Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-22 Thread meetthegimp.org
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:52 AM, sam tygier wrote: > Sven Neumann wrote: >> >> Having someone work on GIMP full-time is something entirely different >> than paying for features. It has my full support. But I am afraid that >> it will be extremely difficult to find someone capable and willing to d

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-21 Thread sam tygier
Sven Neumann wrote: > On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:18 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> Personally I would be _encouraged_ to further contribute to GIMP if GIMP >> had someone working full time. Having someone working full time on GIMP >> would mean that the development speed of GIMP would signifi

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-16 Thread Jon Senior
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:50:17 +0100 Sven Neumann wrote: > We most urgently need a developer interested in improving color > management. If we have such a developer, we can certainly use such > devices. I don't think that I have enough C knowledge here (or specifically, GTK knowledge), but I see

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 20:31 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: > >> That makes these devices 11 years old and they are amazing. The one >> you sent me works fine, and with little hackery I even managed to make >> it hotpluggable using a serial adapter

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 20:31 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: > That makes these devices 11 years old and they are amazing. The one > you sent me works fine, and with little hackery I even managed to make > it hotpluggable using a serial adapter and some custom python to > introduce it to my X when it ap

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Friday 15 January 2010, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > On 2010-01-15 18:02, Alexia Death wrote: > > Well, I didn't know it was an option, and my interest in such device > > is not limited to just developing gimp, so I've been plotting to get > > one on my own... But it would help a lot if me and someo

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > As far as I know the tablet that Mitch owns is a Wacom I (with serial > connection). It's the same model that I sent you last year. These > tablets were donated by Wacom in 1999 for the first GIMP developer > conference. That makes these devic

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Paka
* Sven Neumann [01-15-10 13:18]: > > As far as I know the tablet that Mitch owns is a Wacom I (with serial > connection). It's the same model that I sent you last year. These > tablets were donated by Wacom in 1999 for the first GIMP developer > conference. > > It might make sense to ask Wacom i

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 19:17 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > > Oh you also proposed to buy one for me or mitch too so we can debug together > > etc > > > > Well I don't think I'll use it very much, it's better to use that money for > > somethi

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
Sven Neumann wrote: > Having someone work on GIMP full-time is something entirely different > than paying for features. It has my full support. Ok then it seems like we're on the same page, I am also skeptical about bounties for features, there's just to much potential problems with that. / Ma

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2010-01-15 18:02, Alexia Death wrote: > Well, I didn't know it was an option, and my interest in such device > is not limited to just developing gimp, so I've been plotting to get > one on my own... But it would help a lot if me and someone else, like > Martin or Mitch had the same set, for test

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > Oh you also proposed to buy one for me or mitch too so we can debug together > etc > > Well I don't think I'll use it very much, it's better to use that money for > something else Well, my goal in that was mostly to save debugging time. T

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
Martin Nordholts wrote: >> Well, I didn't know it was an option, and my interest in such device >> is not limited to just developing gimp, so I've been plotting to get >> one on my own... But it would help a lot if me and someone else, like >> Martin or Mitch had the same set, for testing etc purpo

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
Alexia Death wrote: >> Why aren't you just asking if you can have this hardware paid from the >> GIMP account? We are getting several hundred dollars of donations per >> week and can easily afford buying developers the hardware they need. > > Well, I didn't know it was an option, and my interest i

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 11:59 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: > >> If Gimp aims to be a professional tool, then support for things like >> decent graphics tablets and extras needs to be there and for it to be >> there developers need access t

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:18 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: > Personally I would be _encouraged_ to further contribute to GIMP if GIMP > had someone working full time. Having someone working full time on GIMP > would mean that the development speed of GIMP would significantly > increase, and it

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 11:35 +0100, Jon Senior wrote: > I'm not exactly a contributing developer, but I do have access to a > Spider and calibrated screens. Are there outstanding issues regarding > colour management? I might be able to provide some help here. We most urgently need a developer inte

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 11:59 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: > If Gimp aims to be a professional tool, then support for things like > decent graphics tablets and extras needs to be there and for it to be > there developers need access to the tools. I'm currently trying to > scrounge up enough to ge

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > We often point out to people that GIMP is lacking contributors. Maybe > the lack of contributors is a side effect of how the project currently > is run with regards to money? About three weeks ago someone told me that he wanted to donate

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Jon Senior
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:59:13 +0200 Alexia Death wrote: > Another thing that developers should at least try to use is screen > calibration hardware and color managed process. I personally have > never done this bacause of the cost of owning one of the spider > devices. I'm not exactly a contributi

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote: > On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:18 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> Personally I would be _encouraged_ to further contribute to GIMP if >> GIMP had someone working full time. > > I think it depends on the person... > > On the other hand, I can a

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:18 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: > Personally I would be _encouraged_ to further contribute to GIMP if > GIMP had someone working full time. I think it depends on the person... On the other hand, I can also imagine incentives in the form of socks :-), or graphics tablet

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-14 Thread Martin Nordholts
Sven Neumann wrote: > I don't think that donations can speed up GIMP development. On the > contrary, paying some developers for their work is more likely going to > demotivate others. Since I think this is an important issue and since we are not that many developers, we don't need to guess, we ca

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/15/10, bart wrote: >> I don't think that donations can speed up GIMP development. On the >> contrary, paying some developers for their work is more likely going to >> demotivate others. > > Don't know why this shouldn't work with the GIMP projekt. You can't just extrapolate experience of one

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-14 Thread bart
> I don't think that donations can speed up GIMP development. On the > contrary, paying some developers for their work is more likely going to > demotivate others. Don't know why this shouldn't work with the GIMP projekt. This works well for TYPO3 and Blender well too. I would help to organize s

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-14 Thread Sven Neumann
On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 21:38 +, Sam Tygier wrote: > There has recently been much discussion on how long it will take to > finish gimp 2.8, and whether donations could speed this up. > > Krita (KDE's image manipulation program) recently asked its users for > €3000 to sponsor one of their old G