Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dev-ruby/json-1.8.0
This is what I have. stephen #grep RUBY /etc/portage/make.conf RUBY_TARGETS=ruby20 stephen # ls -l /usr/bin/rdoc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jun 6 20:13 /usr/bin/rdoc - rdoc20 stephen # eselect ruby list Available Ruby profiles: [1] ruby19 (with Rubygems) [2] ruby20 (with Rubygems) * Regards On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:20 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/07/2014 12:56 AM, Hans de Graaff wrote: On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 15:47:38 -0700, walt wrote: Is all of the above familiar to you? If not, you may need more help with managing multiple ruby versions. I find it a large PITA and I could use more help myself :) Could you explain what bothers you or where you would need help? Hi Hans. The annoying problems occur when updating ruby-related packages. For example, I (want to) use only ruby19: #grep RUBY /etc/portage/make.conf RUBY_TARGETS=ruby19 In spite of that, portage often insists on installing other versions of ruby, rdoc, rubygems, and you already know the others. AFAICT, the other versions of ruby are dragged in by old ruby packages that were installed before I started using RUBY_TARGETS (because I didn't yet know about RUBY_TARGETS), I discovered all of this by grepping for ruby in /var/db/pkg but it took me a long time to get it sorted out, and I don't expect that a gentoo beginner could do it. (OTOH maybe a gentoo beginner wouldn't care about installing multiple ruby versions :) Thanks for taking the time to read gentoo.user and even more thanks for being a gentoo dev :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dev-ruby/json-1.8.0
Okay I am now using ruby19, This have solved my problem. Thanks stephen # eselect ruby list Available Ruby profiles: [1] ruby19 (with Rubygems) * [2] ruby20 (with Rubygems) stephen # ls -l /usr/bin/rdoclrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jun 8 11:45 /usr/bin/rdoc - rdoc19 stephen # grep RUBY /etc/portage/make.conf RUBY_TARGETS=ruby19 On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:20:22 -0700, walt wrote: On 06/07/2014 12:56 AM, Hans de Graaff wrote: For example, I (want to) use only ruby19: #grep RUBY /etc/portage/make.conf RUBY_TARGETS=ruby19 Yes, in hindsight I think that should have been the current default since ruby19 has the best overall coverage for packages. Once ruby20 has caught up I think we'll move to a default of RUBY_TARGETS=ruby20 In spite of that, portage often insists on installing other versions of ruby, rdoc, rubygems, and you already know the others. Partially this was because we tried to solve another issue when ruby20 went stable. I removed those forced use flags for ruby20 last week, so this should no longer happen. We still need to come up with a good plan when the same issue will pop up for ruby21. AFAICT, the other versions of ruby are dragged in by old ruby packages that were installed before I started using RUBY_TARGETS (because I didn't yet know about RUBY_TARGETS), Yes, these will still have other ruby targets recorded and thus also request them for their dependencies. emerge --newuse should be able to help here. I discovered all of this by grepping for ruby in /var/db/pkg but it took me a long time to get it sorted out, and I don't expect that a gentoo beginner could do it. (OTOH maybe a gentoo beginner wouldn't care about installing multiple ruby versions :) We try to keep the default settings so that someone who doesn't care or know about ruby should get a good experience. Moving from ruby18 to ruby19 we did some things that could have been handled better (such as not mentioning that the new ruby must be eselected before making the switch), so hopefully we've learned from those when we do the next update. Hans
[gentoo-user] dev-ruby/json-1.8.0
Hi all
I am trying to emerge dev-ruby/json-1.8.0 and it keeps failing.
I have tried everything I know to fix it, without any success.
Regards
* Package:dev-ruby/json-1.8.0
* Repository: gentoo
* Maintainer: r...@gentoo.org
* USE:amd64 doc elibc_glibc kernel_linux ruby_targets_ruby19
ruby_targets_ruby20 userland_GNU
* FEATURES: preserve-libs sandbox userpriv usersandbox
Unpacking source...
* Running unpack phase for all ...
* Unpacking .gem file...
...
[ ok ]
* Uncompressing metadata
...
[ ok ]
* Unpacking data.tar.gz
...
[ ok ]
Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/dev-ruby/json-1.8.0/work
Preparing source in /var/tmp/portage/dev-ruby/json-1.8.0/work ...
* Running prepare phase for all ...
* Running source copy phase for ruby19 ...
* Running source copy phase for ruby20 ...
Source prepared.
Configuring source in /var/tmp/portage/dev-ruby/json-1.8.0/work ...
Source configured.
Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/dev-ruby/json-1.8.0/work ...
* Running compile phase for ruby19 ...
GNU Make 3.82
Built for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
Ragel State Machine Compiler version 6.7 May 2011
Copyright (c) 2001-2009 by Adrian Thurston
Ragel State Machine Compiler version 6.7 May 2011
Copyright (c) 2001-2009 by Adrian Thurston
cd ext/json/ext/parser
/usr/bin/ruby19 extconf.rb
creating Makefile
gmake
compiling parser.c
linking shared-object json/ext/parser.so
cd -
cp ext/json/ext/parser/parser.so ext/json/ext
cd ext/json/ext/generator
/usr/bin/ruby19 extconf.rb
creating Makefile
gmake
compiling generator.c
linking shared-object json/ext/generator.so
cd -
cp ext/json/ext/generator/generator.so ext/json/ext
* Running compile phase for ruby20 ...
GNU Make 3.82
Built for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
Ragel State Machine Compiler version 6.7 May 2011
Copyright (c) 2001-2009 by Adrian Thurston
Ragel State Machine Compiler version 6.7 May 2011
Copyright (c) 2001-2009 by Adrian Thurston
cd ext/json/ext/parser
/usr/bin/ruby20 extconf.rb
creating Makefile
gmake
compiling parser.c
linking shared-object json/ext/parser.so
cd -
cp ext/json/ext/parser/parser.so ext/json/ext
cd ext/json/ext/generator
/usr/bin/ruby20 extconf.rb
creating Makefile
gmake
compiling generator.c
linking shared-object json/ext/generator.so
cd -
cp ext/json/ext/generator/generator.so ext/json/ext
* Running compile phase for all ...
GNU Make 3.82
Built for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
Ragel State Machine Compiler version 6.7 May 2011
Copyright (c) 2001-2009 by Adrian Thurston
Ragel State Machine Compiler version 6.7 May 2011
Copyright (c) 2001-2009 by Adrian Thurston
Writing version information for 1.8.0
rdoc -o doc -t 'JSON Implementation for Ruby' -m README.rdoc README.rdoc
lib/json.rb lib/json/add/bigdecimal.rb lib/json/add/complex.rb
lib/json/add/core.rb lib/json/add/date.rb lib/json/add/date_time.rb
lib/json/add/exception.rb lib/json/add/ostruct.rb lib/json/add/range.rb
lib/json/add/rational.rb lib/json/add/regexp.rb lib/json/add/struct.rb
lib/json/add/symbol.rb lib/json/add/time.rb lib/json/common.rb
lib/json/ext.rb lib/json/generic_object.rb lib/json/pure.rb
lib/json/pure/generator.rb lib/json/pure/parser.rb lib/json/version.rb
ext/json/ext/parser/parser.c ext/json/ext/generator/generator.c
sh: rdoc: command not found
rake aborted!
Command failed with status (127): [rdoc -o doc -t 'JSON Implementation for
Ru...]
/var/tmp/portage/dev-ruby/json-1.8.0/work/all/json-1.8.0/Rakefile:346:in
`block in top (required)'
Tasks: TOP = doc
(See full trace by running task with --trace)
* ERROR: dev-ruby/json-1.8.0::gentoo failed (compile phase):
* failed to (re)build documentation
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 93: Called src_compile
* environment, line 4281: Called ruby-ng_src_compile
* environment, line 3939: Called _ruby_invoke_environment 'all'
'all_ruby_compile'
* environment, line 501: Called all_ruby_compile
* environment, line 585: Called all_fakegem_compile
* environment, line 545: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* rake ${RUBY_FAKEGEM_TASK_DOC} || die failed to
(re)build documentation
*
* If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info
[gentoo-user] Net work cards
Hi all I am doing a new Gentoo installation and I cannot get my network cards to work. I have two cards 1) eth0 = Realtek RLTl8111e 2) wlan0 = RaLink RT2561/RT61 Gen Kernel has support for both. Please advise me as to what steps I can take to fix this?
Re: [gentoo-user] Net work cards
Thanks for the quick response, I will check and get back to you. I am not in front of my pc right now. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 03.02.2014 13:36, schrieb Stephen Reynolds: Hi all I am doing a new Gentoo installation and I cannot get my network cards to work. I have two cards 1) eth0 = Realtek RLTl8111e 2) wlan0 = RaLink RT2561/RT61 Gen Kernel has support for both. Please advise me as to what steps I can take to fix this? Are the kernel modules for your network desvices loaded? What's the output of ifconfig -a?
Re: [gentoo-user] Net work cards
if I run ifconfig -a this currently what I get. I have completed the installtion, but Kernel Modules I am not sure about. eth0: flags=4163UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.105 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::be5f:f4ff:fee8:5914 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20link ether bc:5f:f4:e8:59:14 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) RX packets 435 bytes 234999 (229.4 KiB) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 476 bytes 90064 (87.9 KiB) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 lo: flags=73UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING mtu 16436 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x10host loop txqueuelen 0 (Local Loopback) RX packets 4 bytes 300 (300.0 B) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 4 bytes 300 (300.0 B) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 wlan0: flags=4099UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:0e:2e:e4:fb:cd txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) RX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 On 2/3/14, Amankwah amankw...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 02:36:29PM +0200, Stephen Reynolds wrote: Hi all I am doing a new Gentoo installation and I cannot get my network cards to work. I have two cards 1) eth0 = Realtek RLTl8111e 2) wlan0 = RaLink RT2561/RT61 Gen Kernel has support for both. Please advise me as to what steps I can take to fix this? You should comfirm that the drivers of the adapters are compiled and loaded correctly. And for the wireless network, relys on you AP settings you may need the application like the net_wireless/wpa_supplicant.
Re: [gentoo-user] Net work cards
dmesg | grep -i firmware I get nothing. dmesg | grep eth0 i get this below. [ 50.931566] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: RTL8168evl/8111evl at 0xc9000467e000, bc:5f:f4:e8:59:14, XID 0c900800 IRQ 42 [ 50.931568] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: jumbo features [frames: 9200 bytes, tx checksumming: ko] [ 102.775702] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: link down [ 102.775719] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: link down [ 104.330871] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: link up [ 144.845438] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: link down [ 144.845448] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: link down [ 144.845470] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [ 145.104677] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: link down [ 145.104706] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [ 146.650141] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: link up [ 146.650150] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready On 2/3/14, Chris Stout chris.st...@gmx.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Reynolds Sent: 02/03/14 11:15 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Net work cards if I run ifconfig -a this currently what I get. I have completed the installtion, but Kernel Modules I am not sure about. You can get the info on what modules are loaded for the cards with `lspci -k`. For instance, the lines for my network card are:01:01.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2760 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R Subsystem: Edimax Computer Co. Device 7727 Kernel driver in use: rt2800pci It may also be relevant to post the output of `dmesg | grep -i firmware`.
Re: [gentoo-user] Net work cards
Okay thanks, I got network working it was just a cable issue. thanks for all the help On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Amankwah amankw...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 07:15:34PM +, Stephen Reynolds wrote: if I run ifconfig -a this currently what I get. I have completed the installtion, but Kernel Modules I am not sure about. eth0: flags=4163UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.105 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::be5f:f4ff:fee8:5914 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20link ether bc:5f:f4:e8:59:14 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) RX packets 435 bytes 234999 (229.4 KiB) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 476 bytes 90064 (87.9 KiB) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 lo: flags=73UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING mtu 16436 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x10host loop txqueuelen 0 (Local Loopback) RX packets 4 bytes 300 (300.0 B) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 4 bytes 300 (300.0 B) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 wlan0: flags=4099UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:0e:2e:e4:fb:cd txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) RX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 According to your result of the ifconfig -a, your device dirver should be OK. First, the eth0 interface, that is your wired connection, has already been configured. If it's done automaticly, it should be worked. If it doesn't work, you should check your network setting and if the cable is connected in right way. Second, the wlan0, the wirelesss adpater, maybe you need a wireless network management application. you can just check the basic configurations by the command iwconfig and iwlist first, if it's OK, and your wireless has encryption, you should configrue the wpa_supplicant correctly or using the NetworkManager to manage your wirless connection. On 2/3/14, Amankwah amankw...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 02:36:29PM +0200, Stephen Reynolds wrote: Hi all I am doing a new Gentoo installation and I cannot get my network cards to work. I have two cards 1)爀th0 =牋Realtek RLTl8111e 2)爓lan0 = RaLink RT2561/RT61 Gen Kernel has support for both. Please advise爉e as to what steps I can take to fix this? You should comfirm that the drivers of the adapters are compiled and loaded correctly. And for the wireless network, relys on you AP settings you may need the application like the net_wireless/wpa_supplicant.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome-Keyring not unlocking with Slim Autologin
Just to follow up on this. Seeing that I'm happy enough for my machine to autologin on bootup, I'm happy enough for the gnome-keyring to be automatically unlocked. Is there a way of doing this? Regards, Steve On 18 December 2012 10:41, Stephen Griffiths st...@stevegriff.com wrote: Thanks for you reply Mark. The way you put it makes sense. I guess the option is whether I would like to have the security risk of having my passwords open without needing any kind of authentication. But that depends on whether I can bypass needing to enter a password on autologin in the first please, or if it's not possible. On 18 December 2012 10:17, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Stephen Griffiths st...@stevegriff.com wrote: Is there some kind of rule where if you AutoLogin, you require some kind of authentication when it comes to unlocking the keyring? That's how the keyring works, in principle. The keyring is a password-protected secret, and a typical desktop system would be setup so that the login password you used was also used to unlock the keyring. With autologin, no password is typed in, so gnome-keyring has no way of being unlocked without asking you for a password. -- This email is:[ ] actionable [x] fyi[ ] social Response needed: [ ] yes [x] up to you [ ] no Time-sensitive: [ ] immediate[ ] soon [x] none -- Kind Regards, Stephen Griffiths http://www.stevegriff.com/ [image: Email st...@stevegriff.com]st...@stevegriff.com [image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/#!/stevegriffdtcom [image: Facebook]http://www.facebook.com/SteveGriffDotCom [image: Google+] https://plus.google.com/108932032303032698029/posts [image: LinkedIn] http://uk.linkedin.com/in/stevegriffdotcom -- Kind Regards, Stephen Griffiths http://www.stevegriff.com/[image: Email st...@stevegriff.com]st...@stevegriff.com[image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/#!/stevegriffdtcom[image: Facebook]http://www.facebook.com/SteveGriffDotCom[image: Google+] https://plus.google.com/108932032303032698029/posts[image: LinkedIn] http://uk.linkedin.com/in/stevegriffdotcom
[gentoo-user] Gnome-Keyring not unlocking with Slim Autologin
Hi all, I'm having an issue with the Slim Login Manager and it's AutoLogin feature. With the AutoLogin flag set to no, when I login, gnome-keyring unlocks itself fine, with Evolution being able to utilise it. However, when the AutoLogin flag is set to yes, Evolution invokes gnome-keyring to ask for the Password. Is there some kind of rule where if you AutoLogin, you require some kind of authentication when it comes to unlocking the keyring? -- Kind Regards, Stephen Griffiths
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome-Keyring not unlocking with Slim Autologin
Thanks for you reply Mark. The way you put it makes sense. I guess the option is whether I would like to have the security risk of having my passwords open without needing any kind of authentication. But that depends on whether I can bypass needing to enter a password on autologin in the first please, or if it's not possible. On 18 December 2012 10:17, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Stephen Griffiths st...@stevegriff.com wrote: Is there some kind of rule where if you AutoLogin, you require some kind of authentication when it comes to unlocking the keyring? That's how the keyring works, in principle. The keyring is a password-protected secret, and a typical desktop system would be setup so that the login password you used was also used to unlock the keyring. With autologin, no password is typed in, so gnome-keyring has no way of being unlocked without asking you for a password. -- This email is:[ ] actionable [x] fyi[ ] social Response needed: [ ] yes [x] up to you [ ] no Time-sensitive: [ ] immediate[ ] soon [x] none -- Kind Regards, Stephen Griffiths http://www.stevegriff.com/[image: Email st...@stevegriff.com]st...@stevegriff.com[image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/#!/stevegriffdtcom[image: Facebook]http://www.facebook.com/SteveGriffDotCom[image: Google+] https://plus.google.com/108932032303032698029/posts[image: LinkedIn] http://uk.linkedin.com/in/stevegriffdotcom
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server requires a serial number, but is free? how does this work
Goto: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ Right under Download VMware Server (in orange) you will see a link that reads register for your free serial number(s). On Dec 21, 2007 3:33 PM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've emerged and partly configured vmware-server-1.0.4, but it is asking for a 20-digit serial number to complete the configuration. I understood this to be a free product, as it says on the VMware site. But I didn't notice anything about a serial number. Do I just make it up, or did I miss something on vmware.com? ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange mplayer symbols on a terminal
On Wednesday 19 September 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Strange mplayer symbols on a terminal': On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 08:05:16PM +0100, Mick wrote: When I launch mplayer from aterm I get this type of symbols on my terminal: I get them too, and have always chalked it up to some locale problem not worth solving. I just ran it with stdout redirected to a temp file which I attach here. The attached file looks fine to me: MPlayer SVN-r24130 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 9) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Компилиран за x86 процесори с разширения: MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2 Възпроизвеждане на u-flatworld/fLnCDTWB2S0.flv. libavformat формат. [lavf] Video stream found, -vid 0 [lavf] Audio stream found, -aid 1 VIDEO: [FLV1] 320x240 0bpp 15.000 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s) [gl] using extended formats. Use -vo gl:nomanyfmts if playback fails. == Отваряне на видео декодер: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family Selected video codec: [ffflv] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Flash video) == == Отваряне на аудио декодер: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3 AUDIO: 22050 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 8.0 kbit/1.13% (ratio: 1000-88200) Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3) == AO: [oss] 22050Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Започва възпроизвеждането... VDec: заявка на vo config - 320 x 240 (preferred csp: Planar YV12) Не е открит подходящ цветови формат - повторен опит с -vf scale... Отваряне на видео филтър: [scale] VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0) Не са дефинирани пропорции - без предварително мащабиране. [swscaler @ 0x87d2698]SwScaler: using unscaled yuv420p - rgb32 special converter VO: [ggi] 320x240 = 320x240 BGRA [ggi] input: 320x240x32, output: 1408x1050x32 Излизане от програмата... (Изход) It is in a foreign language, though. Something with a Cyrillic script that I do not read. I'm not sure how mplayer has decided you want that language. Could you post the output of: env | grep -E '^L(C_|ANG)' so I can see the environment variables that affect gettext and POSIX message catalogs? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange mplayer symbols on a terminal
On Wednesday 19 September 2007, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Strange mplayer symbols on a terminal': On Wednesday 19 September 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Strange mplayer symbols on a terminal': On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 08:05:16PM +0100, Mick wrote: When I launch mplayer from aterm I get this type of symbols on my terminal: I get them too. I just ran it with stdout redirected to a temp file which I attach here. The attached file looks fine to me. It is in a foreign language, though. I'm not sure how mplayer has decided you want that language. Could you post the output of: env | grep -E '^L(C_|ANG)' I assume that you refer to felix's attachment, rather than my terminal output. Yes. $ env | grep -E '^L(C_|ANG)' $ Hrm, in that case applications are supposed to fall back to the C locale, IIRC. However, it's possible that mplayer is trying to guess your language and getting it wrong. Try doing: LANG=en_US; export LANG before your mplayer command and see if that helps. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
On Tuesday 11 September 2007, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart': How does my host get root access like that? Physical access to the box = root in many cases. Also, if it's some vserver type setup, root on the host can get root access on the guest machines. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord says permission denied
The only things that I can guess are that it is trying to update something in /proc or it needs to load a kernel module before writing. Just for fun - try burning a disk as root. Then try burning another dist as a non-root user. If the the second disk burns then one or the other of the above is the problem. -Good Luck, Stephen On 9/11/07, Renat Golubchyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:04:04 -0300 Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you try adding yourself to the cdrom group? I *am* in the cdrom group, as I have already wrote. $ groups adm wheel cron audio cdrom video cdrw usb users locate portage plugdev Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
This process is the ssh daemon: root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd Two things: before killing the process with the KILL signal, I would try killing it with TERM kill -TERM 2988 If that doesn't work then kill the process with the KILL signal. I would also use: /etc/init.d/sshd restart This will give the init script a chance to do some cleanup work before restarting -Best of Luck, Stephen On 9/10/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded ssh and when I try to restart I get: * Stopping sshd ... [ !! ] I don't see anything about it in '/var/log/sshd/current'. How can I figure out what is wrong? I'm a little nervous because I don't want to shut myself out of this remote server. I had a similar issue after a previous update to ssh when I went to restart it to get it to use the new binaries. One of the nice features of sshd is that your current session will say active even if you kill the sshd daemon process. Of course, if you get disconnected then you will not be able to log back in, so it's good to do what you need to quickly if you do need to kill (or if it's really stuck, kill -9) the process. When I had this problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER /etc/init.d/sshd start` - just be sure that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your sshd login forks at the same time. OK, I've got to be really careful here. I see the following processes in 'ps -ef': root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 7573 2988 0 07:28 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 Should I: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd start Are you sure? :) - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] awstats
Try changing: ScriptAlias /awstats /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/hostroot/cgi-bin/awstats.pl ScriptAlias /awstats.pl /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/hostroot/cgi-bin/awstats.pl To: ScriptAlias /awstats /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/hostroot/cgi-bin Also I specifically include: AddHandler cgi-script .cgi AddHandler cgi-script .pl I don't know if this is required for awstats to work, but it does for some other scripts. Lastly, make sure that the data directory specified in the awstats config file is writeable by the CGI script. Last, check the apache error logs after trying to access the page and let us know what they say. -Best of Luck, Stephen On 9/9/07, Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Jason Carson wrote: I've installed awstats on my server but when I go to access them from http://canuckster.org/awstats/awstats.pl it says... Forbidden You don't have permission to access /awstats/awstats.pl on this server What do I do? Hi Jay, The obvious questions: What are the permissions? Have you checked the apache logs for messages? I've got it running on a non-gentoo machine. It's in /var/www/mydomain/cgi-bin and permitted as: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 527395 Feb 25 2005 awstats.pl* [ HTH, David I have the same permissions. I also have awstats.pl in two locations... 1)/var/www/localhost/cgi-bin/awstats.pl 2)/usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/hostroot/cgi-bin/awstats.pl I think the second one is what matters, here is part of my /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/00_default_vhost.conf (apache 2.2.6 released today) Alias /awstats/classes /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/htdocs/classes/ Alias /awstats/css /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/htdocs/css/ Alias /awstats/icons /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/htdocs/icon/ ScriptAlias /awstats/ /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/hostroot/cgi-bin/ ScriptAlias /awstats /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/hostroot/cgi-bin/awstats.pl ScriptAlias /awstats.pl /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/hostroot/cgi-bin/awstats.pl Directory /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/htdocs Options None AllowOverride None IfModule mod_access.c Order allow,deny Allow from all /IfModule /Directory Directory /usr/share/webapps/awstats/6.5-r1/hostroot/cgi-bin Options ExecCGI AllowOverride None IfModule mod_access.c Order allow,deny Allow from all /IfModule /Directory -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
Yes. As a personal preference I don't usually chain commands together when trouble shooting something, but there is technically nothing wrong with doing so. -Stephen On 9/10/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This process is the ssh daemon: root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd Two things: before killing the process with the KILL signal, I would try killing it with TERM kill -TERM 2988 If that doesn't work then kill the process with the KILL signal. I would also use: /etc/init.d/sshd restart This will give the init script a chance to do some cleanup work before restarting Do this: kill -TERM 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd restart and if that doesn't work, do: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd restart ? - Grant I just upgraded ssh and when I try to restart I get: * Stopping sshd ... [ !! ] I don't see anything about it in '/var/log/sshd/current'. How can I figure out what is wrong? I'm a little nervous because I don't want to shut myself out of this remote server. I had a similar issue after a previous update to ssh when I went to restart it to get it to use the new binaries. One of the nice features of sshd is that your current session will say active even if you kill the sshd daemon process. Of course, if you get disconnected then you will not be able to log back in, so it's good to do what you need to quickly if you do need to kill (or if it's really stuck, kill -9) the process. When I had this problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER /etc/init.d/sshd start` - just be sure that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your sshd login forks at the same time. OK, I've got to be really careful here. I see the following processes in 'ps -ef': root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 7573 2988 0 07:28 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 Should I: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd start Are you sure? :) - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
Killing the ssh daemon does not effect any of the existing connections. The ssh daemon is used to listen for new connections and create a process to handle communications with that request. That is why when you update configuration parameters for sshd, they do not take effect until the next connection. The problem with connecting to the server via telnet is that your password can be easily intercepted - which is one of the major reasons telnet has been depreciated. -Stephen On 9/10/07, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Grant wrote: Should I: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd start Are you sure? :) Sounds scary to kill sshd remotely, specially over ssh :P That's why I usually have a telnet server up during ssh upgrade times. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Servicios Ofrecidos: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ Unase a los Foros GNU/Buanzo - La palabra Comunidad en su maxima expresion. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5Yd+AlpOsGhXcE0RCqCvAJ46Spe77Qukj5oYjCAtBK4lO0cZ4QCcCm24 U/zSADTHUKzZZ/G2dkZZkbo= =5uQv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
I think that there may be something significantly wrong with your box (or configuration of sshd). I have never had a server disconnect an active connection when killing the ssh daemon. If there is someone that you can contact in the data center I would ask them to: 1) Backup your current sshd_config file 2) Restore the default sshd_config on the box, and then try restart the daemon Are there any other applications that are not behaving correctly? -Stephen On 9/10/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. As a personal preference I don't usually chain commands together when trouble shooting something, but there is technically nothing wrong with doing so. And now I'm locked out. What do you think guys? - Grant This process is the ssh daemon: root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd Two things: before killing the process with the KILL signal, I would try killing it with TERM kill -TERM 2988 If that doesn't work then kill the process with the KILL signal. I would also use: /etc/init.d/sshd restart This will give the init script a chance to do some cleanup work before restarting Do this: kill -TERM 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd restart and if that doesn't work, do: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd restart ? - Grant I just upgraded ssh and when I try to restart I get: * Stopping sshd ... [ !! ] I don't see anything about it in '/var/log/sshd/current'. How can I figure out what is wrong? I'm a little nervous because I don't want to shut myself out of this remote server. I had a similar issue after a previous update to ssh when I went to restart it to get it to use the new binaries. One of the nice features of sshd is that your current session will say active even if you kill the sshd daemon process. Of course, if you get disconnected then you will not be able to log back in, so it's good to do what you need to quickly if you do need to kill (or if it's really stuck, kill -9) the process. When I had this problem I issued a `kill -9 PID_NUMBER /etc/init.d/sshd start` - just be sure that you're killing the /usr/sbin/sshd process and not one of your sshd login forks at the same time. OK, I've got to be really careful here. I see the following processes in 'ps -ef': root 2988 1 0 Sep04 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 7573 2988 0 07:28 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 Should I: kill -9 2988 /etc/init.d/sshd start Are you sure? :) - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
Yes, accessing the machine via telnet over an encrypted VPN connection
is a safe way to access the box, but given the setup that Grant was
describing it did not sound like he had a encrypted VPN setup to
telnet over.
I also agree that having a secondary way of accessing the box, that is
secure, is an important factor when updating a remote server (whether
that be another encrypted connection or people you can contact locally
in the data center). Other people had already suggested starting a
copy of the server manually on the a different port.
For Grant:
I reread the init script for sshd, and I know see what was most likely
the problem. The init script, now, tries to kill all instances with
the process name of sshd, not just the daemon (as specified by the pid
file). This is why you were locked out when trying to restart the
daemon. If you can restart the machine, everything should be working
fine after a reboot. This behavior differs from every other distro of
linux that I have used, and with previous versions of the init script.
Sorry I missed that before emailing the list last time.
Complete Side Note:
Does anyone know where to issue a bug report to try to have this
behavior changed. The correct (and more widely) seen behavior of
restart for sshd should be something similar to:
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --retry 30 --pidfile ${SSHD_PIDFILE}
On 9/10/07, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Stephen Wittig wrote:
Killing the ssh daemon does not effect any of the existing
connections. The ssh daemon is used to listen for new connections and
create a process to handle communications with that request. That is
why when you update configuration parameters for sshd, they do not
take effect until the next connection.
In an ideal world, yes. But humans tend to make mistakes. Grant is now
locked-out of his system
because of messing around with conditional execution, kill and sshd all in
the same command.
The problem with connecting to the server via telnet is that your
password can be easily intercepted - which is one of the major reasons
telnet has been depreciated.
I use it over openvpn ;)
COme on, 13 years of using Linux, I should've learned a couple of tricks
already :P
- --
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Servicios Ofrecidos: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/
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Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
The current init script will not try to restart the daemon if everything does not exit cleanly. We already know that the main process won't exit cleanly since it was manually killed. Unless you are comfortable editing the init script I would suggest: 1) Type: ps auxww |grep /usr/sbin/sshd |grep -v grep This will give you the process id of the current sshd daemon. Write it down for later use. 2) On the following page, do steps 1 and 2 (I know this article is specifically related to upgrading sshd on redhat, but these steps are the same for gentoo): http://www.hackinglinuxexposed.com/articles/20020319.html This will give you a temporary sshd server, so that we can kill off all of your old sshd process, while still giving you access to the machine. It will also make sure that there are not any configuration problems with your current sshd_config file that are preventing the daemon from starting. If this copy of sshd daemon won't start then we know the problem is a configuration error or that the binary somehow became corrupted. 3) Kill off the current sshd process from step 1 kill -TERM sshd_pid -- or -- kill -KILL sshd_pid 4) Type: /etc/init.d/sshd zap DO NOT USE the stop or restart commands - they will kill off your temporary ssh server from step 2 5) Type: /etc/init.d/sshd start 6) Try connecting to your server as you normally would. If everything is working, then your can kill off the ssh daemon running on the alternate port. If it still doesn't start then its off two round three problem solving... -Good Luck, Stephen On 9/10/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Grant: I reread the init script for sshd, and I know see what was most likely the problem. The init script, now, tries to kill all instances with the process name of sshd, not just the daemon (as specified by the pid file). This is why you were locked out when trying to restart the daemon. If you can restart the machine, everything should be working fine after a reboot. This behavior differs from every other distro of linux that I have used, and with previous versions of the init script. Sorry I missed that before emailing the list last time. That's alright, I really appreciate your attention. One thing though. Your init script discovery doesn't explain why sshd wouldn't restart (stop actually) when I was logged in does it? Given that, do you still think restarting is the way to go? I'm just trying to make sure I don't restart and still not have access. That would be bad because there is a crucial daemon running now that won't come up automatically. Please tell me what you think. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
Complete Side Note: Does anyone know where to issue a bug report to try to have this behavior changed. The correct (and more widely) seen behavior of http://bugzilla.gentoo.org I guess. Now, I know why I have never tried to submit a bug report before :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!
On Monday 27 August 2007, Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Can you imagine what makes a software consumes five hundrend Megabits of memory? 1. Unused memory is wasted. 2. 64MiB ( 512Mb) is not that much in the modern era. Or did you mean 500MiB instead of 500Mb? Memory is generally measured in bytes, and generally uses the binary SI prefixes; bandwidth is usually the opposite (bits and decimal SI). 3. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148385 4. Have you used an application based of the Strigi indexer? That's what's going to be used for KDE 4.0, and I really haven't heard many complaints about it. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Last time I did a file count in my home directory, it came up with 170,000 files (including sub-directories). It's a pain to keep that amount of data organised in a hierarchical filesystem. Better let the computer do the hard work. $ find /home/bss | wc -l 158254 $ du -sh /home/bss 2.6T/home/bss $ du -s /home/bss 2695039198 /home/bss Desktop search would be a useless waste of resources for me. I don't spend much time organizing files, but I do think about where to put them when I create/save them. I know where all my data is already. It might not be the right tool for you and me, but there are lots of users out there for whom it is the right thing - if it doesn't use too much of system resources. KDE4 will hopefully get it right. As long as I can turn it off, I think providing a feature many users want (3 of the 4 Linux users in my house) is a good use of developer resources. Heck, I might even like it once I try it. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Steen Eugen Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Desktop search engines is this centuries wheel invention. It's simply put a major breakthrough in how we work with our desktop. LOL Wow, I've got my dose of hype for the next month (or more). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Think of secretaries who aren't interested in computers but need to use them. Think of musicians who want to use computers for composing without really under them. Think of any person who just uses computers without actually knowing what a file or a directory is. Computers aren't for geeks only. Computers are tools, and thus, have some required knowledge to use them. If you don't know what a file or (directory/folder) is, you should stay away from them -- you might hurt yourself. You don't use power tools or even cars without training for the same reason. Using those search engines is like reinventing the wheel or programing embedded devices with java... ;) Or like inventing the next generation wheel. Think of people using a microwave for heating up food. They know they can do that. They don't need to know that only water, fat and sugar actually heat up in a microwave as long as they stick to food. If they start to experiment with other things ... well, they have to understand how microwaves work. I don't expect my users to be able to write a filesystem in C, design an IC, or understand the OSI 7 layer model. I do expect them to be able to use files and folders (a.k.a. directories). Especially since most office workers, and quite a few non-office workers use files and folders to mange their paperwork every day. I'm sure DSE will be a feature many users will like and probably even become dependent on. It's NOT the next generation wheel, it's not even something I'll use, but it has it's place. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?': Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Unless you want to use LVM. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestion re: expat problems
On Sunday 26 August 2007, Michael J. Barillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Suggestion re: expat problems': I suggest that packages have optional Portage release notes, and when an `emerge --sync' is performed, any release notes of the updated packages are cat'ed together and displayed to the user (with `less' or another configured viewer). The eselect news module is supposed to handle this. IIRC, notices / news were part of GLEP 42. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] torrent issue
On Monday 20 August 2007, ionut cristian cucu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] torrent issue': i have a strange issue with torrent clients: they freeze my computer. Sometimes i just start the legal download and my computer stops responding, other times at some point while downloading. Everything else works just fine. I did a memtest nothing came out wrong. I'm using an ~amd64 box with 2.6.21-gentoo-r3. Whether I use a C or a python client it crashes my system bad(only a hard reset works), even if X is not started a console client will freeze my computer. I used torrents before and worked fine but now, well now they don't. Do you have any ideea? Check dmesg for anything related to your network (the hw specifically, but software could be at fault, too), before the crash occurs. (Even better if you sync-log it so you'll have it after the system crashes.) Assuming it's not your memory it is most likely the network card. You might want to check your memory with something other than memtest -- I know there have been some scripts posted to this list that claim to catch timing issues much better than memtest. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] torrent issue
On Monday 20 August 2007, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] torrent issue': sync-log ? Set it up to be logged synchronously (without buffering). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] no standalone jre?
On Sunday 19 August 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] no standalone jre?': On Sunday 19 August 2007 16:57:17 Ralf Stephan wrote: when installing jre, a full jdk is downloaded (57M). Is this a bug? I don't really recall the reason for virtual/jdk to be the default provider of virtual/jre but you can find it somewhere on bugs.gentoo.org if you care... ;) It's probably the fact that Gentoo is source-based, so java packages normally require a jdk (for javac) anyway. That said java in the browser only requires a jre, even on Gentoo. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome!
On Sunday 19 August 2007, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome!': I logged into GNOME, no programs had title bars, and I couldn't Alt+TAB between them. How can I fix this? How can I even find out exactly what package is causing the problem? When I log in, I get a message - something about accessibility, but everything else seems normal except for the lack of title bars. This is usually caused by a missing/crashing/failing window manager. The default window manager in Gnome is metacity (IIRC). If you use compiz/beryl/compiz-fusion, this may be separated into a different program called the window decorator. The perferred window decorator for Gnome is heliodor (IIRC). Since your KDE window manager seems to work, you should be able to start gnome and then start: kwin --replace on the same display to get a more functional Gnome desktop. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] how to enable hard masked USE flags like (-altivec)?
On Friday 17 August 2007, Wang, Baojun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] how to enable hard masked USE flags like (-altivec)?': altivec is hard masked by x86_64(amd64), how can I enable it temporaly? Thanks! /etc/portage/profile/use.unmask, IIRC. You'll probably have to create that file, and may need to create some of the directory structure. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] pendrive mounting problem
On Wednesday 15 August 2007, Matthew R. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] pendrive mounting problem': On Wednesday 15 August 2007 18:38, Xav' wrote: You can see here that codepage cp437, which is needed by FAT to mount your key, is not found. So you have to compile it in your kernel as module or builtin, as you wish, by activating the option under File Systems -- Native Language Support -- M Codepage 437 (United States, Canada) After recompile your kernel,reboot and enjoy mounting your key ;) As I stated in earlier posts, the NIS support is compiled into my current kernel, atleast that's what the .config states Okay, but there a over a dozen modules for specific character sets that all depend on the main nls support option. You don't seem to have the cp437 driver. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet bridge
On Monday 13 August 2007, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Internet bridge': On 13 August 2007, Mateus Interciso wrote: but since I really need Level 2 Routing, I can't afford doing this with nat. I beg your pardon? NATting and masquerading takes place on layer 2 (IP). Actually, NAT takes place at level 3 (IP). The levels are: 1. Physical (Cat5, Coax, Fiber, et. al.) 2. Link (Ethernet, ARP, etc.) 3. Address/Routing (IP) 4. Connection (TCP/UDP) 5. Session (Um, TLS, maybe?) 6. Presentation (Not really used at all) 7. Application (HTTP et. al.) 8. User (ID ten T errors) 9. Bureaucracy Okay, I made up 8 and 9. Oh, I might have gotten 6/7 swapped, but I don't think so. You probably don't want level 2 routing. What are you trying to do that makes you think you need it? AFAIK, this will never work. If you really need incoming connections on certain ports you can use port forwarding with NAT on your firewall. Bridging is not for this kind of thing. Yeah, port forwarding is probably what you want. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] GHC and documentation
On Tuesday 14 August 2007, Iván Pérez Domínguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] GHC and documentation': Shouldn't its documentation be included as a different package? That may be the way Debian does things, but gentoo does not split documentation, header files, or debug information into separate packages. Instead, documentation is controlled by a USE flag, header files are always installed, and debug information is controlled by FEATURES. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Receiving your own emails
On Tuesday 14 August 2007, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] OT: Receiving your own emails': Is Gmail filtering these messages or what's going on? They are received, and I think they are even stored but, gmail doesn't show your own mails to you by default. I'm not sure how to change that. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CXXABI error after gcc upgrade
On Monday 13 August 2007, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] CXXABI error after gcc upgrade': # emerge -C -p -v gcc Wrong-ish command line. Try emerge -aP gcc -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Set up drupal with postgres
On Thursday 09 August 2007, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about '[gentoo-user] Set up drupal with postgres':
USE mysql;
\c postgres
INSERT INTO user (host, user, password, select_priv, insert_priv,
update_priv) VALUES ('localhost', 'drupal', PASSWORD('passwd'), 'Y',
'Y', 'Y');
CREATE USER 'drupal';
CREATE database drupal;
(unchanged)
USE drupal;
\c drupal
GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON drupal.* TO drupal@'%' IDENTIFIED BY 'passwd';
Probably easiest to just make the drupal user the owner of the drupal
database.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Set up drupal with postgres
On Thursday 09 August 2007, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Set up drupal with postgres': On Thursday 09 August 2007 20:29, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Thursday 09 August 2007, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON drupal.* TO drupal@'%' IDENTIFIED BY 'passwd'; Probably easiest to just make the drupal user the owner of the drupal database. Thank you Boyd! I'll try this out - although it seems that the default script already created a drupal database owned by postgres. :@ You can do something like: CREATE DATABASE 'drupal' WITH OWNER 'drupal'; a) how do you create different vhosts (I only have localhost under /var/www/locahost/). All of this a apache (or other httpd) configuration, you should be able to pattern your vhost(s) off of the default one installed by the package. b) how do you run/access drupal (the drupal files seem to be under /usr/share/webapps/drupal/5.2/htdocs). man webapp-config -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Unknown Tool hd
On Monday 06 August 2007 02:13:58 pm Linux wrote: I have a problem with a script refering to several tools, one is hd hd is the short name for hexdump. (When hexdump is invoked as hd, it assumes certain options.) Gentoo's hexdump package does not provide the short name, but you can make a sym or hardlink after installing that package. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpQpQ1UVB2Kg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] rescrict command to certain dirs
On Thursday 02 August 2007 08:54:21 am Martin Gysel wrote: I have a webserver running for multiple 'endusers'. No I want to give some costumers access to certain files as user WEBSERVER for easy editing configuration file owned by the webserver. it should do something like jail the user to /var/www/vhosts/DOMAIN/httpdocs/DIRtoFILES and let him perform some commands (rm, less, nano, etc) there as user WEBSERVER. As long as WEBSERVER isn't root, you should be able to use a combination of sudo/su and chroot. There are some ways to escape a chroot, but I *think* they all depend on being root inside the chroot, or exploiting other service running outside the chroot. (E.g. if connections from localhost are trusted.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpOJywobtH7X.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc with other distro (Debian)
On Friday 03 August 2007 01:34:37 am Ric de France wrote: There may be a gotcha of glibc (or other) incompatibilities / inconsistencies between Gentoo and Debian, but I'm sure others on this list can advise you better. distcc only farms out the actual compiling. Pre-processing is done locally, so it uses your local header files. Linking is also done locally, so it will use your local libraries. [1] That said, if you have incompatible compilers (e.g. gcc-3.3 vs. gcc-3.4) you may have issues, and they may or may not be caught at link time. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ [1] distcc tries to be smart when passed a command-line that would do both compiling and (pre-processing or linking), but when it can't separate the stages, it will end up using your local compiler. pgpjHFBj0tQZO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks to the user community
On Monday 30 July 2007 12:25:47 am Iain Buchanan wrote: On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 23:43 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Sunday 29 July 2007 11:06:44 pm Iain Buchanan wrote: On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 08:13 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: But seriously, shouldn't we be waiting until November to say this? ;-) why, what happens in November? In the U.S., Thanksgiving. ahh. cheekAnd you can't be thankful except at thanksgiving?/cheek Are you suggesting undermining a great Amurican Holly-Day? Why do you hate freedom? ;) politics, n.: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. -- Ambrose Bierce :) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpcJnW6TpRCi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] insert text onto a PDF
On Monday 30 July 2007 04:49:47 am Pavel Sanda wrote: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge pdfedit OP, Please don't do this or your next emerge world will be (more) painful. You may also end up getting more unstable packages than you absolutely need. Pavel, please don't suggest this is a sane way to run emerge in the future. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpfGZR9q7Hq6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] program autostart from another user
On Monday 30 July 2007 03:29:36 am Aleksey V. Kunitskiy wrote: I want to auto start some programs on startup, using init My local.start looks like: sudo -u user_name screen program My question is - is it the right way? You don't have to use screen, but that should work. How can I attach next program to existing screen session (by creating new buffer in screen session)? Reading over the manpage, something like this (but sudo -ud) should work: # Create a new screen session, detached, with name screen -d -m -S system-autostart-foo # In a named window in that session, run bar screen -S system-autostart-foo -X at cmd-bar# bar # In a named window in that session, run baz screen -S system-autostart-foo -X at cmd-baz# baz But, I've never tried to use screen in this way, no this is just a guess. I'm sure it's possible to use screen the way you want. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpFwKiWm5eij.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: reiserfsprogs
On Monday 30 July 2007, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: reiserfsprogs': On 7/30/07, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5) If (2) indicates corruptions that can only be corrected by --rebuild-tree b) Begin praying. This guy knows his stuff. Last time I used reiser I didn't pray enough to keep it going All joking aside, I've recovered reiserfs much more often than I've gotten anything useful out of a bad ext2/3 filesystem. You have to know it's limitations, but I've had a growing reiserfs file system for over two years now that I've had to --rebuild-tree on at least 3 times and never lost a drop of data. My ext2/3 boot patition has died a similar number of times, and no amount of e2fsck gave me any data back (but luckily, /boot is fairly easy to rebuild). I swear *by* reiser much more often than I swear *at* reiser, but I've done both. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: reiserfsprogs
On Monday 30 July 2007, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: reiserfsprogs': Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: Neil wrote: If all else fails, and provided you have enabled CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ in your kernel, hold down Alt and SysReq/PrtScr and press S, U and B in turn to reboot (reasonably) cleanly. Pausing a couple of seconds between each key is probably a good idea. Interesting idea however this laptop does not have this key SysReq/PrtScr. Every keyboard has a SysRq button. On most, it is shared with PrtScrn. However, I've also seen it shared with either an F key or ScrollLock or by itself. Also, I've seen laptops where you had to hold the Fn key to get a key that acts like SysRq. I guarantee you've got one, although I suppose it might not be labeled SysRq at all. E, I, S, U, B so everything is killed, and nothing trying to write to disk, when unmounting them. Hmm, I do not think you understand, when I exit X/kde the entire system is latched up tight. None of the keys work, nothing is echoed to the screen, the system is latched up tight. Please *try* the Alt+SysRq instructions if you haven't already. Those are handled directly by the kernel at a fairly high priority. I've had everything else be ignored, including C+A+Del, and had Alt+SysRq save my filesystems. It is possible that you might not see anything happen after E, I, S, and U, especially if you were previously in X, since the kernel is trying to write to the text-mode console but things are happening unless your kernel has crashed. All other keystrokes travel to user-space to be processed, so if your kernel is busy, they won't do anything. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks to the user community
On Sunday 29 July 2007 11:06:44 pm Iain Buchanan wrote: On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 08:13 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: But seriously, shouldn't we be waiting until November to say this? ;-) why, what happens in November? In the U.S., Thanksgiving. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpoPs3XRVRyQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Running Scripts
On Saturday 28 July 2007, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Running Scripts':
On 7/29/07, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 28 July 2007, Kent Fredric wrote:
try a plain old bash script and see if that works, and try this and
see if it works:
cat testrun.c
#include stdio.h
int main(int argc, int* argv)
{
printf(helloworld);
}
( press ctrl+d here )
make testrun
Without writing a Makefile, make won't build the program. ;-)
funny, it did for me :P
$ls -l testrun.c Makefile
ls: cannot access Makefile: No such file or directory
-rw-r--r-- 1 devious users 77 2007-07-29 00:24 testrun.c
$make testrun
cc testrun.c -o testrun
That cool, but don't count on it to work on all makes.
I'm fairly sure an empty Makefile is valid, since there already suffix
rules required by the standard -- there's just no default target. I guess
GNU make takes that to the logical conclusion and lets you run entirely
without a Makefile as long as you specify a target.
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge masked pidgin with flagedit
On Friday 27 July 2007, maximuswork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] emerge masked pidgin with flagedit': Thufir пишет: --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: net-im/pidgin-2.0.2 Aha! See there's a problem with your /etc/portage/package.keywords. localhost ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.keywords net-im/pidgin-2.0.2 ~x86 Oh, that first part is an invalid atom. The proper systax for atoms is in the ebuild manpage, IIRC. In any case, your problem is that you've specified a version, without a comparator. You probably want '~net-im/pidgin-2.0.2' instead of just 'net-im/pidgin-2.0.2'. The tilde indicates that version, or any ebuild revisions (e.g. -r1) or the same version. You could use '=' instead of tilde, if you really don't want any other ebuild revisions. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge pidgin Um, no. Not unless the OP wants ~x86 dependencies to be brought in, and all that downgraded to x86 when they do their next emerge world. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] A Thank you to the Developers for the Free Software
On Friday 27 July 2007, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] A Thank you to the Developers for the Free Software': I just wanted to take some time to officially say *Thank You* for all the good things which you guys/gals have made to my(/our) benefit. +1 -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Running Scripts
On Friday 27 July 2007, Greg Lindstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Running Scripts': -bash: ./hello.py: /usr/bin/env: bad interpreter: Permission denied running /usr/bin/python brings up the python shell, so that's in place. which env ls -l /usr/bin/env ls -l /usr/bin/python -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge masked pidgin with flagedit
On Friday 27 July 2007, Thufir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] emerge masked pidgin with flagedit': Didn't I do that? For some things, the equals sign doesn't seem to be required when using flagedit, for others it seems to be. Yes, because it is expecting an ebuild atom. Do man 5 ebuild and read the section on 'DEPEND Atoms', they have a simple but precise syntax. BTW, if the wiki is broken, just fix it. I'm not sure it's an official source of documentation anyway. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] The Future of the Gentoo Foundation
On Friday 27 July 2007, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] The Future of the Gentoo Foundation': Then the idea that the Gentoo Foundation might 'cease to exist as an entity' isn't really bad news? It's bad news, but not as bad as you think. Some clarification might be in order. The foundation serves an a single legal entity that can do and own things on behalf of Gentoo. However, before the foundation things were done and owned by the volunteers that make up Gentoo. This is not ideal, which is why the foundation was created, but Gentoo could certainly run like that again until the foundation could be reformed under management that knows how to file paperwork. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Notebook/laptop recommendations?
On Sunday 22 July 2007, Crayon Shin Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Notebook/laptop recommendations?': I'm looking for a new notebook (to run Gentoo of course). I don't want the latest nor the best (too expensive), but it needs to have Core 2 Duo. Are there any particular manufacturers/models where it just works in terms of driver support? 2 items that I would like for it to just work with the minimum of fuss are the wlan and the hibernation. So anything I should look out for or avoid, to make installing Gentoo as painless as possible? I've had very good luck with my dellbuntu system. System 76 also goes out of the way to make sure their hardware is linux friendly. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.2 and Core 2 Duo
On Friday 20 July 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.2 and Core 2 Duo': If they have the same value, or -march is listed after -mtune, yes. -march implies -mtune, but you might do something like -march=686 -mtune=native -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
On Thursday 19 July 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??': -Original Message- From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't like the GPLv3, you probably didn't *really* like the GPLv2 and might be more interested in licensing anything you contribute under something like MIT/X11/BSD. Those licenses allow others to take your code, cripple it, and sell it to you (perhaps even on a device) for $100. Oh, and offer you an upgrade to (_the same device_ running) your original code (which still has a few bugs, you might want a support contract) for $1. I can't agree with your statements here. Unless you have no understanding of copyright law, you should realize that YOUR code cannot be crippled regardless of the license that you put it under. Not true. Say you release code into the public domain [1]. Now, evil corporation X takes that code, strips out some features, sign it and put it on a cell phone. They sell you the phone for $300 (free with 2 year contract) or a version with your original software on it (the exact same hardware) for $600 (no discount available). They pull a TiVo can ensure that you can't load modified software on it -- or you can but then the phone refuses to do anything put print This phone needs service. Please take this phone to your local retailer for service. They don't even tell you it's your code -- someone in Turkey found that out and emailed you in broken English. ;) Your code is locked up and you can no longer upgrade it (or even use ALL of the features that YOU wrote) without paying $$$. Sure, you can still upgrade and release your code, but you can't run it on a device YOU PAID for that is ALREADY running YOUR code, UNMODIFIED. You also can't help other people using these phones that THEY paid for, even though your code runs unmodified. The GPL has always been engineered to prevent this behavior. The GPLv1 and GPLv2 both concentrated on the way to prevent this through copyright law. However, this has proven to be not enough. After bring cases to count (and settling because the case was so clear-cut) multiple times, it became fairly clear to all parties that GPLv2 was overly difficult, if not impossible, to be simply attacking with copyright law. So, entities that would rather not contribute, have attacked with technological and patent-law methods to restrict users' freedoms and the GPLv3 meets those attacks head on. I hope RMS and the FSF will act even more quickly (either with aggressive litigation or further license revisions) to future attacks on the freedoms that are meant to be preserved throughout the Free Software ecosystem. The code that YOU write and release under an Open Source or Free Software license will still be available under that license even after someone else uses it in a project of their own. Yes. If you use a license that allows for relicensing or closing of the code and someone does so, then it only effects THEIR Version of the code. Yours is still intact, and unharmed. With the BSD lincese and public domain, we get into case case where the freedom of the code depends on where you take the measurement (see above). RMS witnessed such things happening and preventing the free code from always free. Thus, he wrote the GPLv1 with the goal of making sure Free Software was free everywhere and to everyone. The MIT/BSD/etc licenses have the advantage that a person can if they so desire CHOOSE whether or not they wish to make THEIR code and modifications available. This is a choice. They ALSO get to choose whether they give their users your code and can even prevent users from knowing what code they are running, especially if your are prolific. The GPL also covers (read: places restrictions on) derivative works, something that is your right as a copyright holder. BSD/MIT/X11 don't, and LGPL makes only minimal requirements on derivative works to ensure the original work remains free. Many of us WILL release our own code even under those terms, but it is a choice to do so. I am not saying that the idea of GPL is wrong. Different developers have different desires for their code. I am simply saying that the Open Source route is just as valid as the Free Software route. But the GPL has *always* been about Free Software, not just Open Source. By accepting the terms of the GPLv2, TiVo should have been prepared to honor the Free Software definition and not attempt to restrict their users' freedoms. As a user I wish *every* piece of software I received was under the terms of the GPLv3. As a developer, I understand the allure of the BSD license -- it's great to be able to grab others' stuff with a few strings attached as possible. However, since I'll always end up using more code than I write, I prefer to release under the GPLv3. As for selling it back to you. It is up to every person to take
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader
On Thursday 19 July 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader': I have seen many of them that the man page and the info page were identicle. More often though it looked like they made a decent man page, and coppied it to info. info automatically pulls man pages an reformats them if there not info page for that node and there exists a man page with that name. I'm fairly sure most info-viewers (including kio_info) do so. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??': On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: The TiVo thing was completely within the word and spirit of the GPL. It was *barely* within the word, and definitely not within the spirit of the GPL. Don't beleive me? Ask anyone at the FSF or RMS himself. They wrote the thing. TiVo did just that and got the A-OK signal and thumbs up from the FSF's lawyers. That's because you *could* swap out the software on early TiVos. Sometime later, someone had a hissy fit, FSF reversed their stated position and suddenly Tivo becomes spawn of satan. Because they started artificially limiting users' freedoms 0, 1, and partially 3. Tivo had no option, their content providers would never have given them a license to redistribute content without the mods they did It's not my (or my community's, or my code's) job to support your business model. If you can't play by the license, then you can't use the software. It's not the software that is crippled, it's the hardware. No, it's the software because they haven't given it all to us. For software to run on the device it was *designed* to run on it's required to be signed; therefore, the signature is part of the binary and a derivative of a GPLv2 work. That work distributed presumably under the GPLv2, which means the source (preferred format for making modifications) must be provided, and TiVo has not yet published the necessary tools for us to generate our own signatures. They are therefore limiting freedom 1, which limits freedom 0, and indirectly freedom 3, because the community cannot benefit. So, in what way have Tivo removed people's freedom as granted by the GPL? Artificially limiting freedoms 0, 1, and 3. The restriction is fundamentally different from a RAM or HD space limit; a binary that does nothing but play pong (well within the hardware capabilities of the TiVo) is still not allowed to run without the signature. Personally, I think TiVo COULD be called out for violating GPLv2, but IANAL and Eben is and declined to file suit against them. Under the GPLv3, users' freedoms are better protected, and it's quite clear that TiVo would/will be in violation of that license. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??': What should I do, in your opinion? Probably LGPLv3, which will allow GPLv2 (and proprietary) projects to use it without requiring the combined work to be GPLv3. Actually, I'm probably going to take a pen to the LGPLv3 in the future and turn it into something along the lines of GPLv3 or, if your larger work is licenced under any version of the GPL, LGPLv3, but that's for the future and I'll want to run the license by the FSF first before using it. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??': However, this is not the point. The point is that Tivo SOLD people hardware This is the salient point for me, too. If hardware was still owned by TiVo (in reality, not just in name) I'd have no problem with them deciding what can run on it and taking steps to prevent tampering. I'm not sure Stallman would agree with me -- users may or may not own the device their software runs on, and Stallman is all about users. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
On Wednesday 18 July 2007, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??': a) nobody is forced to buy a tivo. If you don't like it, don't buy it and you don't have problems. TiVo isn't forced to use GPLv3 licensed code -- if they don't use it, they don't have problems. b) AFAIR Linus owns a Tivo himself. Yes, I believe he does. c) it is morally wrong to try to dictate HARDWARE licence problems with a SOFTWARE licence There's no requirement on the hardware that runs GPLv3 software. You just have to provide the whole source (preferred format for modification) to the full binary (everything that must be in place to run the software on the device it was designed for). d) If I can't use the software freely anymore one of the key freedoms is gone. Yes, which is why the GPL v3 is necessary. This is the same stupidity like anti-terror law. Lets take away freedom and free speech to protect freedom and free speeach Except that the anti-terror laws don't protect freedom or free speech in any way, just life (and it's questionable that they do that). It's more like the laws that say you can be thrown in prison for unlawfully imprisoning others. Your freedom will be restricted (you can't use the software) if you attempt to restrict the freedoms (namely, the four freedoms) of others. e) Linus is not alone. You should read what Jesper Juhl wrote in one of the lenghty discussions on lkml. Very interessting. http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=118211628209101w=2 1) This concerns draft versions, as the final version wasn't available. 2) Mr. Juhl admits there are downsides to allowing tivoization. The question really remains -- do you want your code to be able to be locked up or not? BSD is available for those that don't care if the code is locked up. GPLv3 is available for those that want the maximum level of protection against their code (or derivatives) from being locked up. There are a quite a few other Free Software licenses between those two extremes, including GPLv2. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 06:48:38 pm Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote: On 18 Jul 2007, at 18:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: [C]ould ANYBODY claim to be surprised by say Tivo? Yes they can, since the move to DRM/TPM/etc. devices was unannounced and a change from previous generations of the hardware. There's also the fact that the code the TiVo runs *must have a signature as one of it parts* and like any GPLv2 derivative, distributors (like TiVo) must provide the full and complete source (preferred form for modification) of all the parts, which they have not. This signature requirement is implicit in the GPLv2 and explicit in the GPLv3. So was the patent license stuff. The GPLv3 is just a stronger, more well-specified GPLv2. If you don't like the GPLv3, you probably didn't *really* like the GPLv2 and might be more interested in licensing anything you contribute under something like MIT/X11/BSD. Those licenses allow others to take your code, cripple it, and sell it to you (perhaps even on a device) for $100. Oh, and offer you an upgrade to (_the same device_ running) your original code (which still has a few bugs, you might want a support contract) for $1. Plus, people who are discussing 'ethical' problems with locked hardware tend to forget, that there is enough hardware out there that a) needs an update once in a while but b) has to be temper proof by the user! You might want to read up about clinical equipment or FCC rules. Just for fun. Actually, during the GPLv3 process, both these points (FCC and medical equipment) were brought up and experts were brought in. It was determined that there is no legal requirement to make such devices tamper-proof, if upgrades are allowed at all. Equipment distributors are already protected from lawsuits (and the like) once a device is tampered with as long as they give the tamperer sufficient warning. There is no legal reason why devices must be upgradable by their distributor but not by their owner, including devices under the auspices of the FCC or medical devices. Some people need to realize that there is a fundamental difference between code and hardware. The FSF knows there's a difference between code and hardware. However, there is no difference between code on a HD and code on an EEPROM. (It's all just readable and writable bits.) There's also no difference between code on a CD and code on a ROM chip. (It's all just reabable bits.) And telling someone what he can do with HIS hardware is just wrong. You don't like the terms of the hardware vendor? Fine. Don't buy it. But buying it and than complaining is just lame. If they sell it to me it is no longer their hardware. It's MINE. That's why DRM shouldn't be allowed AT ALL, completely independent of the software distribution requirements (not hardware requirements) that the GPLv3 specifies. If TiVo was renting (really renting, not just in name like $129 lets you rent the device for 99 years) the devices, I would probably be on the other side of this discussion. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??': TiVo did not allow modified, and therefore potentially Compromised, devices connect to their network. More than that -- they don't allow the compromised devices to boot. Of course, that's *required* to lay down the restrictions they want, since one the device is booted from freely modified code, there's no method of remote attestation to guarantee your aren't just pretending to be a genuine device. This does not sound like theft of code, it sounds like sound network protocol. So, sound network protocol validates the data sent, it doesn't require the other end to be arbitrarily trusted. Remember trusted is just DoD speak for allowed to violate security policy. If you wish to maintain a secure environment that is stable for thousands of users, and has a lot of money riding on it, you do not allow compromised devices to connect. It is that simple. BS. Second life allows any client to connect as long as they follow the protocol. There's a wide variety of WoW hacks that modify the running executable (a binary patch applied at runtime) that, while not allowed under the EULA, work quite well on the real servers and have not increased the number of server crashes or scheduled restarts. Securing the network is not done by securing the remote devices. (You don't need to trusted ethernet card to connect to a cisco router, or a cable modem.) It is done by validating the data sent, having a well-defined network protocol, and disconnecting clients that provide bad data. The TiVo thing was completely within the word and spirit of the GPL. It was *barely* within the word, and definitely not within the spirit of the GPL. Don't beleive me? Ask anyone at the FSF or RMS himself. They wrote the thing. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
to effectively remove users' freedoms. The GPLv3 is all about freedom -- but freedom is only realized by restricting the ability to limit freedom. (Your freedom to swing your fist ends an inch from my face.) That is why I shy away from the GPL licenses. I like the LGPLv2, but GPLv3 is kind of scary. I want code that I make free to be free. :P I don't want to say, It is free if you are a broke penniless college kid that plans to stay that way. Sounds like you want the GPL then -- since it explicitly allows commercial use as long as the four freedoms are preserved to all users. LGPLv2 allows wide use of code, without heavy demands. LGPL does do one thing that can be nice, and it prevents the viral nature of copyright law from affecting your code -- that is it allows others the freedom to license their original work under whatever license they choose (as you did), combine it with your work, and distribute the whole as long as they follow your license for your stuff. It's a very good license, and I think that it is normally the better license to choose *unless* your goal is to have all software be Free Software. If I by some miracle produce a chunk of code that propels another entity to the top of their industry, then I have achieved something Whether I get anything in return from them or not. If they are able to take what I have produced and make it useful, then more power too them. If they give back to the community in the form of code, cash, or even morale support, then that is them playing the game by our rules. Not if you follow the GPLv2 or the spirit of the GPL. That *requires* the code to remain in the community. The GPLv3 strengthens this requirement. If you want other to be able to lock away your code (or derivative works of your code) you should use the BSD license. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
On Monday 16 July 2007, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??': On Montag, 16. Juli 2007, Jerry McBride wrote: On Monday 16 July 2007 08:15:43 am Mark Shields wrote: Personally... reading what I have about the gpl 3.0 , I'd be pretty comfortable having Gentoo/Portage moved to it. It offers a lot of protection that gpl 2. does not. Anyway, if it makes Microsoft catch up then it must be good. Actually, we should encourage commercial entities to participate the in Free Software movement, including letting them retain the ability to charge for providing software, as long as they are willing to let users of the software retain their four freedoms. Microsoft has made some movement in this direction... it takes away freedom - I am not sold to that 'must be good' aspect. Okay, this is off-topic, but it only takes away the freedom to take away users' freedoms, something the GPL has always done. BSD doesn't take away any freedoms, but I'm unconvinced that it's a good thing for Free Software to be able to be locked up. *I* think the GPLv3 is better, and that it would be good to move KDE toward GPLv3/LGPLv3 licensing. However, that is a decision that the project will have to make as a group and it would require reimplementing or relicensing all the code licensed to the under the GPLv2. That's a tough sell. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP': [W]hen loading the fglrx.ko module, I get an error about ...taints the kernel. Thus I suspect I have some option set in my kernel that conflicts with the fglrx module? No that just means that the binary you are running (kernel + modules) is not Free Software or, in this case, distributable at all. See http://www.kroah.com/log/images/ols_2006_keynote_12.jpg , part of http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html which is full of high level information about the kernel. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] FEATURES=test -- Should this work?
On Tuesday 26 June 2007, Mike Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] FEATURES=test -- Should this work?': I recently enabled the test feature on Portage I use paludis,. which does testing by default, and I've seen a number of packages fail tests. I simply mask those specific versions. Last time I checked, bug reports coming from alternative package manager users were closed fairly quickly. Since you are using portage, your bugs may get a little more attention, but I think the general consensus is that tests aren't important so they generally get dropped to low priority, ignored until the next release, then closed with a refile if it affects the current release message. Then again, perhaps I'm just feeling a bit jaded toward the Gentoo developers this morning. grumpy/ -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Where is wxWidgets/wxPython 2.8?
On Monday 25 June 2007, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Where is wxWidgets/wxPython 2.8?': wxWidgets/wxPython 2.8 has been out for about 6 months now, but hasn't even made it into testing yet. The most recent version available in portage is 2.6.3. Is there some problem with wxWidgets/wxPython 2.8? Is there anything we users can do to help? Hrm, your message seems directed at the developers. If that's the case, you sent it to the wrong mailing list. (You want -devel, next door). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] (sin asunto)
On Monday 25 June 2007 12:48:03 Matthias Guede wrote: 2007/6/25, Roberto Bermejo Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Davi escribió: Em Segunda 25 Junho 2007 14:01, Roberto BErmejo Martinez escreveu: What stage can I use with a Intel Core 2 duo?? Intel still be 64 bits... As AMD. So, you can use AMD64 too. I probe with x86, ia64 and amd64 and already don't work. Looks like you try to install from an 32bit OS. Using the amd64 Gentoo LiveCD and the adm64 stage3 should work. If you don't want a 64-bit kernel (and therefore no 64-bit applications), you can go the 32-bit route and use the (i[[:digit:]]|x)86 liveCD and stage. I don't recommend this, but it may be preferred if you use software that is (a) non-portable (and not ported) or (b) only available in binary form (non-Free). It is possible you are running into some problem with the liveCD, but as you other messages indicate you are able to see your drives and partition them, you simply can't perform the chroot -- which should only be an issue if (a) you are using a 64-bit stage from as 32-bit liveCD or (b) the stage tarball is corrupt or broken. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] usb device mp3 playlist maker
On Monday 25 June 2007, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] usb device mp3 playlist maker': I have a generic mp3 usb 256M player. Does anybody know of a program or script that will load it with tunes, in a random arrangement from a dir full of mp3s? Does it show up as a usb block device? If so, you can copy files however you choose. AmaroK should be able to generate a random playlist of X songs, and may be able to do one of X MiB. If not, you'll have to figure out if there's a driver for it, and see what methods are available using that driver. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Set a network quota per eth device?
On Thursday 21 June 2007 05:22:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use iptables counters and some scripting on bash. Most of the people do it by hands, because writing huge billing system is to comprehensive :) You could do it that way, but it rather silly since the kernel has all kinds of support for traffic control and shaping. Shorewall may be able to handle the task, and it is fairly friendly. If shorewall can't do what you need you'll need to look into the CLI to the kernel's traffic control/shaping/queuing tables: tc. Some examples and discussion are in the Linux Advanced Routing Traffic Control HOWTO. It's part of The Linux Documentation Project so it can be found either there [ http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/ ] or at it's own little corner of the web [ http://lartc.org/ ]. It's old, but still mostly useful. I can also send you some scripts built around tc for my own little home network that *might* be useful as examples. Also, foringer: A: Because it reverses the order of the conversation. Q: Why is top-posting so annoying? A: Top-posting. Q: What's the most annoying thing on mailing list and newsgroups? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] /boot without space.
On Thursday 21 June 2007 16:11:42 Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote: I was installing a boot splash when i got this message // o Creating initramfs image.. mv: writing «/boot/fbsplash-livecd-2007.0-1024x768»: There is no space left on the device. // I was surprised so I checked the /boot partition Try using: du -xa /boot | sort -rn as root to locate the space hogs, which may be hidden files. (du does lie sometimes though, because the assumptions it makes about file size aren't always true.) You might also fire up filelight and/or the file size view of konqueror (either would also need to be as root) if you prefer a graphical view. (They will suffer from the same limitations as du, but their assumptions my be different.) Oh, I'm not sure while filesystem you are using, but reiserfs reserves some space for the block usage bitmap and misc. metadata, and that takes up a number of MB. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] where is libnetsnmp-devel? (needed for hplip)
On Thursday 21 June 2007 19:40:23 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Which package contains libnetsnmp-devel? $eix -c snmp [...] [I] net-analyzer/net-snmp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/28/2006): Software for generating and retrieving SNMP data [...] Probably that one, but that's just a guess. Gentoo doesn't separate packages into -devel versions -- you get all the development stuff as part of the base package (since it's usually required to compile, as Gentoo does, pacakges that depend on it). There isn't a libnetsnmp package in gentoo, nor a netsnmp package in any of the *-libs categories. Naming something netsnmp seems a bit redundant to me anyway, I'm fairly sure the N of sNmp stands for network, so I just searched for snmp. 14 hits. 1 is in a *-libs category, but the short description says it's specifically for KDE, not what you are looking for I think. 1 (other) has lib in the name of the package, but it's specifically for ruby, again, I was fairly sure that wasn't what you were looking for. Also, other distros generally but ruby in the package name of ruby libraries. Down to 12 packages. I threw out packages in dev-perl and perl-python, again, because of other distros naming practices. 1 package was in sec-policy which is definitely not the place for a lib. 1 package was a plugin for something else, so I decided that was also probably not what you want. Down to 4 packages. At that point, I decided the most likely package was net-snmp because of the name. bsnmp says it's a library (whereas net-snmp doesn't) so that would probably be a good second choice. snmpmon (a tool) and snmptt could also ship that library, but that's probably a stretch. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login with a normal user
On Tuesday 19 June 2007 12:27:10 Jan-Hendrik Zab wrote: 'strace -f su - jonsnow': [pid 4117] execve(/bin/zsh, [-su], [/* 6 vars */]) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) Note that the trace clearly shows that /bin/zsh isn't returning an error code (in which case pid 4117 would immediately die) but rather the execve call is returning an error code and the fork()ed copy of su continues executing (writes an error to stderr and then dies). According to http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man2/execve.2.html EACCES is only returned by this function for a few reasons: 1) Search permission is denied on a component of the path prefix of filename or the name of a script interpreter. (See also path_resolution(2).) (So, make sure /bin and / are executable by uid 1000.) 2) The file or a script interpreter is not a regular file. (So, make sure /bin/zsh is not a symlink, evidently that doesn't work.) 3) Execute permission is denied for the file or a script or ELF interpreter. (So, make sure that /bin/zsh and /lib/ld-linux.so* are executable. If /bin/zsh is a script make sure the interpreter listed after #! is executable. Proceed recursively if THAT is a script.) (Also, is it possible that you don't have the right /lib/ld-linux.so? See the above link for some detail [the paragraph just above RETURN VALUE]. ldd should be able to show you which one you need.) 4) The file system is mounted noexec. (So, make sure that you filesystem is currently mounted exec.) If all of those check out, I think you'll have to use the source, luke. Permissions of '/': drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2007-06-17 16:21 // That looks a little weird, but only because of the extra '/'. On my system: $ ls -ld / drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 664 2007-06-11 20:27 / -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login with a normal user
On Tuesday 19 June 2007 14:03:20 Jan-Hendrik Zab wrote: I really dislike this problem :D /me agrees. My locally installed man page doesn't provide any other explanations for that return code, so I'm still betting it's one of those things. However, someone more skilled than I might be able to spend some time digging through libc and/or the kernel to determine an alternative cause. Does you dmesg show any kernel faults/backtraces? Sometimes they can muck up things enough to cause weird errors but not enough to crash the system. If so, I'd recommend capturing it and rebooting. Then, report the fault as a bug. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Sync and glsa-check from cron
On Tuesday 19 June 2007 17:18:45 Nick wrote: So, I'm planning to run sudo emerge --sync and sudo glsa-check -f new from a cron job, perhaps once a week. I can set up the sudoers part all fine, but is there anything I should watch out for / consider when running these maintenance tools from a cron job? Not these two, they shouldn't depend significantly on your environment variables. Just make sure you are in the right group to run cron jobs. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Sync and glsa-check from cron
On Tuesday 19 June 2007 17:26:15 Joshua Doll wrote:
Nick wrote:
I can set up the sudoers part all fine, but is there anything I
should watch out for / consider when running these maintenance tools
from a cron job?
Oh, and I forgot to mention it in my other direct reply: You'll probably need
to specify the full path to those commands. $PATH is generally different or
unset when tasks are run from cron.
I think cron can run jobs as root.
Yes, /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} contains scripts to be run as
root. Also, some (most? all?) cron daemons allow root to have a crontab
separate from the system crontab. If you have root access you can even
fiddle with the system crontab, but that's not the preferred solution.
Many cron daemons also allow jobs to be run as a user by maintaining a crontab
for each user and su-ing to the correct user (and cleaning/setting the
environment) before running the task. If I'm reading the question correctly,
he will be adding these actions to his user's crontab and then sudo-ing to
run the script. sudo can be set up to allow users to run tasks as root
without a password. sudo also cleans the environment by default, but that
can be turned off or made less strict.
However, tasks run by cron (either as root or as another user) will have
different environment variables set. e.g. /etc/profile and $HOME/.profile
are not sourced in the shell (generally cron jobs aren't run in a shell at
all). They will also generally not have a tty associated with them. Again,
if I'm reading the OP correctly, (s)he was wondering if those changes will
affect those two commands. Some commands / scripts are quite sensitive to
the environment and may give different results (or not work at all) when run
from a cron job.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help me reboot X
On Monday 18 June 2007 12:22:59 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On 6/18/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 21:16:58 -0400, Ken wrote: If you have physical access to the machine and have support for the Magic SysRq built into your kernel, you can kill the X server by pressing ALT + SysRq + K. This will kill all processes running on the current terminal. Hrm, I thought this killed ALL processes, but I could be wrong. Is that maybe Alt+SysRq+e or Alt+SysRq+i? If you are accessing via SSH, you can still use this with echo k /proc/sysrq-trigger Nice. However, I'm still wondering -- neither of my keyboards has a keytop labelled sysreq. What is it? My laptop has a specific key for it. IIRC, (my desktop is not in front of me), it shares a key with 'Print Screen'. On both (again, IIRC) it's usually shortend to just 'SysRq'. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages
On Monday 18 June 2007 14:36:05 Neil Bothwick wrote: I have most of KDE installed here, yet only 67 kde-base packages in world. I run fairly light, I have about half that many: $ grep -c ^kde /var/db/pkg/world 31 I do have a number of KDE applications installed from other parts of the tree though, like kmplayer, kaffeine, ktorrent, etc. You could reduce that sill further by using more than the two meta packages I currently have. Again, since I prefer to just install the apps I want, I only pulled in 1 meta package. $ grep ^kde /var/db/pkg/world | grep -e '-meta$' kde-base/kdeartwork-meta -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages
On Monday 18 June 2007 16:36:38 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Monday 18 June 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: /var/db/pkg/world I think your system may need updating - the world file has lived in /var/lib/portage for some time now. Paludis prefers it @ /var/db/pkg/world. I have both on my system; one is just a symlink to the other. My system was fully updated (~amd64) around 8a this morning, right before I left for work. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages
On Saturday 16 June 2007, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages': · Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right, because kde*-meta is supposed to replace, and act as much as possible like the monolithic kde* package. If you don't want all of kdenetwork you don't install kdenetwork-meta, you install individual applications from kdenetwork. Well, but as kdenetwork-meta is a dependency of kde-meta, this solution means, that about 300 packages should be manually listed, just because one package is not wanted. No, because as I covered in my other reply, you can still use kdebase-meta, kdepim-meta, etc. to pull is all the packages from those parts of kde and only list individual applications from the parts you don't want everything from (in your case you should be able to use every kdefoo-meta 'cept for kdenetwork-meta). For your particular use case it's still 30 packages, not 300. Sure, maybe that's still too many. Perhaps a recommends/suggests dependency type (all recommends would be post-dependencies) to allow a package to install even if all of the packages that satisfy one of it's recommend atoms are masked would be better, but you'll have to take that up with the developers responsible for specifying the EAPI levels. Careful how you phrase any suggestion though or you'll just get shouted down by Gentoo isn't Debian replies. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm without initrd
On Saturday 16 June 2007, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] lvm without initrd': I'd like to know which parts of my system need to stay on traditional partitions and which directories can be moved to an lvm if I don't want to use initrd and still be able to boot. Anything 'cept / (and /boot of course) can live on LVM without the need for an initrd. Of course, /lib and /etc can't be on separate block devices from /. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Make portage assume, that a package is installed
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Make portage assume, that a package is installed': Good morning! On my system, I did not install net-dialup/ppp. But I'd now like to install kde-base/kde-meta, which will pull in kde-base/kdenetwork-meta, which will pull in kde-base/kppp and this will finally pull in net-dialup/ppp. Can I now make it somehow so, that I am able to install kdenetwork-meta, but NOT install kppp ppp? So I tried to create the file in /etc/portage. Contents: --($:~)-- cat /etc/portage/package.provided kde-base/kppp-3.5.7 net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4-r8 Obviously, I'm doing something wrong. How do I do it right? As Peter Alfredsen mentioned, overrides for your profile should go in /etc/portage/profile instead of /etc/portage. However, I suggest that a cleaner method would be to not install kde-meta or kdenetwork-meta at all but instead just install the KDE applications that you require. For example: $ grep -i kde /var/db/pkg/world dev-util/kdesvn kde-base/akregator kde-base/kalzium kde-base/kaudiocreator kde-base/kcharselect kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver kde-base/kdeartwork-kwin-styles kde-base/kdeartwork-styles kde-base/kdebase-startkde kde-base/kdm kde-base/kget kde-base/kgpg kde-base/kicker-applets kde-base/klipper kde-base/kmahjongg kde-base/kmail kde-base/kmenuedit kde-base/kmix kde-base/kompare kde-base/konq-plugins kde-base/konqueror-akregator kde-base/konsole kde-base/kontact kde-base/korganizer kde-base/kpager kde-base/kpdf kde-base/kscreensaver kde-base/kstars kde-base/ksysguard kde-base/kwalletmanager kde-base/kwin kde-base/superkaramba kde-misc/kdiff3 kde-misc/filelight -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)': Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I suggest that a cleaner method would be to not install kde-meta or kdenetwork-meta at all but instead just install the KDE applications that you require. Actually, I disagree. This would (obviously *g*) mean, that kde-meta cannot be installed (just as you say). Yes, because the upstream kde includes, in particular, kppp. This means, that a whole shit load of packages would need to be manually installed. And all that, just because you don't want one or two packages? Yep. You get kde-meta or individual kde packages or you get your own ebuild that depends on a number of KDE packages. The Gentoo developers do quite a bit of work just to give us kde-meta. Be glad they don't stick you with the monolithic ebuilds. Nah. IMO that's the wrong way around. IMO the correct way would be to enhance the kde*-meta packages so, that they support USE flags, which allow the user to select what's to be installed. I suppose that's a good idea in the future. Perhaps you should file an enhancement bug. That said, I would prefer kde-meta install all the packages that are part of KDE's upstream packaging by default. Eg. a ppp flag to select that ppp related stuff is to be installed. Or filesharing to disable filesharing related stuf Do you suggest a global flag? If so, what packages do you recommend this flags modify the behavior of? If not, shouldn't it have a less ambiguous name? I mean, what's the advantage of the kde*-meta packages over the kde package, when the kde*-meta require just as much junk, as the kde package does? Hm, really, what's the use of the kde*-meta package anyway? The kde-meta package is meant to replace the kde package. The is no advantage (and without a workable confcache, at least one disadvantage) to running split ebuilds. The advantage of split ebilds is that you have the choice to install only the kde applications you want, by using the individual ebaulds, without dragging in all of kde (which is what old style kde packages pulled in as a dependency.) Are the monolithic ebuilds still available? They need to be purged from the tree ASAP. - Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages': Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] The ppp flag is already known to portage. --($:~/tmp)-- euses -i ppp net-dialup/capi4k-utils:pppd - Installs pppdcapiplugin modules That's pppd, not ppp But maybe dialup might be good. But that's details. Yes, much easier to understand. I mean, what's the advantage of the kde*-meta packages over the kde package, when the kde*-meta require just as much junk, as the kde package does? Hm, really, what's the use of the kde*-meta package anyway? The kde-meta package is meant to replace the kde package. The is no advantage (and without a workable confcache, at least one disadvantage) to running split ebuilds. The advantage of split ebilds is that you have the choice to install only the kde applications you want, by using the individual ebaulds, without dragging in all of kde (which is what old style kde packages pulled in as a dependency.) But with using the kde*-meta package, this advantage doesn't exist. Right, because kde*-meta is supposed to replace, and act as much as possible like the monolithic kde* package. If you don't want all of kdenetwork you don't install kdenetwork-meta, you install individual applications from kdenetwork. Of course, any USE flags available on the old monolithic packages, as well as any use configure options from upstream, should be exposed. Are the monolithic ebuilds still available? Yes. Eg. kdemultimedia-3.5.7.ebuild They need to be purged from the tree ASAP. Have phun with bugzilla :) Or where should something like this actually be brought up? Probably the developer list, I'm sure someone from the kde herd would hear you there. - Your signature is delimited in a wrong way. Odd, I must have accidentally cut one of the -s. Kmail properly uses -- \n as this message and my first in the thread can attest. It does let you edit you signature and the separator, and I must have mistakenly taken advantage of that. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages': Suppose you've got the following use case: Install all of KDE, but leave out PPP stuff. How would you solve that? Intall all the kde*-meta packages except kde-meta (I want to customize my kde install) and kdenetwork-meta (Specifically, I want to adjust network [ppp] support). Install any packages I need but don't have yet via the split ebuilds. Just because kde-meta doesn't satisfy your needs you don't have to forgo using the -meta ebuilds entirely. In your case it will probably be 30 packages you need to install, not 300. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login on Courier-imap server
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 03:38:58 Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote: I have installed Courier-imap on my server and I'm trying to test it, which is not going that well... When I try to telnet in to it I can connect but I can't log in. Am I using the right commands when I test? Yes, but you are using the wrong format. All IMAP commands and responses are prefixed by a 4-character string and a space. This way a command can have multiple responses and multiple commands can be sent before the response for the first is received. (The client matches responses to commands based on matching prefixes.) So, you'll probably want your first line to be something like: login your_username -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] M$ Excel document converter
On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Aleksey Kunitskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] M$ Excel document converter':
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 14:02, Bertram Scharpf wrote:
There's a Ruby package `parseexcel' which seems to work as
far as I can test here.
http://raa.ruby-lang.org/project/parseexcel/
I'm not a ruby programmer :(
I am.
Here's a script that will dump a worksheet as a csv. Save, chmod a+x, and
invoke like name_of_script name_of_excel_file worksheet_number csv_file
(e.g. ./convertxls price_list.xls 0 price_list.csv):
#! /usr/bin/ruby
require 'parseexcel'
wb = Spreadsheet::ParseExcel.parse(ARGV.shift)
ws = workbook.worksheet(ARGV.shift.to_i)
ws.each { |row|
puts row.collect { |cell|
'' + cell.to_s.gsub(//, '') + ''
}.join(',')
}
Clearly, all the heavy lifting is done by that library, which you will need
to run this script.
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Re: [gentoo-user] M$ Excel document converter
On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Aleksey Kunitskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] M$ Excel document converter': On Wednesday 13 June 2007 15:04, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: I am. Here's a script that will dump a worksheet as a csv: #! /usr/bin/ruby This script doesn't work for me :( Bogus. :( Well, try Bertram's suggestion. I just wrote the script on the fly without testing it. I'll install parseexcel and see what I did wrong and post a script that works for me later. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Double network cards
On Monday 11 June 2007, dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Double network cards': Marco Calviani pisze: Hi list, i would like some technical advice concerning the possibility of mounting two network devices on the same desktop computer. One network card (which is binded to a fixed IP) allows me to allow the machine to be visible on the public network, while the second one (faster, the one i've installed now) is used to work. Hello If You are going to use both devices to access the same address space then afaik it is not possible. I think it could be done with static routing, but You would require properly configured router. Which (surprise!) is the same thing as a properly configured linux box. :P Basically, you simply need to make sure you configure routing for the internet at large correctly. This will generally involve some sort of source-based routing and/or some custom dhclient scripts and/or assigning proper metrics to your routes and telling the kernel how to use those metrics when there are multiple routes to a single IP. We have two networks here at the house: the cable internet (9Mbps/1Mbps, but those speeds can't be counted on, dynamic IP) and the DSL (1.5Mbps/512Kbps, I think, block of static IPs). I've got two NICs so I'm on both of them. Virtually all traffic uses the cable connection (http requests, bittorrent, etc.), but the DSL connection is available for traffic (ssh, local mail server [on the same subnet], etc.). Here's the relevant parts of my setup: /etc/conf.d/net: config_eth0=( dhcp ) modules_eth0=( pump ) pump_eth0= config_eth1=( 69.154.123.205/29 brd 69.154.123.207 ) modules_eth1=( !plug ) /etc/iproute2/rt_tables: 127 dsl /etc/conf.d/local.start: sbr-init /usr/local/sbin/sbr-init: #!/bin/bash # Clear tables ip route flush table dsl 2- # Fill tables ip route add 69.154.123.200/29 dev eth1 table dsl ip route add 0.0.0.0/0 via 69.154.123.206 table dsl # Reset rules ip rule del pref 16000 from 69.154.123.205 2- # Set rules ip rule add pref 16000 from 69.154.123.205 table dsl -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD 2.4 to DVD5
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 00:19:20 Nicola Degl'Innocenti wrote: I have bought a new camcorder with minidvd, and i need to convert this mini dvd to the standard video dvd (4.7Gb) preferibly without addictional compression and in a simply way :-) Can you read the mini-dvds in your computer's DVD drive? If so, you just need to copy the data to a new disk -- k3b should be able to do this if you have enough free space in your temporary directory. You can do it in two (or three) steps as well, if you want or need to store the image on your HD. You'll rip the content with cp, dd, dvdbackup, or k3b. This will either create an iso or directory; you can loopback mount the iso to get a directory or use genisoimage to get an iso from the directory. Finally burn the iso/directory using growisofs or k3b. If not, the first thing is you need to find a library/program that can read the A/V off the mini-dvd. For that task, I can provide no aid. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?
On Sunday 10 June 2007, Karl Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?': Color is pretty ;) lol. It makes things interesting! I agree however that there might need to be some way to turn it off easily. It should also be turned off by default for anything that's not a terminal. or a terminal whose termcap/terminfo/etc. doesn't support the ANSI color feature. One of the most annoying things I've ever seen is ANSI escape codes in emails and/or log files. Gentoo is fairly good about that now, but I'm still having problem with RoR misbehaving in this way. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?
On Sunday 10 June 2007, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?': I don't care how you label it, white-on-black is nasty. ;) I feel the same way about black-on-white terminals. Acually, I'd prefer black-on-white for everything but I haven't found a good KDE theme for that yet. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?
On Sunday 10 June 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FeatureRequest Was: Re: Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?': Acually, I'd prefer black-on-white I meant white-on-black. Dark backgrounds are just easier on my eyes. for everything but I haven't found a good KDE theme for that yet. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[OT] Ubuntu isn't the devil (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid)
On Friday 08 June 2007, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid': On Samstag, 9. Juni 2007, b.n. wrote: Kent Fredric ha scritto: On 6/8/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ( probably releated to it being a generally harder distro to use that *cough* ewwbuntu *cough* unlinspired *cough* or *cough* deadrat *cough* ) OT: Ubuntu distros (Kubuntu, expecially) are really, really shiny and slick pieces of software. I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 at work and it's the more polished, ready-to-go, easy to use Linux distro I've ever seen. I use Gentoo on my home desktop for various reasons and because I have different needs, but the Linux community has only to learn from the Ubuntus. what to learn? How to make kcontrol worse? I think many find ksystemsettings to be better a better interface than kcontrol. I don't, so I just use kcontrol. It is a little stupid that they don't install the desktop icon for it, but it's trivial to fix. The slowest boot of all times? My Gentoo boots more slowly, but that's probably related to the large delay mounting a 3TiB reiserfs. Ubuntu can also be very quick to boot *if* all files read on startup fit into system ram throughout the startup sequence, on my laptop this isn't the case, so my booting is somewhat delayed. A braindead installer? How exactly is it braindead? I've used it multiple times and while it's error handling could be better, it's allowed me to do all the setup I need before the install starts and generally gets me run-and-running much faster and Gentoo. A patched-to-death kpdf? Yeah, ubuntu patches KDE left and right and it's a bit annoying, especially when they reduce usability for no good reason. E.g. the search toolbar forces the cursor to the end of it's contents from time to time, and doesn't properly submit searches with parenthesis in them -- both issues make the search bar on Gentoo much better. Yes, there is something to learn from the ubuntus. Like: don't make their mistakes. Their mistakes made them the most popular linux distribution in a incredibly small amount of time. Their mistakes continue to drive user and developers toward the project in flocks. Their mistakes lead to Dell shipping home systems with Ubuntu pre-installed. I love Gentoo. I love Debian. I still think Ubuntu does some things better and some things worse. On my laptop, I'd prefer not to configure anything -- and Ubuntu provides a usable system with no hassles. Servers @ work -- Debian. Desktop @ home -- Gentoo. I don't think I'd change any of them. Or: there is a difference between userfriendly and made for idiots. Ubuntu being neither. ;) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing primary monitor on dual-monitor X.org setup
On Wednesday 06 June 2007, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Changing primary monitor on dual-monitor X.org setup': On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:42:59 +0300 Aleksey Kunitskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Modes 1280x1024 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Card1 MonitorMonitor1 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Modes 1280x1024 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Just switch the Monitor lines here, and switch the plugs. Or, just switch the Device lines. Each device is a single DVI port (at least on my NVidia setup). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
