have a sizable partition free (hdb1), so this just might work - but how would you guys propose I transition from the above setup to an LVM setup? All partitions are currently ext3 (my preferred fs for linux). I don't think I'd be able to do that on my desktop right now...namely in that rebuilding it from Slackware to Gentoo is going to be trying enough, but I think I can manage it - namely from the side of downtime, but I'd also like to try to fully utilize the AMD64 in the system - meaning 64-bit where possible. Any how...for now, I'd like to hear about the LVM conversion for the server; I'll bring up the other issues later in different threads when I have the time to address them, but the LVM stuff is intriguing enough that I might be able to squeeze it in in short order if I can do it without risking data, or having to rebuild the system. Thanks, Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Ditch webmail?
On Thursday 20 December 2007 19:44:12 b.n. wrote: Grant ha scritto: I've been using squirrelmail on my server and I think I'd like to switch to a desktop app. I'm the only user. Is sylpheed-claws the only one bound to satisfy a Gentooer? Is anyone pro-webmail? I use Thunderbird. Go figure. :) m. I use Kmail when at home, and squirrelmail for fresh mail on webserver at home from work. I'm only user. m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dale wrote:
Mick wrote:
This has been going on for some time, but nothing has yet gone bang! I
can't understand what the errors mean. They seem to occur every other
day. The machine is a laptop. Also I am not sure if these errors
occurred when I forced a reboot a few times when a WiFi USB driver
crashed and locked up my keyboard. Should I be worried?
==
# cat /var/log/messages | grep Prefailure
Dec 17 13:36:15 lappy smartd[6284]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 98
Dec 17 22:00:27 lappy smartd[6267]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 98 to 99
Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 100
Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 105 to 100
Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 120 to 100
Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 100 to 105
Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 100 to 116
==
I get those a lot too. I have a question, can you post the output of
hdparm -i /dev/hda . I have two Maxtor drives and both of mine gives a
very similar error. My Western Digital doesn't have any errors at all.
Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
Here ya' go:
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=IC25N020ATMR04-0, FwRev=MO1OAD5A, SerialNo=MRX107K1DS623H
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1740kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=17475/15/63, CurSects=16513875, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39070080
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a: ATA/ATAPI-2,3,4,5,6
* signifies the current active mode
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Ditch webmail?
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: Grant wrote: I used mutt for a long time but when I tried squirrelmail my productivity when up 5 fold. I'm thinking switching to a desktop app would be even better. Plus no PHP on my server. I like Thunderbird. I think that it is simply a matter of choice of access. If you want to access your messages from anywhere, then a webmail can be useful. On the other hand if you have access to a mail client (laptop, pda, smartphone) then webmail can be redundant. A webmail (unless run on the LAN) will always experience some latency compared to a mail client and over a dial up, well it'll feel glacial. I have been using Kmail, which has evolved to become a pretty stable application (well, compared to what it was like 4 years ago ;p ) and have also used Opera's mail client/news agent (because it's simple, lightweight and errm . . . it's just there). On the other hand, if you also use MS Windows, then Thunderbird brings familiarity because it exists on both OS'. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Mick wrote:
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dale wrote:
snip
I get those a lot too. I have a question, can you post the output of
hdparm -i /dev/hda . I have two Maxtor drives and both of mine gives a
very similar error. My Western Digital doesn't have any errors at all.
Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
Here ya' go:
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=IC25N020ATMR04-0, FwRev=MO1OAD5A, SerialNo=MRX107K1DS623H
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1740kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=17475/15/63, CurSects=16513875, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39070080
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a: ATA/ATAPI-2,3,4,5,6
* signifies the current active mode
So is it a Hitachi or IBM? I was curious since mine is a Maxtor and has
similar errors. I had a thread a while back. Here is some of the info
I was given to read.
http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/01/08/anatomy-of-a-drive-failure
Maybe something will make sense.
Dale
:-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:12:17 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Then, create a volume group spawning [hs]da3 with name vg00 (you can choose the name freely) and create logical volumes inside: I'd use a less generic name, otherwise you'll have problems if the computer fails and you try to connect the disk to another computer that has a vg00 volume group. I generally use a name related to the computer's hostname, which avoids conflicts. I can already see that this thread is going to run, and run, and ... :) These days most people do not have a separate /boot partition as has already been mentioned. Depending on the size of your disk and your need for a swap partition you may want to have it at the beginning of a partition, or for larger disks in the middle. At the beginning you get faster read/write and in the middle you get faster access (I'm splitting hairs here, but it's fun anyway). Certain partitions (if you decide to go for multi-partition scheme) like /var/tmp, /tmp, /usr will benefit being at the beginning of the disk. Others (e.g. /root, /mnt, /sbin less so). Unlike commonly perceived wisdom I don't think that LVM is a panacea for all ills, or a necessity as such. It is however bloody convenient, especially on a growing fs. A server that is not expected to change much in size, probably does not need it. On the other hand some servers (file, mail, news servers) are bound to continue to accumulate data and their fs will increase in time. I would argue that the former type of server can happily live in a few primary partitions + 1 extended with a number of logical partitions, if you are going for a multi-partitioned scheme, while the latter type of server will greatly benefit from LVM. Of course, if hard drive redundancy is necessary, then I can't see how you could live without LVM + RAID. With regards to your 47G /usr/portage partition I think that it is a waste of space. It won't harm you other than the fact that the 3.8G OS partition is in all likelihood too small. This is what I would do: tar the contents of /usr/portage elsewhere (even in the 3.8G partition - it should fit if you clear any cruft and, or use bzip). Delete the 47G partition and use gparted to enlarge the 3.8G partition to say, 8-10G. Then create a new partition say another 8-10G for /usr/portage. Then create anymore separate partitions you may need (for /home and what have you). mkfs as required, modify your /etc/fstab and move your data in your respective new partitions. If you think your fs is/are going to grow use LVM instead, otherwise primaries and if you need more than 4 then (extended + logical). Just my 2c's. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dan Farrell wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:40:48 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip Webb wrote: 071218 Sergey Kobzar wrote: - ReiserFS looks unsupported now What do you base that assessment on ? It's true that RFS 4 was going nowhere even before its creator's legal problems, but RFS 3 is still well-supported as a Gentoo pkg, isn't it ? When I installed Gentoo on my new desktop machine recently, I used RFS 3 for everything except /boot (which is Ext2). I too use ReiserFS for everything but /boot. I used to use it for that but the 32MB thing sort of got me to change it to ext3. I have had no problems with file system errors. I have three hard drives and 9 partitions, 8 are ReiserFS, and it works great. I may even give ReiserFS 4 a shot in the future. I'm not sure if it is even being developed any more tho. Anybody hear anything on that? Dale :-) :-) :-) I, too, use reiserfs for everything I can. EXT3, the last time I used it, is much slower, Sure, you can tweak it, but you can do that to Reiser too. I trust it now, and don't intend to switch to anything else any time soon. I have always found this FS review well presented and very useful: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 Hmm, this article suggests that XFS is the best thing since sliced bread . . . especially for files greater than 500MB. Not sure I've got many of these. Has anyone got a particularly good experience with XFS vs e.g. Reiserfs? What about JFS? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dale wrote:
Mick wrote:
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dale wrote:
snip
I get those a lot too. I have a question, can you post the output of
hdparm -i /dev/hda . I have two Maxtor drives and both of mine gives a
very similar error. My Western Digital doesn't have any errors at all.
Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
Here ya' go:
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=IC25N020ATMR04-0, FwRev=MO1OAD5A, SerialNo=MRX107K1DS623H
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1740kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=17475/15/63, CurSects=16513875, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39070080
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a:
ATA/ATAPI-2,3,4,5,6
* signifies the current active mode
So is it a Hitachi or IBM? I was curious since mine is a Maxtor and has
similar errors. I had a thread a while back. Here is some of the info
I was given to read.
lshw tells me it is a Hitachi:
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*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: IC25N020ATMR04-0
vendor: Hitachi
physical id: 0
bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
logical name: /dev/hda
version: MO1OAD5A
serial: MRX107K1DS623H
size: 18GB
capacity: 18GB
capabilities: ata dma lba iordy smart security pm apm
partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: apm=off mode=udma5 smart=on
===
http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/01/08/anatomy-of-a-drive-failure
Maybe something will make sense.
Thanks, I'll browse through these.
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Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell PowerEdge 2600 / 2800? AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver?
Stroller wrote: On 20 Dec 2007, at 07:26, kashani wrote: I used Redhat, Fedora, and Gentoo on 2550, 1650, 2650, 1750, 1850, and 2850 PowerEdge servers ... Blimey! You obviously know your stuff. So how do you find Gentoo measures up to Redhat / Fedora on these machines? Never had an issue with Gentoo on any of them. The SCSI and ether drivers were well supported. Other than the CPU/RAM the main different between 2650, 2850, and 2950 was the SCSI card. I'd choose the 2850 over the 2650 given a choice for anything with heavy I/O and the 2950 are noticeably faster than the 2850 for our db stuff. Ours is a 2800, and it's the 2600 that I find most readily / cheaply available. Looks like the xx50 models are the rack-mount lower-profile models of the same generation. Looks like they're more expensive secondhand and it's not obvious if hot-swap PSUs are available? I am not sure about the xx00 series, but you could hot swap PSUs in the xx50 machines. The machines at this site aren't under high-load, so that's not really a problem. We like this class of servers for the redundancy of the moving-and-failure-prone kind of parts (PSU disks). If I might ask some follow-up questions: Are the SCSI cards in these models the same brand / chipset / Linux driver, please? Or are they completely different? Hmmm the SCSI card was onboard and you could get RAID by adding the memory dimm/unlocker doohicky if your system didn't come with it. We hit Ebay and picked up a bunch for cheap. Within a series the SCSI card was always the same other than maybe minor revision. Perc3i ver 3, ver 2, and etc in the 2600 and then Perc4i ver 1, ver 2 in the 2800. You'd never have an issue with an early rev or later rev having issues in any 2.6 kernel I ran. kashani -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
Mick wrote: SNIP With regards to your 47G /usr/portage partition I think that it is a waste of space. It won't harm you other than the fact that the 3.8G OS partition is in all likelihood too small. This is what I would do: tar the contents of /usr/portage elsewhere (even in the 3.8G partition - it should fit if you clear any cruft and, or use bzip). Delete the 47G partition and use gparted to enlarge the 3.8G partition to say, 8-10G. Then create a new partition say another 8-10G for /usr/portage. Then create anymore separate partitions you may need (for /home and what have you). mkfs as required, modify your /etc/fstab and move your data in your respective new partitions. If you think your fs is/are going to grow use LVM instead, otherwise primaries and if you need more than 4 then (extended + logical). Just my 2c's. Well, I'm no expert but this has worked for me and this is a 4 or 5 year old install. Your mileage may vary. From cfdisk: hda1 Boot Primary Linux ext2 200.25 hda5Logical Linux 1999.88 hda6Logical Linux ReiserFS1.76 hda7Logical Linux ReiserFS 4999.94 hda8Logical Linux ReiserFS 4999.94 hda9Logical Linux ReiserFS49764.56 This is from df: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 19530340 4842172 1468816825% / /dev/hda1 189339 19382 160181 11% /boot /dev/hda7 4882532 2832424 2050108 59% /usr/portage /dev/hda8 4882532 1597144 3285388 33% /home /dev/hdb1 78145768 13720248 6442552018% /data [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # As you can see, I have plenty of space available for future additions, like a space hogging KDE 4.0. :-) The fullest one is /usr/portage which I clean up on occasion with eclean. If I ever change them around again, I will put /var on a separate partition but other than that, it works pretty well. May make root smaller then as well. A lot of this depends on what you are doing with the box tho. It's just something you have to sort of work out as you go which may be why some recommend EVMS or LVM. I have read up on it but just never got up the nerve to try it yet. This is a desktop mostly used to surf the net and run foldingathome on. Hope this helps tho. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop
Mick wrote: On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dan Farrell wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:40:48 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip Webb wrote: 071218 Sergey Kobzar wrote: - ReiserFS looks unsupported now What do you base that assessment on ? It's true that RFS 4 was going nowhere even before its creator's legal problems, but RFS 3 is still well-supported as a Gentoo pkg, isn't it ? When I installed Gentoo on my new desktop machine recently, I used RFS 3 for everything except /boot (which is Ext2). I too use ReiserFS for everything but /boot. I used to use it for that but the 32MB thing sort of got me to change it to ext3. I have had no problems with file system errors. I have three hard drives and 9 partitions, 8 are ReiserFS, and it works great. I may even give ReiserFS 4 a shot in the future. I'm not sure if it is even being developed any more tho. Anybody hear anything on that? Dale :-) :-) :-) I, too, use reiserfs for everything I can. EXT3, the last time I used it, is much slower, Sure, you can tweak it, but you can do that to Reiser too. I trust it now, and don't intend to switch to anything else any time soon. I have always found this FS review well presented and very useful: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 Hmm, this article suggests that XFS is the best thing since sliced bread . . . especially for files greater than 500MB. Not sure I've got many of these. Has anyone got a particularly good experience with XFS vs e.g. Reiserfs? What about JFS? My only experience with XFS was a nightmare. It's good if you have a UPS that will take care of power outages but it does not like a sudden power failure. Reiserfs doesn't seem to mind the failure of a local power company. The rig that did have XFS on it got a reinstall with reiserfs. It was running Mandrake and had no UPS with several power failures after which it would no longer boot up. I'm not saying not to use XFS, just pointing out a weakness that I found. Dale :-) :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop
On 20 Dec 2007, at 21:34, Mick wrote: ... Hmm, this article suggests that XFS is the best thing since sliced bread . . . especially for files greater than 500MB. Not sure I've got many of these. A TV episode might well be 700meg. Has anyone got a particularly good experience with XFS vs e.g. Reiserfs? What about JFS? XFS - runs great on Irix! Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Mick wrote: SNIP Thanks, I'll browse through these. It makes me wonder if the drives are sensitive to something. This seems to be common with Maxtor. Is Hitachi made by the same company as Maxtor I wonder? I have been getting these errors for some time now. They pass the tests tho. You can run that with this: smartctl -t long /dev/hdX The X should be replaced with the correct drive or you may have to use sdX if you have SATA drives. After it gets done, which may take a while, you can get the results like this: smartctl -l selftest /dev/hdX. Replace the X again. Hope you get a good report. Mine passed. Dale :-) :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup
On Thursday 20 December 2007 03:40:07 am Mick wrote: Hi Jeff, On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote: I have checked, and ndiswrapper and the rtl8187 package were uninstalled. I think that the problem I have may be more basic. The card I have is an 8197, not an 8187. I wonder if this is part of the problem. Could it be that the kernel driver does not support the 8197? The attached weblink suggests that this may be the case: http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/2007/09/26/no-more-vista/ Does anyone know how I can locate the equivalent code in the kernel and perhaps perform a similar modification? (can you please stop top-posting, it makes reading of threads difficult in this mailing list). Your device may still be supported by the driver. The problem may exist with the wpa_supplicant. You could try commenting out the wpa_supplicant in your /etc/conf.d/net file and using net-wireless/wireless-tools instead. Then try again to see if it a)finds the access point (try iwlist wlan0 scanning), b)associates with it (try iwlist wlan0 accesspoint) . Of course you will need to remove WPA from the AP. Should all this succeed you can work your way up from there. PS. I haven't managed to make wpa_supplicant work with my device rt2570usb for more than a year now, but haven't tried recently. I tried removing any reference to wpa_supplicant. The alternative /etc/conf.d/net configuration that I tried is: essid_wlan0=mynetworkname channel_wlan0=( 2 ) # the channel my wireless card is presently set to key_home=( my_hex_WEP_key enc open ) config_wlan0=( dhcp ) dhcpcd_wlan0=-I '' iwlist wlan0 scanning returns wlan0 Interface does not support scanning : Network is down iwlist wlan0 accesspoint returns wlan0 Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points At the moment, I think the key line in dmesg is . phy0: RF calibration failed! 0 If I could figure out what this line meant, and what I could do to fix it, I might be on my way to a potential solution. Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup
On Thursday 20 December 2007 02:00:36 am Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
Hi,
I cannot really go into details, but maybe I'm competent enough to make
some notes on this:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:47:55 -0500
Jeff Cranmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I manually edited the file
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8187_dev.c [...]
I added the line
{USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8197)},
in the /* Realtek */ area of the structure, then ran
make clean, then
make make modules_install etc.
After rebooting into the modified kernel, I now have iwmaster0 and iwlan0
lines showing up when I type iwconfig.
Although that's a good sign, it does not guarantee that the driver
fully supports your device. However, the kernel log should now have
changed significantly and the driver might now tell you there if it's
fully operable. ifconfig showing the correct MAC is also a good sign.
As a side note: My suggestion would be to play with the different
drivers of wpa_supplicant. DHCP won't work if there's no correct WPA
setup anyway.
-hwh
ifconfig only shows the eth0 and lo interfaces, whereas iwconfig shows info on
the wireless interface, but not the MAC address
The MAC address does appear in the dmesg logs, with the line
phy0: hwaddr actual address not put in e-mail, rtl8187 V0 + rtl8225
This is followed by
phy0: RF calibration failed! 0
which I think is the key symptom that I need to address in order to move
forwards.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Ditch webmail?
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:32:52 -0600, Dan Farrell wrote: I don't. Thunderbird is, like most mozilla products, slow an bloated. Claws-Mail (as sylpheed is now called, BTW) is light and fast Just to clarify the situation, Sylpheed is still Sylpheed. Sylpheed-Claws became Claws-Mail since it no longer follows the Sylpheed code. -- Neil Bothwick If Microsoft made cars: The airbag system would ask are you sure? before deploying. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:26:55 -0500, Boris Fersing wrote: If you can SSH into the machine, you can also do it with echo u /proc/sysrq-trigger echo b /proc/sysrq-trigger Do not use e or i this way as they will kill sshd. Or just type 'reboot' (or anything else you want to do) ? =_=' I've had systems too messed up to run reboot or shutdown. -- Neil Bothwick In possession of a mind not merely twisted, but actually sprained. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:34:53 +, Mick wrote: Hmm, this article suggests that XFS is the best thing since sliced bread . . . especially for files greater than 500MB. Not sure I've got many of these. I found that too, so I use XFS for partitions that handle large files (ISO images, video editing, MythTV etc.) -- Neil Bothwick I need your clothes, your boots, and your tagline! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 08:46 -0600, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: Portage can continue to build packages if one fails. # emerge -options package/list_of_packages || until emerge -same_options_as_before package/list_of_packages ; do : ;done yes but wouldn't this continue regardless of what deps are met? Ideally if a lib fails, you only want to continue with packages that don't require that lib. Otherwise you have to fix it, and rebuild other packages anyway... -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Comedy, like Medicine, was never meant to be practiced by the general public. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
Dale wrote: Mick wrote: SNIP With regards to your 47G /usr/portage partition I think that it is a waste of space. It won't harm you other than the fact that the 3.8G OS partition is in all likelihood too small. This is what I would do: tar the contents of /usr/portage elsewhere (even in the 3.8G partition - it should fit if you clear any cruft and, or use bzip). Delete the 47G partition and use gparted to enlarge the 3.8G partition to say, 8-10G. Then create a new partition say another 8-10G for /usr/portage. Then create anymore separate partitions you may need (for /home and what have you). mkfs as required, modify your /etc/fstab and move your data in your respective new partitions. If you think your fs is/are going to grow use LVM instead, otherwise primaries and if you need more than 4 then (extended + logical). Well, I'm no expert but this has worked for me and this is a 4 or 5 year old install. Your mileage may vary. From cfdisk: snip As you can see, I have plenty of space available for future additions, like a space hogging KDE 4.0. :-) The fullest one is /usr/portage which I clean up on occasion with eclean. If I ever change them around again, I will put /var on a separate partition but other than that, it works pretty well. May make root smaller then as well. A lot of this depends on what you are doing with the box tho. It's just something you have to sort of work out as you go which may be why some recommend EVMS or LVM. I have read up on it but just never got up the nerve to try it yet. This is a desktop mostly used to surf the net and run foldingathome on. Hope this helps tho. Thanks for the info guys. Yeah - the server has been pretty steady. I use to run it on a P90 with an 8.4 GB (7.6 formatted) hard drive running Slackware and just upgraded to the P2 with Gentoo, namely so I can keep it up to date more. I run Gentoo at work, but the firewall prevents me from getting portage updates there as they block RSYNC and FTP, and the HTTP is authenticated which causes me a lot of pain under *nix. So in some respects I am pretty new to some of this stuff per Gentoo. LVM is certainly not out of the question, I just don't have the time to rebuild the system again - especially since I just built it. So I'd need a path to getting to it. As per the the suggestion of blasting away the 47 GB partition - I'm not sure that's an option. I got away from using Logical partitions a long time ago after I moved to Linux as I found them to be too problematic - I'd never have enough space on the partition I needed space on and to rework it to have enough would require moving around others too. And, as you can see from my other e-mail, I already have 4 primary partitions on each drive (swap included); so I would certainly go to LVM instead of logical partitions. That said, the system itself won't change much, but the current drive layout is probably not the best for where space needs to really be. So I really am open to changing it, but need to do so on the fly with a few reboots and (most importantly) without reinstalling. I do realize Linux makes it pretty easy to move around from partition to partition, which I have done, just not sure how LVM plays into it - thus my other e-mail asking about a path to getting there. (FYI - I did check and LVM2's device-mapper is enabled in the kernel, so it should be pretty straight forward.) Thanks, Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: FS for laptop
On 2007-12-20, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20 Dec 2007, at 21:34, Mick wrote: ... Hmm, this article suggests that XFS is the best thing since sliced bread . . . especially for files greater than 500MB. Not sure I've got many of these. A TV episode might well be 700meg. An HD TV episode might well be 7000meg. MythTv users seem to swear by XFS. Ext3 is certainly not up the the task: deleting a large (500MB+) file will bring my MythTv box running ext3 to a near-halt for 30-60 seconds. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Is this BOOZE? at visi.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FS for laptop
On Freitag, 21. Dezember 2007, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2007-12-20, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20 Dec 2007, at 21:34, Mick wrote: ... Hmm, this article suggests that XFS is the best thing since sliced bread . . . especially for files greater than 500MB. Not sure I've got many of these. A TV episode might well be 700meg. An HD TV episode might well be 7000meg. MythTv users seem to swear by XFS. swear by or just swear - when XFS again ate all the episodes ... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Ditch webmail?
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:19:47 + Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify the situation, Sylpheed is still Sylpheed. Sylpheed-Claws became Claws-Mail since it no longer follows the Sylpheed code. right; sorry. i started using it right when that was happening. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop
Mick wrote: Hmm, this article suggests that XFS is the best thing since sliced bread . . . especially for files greater than 500MB. Not sure I've got many of these. Has anyone got a particularly good experience with XFS vs e.g. Reiserfs? What about JFS? I have used xfs on 2 Gentoo servers for the last year of so - several power outages, no problems: $ df -m Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/md/2 52994 435 18% / /dev/md/0 12916 114 13% /boot /dev/md/3 3911 2060 1852 53% /tmp /dev/md/4 3911 473 3439 13% /var /dev/md/519537 5710 13828 30% /usr /dev/md/619537 5852 13686 30% /home /dev/md/7 104841 41208 63634 40% /data0 Previous to that I used xfs on Mandake... before 'seeing the light' and moving to Gentoo... :-) . Conversly my experience with reiserfs has been consistent data corruption... so I avoid using it (mind you it's probably fine *now*, this was a few years ago). Cheers Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop
I wrote: I have used xfs on 2 Gentoo servers for the last year of so - several power outages, no problems: $ df -m Doh! meant to type 'mount' not 'df': $ mount /dev/md/2 on / type xfs (rw,noatime) /dev/md/0 on /boot type xfs (rw,noatime) /dev/md/3 on /tmp type xfs (rw,noatime) /dev/md/4 on /var type xfs (rw,noatime) /dev/md/5 on /usr type xfs (rw,noatime) /dev/md/6 on /home type xfs (rw,noatime) /dev/md/7 on /data0 type xfs (rw,noatime) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: FS for laptop
On 2007-12-21, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Freitag, 21. Dezember 2007, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2007-12-20, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20 Dec 2007, at 21:34, Mick wrote: ... Hmm, this article suggests that XFS is the best thing since sliced bread . . . especially for files greater than 500MB. Not sure I've got many of these. A TV episode might well be 700meg. An HD TV episode might well be 7000meg. MythTv users seem to swear by XFS. swear by or just swear - when XFS again ate all the episodes ... I recently asked about filesystems on a MythTv mailing list. I saw nothing but praise for XFS. Maybe they're all just lucky. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! HOW could a GLASS at be YELLING?? visi.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge multiple-versions-in-same-slot weirdness with X11 libs...
Dale wrote: Walter Dnes wrote: I just did an emerge --sync followed by an ask fetchonly, which I do to avoid unpleasant surprises. Emerge is sending the following message to stderr. I don't like the concept of masking out stuff for an ordinary emerge. Any idea what gives? SNIP Ditto. u, +1 or whatever. Basically, same thing here. You are not alone. Dale :-) :-) OK. No response here so after tonights sync, I had only one blocker. I added it to package.keywords and it was off to the races. So Walter, you may want to sync again and see if it is any better. I guess we just caught something out of sync. LOL Dale :-) :-)
