Re: [Gimp-developer] Please fix Color and/or Value transfer mode

2010-07-31 Thread Charlie De
From Alexandre: There are many ways to make yourself useful for the project. I'm trying to do just that. Someone, an end user, emailed me off-list, talking about how they'd be upset with a new rendering, talking of lost files. Let me offer a cheap and simple solution. Release an incremental

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please fix Color and/or Value transfer mode

2010-07-31 Thread geert . jordaens
Compile and end-user. Not all en-users compile their version of Gimp. Bumping the version number in XCF and implementing the compatibility would probably be better. - Originele e-mail - Van: Charlie De charlieco...@yahoo.com Aan: gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Verzonden:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please fix Color and/or Value transfer mode

2010-07-31 Thread Charlie De
Compile and end-user. Not all en-users compile their version of Gimp. Bumping the version number in XCF and implementing the compatibility would probably be better. Of course. But I had the impression the development cost of such a solution and the need to keep XCF unchanged were major

[Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread bob
Hi guys. Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. If I understand the gist of his proposition/fantasy, the idea is the ultimately his image editor would have a feature that can import, present and edit html

[Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread bob
Apologies - I forgot to link to the articles in question: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/07/29/in-defense-of-photoshop/ http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2010/06/feedback_please_html5_layers_in_photoshop.html -- bob (via www.gimpusers.com) ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please fix Color and/or Value transfer mode

2010-07-31 Thread Alexia Death
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Charlie De charlieco...@yahoo.com wrote: Compile and end-user. Not all en-users compile their version of  Gimp. Bumping the version number in XCF and implementing the compatibility  would probably be better. Of course.  But I had the impression the

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Samstag, 31. Juli 2010 schrub bob: Hi guys. Hey. Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. If I understand the gist of his proposition/fantasy, the idea is the ultimately his image editor would have a

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread LightningIsMyName
Hello, Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. I'll add to what Tobias said: I don't think that HTML rendering is necessary. Let's look for a moment on what HTML can do: 1. Render images in specific

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 7/31/10, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. I don't see any use cases where that would help. Then you might want to read up on recent trends in web programming. You see,

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 7/31/10, LightningIsMyName wrote: I don't see GIMP becoming an HTML editor - not only because there is no one with time to develop this (building an html editor is lots of work), but also because this isn't GIMP's product vision. Really? So GIMP is suddenly not the tool for web developers?

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread peter sikking
bob wrote: Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. If I understand the gist of his proposition/fantasy, the idea is the ultimately his image editor would have a feature that can import, present and edit

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 7/31/10, peter sikking wrote: so there is an explicit 'no' for GIMP as a web design tool. You probably meant web programming :) there is an explicit 'yes' for GIMP as a production tool for all graphics that are used on a website. This does mean that there needs to be better support for

[Gimp-developer] Plugged-in tools

2010-07-31 Thread Roland Lutz
Hi, there has been a discussion, in 2002-2004, to allow plugged-in tools. On 2002-02-22, Sven Neumann wrote: not discussed, but already implemented ;-) The CVS version has preliminary support for pluggable tools that can be either loaded as a plug-in (separate process) or as a module. I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plugged-in tools

2010-07-31 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi Roland On 07/31/2010 02:32 PM, Roland Lutz wrote: Hi, there has been a discussion, in 2002-2004, to allow plugged-in tools. On 2002-02-22, Sven Neumann wrote: not discussed, but already implemented ;-) The CVS version has preliminary support for pluggable tools that can be either loaded

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plugged-in tools

2010-07-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 7/31/10, Roland Lutz wrote: There has been repeatedly brought up the request for in-window applicability of the IWarp distort. Using IWarp in the preview pane is a nuisance and much inferior to, for example, the Photoshop Liquify tool. In fact, this has been the reason for me to consider

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please fix Color and/or Value transfer mode

2010-07-31 Thread Sven Neumann
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 17:34 -0700, Charlie De wrote: It's worth noting, however, that XCF is not meant to be an archival format. Uh, oh. Of course it is meant to be used that way. If you work on images using layers, then saving as XCF is the only way you can archive your work. As others have

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please fix Color and/or Value transfer mode

2010-07-31 Thread Sven Neumann
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 01:56 -0700, Charlie De wrote: So go fix it in gegl. I think it was decided 4 years ago what is going to happen to the layer mode bugs. And my point is that wasn't such a good decision precisely because it took 4 years to get it fixed. As stated, an earlier

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Bill Skaggs
It wouldn't be much harder to support html layers than to support text layers, if it were possible to link to a library that would do the rendering. The problem, as somebody pointed out earlier, is that html was never designed to be rendered in a definite way. The idea is really misguided --

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plugged-in tools

2010-07-31 Thread Bill Skaggs
Pluggable tools would be nice, but the tool system is already set up to make it easy to add new ones. It's one of the easiest places in the gimp code for a new developer to work, although it would be a lot easier if there were more developer documentation. The problem with the iwarp tool wasn't

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please fix Color and/or Value transfer mode

2010-07-31 Thread Christopher Curtis
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 01:56 -0700, Charlie De wrote: And my point is that wasn't such a good decision precisely because it took 4 years to get it fixed.  [...] If my line of thought had been followed 4 years ago, GEGL

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please fix Color and/or Value transfer mode

2010-07-31 Thread Christopher Curtis
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Christopher Curtis ccurt...@gmail.com wrote: it is custom coefficients in HSY-space: Here's a reference to the HSY color model, since it seems uncommon, and because when searching for gimp hsy in Google the second result is the email I _just_ sent (!!)

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plugged-in tools

2010-07-31 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I think an IWarp tool would require mechanisms in GIMP that don't exist yet as none of the current tools, even if superficially similar (like the smudge tool) requires them. Also, the exact way an IWarp tool should behave should be specified before one starts coding on it;) Yeah, getting input on

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plugged-in tools

2010-07-31 Thread Alexia Death
On Saturday, July 31, 2010 22:33:56 Tor Lillqvist wrote: I think an IWarp tool would require mechanisms in GIMP that don't exist yet as none of the current tools, even if superficially similar (like the smudge tool) requires them. Doing the iWarp tool in paint tool way was rejected because it

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Samstag, 31. Juli 2010 schrub Alexandre Prokoudine: On 7/31/10, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. I don't see any use cases where that would help. Then you might

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plugged-in tools

2010-07-31 Thread Roland Lutz
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Should using an IWarp tool mean entering a separate mode where you then have to apply and exit it when done? That is somewhat ugly, isn't it? That's how the Scissors tool works, so people are already used to it. This way, a separate warp history