Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 10:46 -0700, Akkana Peck wrote: > Jay Smith writes: > > My desire would be for: > > > >click (on first point) > >click (on second point to finish the line) > >do a keystroke command that can be accomplished with ONE hand > > to execute the task (I would prefer not to have to hit the Enter > > key) > > You could perhaps do this with a plug-in: > > - Use the Paths tool > - Click on first point, then on second point This has already been done: The discussion: http://forum.meetthegimp.org/index.php/topic,223.0.htm and the current Python code: http://forum.meetthegimp.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=223.0;attach=328 > It would still be a useful feature to add to the Rotate tool, and > that discussion should continue; but since any change to a tool > won't be available until the next major version, this might be > a workaround that you could use right now. This should be in the rotate tool. The grid is great, but sometimes I have some problems to align it properly. Rolf http://meetthegimp.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
Hi, On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 15:04 +0200, Maciej Pilichowski wrote: > In GIMP there is such feature as rotate. This is of course useful but > when correcting, you can say alignment, it is also useful to have > ability to rotate image in such way that some point would make > horizontal or vertical line. > > User would click on one point on the image, then click on the second > point, the dialog would appear and user would only select "horizontal > alignment" or "vertical alignment". And the rest would be the Gimp -- > it would rotate image in such way that those selected point would > make a (imaginary) line. This has been suggested every so often already. What is missing is a patch that actually implements it. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
saulgo...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com wrote: Quoting Rob Antonishen : there is such a plugin. I think I saw it in the Meet the Gimp forums. I wrote the following script a while back for a coin collector who wanted to easily crop his scans and rotate them so that the coin was oriented properly. The interface I used was to click-drag a path from the top of the coin to the bottom. The resulting path had only one anchor (at the coin's top) but the control handle was used as the second point. The script would require some modification but might provide a kludgy functionality for those needing it. http://flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com/GIMP/Scripts/sg-rotate-to-path-points.scm A discussion over the evolution of the script took place on the GIMPtalk forums: http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/-script-fu-efficient-rotating-&-cropping-tool-t32052.html-st=0&sk=t&sd=a Not sure whether its transient or permanent but above URL gives: SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ] Table './gimptalk_lbsql/phpbb_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired [145] An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists. I found it in Google-cache at: http://tinyurl.com/qsoekx or: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=clnk&cd=1&url=h ttp%3A%2F%2F74.125.95.132%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3A_D5mPzozc2I J%3Awww.gimptalk.com%2Fforum%2F-script-fu-efficient-rotating -%2526-cropping-tool-t32052.html%2Bscript-fu%2Befficient%2Bc ropping%2Brotating%2Btool%26cd%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk&ei= -AcNSs6-HZvMMIzdnLcG&usg=AFQjCNEPHJMcZdNESQ2G7123a3IN04Uh0w& sig2=rYkYIcfwZHEse-9-8zvxaA I grabbed your script from flashingtwelve.brickfilms URL above, set a path with Path tool and when I ran it (GIMP 2.6.6 - Windows XP SP3) got this in the error console: GIMP Error Calling error for procedure 'gimp-image-crop': Procedure 'gimp-image-crop' has been called with value '-160' for argument 'offx' (#4, type GimpInt32). This value is out of range. GIMP Warning Plug-In 'Rotate To Path Point' left image undo in inconsistent state, closing open undo groups. GIMP Error Execution error for 'Rotate To Path Point': Error: Procedure execution of gimp-image-crop failed on invalid input arguments: Procedure 'gimp-image-crop' has been called with value '-160' for argument 'offx' (#4, type GimpInt32). This value is out of range. I notice that at the bottom of the original conversation the OP (StefanP) has a recent unanswered problem (Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:18 am) after updating to GIMP 2.6 (not exactly the same error as I got): It is me again. After upgrading to Ubuntu 9.04 and Gimp 2.6 I am now getting the following error after setting the path and executing the script: Execution error for 'Rotate To Path Point': Error: Bad syntax of binding spec in let* : ((vectors) (stroke-id) (points) (x1) (y1) (x2) (y2) (center-x) (center-y) (radius) (angle) (foo (car (gimp-image-get-filename image -- Regards ... Alec (bura...@gmail & WinLiveMess - alec.m.burg...@skype) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
Quoting Rob Antonishen : > there is such a plugin. I think I saw it in the Meet the Gimp forums. I wrote the following script a while back for a coin collector who wanted to easily crop his scans and rotate them so that the coin was oriented properly. The interface I used was to click-drag a path from the top of the coin to the bottom. The resulting path had only one anchor (at the coin's top) but the control handle was used as the second point. The script would require some modification but might provide a kludgy functionality for those needing it. http://flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com/GIMP/Scripts/sg-rotate-to-path-points.scm A discussion over the evolution of the script took place on the GIMPtalk forums: http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/-script-fu-efficient-rotating-&-cropping-tool-t32052.html-st=0&sk=t&sd=a ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
there is such a plugin. I think I saw it in the Meet the Gimp forums. -Rob A> On 5/14/09, Akkana Peck wrote: > Jay Smith writes: >> My desire would be for: >> >>click (on first point) >>click (on second point to finish the line) >>do a keystroke command that can be accomplished with ONE hand >> to execute the task (I would prefer not to have to hit the Enter >> key) > > You could perhaps do this with a plug-in: > > - Use the Paths tool > - Click on first point, then on second point > (now you have a straight-line path with two endpoints) > - Run a plug-in (which you can assign to any key you like) > that gets the current path endpoints, rotates the current layer > the appropriate amount, then deletes the path. > > It would be an easy plug-in to write. You would stay in the Paths > tool and not have to switch tools at all. Would that do what you want? > > It would still be a useful feature to add to the Rotate tool, and > that discussion should continue; but since any change to a tool > won't be available until the next major version, this might be > a workaround that you could use right now. > > ...Akkana > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer > -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:46:23 Akkana Peck wrote: > You could perhaps do this with a plug-in: > > - Use the Paths tool > - Click on first point, then on second point > (now you have a straight-line path with two endpoints) > - Run a plug-in (which you can assign to any key you like) > that gets the current path endpoints, rotates the current layer > the appropriate amount, then deletes the path. > It would be an easy plug-in to write. You would stay in the Paths > tool and not have to switch tools at all. Would that do what you > want? I guess it would be possible to assign two shortcuts, one for horizontal alignment, the second for the vertical. Looks great for me. Cheers, ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
Jay Smith writes: > My desire would be for: > >click (on first point) >click (on second point to finish the line) >do a keystroke command that can be accomplished with ONE hand > to execute the task (I would prefer not to have to hit the Enter > key) You could perhaps do this with a plug-in: - Use the Paths tool - Click on first point, then on second point (now you have a straight-line path with two endpoints) - Run a plug-in (which you can assign to any key you like) that gets the current path endpoints, rotates the current layer the appropriate amount, then deletes the path. It would be an easy plug-in to write. You would stay in the Paths tool and not have to switch tools at all. Would that do what you want? It would still be a useful feature to add to the Rotate tool, and that discussion should continue; but since any change to a tool won't be available until the next major version, this might be a workaround that you could use right now. ...Akkana ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
Playing with this I found an issue. Please confirm if the following is a windows only issue: When using the measure tool with Use Info Window checked (does it have any use otherwise?) The info box gets focus, so I can no longer use key shortcuts to get other tools. -Rob A> On 5/14/09, Jay Smith wrote: > On 05/14/2009 12:36 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: >> Jay Smith wrote: >>> However, I do have to say that the Photoshop 5.5 feature of simply >>> drawing a line with the measure tool and then doing the rotate command >>> is more efficient. >>> >> >> Using the measure tool for this seems like a UI hack to me. IMO we need >> a better solution for GIMP, something that is more discoverable. >> >> / Martin > > Martin, > > That is a very good point. > > I have to admit that I was using Photoshop for a couple of _years_ and > had done perhaps 20,000 rotations before I learned about that method > (and I found out from a friend, not from the program's help or manual, > though it was probably documented). > > In any case, the same concept (preferably with BOTH method possible: > draw a line or click start, click end) in a more discoverable way would > sure be great. > > Jay > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer > -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:00:22 Jay Smith wrote: > We use this Gimp feature on virtually every image we create, > sometimes _hundreds_ per day. > > Once we originally set the number of lines in the grid, we have > felt no need to make a change for months ... thousands of images. I can say only from my experience that measuring rotation by grids is tricky, and while the number of the lines is the same for me too, but the grid itself is not that helpful because I have to do "alignment" by myself (maybe 0.1 more? or less? and so on). > I would like to see this feature _added_ to Gimp, while still > retaining the grid mechanism also. Of course. > My desire would be for: > >click (on first point) >click (on second point to finish the line) >do a keystroke command that can be accomplished with ONE hand > to execute the task (I would prefer not to have to hit the > Enter key) +1 vote, that is what I wished for. Cheers, ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:51 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote: > > > Go to tool options, choose "corrective mode" and preview "grid". > > Now, align the grid with the item in your picture that you want to > > be horizontal or vertical, and click rotate. > > In fact every time you will also need to create a different number of > grid lines so that one of them would be as close as possible to a > potentially horizontal/vertical feature. Straightening with a line the > way Maciej described it would make it much easier. Agreed, just wanted to make sure Maciej knew what we already have. Actually, paintShopPro lets you draw a line, and PhotoShop lets you rotate to an angled guide, but, except for the difficulty of aligning the grid, which I see as a separate issue, the GIMP approach is vastly superior, because you can check alignment against several parts of the image, both horizontal and vertical. But yes, it needs to be streamlined, you are right. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On 05/14/2009 12:36 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > Jay Smith wrote: >> However, I do have to say that the Photoshop 5.5 feature of simply >> drawing a line with the measure tool and then doing the rotate command >> is more efficient. >> > > Using the measure tool for this seems like a UI hack to me. IMO we need > a better solution for GIMP, something that is more discoverable. > > / Martin Martin, That is a very good point. I have to admit that I was using Photoshop for a couple of _years_ and had done perhaps 20,000 rotations before I learned about that method (and I found out from a friend, not from the program's help or manual, though it was probably documented). In any case, the same concept (preferably with BOTH method possible: draw a line or click start, click end) in a more discoverable way would sure be great. Jay ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
Jay Smith wrote: > However, I do have to say that the Photoshop 5.5 feature of simply > drawing a line with the measure tool and then doing the rotate command > is more efficient. > Using the measure tool for this seems like a UI hack to me. IMO we need a better solution for GIMP, something that is more discoverable. / Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
> It's a horrible trick. You would probably never guess if you weren't > told how it works or read about it somewhere. So what? It wouldn't hurt anybody either. It would presumably be trivial to implement and it wouldn't require any new UI. --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Henk Boom wrote: > What if the going into the rotation tool from the measure tool set the > default rotation? Then you could do shift-M, drag the line, shift-R, > then confirm. Don't know how learnable this would be, though. It's a horrible trick. You would probably never guess if you weren't told how it works or read about it somewhere. Alexandre ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Jay Smith wrote: >> In fact every time you will also need to create a different number of >> grid lines so that one of them would be as close as possible to a >> potentially horizontal/vertical feature. Straightening with a line the >> way Maciej described it would make it much easier. > > Alexandre, > > We use this Gimp feature on virtually every image we create, sometimes > _hundreds_ per day. > > Once we originally set the number of lines in the grid, we have felt no > need to make a change for months ... thousands of images. "Your mileage may vary" pretty much covers this :) > And I do like the suggestion of clicking on the first point and then the > second point, rather than having to draw a line as in Photoshop. > > I would like to see this feature _added_ to Gimp, while still retaining > the grid mechanism also. > > My desire would be for: > > click (on first point) > click (on second point to finish the line) > do a keystroke command that can be accomplished with ONE hand > to execute the task (I would prefer not to have to hit the Enter > key) Agreed. However, if you choose something over Enter that would be inconsistent with the rest of tools :) Alexandre ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
2009/5/14 Maciej Pilichowski : > On Thursday 14 May 2009 15:26:46 Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: > >> I've always just used the measure tool to tell me what the angle is >> and rotate by that angle. I'm sure your suggestion would make it >> faster, but not by much. > > I think it would be much straightforward (less thinking) -- "I want to > make the line from here to there horizontal/vertical; end". > > In comparison -- you have to make the same steps, but additionally you > have to select another tool and type in the values you see on the > screen. > > One rotation per day, ok, but ~100 rotations a day, it is significant > boost, because it means ~500 keystrokes less (and less focus, you > have to pay attention each time you type the values). So, I think you > would be less tired with the tool as I proposed after working with > the images. What if the going into the rotation tool from the measure tool set the default rotation? Then you could do shift-M, drag the line, shift-R, then confirm. Don't know how learnable this would be, though. Henk ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On 05/14/2009 11:51 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote: > >> Go to tool options, choose "corrective mode" and preview "grid". >> Now, align the grid with the item in your picture that you want to >> be horizontal or vertical, and click rotate. > > In fact every time you will also need to create a different number of > grid lines so that one of them would be as close as possible to a > potentially horizontal/vertical feature. Straightening with a line the > way Maciej described it would make it much easier. > > Alexandre Alexandre, We use this Gimp feature on virtually every image we create, sometimes _hundreds_ per day. Once we originally set the number of lines in the grid, we have felt no need to make a change for months ... thousands of images. However, I do have to say that the Photoshop 5.5 feature of simply drawing a line with the measure tool and then doing the rotate command is more efficient. And I do like the suggestion of clicking on the first point and then the second point, rather than having to draw a line as in Photoshop. I would like to see this feature _added_ to Gimp, while still retaining the grid mechanism also. My desire would be for: click (on first point) click (on second point to finish the line) do a keystroke command that can be accomplished with ONE hand to execute the task (I would prefer not to have to hit the Enter key) That would be most efficient. Jay ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote: > Go to tool options, choose "corrective mode" and preview "grid". > Now, align the grid with the item in your picture that you want to > be horizontal or vertical, and click rotate. In fact every time you will also need to create a different number of grid lines so that one of them would be as close as possible to a potentially horizontal/vertical feature. Straightening with a line the way Maciej described it would make it much easier. Alexandre ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 15:51 +0200, Maciej Pilichowski wrote: [..] > I think it would be much straightforward (less thinking) -- "I want to > make the line from here to there horizontal/vertical; end". Go to tool options, choose "corrective mode" and preview "grid". Now, align the grid with the item in your picture that you want to be horizontal or vertical, and click rotate. You can change the number of grid lines, or the grid line spacing, and sometimes the grid will happen to line up exactly with the feature in your picture. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On Thursday 14 May 2009 15:26:46 Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: > I've always just used the measure tool to tell me what the angle is > and rotate by that angle. I'm sure your suggestion would make it > faster, but not by much. I think it would be much straightforward (less thinking) -- "I want to make the line from here to there horizontal/vertical; end". In comparison -- you have to make the same steps, but additionally you have to select another tool and type in the values you see on the screen. One rotation per day, ok, but ~100 rotations a day, it is significant boost, because it means ~500 keystrokes less (and less focus, you have to pay attention each time you type the values). So, I think you would be less tired with the tool as I proposed after working with the images. Cheers, ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 03:04:27PM +0200, Maciej Pilichowski wrote: > > This would be much faster comparing to showing the grid and checking > if the grid matches the lines on the image. I am of course wishing for > adding another way to do rotation, not to replace any of the method. I've always just used the measure tool to tell me what the angle is and rotate by that angle. I'm sure your suggestion would make it faster, but not by much. Jeff -- "The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them." -- Mark Twain signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation
Hi, In GIMP there is such feature as rotate. This is of course useful but when correcting, you can say alignment, it is also useful to have ability to rotate image in such way that some point would make horizontal or vertical line. User would click on one point on the image, then click on the second point, the dialog would appear and user would only select "horizontal alignment" or "vertical alignment". And the rest would be the Gimp -- it would rotate image in such way that those selected point would make a (imaginary) line. This would be much faster comparing to showing the grid and checking if the grid matches the lines on the image. I am of course wishing for adding another way to do rotation, not to replace any of the method. Kind regards, PS. I am posting it here instead of bugzilla because I was asked every time to do so. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
