[Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-25 Thread jolie
Hi Jolie, I like your tutorials, just found them on the mailing list. Much better than the stuff I saw up to now on YouTube. I am making Meet the GIMP, a (more ore less) weekly video podcast about GIMP and other Open Source graphics software. I am doing this for 2 1/2 years now and still have

[Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-23 Thread Mickey B.
On 1/22/2010 9:48 AM, Deniz Dogan wrote: snip It didn't take me long at all to become productive in GIMP and I'm still learning! I'm in no way a professional, I mainly do web design using GIMP (which can be a pain at sometimes because it doesn't have layer groups like Photoshop). Try out

[Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread BGP
I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date and they usually tell you to click something that isn't even present in

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Olivier Lecarme
BGP bigsk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? GIMP is a very powerful and complex tool, and thus you cannot master it in a few minutes.

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/22/10, BGP wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? Learning is something you never stop to do. If you stopped learning, you are dead and the coffin

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Jay Smith
On 01/22/2010 09:58 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 1/22/10, BGP wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? Learning is something you never stop to do.

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/22/10, BGP wrote: Learning is something you never stop to do. If you stopped learning, you are dead and the coffin with your body is about to be put six feet underground. Never heard that one before. Now you have :) For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date Did you read

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/22/10, Jay Smith wrote: While the responses to the original poster are surely technically correct, the original poster _does_ have a legitimate point. It might actually be easier for a person to learn Gimp if they have never used another image editing program. However, for people who

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Norman Silverstone
I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date and they usually tell you to click something that isn't even

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Deniz Dogan
2010/1/22 BGP bigsk...@gmail.com: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use.  But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date and they usually tell you to click

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/22/10, Jay Smith wrote: While long-time users and the developers of Gimp may not feel like Gimp should be treated as a product, the reality is that any new user looking at Gimp is going to make choices and decisions that are product choice decisions. Denial of that fact is complete

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/22/2010 9:48 AM, Deniz Dogan wrote: snip It didn't take me long at all to become productive in GIMP and I'm still learning! I'm in no way a professional, I mainly do web design using GIMP (which can be a pain at sometimes because it doesn't have layer groups like Photoshop). Try out

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/22/10, Programmer In Training wrote: My favorite tool right now is the fractal explorer. Don't forget to write a tutorial :-P Alexandre ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/22/2010 10:12 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 1/22/10, Programmer In Training wrote: My favorite tool right now is the fractal explorer. Don't forget to write a tutorial :-P I've thought about it. I was going to start doing so for Renderosity (they have nothing for GIMP users

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:41 AM, BGP bigsk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? It depends what you mean by learn how to use it. GIMP is

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Ken Warner
I'm guessing that there are very few people who know how to use every feature of GIMP. And probably even fewer that actually use every feature of GIMP in whatever task they do. You can learn what you need to do with a little work and not a lot of time once you get the idea of layers and channels

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Claus Cyrny
Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:41 AM, BGP bigsk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? It depends what you mean by

[Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread jolie
I can't read the original message. I'm posting from gimpusers.com and it's not available from there. But if I'm not mistaken the complaint was that GIMP was hard to learn and part of the problem was tutorials being out of date. There's plenty if you know where to find them. I posted this earlier

Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint

2010-01-22 Thread Michaela Baulderstone
[mailto:gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Claus Cyrny Sent: Saturday, 23 January 2010 8:29 AM To: Paul Hartman Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:41 AM, BGP mailto:bigsk...@gmail.com bigsk