Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-07-12 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:04:59 +0100, David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an experiment at work I decided to work on just the one image when saving for web and found that I really don't need to do the spot comparisons between images after all. What's more important is the ability to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-07-12 Thread peter sikking
David, first of all thanks for taking the time to give us input. There is one phrase here that I am not sure how to interpret: I'm not entirely sure how I'd go about designing a website in gimp to deal with this problem The designing a website in gimp sounds scary to me because I then

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-07-11 Thread David Marrs
peter sikking wrote: interesting to see Compare compressed images against original, would it be enough to see the compressed one and balance that against the size and what your customer expects? As an experiment at work I decided to work on just the one image when saving for web and found

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-27 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 19:11 +0200, peter sikking wrote: Liam, Please don't forget other users :-) I routinely have a selection that's, say, 10,000 pixels by roughly 40 pixels. This might not be a usual case for Web graphics... an aspect ratio of 1000 to 4. cool. at what zoom level(s)

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-27 Thread David Marrs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither is chosing the appropriate format specific the web so save for the web concept is misleading. It should be select best compression format or so. I have no argument with this. If we can do away with a separate dialogue altogether, so much the better. It

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-26 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 01:30 +0200, peter sikking wrote: [...] actually right now I am specifying how the selection tools should deal with long, very narrow selections, with the web guys in mind. Please don't forget other users :-) I routinely have a selection that's, say, 10,000 pixels by

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-26 Thread peter sikking
Liam, actually right now I am specifying how the selection tools should deal with long, very narrow selections, with the web guys in mind. Please don't forget other users :-) I routinely have a selection that's, say, 10,000 pixels by roughly 40 pixels. This might not be a usual case for

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-26 Thread Clarence Risher
On 6/26/07, peter sikking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't forget other users :-) I routinely have a selection that's, say, 10,000 pixels by roughly 40 pixels. This might not be a usual case for Web graphics... an aspect ratio of 1000 to 4. cool. at what zoom level(s) do you

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-26 Thread David Marrs
Akkana Peck wrote: I might have misunderstood this step (I definitely don't follow the comment about PS not letting you edit -- maybe that's a PS issue) but it sounds like if you did a Paste as New in gimp, you wouldn't need to create a new canvas or figure out any dimensions. Oh yeah. Thanks

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-26 Thread David Marrs
peter sikking wrote: interesting to see Compare compressed images against original, would it be enough to see the compressed one and balance that against the size and what your customer expects? I usually do comparisons when I'm trying to get the best image quality out of jpegs. There seems to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-25 Thread damianzalewski
gcn I agree that the tools should aimed towards top end users not splicing. gcn Gimp's declared aim is to provide tools for creating elements for web gcn design not page layout. Does it really mean I have to use separate program to make few cuts. And how can I make web page without slicing ?

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-25 Thread gg
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:52:53 +0200, David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With a save *selection* for web feature, steps 3) and 4) could probably be omitted altogether for most of the time. well save for web is a plugin but it probably could be extended to save a selection. Sounds like a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-25 Thread peter sikking
David wrote: peter sikking wrote: can you tell me what you mean with manual work needs to be done? that can help us with our work. Well the most common case is simply selecting a slither of an area to be tiled as a background image. yep, we expect this kind of stuff to be your daily

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-25 Thread Akkana Peck
David Marrs writes: 4) Open new canvas. PS automatically populates the canvas dimensions with those of the paste buffer so this operation isn't as cumbersome as it would be in Gimp, but really it wouldn't be required at all if PS allowed you to edit an image during the next stage. I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-24 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On 6/22/07, Nemes Ioan Sorin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the correct behavior ( exporting layout for web ) can be seen on Macromedia / Adobe Fireworks. Let say Firefox 8 ( I dont try yet CS version ). They had a proven model that already got the general acceptance. If some similar model (

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-24 Thread David Marrs
peter sikking wrote: can you tell me what you mean with manual work needs to be done? that can help us with our work. Well the most common case is simply selecting a slither of an area to be tiled as a background image. Sometimes you have to hide a foreground layer before making the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-22 Thread peter sikking
David, peter sikking wrote: We do imagine that a set of website graphics pieces gets _produced_ on a single canvas, and when everything works well together graphically, with a single 'cutting mask' all pieces are cut out and saved in the right web format, in a single action. I don't see

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-06-21 Thread David Marrs
peter sikking wrote: We do imagine that a set of website graphics pieces gets _produced_ on a single canvas, and when everything works well together graphically, with a single 'cutting mask' all pieces are cut out and saved in the right web format, in a single action. I don't see how this

Re: [Gimp-developer] Webdesign is wrong

2007-05-26 Thread peter sikking
damianzalewski wrote: What gimp is not: not a web page mock-up application I brought up web mock-ups, but we realised that seriously supporting this would mean introducing a ton of functionality; it is better done in a specialised application I really don't understand what tons of