Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-21 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-03, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote: Using an analogy, the current situation for blending is like not having the curves tool, but only preset curves to choose from. And indeed there's a relation between curves and blending, for each RGB blend mode can be described as a set of 256

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-21 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-21, David Gowers 00a...@gmail.com wrote:  it is pointless to fix bugs/problems on windows, since they do not  happen (and if they happen, developers do not want to see reports). No, it means the bugs are in GTK+, not GIMP, It was GIMP's decision to use GTK+, so any bug in GTK is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-21 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-21, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: Good to know; so let me refine: is there ANYTHING in the move to single window which would not be achieved by  a) restricting the maximal size of image window to the gap between     two toolboxes; and  b) making

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-21 Thread Tor Lillqvist
It was GIMP's decision to use GTK+, Well, d'oh! I wonder if you know what the G in GTK+ means? Yeah, they should have stayed with Motif, would have prevented the port to Windows and all the clueless whining that causes. --tml ___ Gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-21 Thread yahvuu
Ilya Zakharevich wrote: On 2009-10-03, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote: Using an analogy, the current situation for blending is like not having the curves tool, but only preset curves to choose from. And indeed there's a relation between curves and blending, for each RGB blend mode can be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: It was GIMP's decision to use GTK+ You made my day :) The particular 'communications breakdown' is between GTK+ and the Windows window manager, GIMP is not involved in the problem, only a casualty of it. Wrong.  And even if it were

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-21 Thread Karl Günter Wünsch
On Wednesday 21 October 2009, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: Good to know; so let me refine: is there ANYTHING in the move to single window which would not be achieved by a) restricting the maximal size of image window to the gap between two toolboxes; and b) making z-order changes

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-21 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Let me restate it:  it is pointless to fix bugs/problems on windows, since they do not  happen (and if they happen, developers do not want to see reports). No, not at all. Bug reports (in the proper place, i.e. bugzilla.gnome.org) are always welcome, especially if they describe specific error

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-21 Thread yahvuu
Hi all, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: I can see how a John Do can blame GIMP for GTK+ issues, but I don't see why GIMP developers should bother about John Do's misconceptions about software development. perhaps the Windows version should wear a 'beta port of GTK+' disclaimer as a nag-screen.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Airbrush/Brush Banding Effect At Low Pressure/Opacity

2009-10-21 Thread Jay Cox
On Oct 20, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 12:22 -0800, Christopher Howard wrote: Though having a far from sufficient understanding of how the GIMP brush painting process works, it seems to me like this is the fundamental problem: In making

[Gimp-developer] using a parasite in a python import/export script

2009-10-21 Thread Lucas Beyer
Hello, If this is the wrong list for my question, please tell me the right place for it. I wrote an exporter script (to a new file format) in python. This script requires the user to choose the location of some other file, amongst other settings before saving the image so in the call to the

Re: [Gimp-developer] using a parasite in a python import/export script

2009-10-21 Thread Rob Antonishen
I found that the png exporter plugin uses parasites for this, that sounds interesting. Now, trying to read my parasite is a problem, I need to read it before the call to register but at that time, the GIMP system doesn't seem to be ready yet. Just doing:     print gimp.parasite_list() in

Re: [Gimp-developer] using a parasite in a python import/export script

2009-10-21 Thread Lucas Beyer
Works for me. Here is a capture from my python console: GIMP 2.6.4 Python Console Python 2.5.4 (r254:67916, Dec 23 2008, 15:10:54) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] print gimp.parasite_list() ('exif-orientation-rotate', 'testing', 'jpeg-save-defaults') Yes, in the python-console it works

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-21 Thread Sven Neumann
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 00:41 +, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: This is a very sad situation. Note that most of users won't be able to install GIMP documentation locally [*], and in today's state of mobility, people are very often without Internet access... [*] Try to understand how to get

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-21 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-21, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: This is a very sad situation. Note that most of users won't be able to install GIMP documentation locally [*], and in today's state of mobility, people are very often without Internet access... [*] Try to understand how to get GIMP docs

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-21 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-21, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: The particular 'communications breakdown' is between GTK+ and the Windows window manager, GIMP is not involved in the problem, only a casualty of it. Wrong.  And even if it were true, the problem is *with GIMP*, If a