Re: [Gimp-user] transition photoshop to gimp
Hi, The question isn't really if the workflow is nondestructive, but rather, to what extent. In GIMP you can paint nondestructively by using a new transparent layer. In photoshop you can do that and on top of that use layer effects/filters nondestructively. That is, afaik, not currently possible in GIMP. However, the big project the developers are working on right now is transitioning GIMP to a new core, called GEGL. With that, it should be possible to retroactively change pretty much anything you have done to the image, even far more than is possible with photoshop right now. But, as I said, it is a big project and we don't now when it will be done/released. Am 15.03.2014 17:04, schrieb crumpy_panda: Um... questions? well i didnt formulated them out... you are right ;) so one important one would be: Is there a hidden option for a complete non destructive worklfow ? like adjustment layers and non permanent filter in photoshop ? how important is a non destructive workflow for the developers ? are they aware that it isnt possible right now ? is it planned to get it implemented better ? the layer folders seem to be a neglected child.. why? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour
Am 04.12.2013 14:28, schrieb Simon Budig: Brendan Scott (disposableem...@apps.opensourcelaw.biz) wrote: What I have also said is that if the purpose of the distinction is to preserve work, it didn't serve that function for me. That suggests to me that the UI may need more thought. You ought to ask your question of someone else. To me it is entirely unclear, what in your workflow differenciates a good warning dialog from a bad warning dialog. Without a hint from you we're 100% in the Do-What-I-Mean-Button ballpark which is not really helping with the more thought we might need. I gathered from your mail, that you lost work because the save/export distinction conditioned you into clicking the warning away. So, if you don't want us to remove the warning, what are our options? Bye, Simon Based on the various mails on this topic (including I hate this, give me back my 2.6!) , I'd suggest this http://tobiaslunte.de/gummibaerchen/save_export_-_confirm_on_close.png [1] kind of closing-dialog. The stark contrast between the buttons and the subdued text gives an easy-to-grasp overview on which images have been saved/exported and the button allows the user to directly take the necessary actions. It could be argued whether the first example should be included considering the product vision; my suggestion would be only when export to/overwrite is populated. Of course this is up for debate, but you wanted a step out of the ballpark and here it is. In case anyone wants to edit the design, here http://tobiaslunte.de/gummibaerchen/save_export_-_confirm_on_close.xcf [2] is the corresponding xcf. -- A similar idea (including only the save-button so that one wouldn't have to go through the images one by one) has popped up before. Unfortunately I couldn't find the original mail in the archives, else I'd be happy to give credit where it's due. bw, Tobias Lunte // Tobl Links: -- [1] http://tobiaslunte.de/gummibaerchen/save_export_-_confirm_on_close.png [2] http://tobiaslunte.de/gummibaerchen/save_export_-_confirm_on_close.xcf ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mouse+Brush Cursor not responding
I have the same problem since 2.8, though not with a wacom, but with a hanvon-tablet. For me it helps to move the cursor onto one of the docks and reenter the image every time I switch pointing device. (Win7 64-bit, running gimp in 32-bit because of missing 64-bit driver for my tablet) (and yes, you should also give this info) bw, Tobias neuro for...@gimpusers.com wrote: When I move my mouse over my image the brush cursor is not moving and it will not let me click on my image (with the mouse) the crosshair/cursor will follow it, however the brush will not, nor will any other tools, my wacom tablet however works fine. I thought it must be something to do with GIMP accepting input but its not going as of yet. -- neuro (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list -- Sent from my Nokia 3310 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8 Control Panels
* Mike Armistead m...@mikearmistead.com [08-22-13 11:24]: I have downloaded several iterations of Gimp 2.8, now up to 2.8.6, and all I get is a blank screen with the menu bar at the top (and the Gimp logo in the background). I don't see any of the toolbars or control panels that all tutorials show as being part of Gimp 2.8. The only toolbar I can pull up is the tall narrow one under tools that just has the basic functions of older versions of Gimp. Am I doing something wrong or is there some kind of block on my computer? I'm using Windows 7 64-bit OS. I also have Adaptable Gimp 2.6.10 on my computer - could that be interfering with anything? Anything is possible, expecially in windows environment. What exactly is Adaptable Gimp as that name is foriegn, gimp is gimp. First thing I would try is *completely* removing Adaptable Gimp, including its personal configuration files. Remove *all* of gimp also. Then reinstall gimp and see what you get. gud luk, Before that, try hitting Tab (hides/shows all active docks) or adding in the control panels from windows-dockable dialogs (or similar, don't have a gimp around here) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Clone tool not working
Am 14.07.2013 04:07, schrieb Sanjib Sikder: When using the paintbrush-tool, ctrl-clicking should function as a color-picker. Does that work? No that does not work. Then it seems that your gimp-installation doesn't accept ctrl-clicking on the canvas on general. At this point, this is completely above me, but maybe someone else can think of something with this info. bw, Tobl ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Clone tool not working
Am 13.07.2013 22:27, schrieb Sanjib Sikder: Hi, I am using GIMP 2.8.2 on Ubuntu 12.10. The clone tool seems broken. It can not recognize the CTRL+left click. I have tried with setting different key, which also does not work. It always says Ctrl-click to set a new clone source Doing that says set a source image first How do I solve it ? I have searched Google for a solution for long time and have seen that few other users also faced the similar issue several times. But I cud not find a solution which worked for me . Thanks - *SS** * ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list When using the paintbrush-tool, ctrl-clicking should function as a color-picker. Does that work? bw, Tobl ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Image Area doesn't respond to mouse.
Am 13.07.2013 22:17, schrieb ArRaf: Help me. I am new at GIMP and installed the 2.8 today. After I run it and create new, I can click on the tools, layer windows, and the pattern and gradients normally(Like how I saw in online videos), but I can't click on the image/canvas area in the main window. I can click on the menu bar at the main window, but not the image. I have tried all tools, but alas it doesn't affect the image. ...and it seems the cursor location at the lower left corner isn't updated. Reminds me of when tablets aren't recognized, though i've never heard of it with the normal mousepointer. Try opening edit-input devices and check if core pointer can be found there; its mode should be set to screen. Don't know if, but hope this helps. bw, Tobl ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Image Area doesn't respond to mouse.
Am 13.07.2013 22:48, schrieb ArRaf: Hi, thanks for the reply. I am actually using a tablet, I typed mouse for easier term. I've opened EditInput devices just like you said. The core pointer is there and it has already been set to screen, but it still hasn't work. Is there anything else? I would appreciate it. if you're using a tablet, there should be other entries in the menu as well, representing different parts of the tablet (stylus, eraser, buttons, etc. ; though they may not be labeled as obviously). Try setting the one for the stylus to screen. Also, make sure you have used your tablet before starting gimp (for example by using the stylus to launch gimp), or else it won't get recognized by the program. bw, Tobl ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gifquestion
When exporting the .gif, change Frame disposal where unspecified to one frame per layer (replace). It's two different ways of rendering .gif and the other one can reduce the file size, but replace is the behaviour most people will expect. maybe it's worth thinking about if it should be defaulted in upcoming releases. bw, Tobl Am 28.05.2013 03:09, schrieb Kazuki Takahashi: well i seem to be having a problem, i know how to make a transparent image in gimp, and i know how to make gifs in gimp, but if the background is transparent on the gifs, it shows the previous layer on the gif, how do i fix that? p.s whenever i edit gifs, they turn out just fine, but I want to make my own so... ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Adesso CyberTablet 12000 on Windows
Hello, If you're using 64-bit windows, try this solution Jernej Simonc(ic( has offered when the question came up earlier on this mailing list: Try this: uninstall GIMP 2.8, then run the 2.8.2 installer with /32 parameter (to do this, press the Windows key and R on keyboard, so that the Run dialog opens; then click Browse and find gimp-2.8.2-setup.exe; back in the Run dialog add a space and /32 at the end of Open field and click OK). This'll install 32-bit version of GIMP instead of 64-bit one if you have 64-bit Windows. If the tablet works now, you should contact the manufacturer, and request 64-bit drivers for the tablet. I wasn't the OP back then, but I had other non-wacom-tablet-problems, which could be resolved this way. bw, Tobl ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Symmetrical drawing
Am 07.04.2013 15:31, schrieb Steve Kinney: On 04/06/2013 02:28 PM, Christopher Draper wrote: Is there a way to do symmetrical drawing on GIMP? Um... copy a layer or selection, flip it left/right or up/down, and mask half of it out? I think he's talking about real-time and I'm afraid it isn't possible in gimp, sorry. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP dotted lines
how can I draw in GIMP freehanded *_curved_* interrupted lines (dotted; dot-dash-dot; dash-dash;...) ? Hello, I guess you want to draw them freehanded as in just like the paintbrush tool. If you want to do dotted lines (as opposed to dashed ones), you can quite easily use the paintbrushitself. Just open the brushes dialog (ctrl+shift+B or windows-dockable dialogues- brushes)and select a round,(almost) hard brush. Look at the bottom of the dialogue: there you'll find a slider called 'spacing', set it to somewhere around 200 to 300 (thesofter the brush, the lower the spacing; very soft brushes might only require around 100). Nowyou can just draw with your paintbrush (or pencil) as you're used to and it will give you a nice, evenly dotted line. dashed or dot-dashed lines could also be created with paintbrush and pencil, but would require custom brushes. bw, Tobias Lunte//Tobl ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Creating Transparent Text
I've created a quick screencap. Hopefully, this will clear any misunderstandings. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXKPKMiUko8 bw, Tobias Lunte//Tobl Am 19.02.2013 18:22, schrieb Helen: I guess I need more detail. I've done this, and I'm attaching the result. In case attachments aren't allowed, or you can't see it, I'll tell you that there is messy white space all the way around the sig. The steps I took were to open the scanned sig, copy, paste as brush, and then used it to sign a pix. White mess all around. Thanks for any help - I think I just need more detail. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net mailto:ad...@pilobilus.net wrote: On 02/19/2013 11:56 AM, Gunold Brunbauer wrote: Color - Color to Transparency a.k.a. Colors Color to Alpha :o) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org mailto:gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse11.4 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] newvie asks differences between Gimp and Photoshop
I'm sorry if you get this email twice, but it was returned to sender so I'm not sure which of the recipients haven't gotten it. -- Hello, These are some things that make it hard for me. The tool menus unlike PS are not a part of the main window and seem to be seperate windows on their own (2 of them) that is annoying You can turn on single-window mode mode by right-clicking - Windows - Single-Window Mode everytime I create a new area, (layer) it opens in yet another window, as does opening up another file. So if I'm trying to do a signature and I'm using 3 or even four items, I have that many seperate windows open. This isn't usual GIMP-behavior. You should check, whether you're actually creating new layers or new images. To do so, look at the layers-dialogue (usually located to the right of your canvas, you can also find it by pressing Ctrl+L). When you create a new layer (resulting in a new window being opened), are there two layers shown in the dialogue or is it actually a new stack of layers (= new image) with just one layer in it? Also the rectangular selection tool seems to be on all the time whether I select it or not. I've tried deleting the software and reinstalling but that doesn't work Do you mean all the time as in I cannot select i.e. the paintbrush tool? That would be some pretty serious bug, assuming you know basic point-and-click interaction. However, seeing how you're already talking about adding signatures and stuff, it seems more likely that you're confused by the rectangular select being the default tool which is active upon startup and often becomes the active tool after a task is performed. In Photoshop, the default tool is the move tool and you have to select the rect. select if you want to use it, in GIMP it's the other way around. It may seem unnatural to you due to what you're used too, but it's not better or worse than Photoshop's way (at least there haven't been any user studies about it) and I can guarantee you, that it's just as hard learning Photoshop after using GIMP as the other way around. Since there will be similar cases in the future, there is something that you should really try to understand: Despite being often described as such, GIMP is not Photoshop for free or Photoshop but not as powerful or otherwise like Photoshop. It is a bitmap-manipulation-program (actually an xcf-manipulation-program, but let's not dive into that), that is separate and different from Photoshop and therefore, some of the operational concepts are different from Photoshop's. Sometimes things won't be were they of course (also called: where you've been trained to expect them by your prior program usage) should be, and sometimes you'll be pleasantly surprised by how they are arranged in the GIMP. Switching to GIMP isn't 1:1, but if you accept that GIMP may follow other premises than Photoshop, and that those premises aren't automatically bad just because of that, getting used to them isn't really all that hard. So if everything goes right, this was at least a little helpful, bw, Tobias Lunte//Tobl ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] newvie asks differences between Gimp and Photoshop
Hello, These are some things that make it hard for me. The tool menus unlike PS are not a part of the main window and seem to be seperate windows on their own (2 of them) that is annoying You can turn on single-window mode mode by right-clicking - Windows - Single-Window Mode everytime I create a new area, (layer) it opens in yet another window, as does opening up another file. So if I'm trying to do a signature and I'm using 3 or even four items, I have that many seperate windows open. This isn't usual GIMP-behavior. You should check, whether you're actually creating new layers or new images. To do so, look at the layers-dialogue (usually located to the right of your canvas, you can also find it by pressing Ctrl+L). When you create a new layer (resulting in a new window being opened), are there two layers shown in the dialogue or is it actually a new stack of layers (= new image) with just one layer in it? Also the rectangular selection tool seems to be on all the time whether I select it or not. I've tried deleting the software and reinstalling but that doesn't work Do you mean all the time as in I cannot select i.e. the paintbrush tool? That would be some pretty serious bug, assuming you know basic point-and-click interaction. However, seeing how you're already talking about adding signatures and stuff, it seems more likely that you're confused by the rectangular select being the default tool which is active upon startup and often becomes the active tool after a task is performed. In Photoshop, the default tool is the move tool and you have to select the rect. select if you want to use it, in GIMP it's the other way around. It may seem unnatural to you due to what you're used too, but it's not better or worse than Photoshop's way (at least there haven't been any user studies about it) and I can guarantee you, that it's just as hard learning Photoshop after using GIMP as the other way around. Since there will be similar cases in the future, there is something that you should really try to understand: Despite being often described as such, GIMP is not Photoshop for free or Photoshop but not as powerful or otherwise like Photoshop. It is a bitmap-manipulation-program (actually an xcf-manipulation-program, but let's not dive into that), that is separate and different from Photoshop and therefore, some of the operational concepts are different from Photoshop's. Sometimes things won't be were they of course (also called: where you've been trained to expect them by your prior program usage) should be, and sometimes you'll be pleasantly surprised by how they are arranged in the GIMP. Switching to GIMP isn't 1:1, but if you accept that GIMP may follow other premises than Photoshop, and that those premises aren't automatically bad just because of that, getting used to them isn't really all that hard. So if everything goes right, this was at least a little helpful, bw, Tobias Lunte//Tobl ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] (no subject)
Hello, Yes, this is the right spot to ask questions about using gimp (though not as right a place as searching the internet beforehand). However, it's not entirely clear what it is exactly that you want to do, which, i guess, is why you didn't get much of an answer. My guess is that you're trying to take part of an image and move it to somewhere else in the same image. To do that you have to: 1. Select that part of your image (for example using the Rectangle-Tool that is automatically active when you start GIMP). 2. 'Select - Float' (or Ctrl+Shift+L). This will lift out the selected part from the rest of the image (into a temporary layer, if you're familiar with the concept) 3. You can now Drag'n'Drop the part wherever you want. 4. A single click outside the selection will anchor the selected part back to the rest of the image. Done. bw, Tobl Am 03.12.2012 00:33, schrieb Christopher Draper: I'm not sure if this is the right spot but how do I grab an image and move it around? -- Live like today like there is no tomorrow. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] double exposure
Hello, afaik, the Screen blend mode is a more accurate reproduction of a double exposure. However, it will brighten up your image, so if the two photos weren't underexposed to begin with (which they are when you actually make a double-exposure on film), you'll have to adjust the values. Don't worry, the Screen mode doesn't result in clipping, so usually you don't loose all that much information. bw, Tobl Am 04.11.2012 16:10, schrieb Richard Gitschlag: If it's the term I'm thinking of there are maybe twenty different ways to do this in GIMP. But all of them have one thing in common - you need to import both source images as separate layers in the same image window. From that point you can: 1 - Set the top layer's mode to either Brightest or Addition (neither one precisely reproduces an actual double exposure, but they're close) 2 - Keep the top layer's mode Normal and use the Eraser (or a layer mask) to fade the edges/transition between them. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:56:58 -0500 From: ellimae...@gmail.com To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: [Gimp-user] double exposure Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure effect? I can do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking pics. But was not sure if you can create the same digitally?? Thank you! Jenn ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
