Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-22 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:35:49 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 07:53 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: > >> I think the point here is that configure, make, make install on a GIMP >> tarball - with all dependencies met - should result in a GIMP >> installation with good support for w

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-22 Thread Sven Neumann
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 07:53 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: > I think the point here is that configure, make, make install on a GIMP > tarball - with all dependencies met - should result in a GIMP > installation with good support for working with RAW images. Oh come on. The ufraw plug-in is much

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/20/2010 10:51 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 22:18 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: >>> GIMP can't load or save any file format except XCF without separate >>> plug-ins. So by your definition of "native support" GIMP doesn't support >>> any file formats except XCF. Most features i

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Sven Neumann
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 22:18 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: > > GIMP can't load or save any file format except XCF without separate > > plug-ins. So by your definition of "native support" GIMP doesn't support > > any file formats except XCF. Most features in GIMP are implemented as > > plug-ins. So I d

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread fufuz
> GIMP can't load or save any file format except XCF without separate > plug-ins. So by your definition of "native support" GIMP doesn't support > any file formats except XCF. Most features in GIMP are implemented as > plug-ins. So I don't see your point in asking us to add RAW support to > the cor

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > ... GEGL will also use third-party libraries to read and > write RAW files. We are certainly not going to reinvent the wheel. GEGL already supports using dcraw to load raw files using the operations gegl:raw-load uses the dcraw binary, readin

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Sven Neumann
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 01:11 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: > Without the requirement of installing separate software/plug-ins. GIMP can't load or save any file format except XCF without separate plug-ins. So by your definition of "native support" GIMP doesn't support any file formats except XCF. Most

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/20/10, fufuz wrote: > I read on the Internet, that GEGL will provide support for many raw format > types of different camera manufacturers already by itself Where I come from people say that the only thing that happens by itself is newborn kittens :) GEGL already uses libopenraw library tha

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/19/10, Hal V. Engel wrote: > UFRAW has a nice GIMP plug-in that has full RAW processing features. Not > sure why it is necessary to reinvent the wheel. There are different ways to deal with RAW images. A well-known proprietary analog of GIMP :) comes with a plug-in that takes care or doing

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread fufuz
Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:21:17 +0200 > Von: Sven Neumann > An: fu...@gmx.net > CC: gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > Betreff: Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support > On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 21:01 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: > > Thanks, but I know UFRAW and I am also using i

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 21:01 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: > Thanks, but I know UFRAW and I am also using it myself, but that's not > the point of my question. I just wanted to know, when GIMP will > support RAW processing out of the box. Define "out of the box", please. Sven

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread fufuz
fu...@gmx.net > CC: gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > Betreff: Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support > On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 15:46 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: > > A few programs (CinePaint for example) use dcraw to allow direct > > support for opening/processing RAW

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 15:46 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: > A few programs (CinePaint for example) use dcraw to allow direct > support for opening/processing RAW files of many camera manufacturers. > I personally think, that it would be a great feature for GIMP, too. You can already open and process

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Sunday, September 19, 2010 08:51:10 am Martin Nordholts wrote: > On 09/19/2010 03:46 PM, fu...@gmx.net wrote: > > A few programs (CinePaint for example) use dcraw to allow direct support > > for opening/processing RAW files of many camera manufacturers. I > > personally think, that it would be a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/19/2010 03:46 PM, fu...@gmx.net wrote: > A few programs (CinePaint for example) use dcraw to allow direct support for > opening/processing RAW files of many camera manufacturers. I personally > think, that it would be a great feature for GIMP, too. > > I've also read, that the full implemen

[Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread fufuz
A few programs (CinePaint for example) use dcraw to allow direct support for opening/processing RAW files of many camera manufacturers. I personally think, that it would be a great feature for GIMP, too. I've also read, that the full implementation of GEGL will provide native RAW support in a f