Re: [Gimp-developer] Just wanted to say hi

2008-03-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
Tom Bass wrote:
 Hi everybody,

 I'm no linux-geek, I'm based on Windows, so I'm interested in helping 
 out in the Win-Parts of Gimp - if there's still some help needed ;-) I 
 checked the bugtracker and found interesting starting tasks, that I'd 
 like to work on - but some problems occured with the compilation of the 
 SVN trunk with MinGW. But that are some questions that I may ask later on :)

 Regards

 Tom
   

Hi Tom!

As a hacker willing to contribute to GIMP development you are more than
welcome. Apart from Windows specific problems, a good way to get
involved in the GIMP source is to solve milestoned bugs. You will find
these bugs in the 'Milestones' column at bugs.gimp.org.

As Bill said, setting up a build environment for GIMP on Windows is
quite complicated. This mailing list and #gimp @ irc.gnome.org are good
places for getting help.

Best regards,
Martin Nordholts
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Re: [Gimp-developer] gsoc project

2008-03-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

this sounds like an interesting project, but it is very much directed
towards scientific image processing which seems quite out-of-scope for
GIMP. Of course such a plug-in could be written and it would be a nice
addition for a very special and very small user group. But I don't think
it would be of interest for our main user base. Of course, if we can
find a mentor for it, it could still be a GSoC project. I don't think it
would get high priority though.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] gsoc project

2008-03-19 Thread Ingo Lütkebohle
Hi Rafael,

your idea sounds interesting, and would definitely be a great tool for
ImageJ, but I'm not sure it is very relevant for The GIMP, which is
mainly targeted at interactive image manipulation, as opposed to the
batch processing one usually does in image processing applications of
the sort you describe.

If you are currently using ImageJ, what would you say is the advantage
of doing it in The GIMP, instead of a GUI on top of ImageJ? ImageJ has
all the relevant operations already, so I would expect that to be much
less work.

cheers,

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:01 AM, rafael mesquita
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  People usually want to process image for specifics reasons : noise
 extractions, signatures analysis, historic documents analysis, activation
 areas detection from an human brain studies, and for so many other reasons.

cheers, Ingo

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP to adopt this scripts

2008-03-19 Thread Alchemie foto\grafiche
 I do not think gimp needs to come with extra stuff by default. There is
  more
  than enough already.

well there are more then enough complex and seldom used features..
 but then some basic simple basic features are missed

2 examples of missed function available with extra script and plugin that in my 
user opinion should be adopted 

1 what is ps is called  Apply to image(=copy visible+paste +add new layer) 
( available for gimp but not in gimp-out-of-the-box )

2 export layer(s )as
 (to replace it i use GAP split image into frames 
and i suppose split image into frames may be adapted to be a Gimp plugin 
instead then a GAP plugin...and renamed as export  layer(s) as

3 Filter all layer and filterMacro
Is available only installing GAP but why?
Is quite useful in gimp also for users that have no any specific interest in 
Animationsame for Filtermacro also only in GAP

Note that users have no way to install 2 and 3 if not installing the whole GAP 
package




Alexia Death-2 wrote:
 .. What gimp needs is a quick drag-and-drop way
 to install extras in packs. I have a script that I haven't put into
 release
 because it needs certain patterns to be installed too... And theres no way
 I
 can make that happen without some pain to users.

Well it is already possible and is very simple, but the problem is that many 
users at least on windows are not aware of it

1 suppose you have a pack of scripts, and the script requires some extras as 
extra gradient, pattern , even extra Gimpimpressionist preset

2 well is just needed put everything in folders with same name of related 
folders in usr/gimp as scriptgradientpattern Gimpimpressionist,and 
inside Gimp inpressionist a folder called  presetand you zip everything

then the user wil have only to uncompress the zip in there as in C:/Document 
and setting/username/.gimp-2.4 to get everything in place

Problem is that
1 users are used to unzip the script in the script folder, they may overlook 
that in this case they must point the unzipper to C:/Document and 
setting/username/.gimp-2.4  instead then to C:/Document and 
setting/username/.gimp-2.4 /script

2 Unzipper may have different defaults ,with some default   ( as do not 
overwrite files) this will no work

But the concept work if a compressed folder script contain a gimp-24 folder and 
inside script pattern  brush subfolder, if uncompressed in C:/Document 
and setting/username/.gimp-2.4 will put everything in the right place...and 
with just 1 click

Maybe is possible automatize this step (unzip in), because from user point is 
very simple but also a bit tricky 

   

   
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Synchronization of GSoC responses

2008-03-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 16:03 +, Omari Stephens wrote:

 It seems counterproductive that Rafael Mesquita received three separate 
 responses that started off pretty identically (even though they included 
 unique 
 and useful information).  I'd like to offer the suggestion that, when 
 responding 
 to a project proposal sent to the ML, that the responder (1) acknowledge 
 responses sent before his own, (2) try to avoid duplicating content of the 
 prior 
 responses, and (3) explicitly mention how his response differs from the ones 
 before it.

This is unavoidable on a mailing-list. Not everyone receives the mails
at the same time and there is no way you can know if anyone else has
already responded to the mail.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Synchronization of GSoC responses

2008-03-19 Thread Omari Stephens
Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This is unavoidable on a mailing-list. Not everyone receives the mails
 at the same time and there is no way you can know if anyone else has
 already responded to the mail.
I can see how that would be the case if the responses were temporally close to 
each other.  However, the receipt times at bc2.EECS.Berkeley.EDU for Rafael's 
message and the three responses were:
Rafael Mesquita:  Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:01:58 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Skaggs:  Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:32:51 -0700 (PDT)
Sven Neumann: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:19:23 -0700 (PDT)
Ingo Luetkebohle: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:45:31 -0700 (PDT)

If you're saying you didn't get Bill's message before responding, then so be it 
(though I might offer that your email is sort of broken; ignore this quip if 
you 
choose to receive daily batches of gimp-developer mail).  What I imagine 
happened, however, is that people read Rafael's message and responded 
immediately rather than first reading the responses that had already been sent, 
and only subsequently sending a response.

I realize that it's hard to both be lazy and read through an entire thread 
before responding, but I feel that we should at least be able to put forth the 
extra effort when trying to convince students to spend their time improving The 
Gimp rather than going to a more organized project.

And, seriously.  If multiple hours of delay isn't enough time for at least the 
majority of respondents to get on the same page, then we should probably have 
one person acting as a liaison between the folks on gimp-developer and 
inquiring 
students.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gsoc project

2008-03-19 Thread rafael mesquita
Bill ,
like Sven said, my idea is directed towards scientific image processing, but
I think this doesn`t mean only few people would use it, maybe this could
help gimp developer`s too, for example.

Sven,
I understand your point, and agree with most things that you said.

Ingo,
it really would be much less work, but the work would not be only doing a
GUI for imageJ. the advantage of doing it on The Gimp is that The Gimp is a
much bigger project, than imageJ and it could have those interesting tools.

Well, If you change your mind and decide to go ahead with this, or any
similar idea, please contact me, i am disposed to talk.

thank you for your attention, again
http://www.upe.poli.br/%7Erafael

2008/3/19, Ingo Lütkebohle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Rafael,

 your idea sounds interesting, and would definitely be a great tool for
 ImageJ, but I'm not sure it is very relevant for The GIMP, which is
 mainly targeted at interactive image manipulation, as opposed to the
 batch processing one usually does in image processing applications of
 the sort you describe.

 If you are currently using ImageJ, what would you say is the advantage
 of doing it in The GIMP, instead of a GUI on top of ImageJ? ImageJ has
 all the relevant operations already, so I would expect that to be much
 less work.

 cheers,


 On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:01 AM, rafael mesquita
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   People usually want to process image for specifics reasons : noise
  extractions, signatures analysis, historic documents analysis,
 activation
  areas detection from an human brain studies, and for so many other
 reasons.


 cheers, Ingo


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Re: [Gimp-developer] gsoc project

2008-03-19 Thread Bill Skaggs
rafael mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, If you change your mind and decide to go ahead with this, or any
 similar idea, please contact me, i am disposed to talk.

That isn't quite how GSOC works.  Students apply, then
people from the project rank their proposals.  Google looks
at the rankings and decides which projects to support.  We're
just letting you know that some of us are not disposed to
give such a project a very high ranking unless you can do
more to convince us that the results would be used by
numerous people to do important things.

Best wishes,

  -- Bill
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[Gimp-developer] LGM 2008 - call for atendants

2008-03-19 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Hi Gimp folks!

We are getting close to the 3rd edition of the ibre Graphics Meeting, where, 
over the last years, we have been organizing the equivalent of GimpConf as 
well.

It will take place in may, 8th to 11th, in Wrocław, Poland.

So, it is time for us to organize who is attending so that the conference and 
GIMP treasure can hep funding transportation fees.

People interested in attending, please send me name, and a rough estimative of 
the travel costs to getting there (sometime nearby we will need more precise 
values, but I prefer to have a rough estimate as soon as possible)

Note that in other years people where asked to put their names on a wiki 
page - this time, I am asking you to write me directly. We shall setup such a 
wiki page, but I am rather getting e-mails and preparing a list here without 
having to rely on the wiki.

http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2008/index.php?lang=en

http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/index.php/Conference

Regards,

js
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