Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > you and I are scheduled to discuss this after camp. if you continue > to insist to reply to my mail, i will continue to insist that you > stick to *your* scheduled time for this discussion. I said that I want to wait till after the camp before I tak

[Gimp-developer] Re: gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 20.47 schrieb Carol Spears: > I tried to work with simple docbook, docbook, website docbook. > I don't know how recent your gimp download is but this format > is nothing like gimp since gimp-1.0.2. I have to stretch my > imagination so much to make the format fit the gim

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl-cvs status

2003-07-23 Thread Thierry Vignaud
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann )> writes: > > is it worth building the gimp-perl module from cvs yet? > > Depends on what you are needing it for. > > The evrsion in CVS seems to be fully working, except that none of > the examples that use their own Gtk+ interface have been converted >

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, can we please try to avoid a flamewar about DocBook here. All our help is in DocBook, it is a well established format for this purpose. I admit that it can be quite complex but it is well documented and you usually need a small subset only. I am sure that people who want t

[Gimp-developer] Bug triage guides

2003-07-23 Thread David Neary
Hi, I just found this page... http://developer.gnome.org/projects/bugsquad/triage/ ...which explains the ideas behind filtering bugs. It's actually quite a simple explanation, and applies quite well to the gimp when you substitute #gimp for #bugs :) Anyone who wants to contribute to the gimp bug

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
David Neary wrote: Carol Spears wrote: Daniel Egger wrote: DocBook was written exactly for the purpose we need. as much as i love gimp, i wonder if someone got their rent paid from netscape.com for making that my choice regardless. With everything else being so sensible in gimp, ho

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-23 Thread Kelly Martin
Patrick McFarland wrote: I am one of these active users that have been lead to believe that gimp 2.0 will use GEGL. So, all the developers out that think 2.0 is yet another small gimp release, or something else (imho) stupid, can just go away or something. Im actually kind of sick of listening al

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 21.57 schrieb David Neary: > Actually, I'm not sure I see the benefits in not having html as > the primary format... Sure, we could go for a format which allows > multi-node searching (like info only better), but html docs would > have the added benefit of not needing to be l

[Gimp-developer] Re: gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
Daniel Egger wrote: Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 20.47 schrieb Carol Spears: I tried to work with simple docbook, docbook, website docbook. I don't know how recent your gimp download is but this format is nothing like gimp since gimp-1.0.2. I have to stretch my imagination so much to make the fo

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp perl.

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: On Wednesday 23 July 2003 1:49 am, Seth Burgess wrote: Its still pretty bleeding edge. You'll need to get bleeding edge perl modules (which ones are documented in the gimp-perl cvs) Some stuff works, some doesn't. Its not looking likely I'll get a chance to do bring ev

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl-cvs status

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 02:51:16PM -0400, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: is it worth building the gimp-perl module from cvs yet? Depends on what you are needing it for. The evrsion in CVS seems to be fully working, except that none

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 21.03 schrieb Sven Neumann: > usually need a small subset only. I am sure that people who want to > contribute documentation can learn the necessary bits pretty fast. Or even better: Don't need to... -- Servus, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digita

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help2

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 18.34 schrieb David Neary: > Where is the index? And when you say "outline" do you mean "root > document with lots of dead links"? Nope, I mean like a rough idea of the table of contents: 1. Introduction 1. Welcome to The GIMP 1.1

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's exactly my point. Sorry to be negative here but I have the very > strong feeling that we will not get gimp-help-2 into adequate shape > until the projected date of release of GIMP 2.0 and as such it doesn't > make a whole lot of sense to me to

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Kelly Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > PS5 and Gimp 1.0 were pretty competitive in most areas, with a few > well-noted shortcomings. PS7 completely blows away CVS HEAD. > Releasing it as 2.0 will invite comparisons, and you don't want to > do that right now. I am not afraid of such comp

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-23 Thread Kelly Martin
Sven Neumann wrote: The ball is rolling now and any further discussion about it is only hurting GIMP's reputation. You're going to do what you're going to do. I'm just offering my counsel. Claiming that offering my counsel is "hurting GIMP's reputation" is a hamfisted way of telling me to shut

[Gimp-developer] Re: gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-07-23 um 16.41 schrieb Carol Spears: [ mail stripped down to points that haven't been answered a gazillion times... ] > a layout and dtd made for gimp by people who use gimp and need > for gimp to document itself and such would be useful for many > many applications, i guess. Don't

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
Kelly Martin wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: The ball is rolling now and any further discussion about it is only hurting GIMP's reputation. You're going to do what you're going to do. I'm just offering my counsel. Claiming that offering my counsel is "hurting GIMP's reputation" is a hamfisted wa

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-23 Thread David Neary
Carol Spears wrote: > Kelly Martin wrote: > >Claiming that offering my counsel is "hurting GIMP's > >reputation" is a hamfisted way of telling me to shut up because you > >don't like my opinion. Releasing 1.4 as 2.0 will do more to hurt > >GIMP's reputation than anything I could say about why y

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-07-23 um 18.17 schrieb Sven Neumann: > I think we could get the framework done for 2.0 and fill in the > content when 2.0 is out. Ok, this sounds like a plan; I'm not entirely happy but after all this is not the only of our goals... :) > The help files are supposed to be distribute

[Gimp-developer] Re: tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-23 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2003-07-23 at 1320.11 -0400): > > counsel. Claiming that offering my counsel is "hurting GIMP's > > reputation" is a hamfisted way of telling me to shut up because you > > don't like my opinion. Releasing 1.4 as 2.0 will do more to hurt > what does "hamfisted" mean? Using d

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Kelly Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sven Neumann wrote: >> The ball is rolling now and any further discussion about it is only >> hurting GIMP's reputation. > > You're going to do what you're going to do. I'm just offering my > counsel. Claiming that offering my counsel is "hurting G

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl-cvs status / wingimp

2003-07-23 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 09:47:37AM -0400, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > get this message from gimp that if i am elite enough to use > threading, then i am elite enough to fix it. ;) > i think if i pin perl from woody, i am elite enough to fix it. The problem is that debian woody uses

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: you and I are scheduled to discuss this after camp. if you continue to insist to reply to my mail, i will continue to insist that you stick to *your* scheduled time for this discussion. I said that I want to wait till after

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help2

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
Daniel Egger wrote: Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 18.34 schrieb David Neary: Where is the index? And when you say "outline" do you mean "root document with lots of dead links"? Nope, I mean like a rough idea of the table of contents: 1. Introduction 1. Welcome to The G

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl-cvs status

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 02:51:16PM -0400, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: is it worth building the gimp-perl module from cvs yet? Depends on what you are needing it for. The evrsion in CVS seems to be fully working, except that none

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl-cvs status / wingimp

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 09:47:37AM -0400, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: get this message from gimp that if i am elite enough to use threading, then i am elite enough to fix it. ;) i think if i pin perl from woody, i am elite en

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread David Neary
Daniel Egger wrote: > Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 21.57 schrieb David Neary: > > Actually, I'm not sure I see the benefits in not having html as > > the primary format... Sure, we could go for a format which allows > > multi-node searching (like info only better), but html docs would > > have the added b

[Gimp-developer] Update on the Drive to 2.0

2003-07-23 Thread David Neary
Hi all, Just wanted to give ye a quick update on the triage of un-milestoned bugs in the run-up to the 2.0 feature freeze. Thanks to the help of Maurits Rijk, Tino Schwarz and Alan Horkan, there are now only 200 outstanding bugs to be filtered, compared to the 361 yesterday. However, I have t

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-07-23 um 22.35 schrieb David Neary: > I may be missing the point, but if you use relative paths for > linking, there wouldn't be a problem, would there? There is, because I still need to know the filenames somehow. Setting up a mapping topic->HTML file for GIMP is not elegant but doa