Re: [Gimp-developer] Non-interactive (file-save-png)?

2003-07-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Douglas Lewan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have more than a handful of PNGs that should all be cropped and saved in the same way, i.e. the same rectangle cut from the left side. Sounds a lot like a job for convert from ImageMagick. (file-save-png) either (1) wants to complain about

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gradient dithering

2003-07-20 Thread Alastair Robinson
Hi Sven, On Saturday 19 July 2003 7:48 am, I'm working on it; I've got 1.3.16 installed and working, and it doesn't look as though the relevant code has changed too much (just been moved a bit). It would be really nice to get a patch against 1.3.16. A patch against 1.3.16 is now

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Joao S. O. Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am here working, though slowly, on the programable layer mode, which I proposed when I first joined the list. It's not such a small change, since adding layer modes breaks the cross-reading of .xcf files. So what I need to know now

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alastair Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday 19 July 2003 7:48 am, It has lots and lots of features that we did never promise and despite of 16bit support I don't see what we would be missing (provided we get the basic CMYK supoprt finished that we started to work on). I

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) writes: This is *extremely* unfair. _You_ are proposing a rather big version change, and your only argument is soemthing like I told soma magazine I sense your reaction as extremly unfair since we discussed the version number in all details

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gradient dithering

2003-07-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Patrick McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know those slashdot trolls.. Yes I know those slashdot trolls. They troll and flame whatever you do. So what is your point in mentioning them? Do you believe they would not troll about 1.4? I stronly doubt that. What is really hurting GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-20 Thread David Neary
Christopher W. Curtis wrote: On 07/19/03 13:10, Carol Spears wrote: I also will not write any English documentation until I can afford to buy that book that explains the English rules about hyphens. I'm not sure what book or what hyphens you are talking about, but the Elements of

[Gimp-developer] Re: (LONG) Problems with the GIMP

2003-07-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problems as I see them are 1) User feedback on the development series is poor 2) Documentation is poor 3) Our release cycle is poor 4) UI is not a priority. I am very surprised about point (4). We have put a lot of effort into improving the

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, 1) Transform the old help into something that will serve more or less as help for the new GIMP. This will cost quite some amount of time since the help browser is not uptodate and most of the content doesn't exactly fit the 1.3 UI anymore. What exactly is the problem with the

[Gimp-developer] Re: (LONG) Problems with the GIMP

2003-07-20 Thread Adam D. Moss
Carol Spears wrote: As much as I hate flash usually on the web, I think gimp needs a flash plugin and some flash demos. For what purpose? Could you elucidate? -- Adam D. Moss . ,,^^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.foxbox.org/ co:3 That gum you like is going to come back in style.

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-20 Thread Adam D. Moss
David Neary wrote: Just to explain, this is about whether applications which use the libgimp API to furnish services to the main GIMP app should be called plug-ins or plugins. Old story - I believe bex insisted on plug-ins, and eventually won people over - carol prefers plugins. 'Plugins' is

[Gimp-developer] Re: (LONG) Problems with the GIMP

2003-07-20 Thread Adam D. Moss
Michael Schumacher wrote: 2) Not enough developers use Bugzilla to find out what bugs need fixing 3) Not enough developers hear user complaints Most bug reports I've read are commented by at least one person who I'd consider to be one of the developers. Personally there's no WAY I have time to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: new-xcf [Re: Gimp-developer Digest, Vol10, Issue 18]

2003-07-20 Thread Adam D. Moss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) wrote: One thing (to bring this more on-topic again) to note is that vim doesn't handle large (gigabytes) files nice, loading it into memory. The same is probably true for emacs. The only editor I know (I didn't test millions of them though), that

Version Summary (was:: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 releaseplans)

2003-07-20 Thread Christopher W. Curtis
On 07/20/03 06:49, Sven Neumann wrote: A few people expressed that they dislike the version number, other liked it. We went through all the arguments a few times and finally decided that we want to go for 2.0. Firstly, I have no control over the version number and there's no point arguing

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-20 Thread Christopher W. Curtis
On 07/19/03 20:56, Carol Spears wrote: Having the ./gimp-1.3/plug-ins is problematic to me. The rest of gimp names use hyphens as wisely as you can expect, but not this one area. Aha ... well, doing a quick search with 'dict,' it knows about plug-in and refers plugin to plug-in

[Gimp-developer] (LONG) Problems with the GIMP

2003-07-20 Thread Alan Horkan
1) User feedback on the development series is poor Mozilla has nightly builds. Mozilla gets lots of feedback. When I asked if there were binaries (RPMs) of the Gimp 1.3.x releases I was told in no uncertain terms that I should be building from CVS. Some RPMs of some of the releases were

[Gimp-developer] Me too, or should I say me 2.0

2003-07-20 Thread Alan Horkan
I was asked to make my opinion known on-list, there is no need to reply to this message. On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Various Gnome projects decided the move to GTK2 and additional feature changes were a big enough change to merit a major number revision. Given the progress,

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-20 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-20 um 13.36 schrieb Sven Neumann: You're quoting out of context without replying to me; if you prefer to get an answer you'd better fix that because I might miss a mail in the floods at times. What exactly is the problem with the help-browser in 1.3? I know that there are

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is the mapping of content to context, the system is still based on the 1.2 help which won't get us very far except with the 1.2 help. This can be easily fixed. We just need to find out what changes we actually want to do. Mitch seems to

[Gimp-developer] CMYK Plugin [was: tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans]

2003-07-20 Thread Alastair Robinson
Hi Sven, On Sunday 20 July 2003 11:44 am, Sven Neumann wrote: The CVS version does include some naive RGB - CMYK conversion routines and it has a CMYK color selector. What is still missing is support for loading and saving CMYK files. I would like to add this capability to a couple of file

Re: [Gimp-developer] CMYK Plugin

2003-07-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alastair Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds like a good start. If you want to investigate better RGB - CMYK conversion, then the littlecms library is a good choice to do the heavy lifting; it can do accurate conversions between colour spaces defined by ICC profiles. I would like

[Gimp-developer] wgo

2003-07-20 Thread Carol Spears
i would like to thank all of the developers for their help with mmaybe.gimp.org. from the one who made me wait for Tommer to come back and get involved and the two who effectively fired him without letting me know. also Raphael for sitting on it until Sven could find a web site that cuts it down.

Re: [Gimp-developer] CMYK Plugin

2003-07-20 Thread Alastair Robinson
Hi Sven, On Monday 21 July 2003 1:43 am, Sven Neumann wrote: I would like to postpone this until after the release. However we should probably add a dummy pointer to the conversion functions now so that we can use it for passing a color profile later. Yes, that makes sense - you'll need to

Re: [Gimp-developer] CMYK Plugin [was: tentative GIMP 2.0release plans]

2003-07-20 Thread Leonard Rosenthol
At 1:33 AM +0100 7/21/03, Alastair Robinson wrote: Sounds like a good start. If you want to investigate better RGB - CMYK conversion, then the littlecms library is a good choice to do the heavy lifting; it can do accurate conversions between colour spaces defined by ICC profiles. Yes, great