Re: [Gimp-user] Post GIMP File Management, Organizing & Viewing/Simpler Alternatives & Options PLEASE READ & HELP!!! How Make .JPG Files More Like Tiles or Icons. Once Moved They Stay Set
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:20:22PM -0400, Jay Smith wrote: > I believe that the custom on such lists is to add new content at the > bottom. That way, the whole series of messages can be read from top > to bottom and be in order. Actually, it's significantly better if post inline, or at the bottom after trimming the message to leave only the part you are specifically replying to. Don't cut out too much context, but don't force people to scroll through the entire previous conversation. I have (and/or the online archives have) the previous messages if I need to refer to them. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Commercial use of GIMP
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 09:42:31PM -0700, B. Jack wrote: > The main exception might be if a company provides a paid-subscription-only > network service that communicates with a GIMP plugin released under AFERO > license then said company would need to provide all subscribers with the > source code that implements the paid service being used. If the plugin is > integrated tightly enough derivative work copyright rules come into play > and the whole integrated system source may need to be released to satisfy > the license. AFERO is more restrictive than plain GPL. But this is still not an exception to commercial use. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Commercial use of GIMP
On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 09:31:18PM +0100, Krzysiek Olak wrote: > Dear support GIMP, > Can I use GIMP commercially? Thanks in advance for your reply. Gimp is Free Software, in the larger sense of the word free. One of the freedoms _any_ free software license follows is the freedom to run the program for any purpose. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Does GIMP Support RAW Images?
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 05:34:36PM -0500, Kasim Ahmic wrote: > I've recently been looking into getting a Canon EOS Rebel T3. I noticed > that it can take RAW images and I was just wondering if GIMP supports > that. GIMP doesn't have RAW support directly. There is a UFRaw plugin, but you may be better served by a dedicated RAW converter such as RawTherapee, DarkTable, or LightZone. (These are all free and open source.) If you need to do touch-up work after raw conversion, you can export a TIFF file and import that into Gimp. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 09:47:46PM +0800, Øyvind Kolås wrote: > When such changes have landed in a stable release; there has been a > quite long period of feedback from the users that follow development > more closely than the users that only use stable versions of GIMP. So, that's me, for example. > This is also the reason that core GIMP contributors consider this > discussion to already be done and dealt with before it flared up and > trolls are keeping it artificially alive. The self selected beta > testers that are willing to use the development version and work out > problems during active development have a larger influence on > decisions. These are also the users it makes most sense for the > developers to spend their volunteered time communicating with – since > these users directly contribute to finding bugs and potential problems > early. That doesn't appear to have been the case here. I brought this up during the 2.7.x development series, and was told that it had already been decided. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 02:43:12PM +0100, Simon Budig wrote: > What would you say to > >"We did it this way for reasons x, y, and z, but we recognize that >what you're asking isn't like the broken spacebar comic. You have >options a and b now, and we're thinking about some even better >approaches in the future, but we won't revert to the old behaviour." > > Because this is what we said in the past. Over and over again. I would say: okay, cool. But that's not what I've been seeing. It's largely along the lines of "you just don't understand that your way causes data loss". The current "options a and b" have a lot of rough edges. The Export Clean script makes the UI have even more cluttered "save" options, and it doesn't re-prompt for JPEG options, which I very much want it to do. And Overwrite is pretty close, but it doesn't mark images as clean, so I get confused about what I've saved already. I can live with those things, but I hate to have to explain them to other people. So, sure. I'd also like to hear more about the ideas for better approaches in the future. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 09:47:10PM +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > I don't use the word flippantly, but it seems odd to me how many users seem > to feel devs owe them something (explanations, time, respect). Where's that > entitlement come from? In open source, developers and users should be on the same side. Many times, there is some "flow" between the two groups. With commercial software, the relationship is explicitly one of commerce and market dynamics. With open source, when functional at least, the whole community is important. So, while you certainly get a number of obnoxious people with an over-wrought sense of entitlement, not all feedback along these lines is that way. I share what I think not because I can't work around it, but because the new "enforced" workflow is more difficult for me and I think more difficult for others, to the detriment of the software as a whole. I don't presume any right to demand anything, but designers and developers who don't listen to their engaged, active, and concerned users are missing something valuable. If the same thing keeps coming up over and over again to the point where everyone is tired of it and very frustrated, maybe it's time to step back and rethink a little bit. Someone a while ago had the suggestion of building "sidecar" files with the entire undo history of an image. As storage space continues to increase, that sounds like a very promising path providing best of all worlds. I mean, sure, the developers are perfectly fine in saying "no, we're gonna do it this way", but it's also short-sighted to say "and stop giving feedback". It seems better to say "We did it this way for reasons x, y, and z, but we recognize that what you're asking isn't like the broken spacebar comic. You have options a and b now, and we're thinking about some even better approaches in the future." That's not a sign of weakness. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:54:41AM +0100, Daniel Hornung wrote: > I can't believe this was not brought up by someone already... > https://xkcd.com/1172/ So, okay: should the response to that person be: - You should get longer fingers or: - Okay, so you won't be able to do that anymore, but here's how to remap keys in a supported way which will get you want you want ? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CR2 files
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 06:11:09PM -0700, Gary Aitken wrote: > >> You need either the dcraw or ufraw plug-in for GIMP. I prefer the > >> dcraw plug-in. The ufraw plug-in has too many options about what > >> should be done to the image when it is loaded. I don't know what I > >> might want/need to do to the image until after I load it and look at > >> it. > > So, the downside of this approach is that the decisions you make *during* > > RAW conversion are generally lossless operations; you can go back and do > > them differently with no destruction of data. If you start from a file > > converted in a certain way, you've already lost a lot of flexibility. > Whoa! :-) That is hardly a downside. RAW conversion is something you can > dorepeatedly without degrading the image, as it always starts from the > original > raw data and never modifies it. You don't need to do anything with the ufraw Let me clarify: it's a downside of doing a simple RAW conversion without "too many options" and taking the result into Gimp to do the bulk of the work. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CR2 files
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 03:03:38PM -0500, Kevin Cozens wrote: > >I photographed the aurora while living in Alaska in RAW format which > >produces a CR2 extension. Why will GIMP not open these photos? > You need either the dcraw or ufraw plug-in for GIMP. I prefer the > dcraw plug-in. The ufraw plug-in has too many options about what > should be done to the image when it is loaded. I don't know what I > might want/need to do to the image until after I load it and look at > it. So, the downside of this approach is that the decisions you make *during* RAW conversion are generally lossless operations; you can go back and do them differently with no destruction of data. If you start from a file converted in a certain way, you've already lost a lot of flexibility. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] CR2 files
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 02:36:51PM -0500, Denise Hamilton wrote: > I photographed the aurora while living in Alaska in RAW format which > produces a CR2 extension. Why will GIMP not open these photos? Are there > plans to expand GIMP to access these file types? CR2 files are a type of RAW, and Gimp doesn't handle RAW files. There is a UFRaw plugin for gimp (as just discussed on the gimp-developer list), but you may be better served by a dedicated RAW converter such as RawTherapee, DarkTable, or LightZone. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] I'm finding it hard to work with brush sizes in 2.8
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 08:55:55PM +0200, Ville Sokk wrote: > > The new dialog devotes the left 5% of the slider to this range. I know there > > was some talk about changing this slider to be logarithmic. Is there any > > progress on that? > I don't know if you noticed but the slider has a top and bottom part. > The cursor changes when you hover. The top part is used for large > changes and the bottom for fine tuning. Yeah, but with it so small, I get "large changes" as effectively random numbers of 1.0, 7.24, 13.49, 19.73, 25.98, 32.22, 38.46, depending on which of those six pixels I hit. More often I'm getting 88 or 200 or 400 or something first. The fine tuning lets me adjust increments from there, but is only really useful if I hit the right number first, and it's hard to scale *down* because my mouse hits the right side of the screen. (Better if I don't maximize the window, but that's silly.) The best approach I've found is to use a brush with a native size of around 5, and then aways start by hitting the reset size button and adjusting up from there using the fine-tuning. That's pretty silly but is less frustrating than the alternative. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] I'm finding it hard to work with brush sizes in 2.8
sizes varying between about 5 and 50 pixels, with relatively high precision. The new dialog devotes the left 5% of the slider to this range. I know there was some talk about changing this slider to be logarithmic. Is there any progress on that? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Cannot Open jpegs/jpgs in GIMP
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 06:40:53PM -0800, Robert wrote: > I have a Fedora 17 distro installed on a couple of different > machines. I am unable to open pictures and scans, I have, which are > in 'jpeg/jpg' format. I understand the saving/exporting thing, but > I am unable to even open them. > I am using Kernel 3.6.6-1.fc17.x86_64 and Gnome 3.4.2. The > version of Gimp I am using is 2.8.2-6.fc17. I have been unable to > get any assistance from the Fedora forums and/or bugzilla on this > matter. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Can you post a sample photo somewhere? (Also, what's the fedora bug #?) -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Questions about gimp compairing gimp to PS
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:53:42PM +0100, MasterRahl wrote: > #1: in over all view how does gimp stack up to Photoshop and all of its > features, are they compairable? to each other. I've tried to answer this from a photography point of view here http://photo.stackexchange.com/a/7691/1943 as fairly as possible. (If there's anything missing or which should be corrected, let me know.) This is aimed squarely at photography, though; graphic design or image creation and related features aren't considered. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] why no compiled version for Ubuntu 11.10
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 05:40:44AM +0100, mamboze wrote: > Ok, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 and I have GIMP 2.6.11 I well understand > that this is the version currently available from the Ubuntu Software > Center and doing a "sudo apt-get install gimp" tells me I have the latest > version already installed. So I think that kind of covers points 1 and 2 > in the above. > > And while we're talking about 'basic' facts, what I was commenting on was the > 'basic' fact that while users on other platforms have access to GIMP 2.8 > binaries, Ubuntu users (particularly 11.10) do not. Why? Because that's the version of Gimp that's tested and built with that version of the operating system. If you want a newer version of Gimp, use a newer Ubuntu or a faster-moving Linux. Or, if you're feeling adventurous, you could enable a PPA. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] why no compiled version for Ubuntu 11.10
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 05:13:49AM +0100, mamboze wrote: > I find it strange that while compiled (binaries) of GIMP are provided for Mac > and Windows users, Ubuntu users are rather abruptly advised to compile from > source themselves. I can do this I suppose with some effort but the question I > have is, why the discrimination against Ubuntu and other Linux users? Do I > need > to remind you guys that a lot of support for GIMP has come from the open > source > community? As much as I'd like to tell you "Hey, switch to Fedora, because we've got it", the basic fact is that: 1. So does Ubuntu: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gimp/ and 2. The gimp docs clearly tell you how to install it for multiple Linux distributions. http://www.gimp.org/downloads/ The fundamental difference here isn't that Windows and Mac get special treatment. Instead, it's that with most Linux distributions, it's *built in*. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Business license
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 11:59:06AM -0600, Daniel Smith wrote: > Unless your business is to sell Gimp in some way, but even then no > fees i believe, just the licensing part. Right -- even then, you don't have to pay any fees, but you do need to follow the GPL (including releasing source code for any changes you make). -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Business license
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 09:32:04AM -0800, Loi Duong wrote: > If I were to use GIMP in a business, do I have to pay any licensing fees? Absolutely not. Gimp is open source software, and there are no restrictions on use. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Disabling keyboard menu shortcuts
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 09:20:26PM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > Maybe there should be a toggle on the Configure Keyboard Shortcuts menu to > > handle this. > It sounds like a too much of a corner case for an option, IMHO. > > And certainly, if you reassign these keystrokes in the menu, > > their original function should be disabled. > Maybe :) Wouldn't it make most sense to unify the two, so that the menu selectors are configurable in the normal key shortcut dialog? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] finding layers after file has been closed
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 03:57:15PM -0500, jenn golden wrote: > I totally understood what you both said - but I didn't know that I had to > save it both ways - I only saved it, or exported it at a .jpg... Does that > mean I can't recover the .xcf? Right. Jpeg files don't keep layers. This is why the new 2.8 version of Gimp doesn't consider files saved as jpegs to be actually saved. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Sticky state of windows in Gimp 2.8
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 06:51:41PM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > I changed desktop this evening to GNOME and was not able to even find a way > > to > > get multiple workspaces. > How could that possibly even happen? That could possibly even happen because this: > When you go to Activities, you get an overview of all > workspaces/desktops along the right edge of the display. You can > navigate and drag/drop windows there. isn't necessarily obvious if you're used to the old way. Not that it's bad, just a change. Especially because those desktops aren't expanded by default. I find this shell extension helpful: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/503/always-zoom-workspaces/ -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] gimp 2.8.2: any way to have "advanced" always expanded in jpeg export?
I almost always want to at least review the advanced options when exporting to JPEG. In previous versions of Gimp, when the default options were saved, this included whether or not the advanced dropdown was... dropped down. Is there a way to replicate this behavior in the new version? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] gimp 2.8.2: any way to have "advanced" always expanded in jpeg export?
I almost always want to at least review the advanced options when exporting to JPEG. In previous versions of Gimp, when the default options were saved, this included whether or not the advanced dropdown was... dropped down. Is there a way to replicate this behavior in the new version? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
