On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:
I wonder if there's a half-way possibility, of having a small
subset of the documentation shipped with GIMP, or easily
downloaded? And still have the full manual kept separate.
I actually like the idea. IF we could have
On 10/26/2009 01:42 PM, g...@catking.net wrote:
Maybe you'd see it better if the checkbox (AHH shoot this man , he said
the C word!!) was labelled remember this choice.
You can't presume what the correct answer is and impose it on everyone
since the answer depends on the user himself and
Martin Nordholts wrote:
On 10/25/2009 11:35 PM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
If you think the dialogue is nagging, it is better to make a checkbox
do not show this again, show online help directly. AND, maybe,
never show the same dialogue in the same session.
It won't nag me less just because I
Martin Nordholts wrote:
On 10/26/2009 01:42 PM, g...@catking.net wrote:
Maybe you'd see it better if the checkbox (AHH shoot this man , he said
the C word!!) was labelled remember this choice.
You can't presume what the correct answer is and impose it on everyone
since the answer depends on
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
IMO the real solution is to shop documentation with GIMP.
Ship, that is :)
Alexandre
YES !!
And anyway label the gimp help as additional packadge is pure nonsense:
for complex graphic software as Gimp the help is not something
On 10/25/2009 04:13 PM, photocomix wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
IMO the real solution is to shop documentation with GIMP.
Ship, that is :)
Alexandre
YES !!
I agree, distributing documentation separately for a program
like GIMP never made much sense
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 16:19 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote:
On 10/25/2009 04:13 PM, photocomix wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
IMO the real solution is to shop documentation with GIMP.
Ship, that is :)
Alexandre
YES !!
I agree, distributing
Sven Neumann wrote:
IMO you are making a problem here that does not any longer exist. Not
having a release of the user manual for 2.6 was indeed a problem, but
that has finally been solved recently. Instead of complaining we should
thank the GIMP documentation team for their hard work. And we
On 10/25/2009 05:26 PM, Sven Neumann wrote:
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 16:19 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote:
On 10/25/2009 04:13 PM, photocomix wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
IMO the real solution is to shop documentation with GIMP.
Ship, that is :)
Ni,
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 17:46 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote:
Keeping the documentation online is in many ways a good idea.
There is one thing we could do better though. Right now
when pressing F1 without a locally installed copy of the
manual there is a dialog box that says you don't have
On 10/25/2009 08:13 PM, Sven Neumann wrote:
We only show this dialog once. If you confirm that you want to use the
online version, then you won't see that dialog again. I don't think
that's too bad. The dialog makes it clear what's happening and it serves
as a hint that the manual can also be
On Sunday 25 October 2009 21:21:45 Martin Nordholts wrote:
If the user presses F1 he is interested in getting help, not being
informed that the information he will be reading is not locally
installed.
True.
The possibility to install the manual locally becomes
interesting if there is no
On 10/25/09, Martin Nordholts wrote:
My reply was a bit hasty and I apologize. Thanks to the
documentation team and Jernej for their hard work.
I don't think your reply was hasty :) Having documentation available
at once is actually expected.
Provided the documentation project is a separate
On 2009-10-25, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote:
Keeping the documentation online is in many ways a good idea.
A bad idea for people who are most of the time on the road without
online access...
There is one thing we could do better though. Right now
when pressing F1 without a locally
On 10/25/2009 11:35 PM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
If you think the dialogue is nagging, it is better to make a checkbox
do not show this again, show online help directly. AND, maybe,
never show the same dialogue in the same session.
It won't nag me less just because I can dismiss it for the
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 22:30 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
[...]
Provided the documentation project is a separate one indeed, I see two
solutions:
1. Make it downloadable during installation, like Michael suggests.
2. Leave .exe files where they are now, but keep amount of clicks to
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Sven Neumann wrote:
This is a very sad situation. Note that most of users won't be able
to install GIMP documentation locally [*], and in today's state of
mobility, people are very often without Internet access...
[*] Try to understand how to get GIMP docs
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
IMO the real solution is to shop documentation with GIMP.
Ship, that is :)
Alexandre
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On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 00:41 +, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
This is a very sad situation. Note that most of users won't be able
to install GIMP documentation locally [*], and in today's state of
mobility, people are very often without Internet access...
[*] Try to understand how to get
On 2009-10-21, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote:
This is a very sad situation. Note that most of users won't be able
to install GIMP documentation locally [*], and in today's state of
mobility, people are very often without Internet access...
[*] Try to understand how to get GIMP docs
On 2009-10-02, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote:
0) Remove Press F1 to view manual from tooltips unless GIMP knows
that a manual is present, and knows to which page to jump.
Since GIMP offers to read the manual online, the manual is always
present. Or rather, it becomes rather
On 2009-10-02, peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net wrote:
To make a long story short: 3 stages is, of course, not enough -
especially with applications which target SIMULTANEOUSLY professionals
and first-time-Linux-users.
I understand first-time-Linux-users as really newby linux desktop
users,
[Repost after a list resurrection]
As far as I understand, one of the principal usability features is
a progressive escalation of help. One does not want to drink from a
fire hydrant - unless any other option is exhausted. One always wants
as little help as possible - as far as it
Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
To make a long story short: 3 stages is, of course, not enough -
especially with applications which target SIMULTANEOUSLY professionals
and first-time-Linux-users.
I understand first-time-Linux-users as really newby linux desktop
users, not beginner-GIMP-users (we have
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 06:22 +, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
0) Remove Press F1 to view manual from tooltips unless GIMP knows
that a manual is present, and knows to which page to jump.
Since GIMP offers to read the manual online, the manual is always
present. Or rather, it becomes rather
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