Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-22 Thread Sven Neumann
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 07:53 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: I think the point here is that configure, make, make install on a GIMP tarball - with all dependencies met - should result in a GIMP installation with good support for working with RAW images. Oh come on. The ufraw plug-in is much

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-22 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:35:49 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 07:53 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: I think the point here is that configure, make, make install on a GIMP tarball - with all dependencies met - should result in a GIMP installation with good support for working

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/20/10, fufuz wrote: I read on the Internet, that GEGL will provide support for many raw format types of different camera manufacturers already by itself Where I come from people say that the only thing that happens by itself is newborn kittens :) GEGL already uses libopenraw library that

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Sven Neumann
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 01:11 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: Without the requirement of installing separate software/plug-ins. GIMP can't load or save any file format except XCF without separate plug-ins. So by your definition of native support GIMP doesn't support any file formats except XCF. Most

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: ... GEGL will also use third-party libraries to read and write RAW files. We are certainly not going to reinvent the wheel. GEGL already supports using dcraw to load raw files using the operations gegl:raw-load uses the dcraw

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread fufuz
GIMP can't load or save any file format except XCF without separate plug-ins. So by your definition of native support GIMP doesn't support any file formats except XCF. Most features in GIMP are implemented as plug-ins. So I don't see your point in asking us to add RAW support to the core.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Sven Neumann
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 22:18 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: GIMP can't load or save any file format except XCF without separate plug-ins. So by your definition of native support GIMP doesn't support any file formats except XCF. Most features in GIMP are implemented as plug-ins. So I don't see

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/20/2010 10:51 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 22:18 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: GIMP can't load or save any file format except XCF without separate plug-ins. So by your definition of native support GIMP doesn't support any file formats except XCF. Most features in GIMP are

[Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread fufuz
A few programs (CinePaint for example) use dcraw to allow direct support for opening/processing RAW files of many camera manufacturers. I personally think, that it would be a great feature for GIMP, too. I've also read, that the full implementation of GEGL will provide native RAW support in a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/19/2010 03:46 PM, fu...@gmx.net wrote: A few programs (CinePaint for example) use dcraw to allow direct support for opening/processing RAW files of many camera manufacturers. I personally think, that it would be a great feature for GIMP, too. I've also read, that the full

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Sunday, September 19, 2010 08:51:10 am Martin Nordholts wrote: On 09/19/2010 03:46 PM, fu...@gmx.net wrote: A few programs (CinePaint for example) use dcraw to allow direct support for opening/processing RAW files of many camera manufacturers. I personally think, that it would be a great

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 15:46 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: A few programs (CinePaint for example) use dcraw to allow direct support for opening/processing RAW files of many camera manufacturers. I personally think, that it would be a great feature for GIMP, too. You can already open and process

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread fufuz
...@gmx.net CC: gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Betreff: Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 15:46 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: A few programs (CinePaint for example) use dcraw to allow direct support for opening/processing RAW files of many camera manufacturers

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 21:01 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: Thanks, but I know UFRAW and I am also using it myself, but that's not the point of my question. I just wanted to know, when GIMP will support RAW processing out of the box. Define out of the box, please. Sven

Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support

2010-09-19 Thread fufuz
, 19 Sep 2010 22:21:17 +0200 Von: Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org An: fu...@gmx.net CC: gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Betreff: Re: [Gimp-developer] Native RAW support On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 21:01 +0200, fu...@gmx.net wrote: Thanks, but I know UFRAW and I am also using it myself, but that's