Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-28 Thread uga...@talktalk.net
It wasn't me who first suggested modifying fonts.conf. Indeed, I am 
probably against this approach. 

I suggest it may be easier, (and as you know you can create 
collections, which is what I think you wished GIMP could do) to use 
OSX's Font Book.app to browse for a font, and then to use GIMP's text 
tool options to select it by entering its name (or part thereof) using 
the font selector's text-field selection tool.

-u

>Original Message
>From: for...@gimpusers.com
>Date: 28/03/2016 00:28
>To: 
>Cc: 
>Subj: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>
>>It isn't clear why you want to replace /Library/Fonts with
>>8/fonts as this file path is already defined in GIMP > Fonts > 
>>Font Folders preferences. 
>>
>>On OSX there are 4 default files paths in fonts.conf, which could be 
>>commented out. The fonts.config file is here: /Applications/GIMP.
>>app/Contents/Resources/etc/fonts. 
>>
>>However, GIMP will not display any fonts, unless you also e.g.
>>populate
>>/Users/your_user_name/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.8/fonts 
with 
>>some fonts.
>>8/fonts
>>Gimp)
>
>Hi Ugajin (hope I spelled that right),
>
>Thank you for the suggestion of looking in fonts.conf and possibly 
modifying
>that. I will try this idea.
>
>However, FYI, I have looked in both /Users/.../GIMP/2.8/fonts and in 
the GIMP
>Application Resources fonts file, and there are zero fonts in there. 
So even
>though both those folders are empty, GIMP is displaying all the fonts 
in
>/System/Library/Fonts/ and in /Library/Fonts/ -- or at least all the 
*active*
>fonts in those folders. I have used Font Boss to deactivate a bunch of 
fonts. I
>also used monolingual (or something like that name) to remove 
"everything" that
>was not English language, and I *think* it removed a bunch of Chinese 
and
>Japanese and miscellaneous non-Roman-alphabet fonts. Although it did 
keep the
>system fonts that are non-Roman-alphabet.
>
>Snowyn
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-27 Thread Michael Schumacher
Am 27.03.2016 um 07:27 schrieb MareroQ:
> Try it my way (it works for Windows - so maybe also for Mac).
> 
> Find the file fonts.conf (... / etc / fonts /)

Expanding on that - modifying the fontconfig settings is the way to go.

Instead of modifying the global configuration - which might be
overwritten by a new GIMP package - making changes to your own personal
fonts.conf file is more durable.

The docs intended for fontconfig users are located at
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html

In principle, you want something along the lines of



/usr/share/fonts/foo/*



or maybe a more fine-grained rejection based on font family names (or
other attributes):





bar





Examples taken from
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration#Whitelisting_and_blacklisting_fonts


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-27 Thread uga...@talktalk.net
I don't understand this.


>Original Message
>From: triariu...@gmail.com
>Date: 27/03/2016 15:49
>To: 
>Cc: "Snowyn", , 

>Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>
>Works in Yosemite, but I haven't downgraded to El Capitan yet.
>
>Ross
>
>On Mar 27, 2016, at 9:09 AM, uga...@talktalk.net wrote:
>
>> Quite: 'You can’t remove or disable system fonts. When you select a 
>> system font, both The Checkbox button and the Disable command in 
the 
>> Edit menu are dimmed.'
>> 
>>> Original Message
>>> From: triariu...@gmail.com
>>> Date: 27/03/2016 14:13
>>> To: 
>>> Cc: "Snowyn", , 
>> 
>>> Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>>> 
>>> Font Book allows you to turn fonts off, effectively removing them 
from 
>> application use.
>>> 
>>> Ross
>>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2016, at 3:25 AM, uga...@talktalk.net wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I did not suggest using Font Book.app to deactivate system files. 
I 
>>>> tried to say that removing fonts from /System/Library/Fonts is 
>>>> potentially harmful. I suggested using Font Book.app to browse, 
>>>> organise and/or manage your fonts. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Original Message
>>>>> From: triariu...@gmail.com
>>>>> Date: 27/03/2016 03:17
>>>>> To: "Snowyn"
>>>>> Cc: , 
>>>>> Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also as ugajin suggests, try using Font Book to deactivate 
system 
>>>> files, rather than removing them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ross
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Snowyn wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they 
are 
>>>> part
>>>>>>> of "core services." under current OS X versions these can only 
be
>>>>>>> altered by the administrative user account with authentication 
>> from
>>>>>>> Apple via an Apple ID, but it (supposedly) can be done.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ross
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you have any recommendations on how to get "authentication 
>> from 
>>>> Apple via an
>>>>>> Apple ID" or where I should post to get help from Apple on this?
>>>>>> 
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>> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-27 Thread Ross Martinek
Works in Yosemite, but I haven't downgraded to El Capitan yet.

Ross

On Mar 27, 2016, at 9:09 AM, uga...@talktalk.net wrote:

> Quite: 'You can’t remove or disable system fonts. When you select a 
> system font, both The Checkbox button and the Disable command in the 
> Edit menu are dimmed.'
> 
>> Original Message
>> From: triariu...@gmail.com
>> Date: 27/03/2016 14:13
>> To: 
>> Cc: "Snowyn", , 
> 
>> Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>> 
>> Font Book allows you to turn fonts off, effectively removing them from 
> application use.
>> 
>> Ross
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2016, at 3:25 AM, uga...@talktalk.net wrote:
>> 
>>> I did not suggest using Font Book.app to deactivate system files. I 
>>> tried to say that removing fonts from /System/Library/Fonts is 
>>> potentially harmful. I suggested using Font Book.app to browse, 
>>> organise and/or manage your fonts. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Original Message
>>>> From: triariu...@gmail.com
>>>> Date: 27/03/2016 03:17
>>>> To: "Snowyn"
>>>> Cc: , 
>>>> Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>>>> 
>>>> Also as ugajin suggests, try using Font Book to deactivate system 
>>> files, rather than removing them.
>>>> 
>>>> Ross
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Snowyn wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are 
>>> part
>>>>>> of "core services." under current OS X versions these can only be
>>>>>> altered by the administrative user account with authentication 
> from
>>>>>> Apple via an Apple ID, but it (supposedly) can be done.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ross
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you have any recommendations on how to get "authentication 
> from 
>>> Apple via an
>>>>> Apple ID" or where I should post to get help from Apple on this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
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>> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-27 Thread uga...@talktalk.net
Quite: 'You can’t remove or disable system fonts. When you select a 
system font, both The Checkbox button and the Disable command in the 
Edit menu are dimmed.'

>Original Message
>From: triariu...@gmail.com
>Date: 27/03/2016 14:13
>To: 
>Cc: "Snowyn", , 

>Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>
>Font Book allows you to turn fonts off, effectively removing them from 
application use.
>
>Ross
>
>On Mar 27, 2016, at 3:25 AM, uga...@talktalk.net wrote:
>
>> I did not suggest using Font Book.app to deactivate system files. I 
>> tried to say that removing fonts from /System/Library/Fonts is 
>> potentially harmful. I suggested using Font Book.app to browse, 
>> organise and/or manage your fonts. 
>> 
>> 
>>> Original Message----
>>> From: triariu...@gmail.com
>>> Date: 27/03/2016 03:17
>>> To: "Snowyn"
>>> Cc: , 
>>> Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>>> 
>>> Also as ugajin suggests, try using Font Book to deactivate system 
>> files, rather than removing them.
>>> 
>>> Ross
>>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Snowyn wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are 
>> part
>>>>> of "core services." under current OS X versions these can only be
>>>>> altered by the administrative user account with authentication 
from
>>>>> Apple via an Apple ID, but it (supposedly) can be done.
>>>> 
>>>>> Ross
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have any recommendations on how to get "authentication 
from 
>> Apple via an
>>>> Apple ID" or where I should post to get help from Apple on this?
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-27 Thread Ross Martinek
That's the problem, then. If I recall correctly, you can take the machine to a 
Certified Apple Technician, and they can recover that password or get around it 
in some way. Check the Apple support site, and ask in their forums.

Ross

On Mar 26, 2016, at 9:25 PM, Snowyn wrote:

>> First, what version of OSX are you using?
>> 
>> I just tried removing a system font under Yosemite, and it worked. I
>> have to assume that the account you are using does not have root
>> administration access.
>> 
>> If you are running El Capitan, then the way I've been told it works is
>> that when you attempt to make a modification to the system-reserved
>> software, Apple sends a message to one of your other devices (iPhone,
>> iPad, iPod, etc.) that asks you to verify your Apple ID. When you do
>> so from that device, your computer will grant you full access. In
>> other words, even if you are logging in as the sole administrative
>> user, you have to verify that semi-independently to get full access.
>> That means that if your computer is stolen, they have to steal at
>> least one other device and have your Apple ID to get full access. Nice
>> of Appleto force you to buy another Apple device.
>> 
>> That's as I understand it, as I haven't "upgraded" to the latest
>> version, though I will do so shortly. I'm glad Apple takes security as
>> seriously as they do. I just wish they were still good enough to do it
>> in a user friendly manner.
>> 
>> Apple has a very good support site: Apple.com/support.
>> 
>> "Those who give up their liberty to gain security deserve neither."
>> Benjamin Franklin
>> 
>> Ross
> 
> Using El Capitan. And there are two admin users on this system. One from the
> original owner. One for me. I have lost track of the password for the original
> owner's admin account. Also do not have the root password. While the original
> owner is a friend of mine, he doesn't remember his password either. El 
> Capitan's
> "protection" for fonts in /System/Library/Fonts/ is apparently much stronger
> than for Yosemite. Frankly, for a variety of reasons, I am sorry that I ever
> upgraded to El Capitan. Much preferred Yosemite.
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-27 Thread Ross Martinek
Font Book allows you to turn fonts off, effectively removing them from 
application use.

Ross

On Mar 27, 2016, at 3:25 AM, uga...@talktalk.net wrote:

> I did not suggest using Font Book.app to deactivate system files. I 
> tried to say that removing fonts from /System/Library/Fonts is 
> potentially harmful. I suggested using Font Book.app to browse, 
> organise and/or manage your fonts. 
> 
> 
>> Original Message
>> From: triariu...@gmail.com
>> Date: 27/03/2016 03:17
>> To: "Snowyn"
>> Cc: , 
>> Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>> 
>> Also as ugajin suggests, try using Font Book to deactivate system 
> files, rather than removing them.
>> 
>> Ross
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Snowyn wrote:
>> 
>>>> The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are 
> part
>>>> of "core services." under current OS X versions these can only be
>>>> altered by the administrative user account with authentication from
>>>> Apple via an Apple ID, but it (supposedly) can be done.
>>> 
>>>> Ross
>>> 
>>> Do you have any recommendations on how to get "authentication from 
> Apple via an
>>> Apple ID" or where I should post to get help from Apple on this?
>>> 
>>> -- 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-27 Thread uga...@talktalk.net

It isn't clear why you want to replace /Library/Fonts with 
>/Users/your_user_name/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.
8/fonts as this file path is already defined in GIMP > Fonts > 
Font Folders preferences. 

On OSX there are 4 default files paths in fonts.conf, which could be 
commented out. The fonts.config file is here: /Applications/GIMP.
app/Contents/Resources/etc/fonts. 

However, GIMP will not display any fonts, unless you also e.g. populate 
/Users/your_user_name/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.8/fonts with 
some fonts. 




>Original Message
>From: for...@gimpusers.com
>Date: 27/03/2016 06:27
>To: 
>Cc: 
>Subj: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>
>Try it my way (it works for Windows - so maybe also for Mac).
>
>Find the file fonts.conf (... / etc / fonts /)
>
>Replace lines:
>
>/Library/Fonts
>
>on the path to the fonts in Gimp - I guess:
>
>/Users/your_user_name/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.
8/fonts
>
>and should be in Gimp without system fonts (only the fonts directory 
Gimp)
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-27 Thread uga...@talktalk.net

It isn't clear why you want to replace /Library/Fonts with 
>/Users/your_user_name/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.
8/fonts as this file path is already defined in GIMP > Fonts > 
Font Folders preferences. 

On OSX there are 4 default files paths in fonts.conf, which could be 
commented out. The fonts.config file is here: /Applications/GIMP.
app/Contents/Resources/etc/fonts. 

However, GIMP will not display any fonts, unless you also e.g. populate 
/Users/your_user_name/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.8/fonts with 
some fonts. 




>Original Message
>From: for...@gimpusers.com
>Date: 27/03/2016 06:27
>To: 
>Cc: 
>Subj: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>
>Try it my way (it works for Windows - so maybe also for Mac).
>
>Find the file fonts.conf (... / etc / fonts /)
>
>Replace lines:
>
>/Library/Fonts
>
>on the path to the fonts in Gimp - I guess:
>
>/Users/your_user_name/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.
8/fonts
>
>and should be in Gimp without system fonts (only the fonts directory 
Gimp)
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-27 Thread uga...@talktalk.net
I did not suggest using Font Book.app to deactivate system files. I 
tried to say that removing fonts from /System/Library/Fonts is 
potentially harmful. I suggested using Font Book.app to browse, 
organise and/or manage your fonts. 


>Original Message
>From: triariu...@gmail.com
>Date: 27/03/2016 03:17
>To: "Snowyn"
>Cc: , 
>Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>
>Also as ugajin suggests, try using Font Book to deactivate system 
files, rather than removing them.
>
>Ross
>
>On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Snowyn wrote:
>
>>> The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are 
part
>>> of "core services." under current OS X versions these can only be
>>> altered by the administrative user account with authentication from
>>> Apple via an Apple ID, but it (supposedly) can be done.
>> 
>>> Ross
>> 
>> Do you have any recommendations on how to get "authentication from 
Apple via an
>> Apple ID" or where I should post to get help from Apple on this?
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-26 Thread Ross Martinek
Also as ugajin suggests, try using Font Book to deactivate system files, rather 
than removing them.

Ross

On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Snowyn wrote:

>> The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are part
>> of "core services." under current OS X versions these can only be
>> altered by the administrative user account with authentication from
>> Apple via an Apple ID, but it (supposedly) can be done.
> 
>> Ross
> 
> Do you have any recommendations on how to get "authentication from Apple via 
> an
> Apple ID" or where I should post to get help from Apple on this?
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-26 Thread Ross Martinek
First, what version of OSX are you using?

I just tried removing a system font under Yosemite, and it worked. I have to 
assume that the account you are using does not have root administration access.

If you are running El Capitan, then the way I've been told it works is that 
when you attempt to make a modification to the system-reserved software, Apple 
sends a message to one of your other devices (iPhone, iPad, iPod, etc.) that 
asks you to verify your Apple ID. When you do so from that device, your 
computer will grant you full access. In other words, even if you are logging in 
as the sole administrative user, you have to verify that semi-independently to 
get full access. That means that if your computer is stolen, they have to steal 
at least one other device and have your Apple ID to get full access. Nice of 
Apple—to force you to buy another Apple device.

That's as I understand it, as I haven't "upgraded" to the latest version, 
though I will do so shortly. I'm glad Apple takes security as seriously as they 
do. I just wish they were still good enough to do it in a user friendly manner.

Apple has a very good support site: Apple.com/support.

"Those who give up their liberty to gain security deserve neither." —Benjamin 
Franklin

Ross

On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Snowyn wrote:

>> The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are part
>> of "core services." under current OS X versions these can only be
>> altered by the administrative user account with authentication from
>> Apple via an Apple ID, but it (supposedly) can be done.
> 
>> Ross
> 
> Do you have any recommendations on how to get "authentication from Apple via 
> an
> Apple ID" or where I should post to get help from Apple on this?
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-26 Thread uga...@talktalk.net

Don't use GIMP to scroll through fonts, use Font Book.app. It is 
designed to let you search, organise and manage your fonts.

OSX is preventing you from doing something harmful. Ordinarily you 
ought not remove and/or rename System files, nor (as a rule) whould you 
add files to the OSX System/Library. Most OSX fonts are not located in 
/System/Library/Fonts, but are by default located in Library/Fonts, but 
it is also probably a bad idea to change the file names for fonts in 
this location too. However, if you are set on this appraoach then you 
will probably be better to copy/duplicate font files accross to 
/Users/your_user_name/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.8/fonts, and 
make any changes to the font file names in this location.

 






>Original Message
>From: for...@gimpusers.com
>Date: 26/03/2016 18:46
>To: 
>Cc: 
>Subj: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts
>
>>Steve,
>>
>>Nice workaround for the ordering. On the Mac OS, you can also add a
>>special character that sorts last to get the unwanted fonts down to
>>the bottom of the list. I use  which generates an omega
>>character.
>>
>>Ross
>
>Thanks for adding this to Steve's reply. If I can rename fonts, I can 
also use
>"99" to send fonts to the bottom of the list. And Option z looks 
awesome as
>well.
>
>(Main problem continues to be that I cannot do anything to the system 
fonts in
>/System/Library/Fonts/. That is, I assume that since I cannot move 
them to the
>trash or make them inactive in the Font Book, I also cannot rename 
them. But I
>will try it out and see.
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-26 Thread Ross Martinek
I just went into /System/Libary/Fonts and removed some. I had to type in my 
admin name and password. However, I'm running OS 10.6.8. I'll have to try with 
a later system and find out if that's a change Apple made on later systems. 
Will let you know.

Ross

On Mar 26, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Snowyn wrote:

>> Steve,
>> 
>> Nice workaround for the ordering. On the Mac OS, you can also add a
>> special character that sorts last to get the unwanted fonts down to
>> the bottom of the list. I use  which generates an omega
>> character.
>> 
>> Ross
> 
> Thanks for adding this to Steve's reply. If I can rename fonts, I can also use
> "99" to send fonts to the bottom of the list. And Option z looks awesome as
> well.
> 
> (Main problem continues to be that I cannot do anything to the system fonts in
> /System/Library/Fonts/. That is, I assume that since I cannot move them to the
> trash or make them inactive in the Font Book, I also cannot rename them. But I
> will try it out and see.
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-26 Thread Ross Martinek
Steve,

Nice workaround for the ordering. On the Mac OS, you can also add a special 
character that sorts last to get the unwanted fonts down to the bottom of the 
list. I use  which generates an omega character.

Ross

On Mar 26, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:

> On 03/26/2016 09:32 AM, Ross Martinek wrote:
> 
>> The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are part of 
>> "core services." under current OS X versions these can only be altered by 
>> the administrative user account with authentication from Apple via an Apple 
>> ID, but it (supposedly) can be done.
>> 
>> Another approach is to not install the foreign font families at the time of 
>> OS installation, if you want to do a clean install.
> 
> Try this:  Go to Edit > Preferences > Folders > Fonts, and see if
> the system wide fonts directory is listed.  If so, remove it,
> restart the GIMP and see if you have /any/ fonts available.  If not,
> you can put copies of the fonts you want to use in the GIMP in its
> own font directory, and that should do the deed.
> 
> It should be possible to reorder the font listing in the GIMP by
> renaming the font files, i.e. add 01, 02, etc. to groups you want to
> see listed first, second, etc.
> 
> :o)
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-26 Thread Steve Kinney
On 03/26/2016 09:32 AM, Ross Martinek wrote:

> The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are part of 
> "core services." under current OS X versions these can only be altered by the 
> administrative user account with authentication from Apple via an Apple ID, 
> but it (supposedly) can be done.
> 
> Another approach is to not install the foreign font families at the time of 
> OS installation, if you want to do a clean install.

Try this:  Go to Edit > Preferences > Folders > Fonts, and see if
the system wide fonts directory is listed.  If so, remove it,
restart the GIMP and see if you have /any/ fonts available.  If not,
you can put copies of the fonts you want to use in the GIMP in its
own font directory, and that should do the deed.

It should be possible to reorder the font listing in the GIMP by
renaming the font files, i.e. add 01, 02, etc. to groups you want to
see listed first, second, etc.

:o)



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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Font List or remove unwanted fonts

2016-03-26 Thread Ross Martinek
The reason you cannot remove the "system fonts" is that they are part of "core 
services." under current OS X versions these can only be altered by the 
administrative user account with authentication from Apple via an Apple ID, but 
it (supposedly) can be done.

Another approach is to not install the foreign font families at the time of OS 
installation, if you want to do a clean install.

Ross

On Mar 26, 2016, at 12:33 AM, Snowyn wrote:

> I want to customize the font list shown on GIMP so that it does not show me
> fonts I will never use but cannot remove from my system because OS X insists
> they are system fonts. However, I don't need Japanese, Hebrew, Chinese, etc
> alphabets, and I cannot disable them in the font book, or delete them from the
> font folder.
> 
> It would also be wonderful if GIMP would condense its font list into families
> instead of displaying each individual one. Eg, Arial, Arial Italic, Arial 
> Bold,
> and Arial Bold Italic could easily be one entry instead of four. Scrolling 
> past
> a gazillion fonts just to reach the one I want to use is getting annoying. It
> would also be wonderful if GIMP would allow me to create custom lists, eg
> SansSerif fonts, Script fonts, and the like.
> 
> BTW, I have looked in my GIMP font folders, both for user and for the
> application, and both are empty.
> 
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide, or light you can shed on this
> situation.
> 
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