Re: [gentoo-user] Need help getting portage to email me emerge logs using ssmtp...

2011-12-16 Thread Indi
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 04:40:01PM +0100, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Hope someone has an idea... You could try esmtp; Always seems to work for me when the others fail. Haven't tried what you're pursuing, but surely it can be made to work fairly easily... -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤

Re: [gentoo-user] can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-12 Thread Indi
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 01:10:02AM +0100, James Broadhead wrote: > On 12 December 2011 23:52, Indi wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 03:40:02PM +0100, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >>    On Dec 10, 2011 8:50 PM, "LinuxIsOne" <[1]linuxis...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-12 Thread Indi
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 03:40:02PM +0100, Pandu Poluan wrote: >On Dec 10, 2011 8:50 PM, "LinuxIsOne" <[1]linuxis...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >- >8 snip > > > > > I have come to conclusion that almost all Linux work almost in the > > same way since they have the same kernel, however,

Re: [gentoo-user] KDEPIM-4.7.3 hits the stable tree ... brrrrr!

2011-12-09 Thread Indi
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 09:00:02PM +0100, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 08 Dec 2011 14:51:52 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 06:47:22AM +, Mick wrote: > > > > > > To me it seems we Gentooians don’t care much about social sharing, semantic > > desktops or data associations. W

Re: [gentoo-user] Lynx, Links, or Elinks?

2011-12-09 Thread Indi
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 01:40:01PM +0100, Lavender wrote: > At 2011-12-09 19:38:06,"Pandu Poluan" wrote: > >As the subject says: Which text browser do you recommend? > > > >( I just want to read some documentations in HTML. ) > > > I'm using lynx, I feel it is great ! Lynx is small but efficient,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Indi
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 12:40:01AM +0100, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2011-12-06, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:15:31AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:54:22 -0500, LinuxIsOne wrote: > >> > >> > But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Indi
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:00:02PM +0100, LinuxIsOne wrote: > > I guess, if Gentoo is required to be learned first and that's why it > is not so popular like Ubuntu and lag far behind than it. When I asked > a stranger do you know about Computers? He says, no but I know what it > is. Then I asked

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Indi
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:00:03PM +0100, LinuxIsOne wrote: > > However, Getoo could be great (I really don't know) but installing > Ubuntu is working like a charm (I still don't know anything in Linux!) > But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for > beginners! It is typi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-05 Thread Indi
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:40:03PM +0100, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, LinuxIsOne wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Indi wrote: > > > >> In fact, I like gentoo and FreeBSD best for low-spoec hardware. > > > > What does low-s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 03:40:01PM +0100, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > For the OP, a few posters have mentioned that under gentoo, every > > thing is compiled from scratch, but it was not made clear that it > > happens again and again at most upda

Re: Emerge ignoring make.conf entries [was Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch]

2011-12-03 Thread Indi
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 05:20:01PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:37:51 -0500, Indi wrote: > > > > that is not the verbose flag, but silent-build. > > > > Hmm, I always thought the "-v" was the verbose switch, and that it > > s

Emerge ignoring make.conf entries [was Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch]

2011-12-03 Thread Indi
ted.. On an entirely other subject, I see the mail2news gateway still breaks threads -- what, a year after I first pointed it out? *sigh* Ok, my apologies for using it, but really I just cannot justify the ratio of 24k recieved emails to one sent, so I really have to use the usenet group to re

[gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

2011-12-03 Thread Indi
Howdy y'all, About a month or so ago I did an update which seems to have caused portage to lose the ability to work verbosely. Ever since it looks like this: idd@gh:[~]9:07:23 $ sudo emerge -vauND adobe-flash These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... d

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-04 Thread Indi
he opposite for me. If only I could have a scriptable interface for "real life" everything would be perfect -- just imagine... indi@real_life$ feed cat && make tea --serve in_bed -- caveat utilitor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde4: no hardware info without sys-apps/hal

2011-10-01 Thread Indi
On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 07:06:20AM -0400, Andrey Moshbear wrote: > > Found the problem: setuid bit was missing; chmod 4711 did the trick > (verified via solid-hardware list). > Time to logout and login and see if that was all. > You're very courageous, posting that you found the solution before

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT but interesting nonetheless...

2011-09-29 Thread Indi
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 02:44:06PM +, James wrote: > > The kernel gyrations are all really about something much more important. > *MONEY* > > ...Commercial distros like Apple's offering are making > billions. OS X is not a linux distribution. It uses the xnu kernel, which fuses elements of

Re: [gentoo-user] Nepomuk is eating my disk space

2011-09-26 Thread Indi
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 03:18:56AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: >Hello list, > >My /home partition is 15GB, and the other day KDE warned me it was down >to 1% free. I found that >.kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/soprano-v >irtuoso.db > >was occ

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Indi
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:47:18 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > James Broadhead wrote: > > > On 26 September 2011 03:19, Paul Hartman > > wrote: > > > Or skip the net config/init scripts stuff and just use something > > > like wicd. > > > > Getting a manager to write your wpa_supplicant.c

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Indi
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 06:46:21PM -0400, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: > On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:15 -0500, Dale wrote: > > So buy a mobo without it or that can disable it. Got it. It'll be a > > good while before I buy a new mobo tho. I'm sure they will have a > > nice > > fix by then but this is

Re: [gentoo-user] WPA2 connection configuration?

2011-09-26 Thread Indi
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 07:08:05AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >Not to belittle non-power users, most everything can be done by putting >some more intelligence into the init.d scripts. > >Of course, this should be implemented by Gentoo itself. I'll spelunk in >the relevant script

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Should I be worried that I won't be able to dual boot in Gentoo?

2011-09-26 Thread Indi
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:56:20 +0530 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > On Mon 26 Sep 2011 08:51:17 PM IST, James Broadhead wrote: > > On 26 September 2011 16:01, Mick wrote: > >> I don't know if you have seen this. Given that we're moving into > >> UEFI boot what are the workarounds to compensate for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Indi
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:43:50 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 19:25:28 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: > > On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael > > > Schreckenbauer: > > > > O

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-18 Thread Indi
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:55:01 +0200 pk wrote: > Xmms, I believe it's called. And it's been working fine for quite a > while (I've actually have never encountered a bug with Audacious), for > me. Now, when I upgraded to 2.4.x dbus was forced on me (well, that > and Xfce4)... I'm used to Audacious

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't find reiser4 patch for kernel-2.6.39

2011-07-19 Thread Indi
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 04:38:26PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Tuesday 19 July 2011 07:13:24 Indi wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:37:09 +0200 > > > > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > On Tuesday 19 July 2011 06:27:52 Indi wrote: > > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't find reiser4 patch for kernel-2.6.39

2011-07-19 Thread Indi
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:37:09 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Tuesday 19 July 2011 06:27:52 Indi wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:50:19 +0200 > > > > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > On Monday 18 July 2011 14:30:28 Stroller wrote: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't find reiser4 patch for kernel-2.6.39

2011-07-19 Thread Indi
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:50:19 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Monday 18 July 2011 14:30:28 Stroller wrote: > > On 18 July 2011, at 12:18, Mick wrote: > > > Is it a matter of waiting a bit longer? > > > > Yes, I think he'll be eligible for parole beginning 2023. > > please refrain yourself

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Indi
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 23 June 2011 22:47:54 Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: > > On Thursday 23 June 2011 20:54:03 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > I was seriously considering importing a single seater heli kit, > > > they are classed as ultralights

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-23 Thread Indi
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 02:10:34PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > I saw a guy on a TV interview once. He said the only way a helicopter > can fly is by brute force. A airplane wants to fly but a helicopter > just wants to crash. He said that can be proven by taking your hands > off the controls. Do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-23 Thread Indi
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 08:06:09AM -0400, Todd Goodman wrote: > * Indi [110622 18:59]: > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 04:30:01PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > > Then again, I don't fly either. I have told people that if they > > > see me on a plane, close the lid on my cof

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Indi
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 04:30:01PM -0500, Dale wrote: > Then again, I don't fly either. I have told people that if they > see me on a plane, close the lid on my coffin. That's the only > way I would get on a plane. > You haven't lived until you've been up in a small, underpowered ultralight

Re: [gentoo-user] kdepim-4.6.0 woes

2011-06-22 Thread Indi
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 05:37:49PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 22 June 2011 11:23:15 Indi did opine thusly: > > > > Ha, so it's true then: using my blackberry as a PDA (sync'd to > > google calendar) and not bothering with that stuff on my compu

Re: [gentoo-user] kdepim-4.6.0 woes

2011-06-22 Thread Indi
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 04:36:14PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 22 June 2011 14:16:05 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > A while ago I eventually got my contacts back. I forget the actual > > cause now, but I strongly suspect it involved tinkering with mysql, > > and this may have broken in t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Indi
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 06:18:49AM -0500, Dale wrote: > > To think people wonder why my USE line is so big. I keep having to add > stuff when portage pukes but portage never tells me when one has fell > off the reservation and needs to be removed. < sighs > Over the years, > it adds up. > I

Re: [gentoo-user] Use split to break up a 10GB file binary?

2011-06-21 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 05:28:05PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Indi wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:25:57AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> Hi, > >>    Is split an appropriate program to use to break a single 10GB file > >&

Re: [gentoo-user] Use split to break up a 10GB file binary?

2011-06-20 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:25:57AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, >Is split an appropriate program to use to break a single 10GB file > into 100 100MB files to transfer over the net using rsync, and then > use cat to reassemble? > >Is there some better way to do this? > Just using rsync

Re: [gentoo-user] tethering an htc incredible

2011-06-19 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 06:25:00AM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Sat, Jun 18 2011, David Abbott wrote: > > > If you open up wicd => Preferences => General Settings => Wired > > interface the defaultis eth0. > > That is what I have. Are you suggesting I should change it to usb0? > > > I did

Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems

2011-06-14 Thread Indi
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 07:18:02AM +, JDM wrote: > Have only tried CONFIG_HID_ROCCAT but this did not help. Will give the others > a go. > > Not quite sure why older kernels would recognise keyboard but .39 kernel does > not and .38 I have issues with when plugging in usb stick. Are the kern

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-12 Thread Indi
; > including the one that pulls messages from news.eternal-september.org. > > So I was off the air for about 3½ hours today. > > I'm using Kmail with bog-standard threading and aggregation, and this > message is shown as a reply, not to Dale but to Indi; the message that

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 & --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Indi
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:10:25AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > sys-apps/less > selected: 443 >protected: none > omitted: none > > > Changelog doesn't say much about this. I have nano, vim, more and less > installed and vim is in world. I really don't feel like adding the oth

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:32:11PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo. > > Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days, > unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs > developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than > I ca

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:01:35 + (UTC) James wrote: > Indi gmail.com> writes: > > > > Sadly, a lot of people (including developers) seem to think that > > people either see or are blind and that's it. I see plenty well > > enough for most things that need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 07:19:40PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > > Not every tool is for every user or every need. > If there a better tool to use then why bother with something less. > I'm not a thunderbird fanboy so i can accept that t-bird has its > limitations and its problems and that it i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:16:12AM -0700, Bill Longman wrote: > On 06/06/2011 09:52 AM, Indi wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 09:42:01AM -0700, kashani wrote: > >> > >> I'd like to point out that the PEBCAK was on your end. > >> > > > &

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:50:34PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > > > Thunderbird doesn't use system xulrunner. > I use mail-client/thunderbird-3.1.10 and xulrunner-5.0_beta2 for firefox. > Thanks for the info. What matters though is that it is very hard to configure properly for people who

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 09:42:01AM -0700, kashani wrote: > > I'd like to point out that the PEBCAK was on your end. > Sorry, no. And you just used your one shot at trolling me. Do it again and it's the bozo bin for you. -- klaatu virada nicto

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 12:38:08PM -0400, Indi wrote: > > xulrunner is 2.0.1-r1i > Should say "2.0.1-r1", sorry. -- klaatu virada nicto

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:34:34PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 06.06.2011 17:55, schrieb Indi: > > > Uh, no. I will decide what's "too big to be usable", not the software, > > thank you. > > It is not really the software that decides that. Thunderb

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 05:28:14PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 06.06.2011 17:18, schrieb Indi: > > > Maybe we should also both remember that I *am* running ~x86? > > :) > > That should make now difference, my girlfriend uses ~x86 on her laptop > and there th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:28:14 +0200 Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 06.06.2011 17:18, schrieb Indi: > > > Maybe we should also both remember that I *am* running ~x86? > > :) > > That should make now difference, my girlfriend uses ~x86 on her laptop > and there thunde

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:07:28 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2011-06-06 10:48 AM, Indi wrote: > > At one point it was far more specific with a number of individual > > fonts listed, not one of them worked. > > Did you make the change while Thunderbird was running? > No.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:13:39 +0200 Sebastian Beßler wrote: > As an extension of my previous mail there is although the addon > stylish that can be used to set all that without the need to restart > thunderbird for every change. > > https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/stylish/ > Wow

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:58:55 +0200 Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 06.06.2011 16:48, schrieb Indi: > > > Very first thing I tried after realizing they stupidly didn't allow > > it in the config options was > > > > /* Global UI font */ > > * { font

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 04:33:20PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 06.06.2011 16:24, schrieb Indi: > > > If you (or if anyone using it *on* *linux*) manage(s) to double the > > size of the default fonts in the folder list and message list I'll > > listen, >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 09:37:26AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2011-06-06 8:44 AM, Indi wrote: > > You need to realize you're giving advice about the windows version of > > thunderbird. IOW you can stop now! > > As I said, there is nothing indicating that userChrome

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 03:47:33PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 06.06.2011 14:44, schrieb Indi: > > > > You need to realize you're giving advice about the windows version of > > thunderbird. IOW you can stop now! > > I use Thunderbird here runnung o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 02:23:06PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 13:32 on Monday 06 June 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > > tbird is a Moz product. Rendering stuff on screen is almost everything > > > that they do ... everything el

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 02:38:17PM +0200, enno+gen...@groeper-berlin.de wrote: > > As I'm not affected I don't know about any issues for the visually impaired. > Sadly, a lot of people (including developers) seem to think that people either see or are blind and that's it. I see plenty well enou

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
You need to realize you're giving advice about the windows version of thunderbird. IOW you can stop now! Thank you. :) -- klaatu virada nicto

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:13:31AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > As to your last - yes, I'm on Windows (as I stated before) - but nothing > says this hack only works on Windows... > It doesn't work in linux. It was the first thing I tried. ***[Snip all the rest of the advice that doesn't work in l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 01:22:34PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 12:56 on Monday 06 June 2011, Tanstaafl did > opine thusly: > > > On 2011-06-06 6:34 AM, Indi wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:27:48AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:56:25AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Easily fixable... Tools > Options > Display > Formatting > Oh wait a minute, *NOW* I see! You're not using what I tested at all -- either you're in windows or you're using something other than thunderbird 3. Sorry, we don't do wind

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 01:16:27PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 12:34 on Monday 06 June 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:27:48AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Believe it or not you are supposed to "

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:56:25AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2011-06-06 6:34 AM, Indi wrote: > > > > After much googling the conclusion is many many people are desperately > > unhappy about the fonts in tbrd and incredibly, it ain't fixable! > > Hard-code

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 07:01:47AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2011-06-05 11:44 PM, Indi wrote: > > I see what you mean about the default config, LOL. > > Been trying to change the font sizes used for the message list and > > folder pane, but no success yet. Makes it a bit h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:27:48AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Believe it or not you are supposed to "make invisible" all the junk the app > created. > > Well, once you get some of the amazingly bone-headed defaults corrected tbird is pretty nice -- for people with eagle eyes who don't ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On 06/05/2011 11:51 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 06/04/2011 02:59 PM, Indi wrote: >> Maybe I'll put the next person who complains about evolution on >> thunderbird and see how they do with it... > I absolutely love Thunderbird, but with one caveat... > > I love it becau

[gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird "fixed" folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:07:24PM -0400, Indi wrote: > So, following several suggestions I emerge thunderbird for > testing, and the first thing I noticed is it does what people > insist it doesn't do: creates redundant Trash and Drafts folders, > both locally and (cardinal s

[gentoo-user] thunderbird "fixed" folders?

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
So, following several suggestions I emerge thunderbird for testing, and the first thing I noticed is it does what people insist it doesn't do: creates redundant Trash and Drafts folders, both locally and (cardinal sin) on the remote server! So now in mutt there are all these redundant mail folde

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 10:16:01PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 21:36 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > > > This post was done that way, so let me know. > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:17:53PM +0100, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:35:52 Indi wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:20:01PM +0200, Mick wrote: > > > The Usenet headers do not show any X-Original-References: in your > > > message, at least not in my K

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:20:01PM +0200, Mick wrote: > > The Usenet headers do not show any X-Original-References: in your message, at > least not in my Knode. > They do, but apparently knode isn't showing you all headers. > The email headers also do not show any X-Original-References: at leas

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 03:11:04PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 14:44 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > Yes, probably I'm unlikely to do it... > > Never did actually switch from testing to stable, it's always

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:31:21PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 13:57 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:23:50PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 13:17 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4 > > might be my choices, as they can be extremely ple

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 12:41:42PM +0100, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 12:17:08 Indi wrote: > > > > If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4 > > might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look > > at. Heh, reminds me of my ex

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > A victim of "release early, release often"? :-) > Yes, definitely. One of these days I'll switch back to stable, just haven't been willing to bite that bullet quite yet. At least it's helped me temper my obsessive tendencies a

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 12:40:29PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > So here's one thing that MacOS is very good at: text searches. I have to > archive old mails in off-line tbz2 to retain some sanity, my colleagues on > Macs don't. Their mail store goes somewhere (we don't know where, not having

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:01:22PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Sunday 05 June 2011 06:43:37 Indi wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did > opine > thusly: > > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > > > Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Ind

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 04:35:46PM -0700, walt wrote: > > Thunderbird is my every-day news and email client and I don't switch because > it "just works" for me. > Oh that reminds me, one of the annoyances which seems to be common among GUI MUAs is they create a fixed set of IMAP "folders" which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:58:12AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Saturday 04 June 2011 23:53:50 Mick wrote: > > > > > ... as mud! > > > > This reply of yours (unlike your previous) is shown as a new thread in > > Knode, not as a threaded reply to Dale's message. :@ > > > > PS. I'm re

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 06:37:31PM -0500, Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 23:38:09 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:09:28 +0100, Stroller wrote: > >> > >>> My client wraps lines at a perfectly sensible length. > >>> > >>> http://linux.stroller.uk.e

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:42:40PM +0100, Mick wrote: > > I have looked at mutt some time ago, but then I would also need to install > fetchmail and smtp and what not, instead of a single desktop application. > Actually you can build mutt with the smtp, imap, and pop flags and use mutt's built-

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:57:44PM -0500, Dale wrote: > David W Noon wrote: > > Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the > > breakage. > > > > A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of > > all message posted

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:09:28PM +0100, Stroller wrote: > > You know, Finder is not as bad as you would imagine. > I don't have to imagine. Bought my first Mac (an SE) in 1987, and my last in 2009. The '87 SE still works, the 2009 mini no longer does and was a buggy piece o' crap all its life

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi: > > > Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive > > at times when dealing with IMAP. > > I use Thunderbird and IMAP for 3 years now and

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 10:19:51PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > I have a slightly adverse general opinion about the mail > client called 'mutt'. I am not saying that this is the fault of its devs nor > do I suggesst that there is anything wrong with its users. > > Pine is slightly l

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:38:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote: > > On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > >> Apparently, though unproven, at

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:59:52AM -0700, kashani wrote: > On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did > >> opine > >> thusly

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 02:37:32PM -0400, CJoeB wrote: > On 06/04/11 14:17, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 06/04/2011 08:54 PM, CJoeB wrote: > >> Hi all. > >> > >> Okay, colour me "so stupid", but I want to add some TrueType fonts to > >> KDE and I can't figure out how to do it. In my previous KD

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did > opine > thusly: > > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote: > > > I suspected it was whatever device was be

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 06:47:34PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 13:35 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did > opine > thusly: > > > You say OS X is "good enough" > > I say you've got some mighty low standards. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:50:03PM +0200, Indi wrote: > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > > > > I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the > > server changes the headers of the mails. > > > > That

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:38:38AM -0400, Indi wrote: > > Well I could be wrong but do believe the MUA wll write the Xref or > References headers according to what the server has on the original > message. If the original header info exists anywhere in the message sent > by the ma

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > > That is a example of Indi's headers when he was using usenet > > References: > > > > Can't believe I never noticed that Bastard Operator From Hell reference in those headers, lol... -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > > I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the > server changes the headers of the mails. > > That is a example of Indi's headers when he was using usenet > > References: > > > > > That is what his

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote: > > I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like top > posting. Some people have to top post because the device they are using > won't let them reply any other way. > > I just wonder if there is some setting that could b

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Dale wrote: > Indi wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote: > > > >> I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with > >> Indi to tho. > >> > >> Thi

Re: [gentoo-user] sntp error in rc.log post OpenRC migration

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:47:20AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > Ok, finally took the plunge, and as everyone else said it was pretty > much anti-climactic... > > However, I'm getting the following error when starting sntp that I > wasn't before in rc.log: > > * Setting clock via the NTP client 'snt

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote: > > I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with > Indi to tho. > > This thread is now broken up into a few discussions as well. No clue > what order things are supposed to be in so ju

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