Re: [Gimp-user] cmyk gimp plugin and cmyk tiff 2 pdf for gimp
I am going to assume that you are new to the gimp. Often times in order to receive help you must at have tried to look on your own. But since you have not indicated your OS or gimp version it makes things difficult in terms of trying to help you solve your dilemma. It would be nice if we were mind readers, but alas that is not the case. I am going to assume windows because most linux users are familar with the gimp and how to install plugins. Try putting the .exe in your user directory C:\DS\User Account\.gimp 2.x\plugins. The lovely thing about the gimp and plugins is that they are not installed like you would think. Subject: cmyk gimp plugin and cmyk tiff 2 pdf for gimp Where do I find instructions on how to install these plugins and is there something else I need to install first and how do you install these items. As well how does one know which of the available scripts and plugins can be installed in the latest release of gimp and are there installation instructions for each of these. If so where do I find these instructions. Is there a searchable archive somewhere. Is there someone else I should be contacting to get these answers? Thanks! - ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] CMYK support
You might want to try putting 'gimp cmyk' into Google and have a read -- Owen On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Carlos Muncharaz wrote: Hi, I have just added to the mail list and here I bring some questions: What about Gimp support for CMYK color mode? Have you discuss about it? Will Gimp handle CMYK images? Can a graphic designer who works with CMYK images to send to printer work with Linux and Gimp? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] cmyk on gimp
Am Mittwoch 08 Dezember 2004 21:21 schrieb Ricardo Cappellano: Hello, I really need to know how do I work with cmyk on gimp, or changes my files from rgb to cmyk. All press here works only with cmyk. So, before I send my flyers to the press, I have to convert it. Is it possible? Hello Ricardo, I have tried to post here before, but it didn't work. I hope this one comes through. please have a look here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123598 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123627 http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml http://www.gegl.org/TODO.html HTH Gerhard ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] cmyk on gimp
Am Sonntag 12 Dezember 2004 00:34 schrieb Gerhard Gaussling: I have tried to post here before, but it didn't work. I hope this one comes through. Hello again, ok that worked. Here's the message that I tried to send before (with the wrong sender address): Yes it's possible with lcms and the 'seperate' plugin by Alastair M. Robinson blackfive [ a t ] fakenhamweb.co.uk. http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml He send me a copy of an improved version for gimp 2.x. I received a message from the developer of the separate plugin, which can be found at the bottom of this message. - Thank you Alastair, for your reply, and the improved source! He attached a new version of that plugin with two new checkboxes in the pick the icc profiles for preserve pure black and overprint pure black. It tries to load these default profiles from the scribus default profile folder : ! #define DEFAULT_RGB_PROFILE /usr/lib/scribus/profiles/AdobeRGB1998.icc ! #define DEFAULT_CMYK_PROFILE /usr/lib/scribus/profiles/USWebCoatedSWOP.icc The rendering intend is according to the source perceptual, which is often optimal for photographics ( INTENT_PERCEPTUAL, 0); ), but the proof appears to me a little bit too yellowish, so that I thought it was rendered with an absolute intend, which also simulate the paperwhite. As a feature-request I would it find helpfull, if one is able to choose also the rendering intend, and to preselect a default rendering intent (e.g. perceptive renderin intent as the default intend). Also a detection of embedded profiles while opening an image, and a strategies to convert the image into a working colorspace is highly appreciate for an integrated colormanagement of the GIMP. But I think this will come if the gimp comes with the new rewritten engine Gegl -- Generic Graphical Library (http://www.gegl.org/). The binary oft separate works now for debian SID, too. Alastair attached a tarball with the source and the linux-binary, which I don't want to send to the list. If someone is interested in the source, please, let me know. Kind regards Gerhard Gaußling PS.: I hope I was sufficely able to express myself in English -- forwarded message -- Subject: Re: appendix Re: HOWTO build and package CMYK separate plugin for the GIMP (SID) Date: Freitag 08 Oktober 2004 20:26 From: Alastair M. Robinson blackfive .a.t. fakenhamweb.co.uk To: ggrubbish at web.de Hi Gerhard, gerhard wrote: So I have to compile it from source. Alastair, please is it possible to host your project on sourceforge to make it easier to develope it by other developer, because you mentioned that you got no time to maintain the source? I'd have no objection to someone doing that - the source is GPL after all - but it's also possible that it will be made an integral part of the main GIMP distribution, in which case there'd be little point. There's currently a slight logjam in doing that with the recent discussion about whether we can get useful colour-management into the next release - if we do, then the separate plugin will need re-writing a little. I will try to figure out what I need to change in the Makefile to compile it for the GIMP 2.04 on debian SID. Try the attached archive - it compiles here on Mandrake 9.2 and a current GIMP system. Hopefully it shouldn't need much, if any, modification for Debian. (There are also a couple of new features in this version that I'll leave you to discover...) All the best, -- Alastair M. Robinson --- separate.gimp20.tgz [918.1 KB] to get it, please send an email with a short mesage to ggrubbish at web.de . ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] CMYK and Postscript output.
Sven wrote: I don't know who's feeding you your information but that person is highly misinformed since there are no vector layers. If you want postscript or even pdf files using vectors instead of bitmaps, you are looking at the wrong application. GIMP is an image manipulation program for editing raster graphics. If you want to edit vectors, please use a vector editing application. The Gfig plugin now creates its own layers, and they are vector layers because if you run Gfig with the active layer being a Gfig layer, you can manipulate the objects there as vector objects. Dave Neary's GIMP 2.2 headlines mention this, with perhaps a bit more enthusiasm than is entirely justified -- this is presumably the source of the misinformation. In any case, the capabilities of Gfig are quite primitive in comparison with well-developed vector graphics programs such as Sodipodi or Inkscape -- and strictly speaking, the functionality does not come from GIMP itself but rather from the plugin. The rest of what you wrote I think is quite correct. It may be interesting to note that it would theoretically be possible to modify programs such as Inkscape or Sodipodi so that they would be capable of running as GIMP plugins, creating their own special layers and storing their data as layer attachments (i.e., parasites in GIMP terminology), in the same way that Gfig now does. (This is also basically how the Text tool works, except it doesn't use parasites.) Such an approach could give GIMP full-powered SVG-vector-editing capabilities without requiring any major changes in the GIMP core. Best, -- Bill __ __ __ __ Sent via the KillerWebMail system at primate.ucdavis.edu ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] CMYK and Postscript output.
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 11:45, John Culleton wrote: I note that the newest version of Gimp will allow for vector layers in some way. This is a very positive step. But I haven't heard about CMYK color model lately. Since my major use is in preparing materials for print this would not be a step but a leap forward. Are there plans for anything new on the CMYK front? Ideally (for printers) Gimp would output a postscript or even a pdf file using vectors instead of bitmaps and with colors expressed in cmyk terms. Is such a capability on the drawing board yet? Hi! No. The CMYK color modle shall be made available when the GIMP gets integrated with GEGL - GEneric Graphics Library - a project started by the Gimp developers themselves to more or less become the Gimp core. Them we will have 16bit and floating point color depths, and CMYK. Unfortunattely, GEGL is a bit late. What is actually needed for professional pritners is not CMYK, though, but color profiling. There is some rough support for color profiling already, and the panas are to make it a lot better for GIMP 2.4 - which will be the other (not the very soom stable, which will be 2.2) stable GIMP. As for postscript output - if you want vector output, you probably are looking at the wrong software. There are inkscape and sodipody which work with vector graphics. I had implemented a script to output GIMP paths to postscript tough. Due to limitations on the vectors API on gimp 2.0, and gimp 2.2 it will not work with all vectors, but can work with vectors with closed componnents only. I did it because from time to time I hand craft some postscript apps, and this was a nice way to get drawings into my own postscripts. You will find this script at: http://hopey.nervo.org/~gwidion/gimp ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] CMYK support
On Jan 16, 2004, at 10:13 AM, Thomas Spuhler wrote: In one of the recent reviews of the upcoming Gimp 2 it has been advertised that it will fully support CMYK. (Which recent review?) yes, this has been an irritating problem. Some time ago (3 years) it was decided that the gimp would need to go though some major changes to add things like CMYK. It was thought, then, that CMYK would be added and that version would be called 2.0. Things have changed since then. CMYK is still planned, but not in version 2.0. There was actually a statement in the review like, if you have problems with the Photoshop license throw it away and use The Gimp. Or why spend $600 if you can use the Gimp and open these Photoshop files and edit them! Well, there are some things in psd files that the gimp clearly doesn't support yet. So if you have lots of work in psd's getting rid of photoshop might be a bit hasty. We have heard from this mailing list that this is not the case. What is the reason that CMYK does not make it into Gimp. Is it very difficult to program or is there a patent issue? Lot's of other budget priced (Windows and Linux) graphic programs do not have it built in either. No, there is no patent issue that we know of. It is just that doing it right takes either a lot of time, or a lot of money. We don't have the latter, so the former is the answer. The answer is the CYMK support and a lot of other features are a direct focus for some of us. Just when we finally do it, it will be the best way we know how. We are well on our way to this goal. -- Dan ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] CMYK support
On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 11:56, Daniel Rogers wrote: On Jan 16, 2004, at 10:13 AM, Thomas Spuhler wrote: In one of the recent reviews of the upcoming Gimp 2 it has been advertised that it will fully support CMYK. (Which recent review?) Cannot find it anymore. Maybe it's pulled off the WEB since it was kind of unreal, just highlighting features that such as full CMYK support and being able to open all psd files w/o problems. yes, this has been an irritating problem. Some time ago (3 years) it was decided that the gimp would need to go though some major changes to add things like CMYK. It was thought, then, that CMYK would be added and that version would be called 2.0. Things have changed since then. CMYK is still planned, but not in version 2.0. There was actually a statement in the review like, if you have problems with the Photoshop license throw it away and use The Gimp. Or why spend $600 if you can use the Gimp and open these Photoshop files and edit them! Well, there are some things in psd files that the gimp clearly doesn't support yet. So if you have lots of work in psd's getting rid of photoshop might be a bit hasty. We have heard from this mailing list that this is not the case. What is the reason that CMYK does not make it into Gimp. Is it very difficult to program or is there a patent issue? Lot's of other budget priced (Windows and Linux) graphic programs do not have it built in either. No, there is no patent issue that we know of. It is just that doing it right takes either a lot of time, or a lot of money. We don't have the latter, so the former is the answer. The answer is the CYMK support and a lot of other features are a direct focus for some of us. Just when we finally do it, it will be the best way we know how. We are well on our way to this goal. This seems to be a good answer! -- Dan -- Best Regards Thomas J Spuhler All Tusonix outgoing e-mail has been scanned for viruses signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Gimp-user] CMYK
Hi, John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So much for the status report. Now here is my question. The release notes mention a trivial RGB to CMYK conversion function. However I could not find the function on the menus. If it is a plug in then I didn't get it. This as everyone knows by now a critical issue for the book cover application. Printers expect CMYK and will be unhappy (or charge extra) if they get RGB instead. The conversion functions are there but 1.3.17 uses it for the CMYK color selector only. Hopefully we can add CMYK support to at least one or two file plug-ins before 2.0 is released. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] CMYK (was: Diaoppearing freefonts)
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 04:36:39PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are only making things worse if you convert from RGB to CMYK Not really... people I talked to said they can perfectly handle that (adjusting colours later in a layout program for example, or simply addign a matching colour profile). On the other hand, many layout programs simply treat files as CMYK, even if they are RGB, which is a lot worse since it cannot be fixed easily. Also, no information is being destroyed, since you had no colour profile in RGB, the simple formula is a good as any other. would have long done. You should really let the printer do the conversion for you. Only the printer knows all the necessary details. Unfortunately, the printer often can't or won't do that, since the printer wants CMYK no matter what. -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | | ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] CMYK
Hi, just for your information, the CVS version does include the RGB-CMYK conversions now and it offers a simple CMYK color selector. I have not yet started on adding support for saving CMYK data but at least I started reading the TIFF spec. If anyone wants to help to add support for saving CMYK, that would be very much appreciated. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] CMYK (was: Diaoppearing freefonts)
Hi, John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you know most prepress folks want all color images in CMYK form. So an ablilty to save in CMYK instead of RGB would be what I need. I suppose one could use ImageMagick instead but I haven't tried that. You are only making things worse if you convert from RGB to CMYK without detailed knowledge of the printer, the inks and the paper that will be used. This is the reason why GIMP doesn't support CMYK yet. If it was only about doing the RGB-CMYK conversion using the naive and uncalibrated formula, that would be a five-minute hack that we would have long done. You should really let the printer do the conversion for you. Only the printer knows all the necessary details. And only if they gave you the color profiles for the printer, inks and paper, you could do a reasonable conversion using an appropriate tool. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
