Roland,
Thanks for pointing out the possibility that SFX remains may be those of a
Buddhist monk. I was not aware of this claim. Here is the reference to the
claim:
http://www.lakehouse.lk/budusarana/2006/01/29/Budu13.pdf
The Buddhist monk was named Ven. Thotagamuwe Sri Rahula Thera
It
/2014-January/237752.html
Cheers,
Santosh
On Friday, January 31, 2014 1:20 PM, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com
wrote:
Like a seasoned hindutva troll, Santosh Helekar continues his tactics of
obfuscating the issue. He has been asked to provide documentary evidence to
support his
The accusatory statements in the post appended below are a distortion of what I
said. I have never stated that Justice Saldanha and Harsh Mander have collected
funds from various religious organizations. I quote below the two statements
that I have made:
So I will let you know if and when I
I am sorry I cannot respond in kind to the personal attacks and further
distortions in the post appended below.
But I just want to explain that it is a matter of common sense that funds are
required to conduct thousands of interviews that need to be conducted if the
claims in the religious
Gays are legitimate human beings who deserve the same right, respect and honor
as any other kind of human being.
Cheers,
Santosh
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:55 PM, Stephen Dias steve.dia...@gmail.com
wrote:
BJP spokesperson Dr Wilfred Mesquita says that by giving Padma Sri
award to
I thank Marshall for his kindness and prayers. He is truly Christ-like, and
always refrains from attacking the messenger, as he has done once again this
time. He also conducts his own research and surveys before forwarding his
material from the religious organization misnamed Catholic Secular
of these instances indicate
whether Christians and the Christian Church are being persecuted in
India by other religious communities or the state, as is claimed by
those who have released this year's persecution report.
Cheers,
Santosh
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@gmail.com
wrote:
Stephen Dias steve.dias60 at
gmail.com on Sun Jan 26 02:43:40 PST 2014 posts a e-mail from Santosh Helekar
under caption: Quackery on Herald.:
Thank You Dr. Santosh.
Neuroscientist,
Thank You for your valuable
comments.
RESPONSE:
Stephen and members
anything for the human body other than please the eye. Can we reduce crystal
healing to the absurd?
UNQUOTE
Cheers,
Santosh
On Friday, January 24, 2014 7:13 PM, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Can you please send me the article to which you are referring? Perhaps, I
Can you please send me the article to which you are referring? Perhaps, I will
be able to offer the feedback that you seek. I share your concern about
quackery being spread through the internet and by the popular press.
Cheers,
Santosh
On Friday, January 24, 2014 1:46 AM, Stephen Dias
Reis Falcão
drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote:
Santosh Helekar chimbelcho at yahoo.com on Fri Jan 24
17:13:35 PST 2014 wrote:
Can you please send me the article to which you are
referring? Perhaps, I will be able to offer the feedback that you seek. I share
your concern about quackery being
Since this is supposed to be a secular forum, one would like to know whether
any real secular organization such as Human Rights Watch has independently
confirmed the report from the Christian organization named Catholic Secular
Forum. One would like to know for example whether these alleged
There are many errors in the timeline and text given below. I would like to
correct some of them right now, and perhaps more later.
C 100 - 80,000 - Arrival of modern Homo sapiens in the valleys of Mandovi
and Zuari.
Homo sapiens did not populate India and Goan part of India until
This has relevance to us in Goa because we are genetically completely Indian.
The video below refers to an older study on 25 population groups published in
2009. The latest study by the same authors expands the data set to include 73
groups, although none of which is taken from the Goan
Here are some more old Portuguese maps of the island of Goa (Ilha de Goa) in
the state of India (Estado da India) in all different cartographic conventions,
as far as orientation is concerned. They are from various reliable sources,
including the Biblioteca Nacional de Portugal.
The following
...@hotmail.com wrote:
Santosh Helekar chimbelcho at yahoo.com on Fri Dec 20
07:15:27 PST 2013 wrote:
Here is accurate information for the benefit of Falcao and
others regarding the use by the Portuguese of the term island of
Goa or ilha de Goa to refer only to the island of Tiswadi
even
Cyrusbab,
The original discussion and argument that I participated in was about
citizenship and nationality. You are now imagining the argument to be something
else and putting words in my mouth in the process.
I have presented facts to back up my claim that the vast majority of people
Here is accurate information regarding the history of citizenship and
international law. Citizenship has been recognized since the time of the Greek
city states and the Roman empire. Ever since conquerors have granted
citizenship to the people living in their conquered territories.
Cyrusbab,
My intention on Goanet for the last nearly two decades has been to obtain and
provide accurate information from reliable sources i.e. from credible books,
articles or documents in my possession, in a university or public library, or
on websites of responsible public service
1736)
I would kindly request Falcao to translate the above for the benefit of those
who do not understand Portuguese.
Cheers,
Santosh
On Friday, December 20, 2013 4:24 AM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote:
Santosh
Helekar chimbelcho at yahoo.com on Thu
If one examines a currently valid passport of any country, irrespective of
whether the passport holder was born in foreign colonial captivity or not in
the past, it becomes clear that both Shri Falcao and Shri Sanches have been
misled. A citizen and passport holder of a country also holds its
It looks like Falcao's speculations are exactly the opposite of that of Shri
Cyrus Sanches. Perhaps, it is because Falcao consults the Wikipedia and Shri
Sanches consults the Merriam-Webster dictionary to obtain their legal knowledge
about immigration, citizenship and nationality laws.
Here is
,
Santosh
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:18 AM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote:
Santosh Helekar chimbelcho at yahoo.com on Fri Dec 13
13:41:50 PST 2013 wrote:
Is Falcao not an Indian? If so, what is his ethnic identity,
and what is his nationality
Is Falcao not an Indian? If so, what is his ethnic identity, and what is his
nationality?
Cheers,
Santosh
On Friday, December 13, 2013 3:48 AM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote:
Prof. Sergio Carvalho has made it abundantly clear in his write up on
today's
This is a very good tip from Shri Fernandes. I will try it on my way back.
Cheers,
Santosh
Dhovi Khopti, Goa
On Monday, November 25, 2013 11:26 AM, Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net wrote:
Folks,
Another tip: If your baggage is still over the allowed limit, I found out
that
you could
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:05 AM, U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com
wrote:
This message is in reply to Dr. Ferdinando’s message (appended herein
below):-
1. I don’t hold doctorate in forecasting as you may be or you are holding!
Falcao does not have a doctorate in any subject.
I had a similar experience to that of Shri Fernandes a few days ago.
Unfortunately, the lady at the counter could not break Jet Airways rules to
offer my royal self special treatment.
Cheers,
Santosh
Gerry,
It is premature to conclude anything from this study for two reasons:
1. These are old results obtained in rats that need to be confirmed in humans,
and because of racial differences, they need to be confirmed in Indians, in
order to be applicable to us. The report you are referring to
To be recognized as a specialist in the field of Psychiatry in India a
physician has to have a postgraduate degree or diploma in this discipline. A
qualified modern psychiatrist also tends to be highly sensitive and respectful
towards his/her patients. He/she takes great pains to guard their
The American Medical Association (AMA) has endorsed the new health insurance
law in the U.S. Here is information regarding it provided by the AMA for
physicians and patients:
http://www.ama-assn.org/resources/doc/washington/hsr-booklet.pdf
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
The post below makes false claims regarding my assertions in this thread. I
have simply provided a news report to back up the following statement of Roland:
QUOTE
Reputed to be the original brainchild of ex Police Commissioner Julius Ribeiro
as a means to decimate Bombay's once powerful
The following article entitled Rise of the ’83 ‘encounter’ batch supports
Roland's contention on this issue:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Mumbai/Rise-of-the-83-encounter-batch/Article1-860364.aspx
Here is the pertinent quote:
QUOTE
The 1983 batch
Julio Ribeiro, who took over as
To clarify this further, if Dr. Trevor Colaco is referring to combined PET and
CT, this combined method came into use in the 1990s. This variation as well has
nothing to do with MRI.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
Falcao
Falcao is right. Both PET and CT are old technologies, and they have nothing to
do with MRI. MRI is also fairly old. The funny thing is the letter was posted
by a Dr. Trevor Colaco on a religious website. Assuming this doctor is in the
medical field, how he did not know these facts about PET,
Hi FN Noronha,
Please tell me which books you need. I am happy send them to you.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا
fredericknoron...@gmail.com
Dear all: Can anyone help me on this one please? I need someone to
Only Bharatiya Janata Party members believe that Hinduism is a culture. Has
Bernado changed his party from Communist Party of China to Bharatiya Janata
Party of India?
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk
It is recorded somewhere that
Once again, I apologize for not being able to do anything about gratuitous
rhetoric in posts like the one appended below. But I am happy to provide
further evidence for the following points of interest to me, that contradict
all of the speculations and insinuations made by the poster below
Sebastian Borges wrote:
My thanks to Santosh for the very informative links; they widened the horizons
of an ill-read person like me.
Dear Prof. Borges,
I too appreciate your input and perspective on this issue, which I think are
more valuable than mine. I am not sure if you are interested
I am sorry I cannot do anything about the fact that the respondent below
continues to engage in rhetoric and insults.
I am interested in knowing how the constitutional notion of Scheduled Castes
and tribes came into being in Indian history. In response to the said
respondent's prior
Now that Prof, Borges has presented some of the facts on this issue, let me
tell you why I know that he is on solid ground in his assertions about
Christian members of the Indian Constituent Assembly. While doing this let me
also provide evidence on the issue of impulsive rhetoric and lack of
I have enjoyed the discussions between Prof. Borges and others. What is
especially rewarding to me is that they have relied on historical facts, common
sense and reason. Driven by an unshakable bad habit, I have silently
fact-checked all of the professor's assertions. It has been a fun
I am sure Prof. Borges will provide the facts on the main issue of this thread.
But on the peripheral issues of balance and rhetorics, I have to say that
neither of the respondents below have ever shown any propensity for balance,
especially when it comes to sectarian matters. This is evident
This is the second Indian rationalist killed in 3 years. The last one was Ajita
Kamal (http://nirmukta.com/2012/01/12/in-memoriam-ajita-kamal-1978-2011/)
One is in exile. What the heck is going on?
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Camillo Fernandes camillofernan...@hotmail.com
I think there are difficult dilemmas involved here. Harmless rituals and
cultural traditions need to be preserved even if they do not have any value as
art forms. But if these practices have religious significance then they run
smack into the right to propagate and convert to a new religion,
Posting this invitation of behalf of a fellow Goan.
Invitation to join an enterprise for the advancement of young people with
Special Needs.
We at Atmavishwas invite you to join us for a morning where we shall explore
together the problems and challenges that confront literally hundreds and
- Original Message -
From: President Leo Rebello
Here goes why I am now vehemently against Organ Donation or Cadaver
Donation:
President Leo,
Why are you against donating your cadaver?
Cheers,
Santosh
Augusto had asked me to read the following book, among others, presumably to
support Fr. Ferrao's argument that the beliefs and practices of the people of
the Goan region of India before the arrival of the Portuguese in the 16th
century were not fully Hindu. That instead, they were seminal
Here is more evidence that the word Hindu or Hendu was used in the religious
connotation of today as early as the 11th century. This is a translated quote
from Abu Rayhan Biruni (also called Abu Rayhan Muhammad ibn Ahmad Al-Biruni or
Alberonius):
QUOTE
As the word of confession, There is no
- Original Message -
Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
fredericknoro...@gmail.com
I may be wrong on this one, but it might be sensible to check up -- before
commenting -- whether the Reserve Bank of India Governor is indeed a US
citizen or not. Else, we
I have already shown with quotes of da Orta that Fr. Ferrao's claim that the
word Hindu as an identifier of people belonging to a religion distinct from
Islam and Christianity did not exist in 16th century Goa, is bogus. I provide
below further evidence that this word with the said connotation
...@gmail.com
Santosh Helekar wrote: I have already shown with quotes of da Orta that Fr.
Ferrao's claim that the word Hindu as an identifier of people belonging to
a religion distinct from Islam and Christianity did not exist in 16th
century Goa
Dear Santosh,
Why must you always sound like
It is absolutely disgusting. Worse than perverted tabloid journalism.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Cecil Pinto cecilpi...@gmail.com
T he Herald today had this frivolous and insensitive illustration on
the front page.
George,
The problem I have with some of this so-called research about Goan history,
whether it is church-related or otherwise, is that it is merely the expression
of somebody's subjective opinion pulled out of thin air and dripping with
either left-wing or right-wing ideology. There is no
His obituary in The Independent says that he was Anglo-Indian, which is what I
was told as a child. Please see:
http://www.questia.com/library/1P2-1777689/obituary-lt-gen-k-p-candeth-indian-army-officer
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Alfred de Tavares
What I don't understand is why there is a need for a theology on every topic,
including a secular one. What the heck is a Goan theology, and why do we need
it?
Cheers,
Santosh
P.S. For a discussion about the recent attempts to revise or theologize Goan
history, please see the following
What Fr. Ferrao is saying with regard to orientalisms and occidentalisms is
abstract philosophical wrangling of no interest to the general public. But what
he is saying about the history of Goa is of great concern from the secular
standpoint, assuming that he is not simply wasting more time by
of Rev. Dr. Victor Ferrao.
I think that recent scholarship of history proves that the contention of
Ferrao is quite difficult to discredit. Did you know that there was no such
thing as a Saraswat Brahmin until well into the 19th century?
Regards
Augusto
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel
I am not sure whether the purpose of this attempt at historical revisionism is
purely political in order to counteract against the Hindu zealots or it is some
new form of religious or colonial apologism concocted by the latest breed of
theologians.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message
- Original Message -
From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com
In today’s world, only the mother knows who is her
child. Rest all is affidavit before mamlatdar.
This was true in yesterday's world. In today's world genetic paternity tests
can establish with high
- Original Message -
From: U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com
However, in his latest message, Santosh is actually giving two figures –
2000 killed and 1200 killed. I do grant that my earlier figure of 1100
could well be wrong. But then given the final quote in his message, surely
,
Santosh
From: U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com
I don’t understand what ‘Santosh’ Santosh Helekar get by quoting false
figure of 2000 being killed in the post-Godhra riot! The number of persons
being killed as reported officially by the government in court of law is:
around 1100, of which about
Pedru is an Indian
Born in Purtugez India.
Thinks he is civilized by the pacle,
And that to be civilized is to be a bigot.
He is proud to be a bigot,
And believes that today you can learn that
In Purtugal and America and Chin
Cheers,
Santosh
I could not find an answer to my question in Kishwar's multi-part article,
regarding Modi's culpability in the killing of 2000 innocent people by acts of
commission and/or omission. I only found the usual political justifications and
post-hoc rationalizations by Kishwar.
Cheers,
Santosh
Popatlal is an Indian from Goa.
By all appearances, he looks and sounds
like a normal run-of-the-mill guy.
But there is something
that is not right about him.
When he speaks or writes about himself,
things don’t add up.
Perhaps, he is completely bald under his toupe.
Perhaps, he is a woman
My own impression of this interview is that Mr. Gupta was not tough enough on
Mr. Parrikar. The question should have been whether Modi was culpable in the
killing of 2000 innocent human beings or not, by an act of commission or
omission? That is the only question that matters in respect of
How about this self-hating anti-Indian remark by Falcao?
Only Indians squat when dining that their foot reaches their mouth.
Ferdinando Falcao
Please see:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2013-June/231784.html
Good to see Gilbert back on Goanet.
Cheers,
Santosh
The anti-fluoridation nonsense described in the video below is a political
propaganda pitch of a well-known quack movement. The nonsense that these
conspiracy theorists and activists are propagating have been repeatedly
debunked by health experts and scientists, but it keeps showing up on
Marlon,
As with every other anti-Indian propaganda in Goan forums this too is motivated
by self-hate.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: marlon menezes goa...@yahoo.com
What exactly is the problem here? If industry can get cheaper, but equally
good
employees, it
I had heard of a Sodabatliopenwalla many years ago. It turns out that both
Sodawaterbottleopenerwalla and Sodabottleopenerwalla are real Parsi names. You
can find them on Facebook.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Victor Rangel-Ribeiro vrangel...@yahoo.com
To: estb.
As usual the popular news media hyperventilate about wild claims made in a book
rather than in a recognized peer-reviewed scientific journal. The truth is that
the few fibers on which these tests were conducted have not been authenticated
by the church authorities, and the tests used have never
Albert Peres wrote:
Below is a link to the funnel of the Fringe topic: ie March 28, Track II. The
published notes say: ...Your submission will be up for public voting for up to
a month before the event. For the final tally, we will only consider votes
from event delegates (Ticket holders), as
I am curious as to what we be discussed under the topic of fringe. Does
anybody know?
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: D'Souza, Avelino adso...@kockw.com
T he Goa Project Two-Day Arts Conference Set for March 28-29
On March 28th and 29th, thought leaders from various
I would urge interested readers of this forum to read the Wikipedia website
provided below to understand how race is defined in 2013.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com
This may enlighten those who use the term race,
This has reference to the article that it cites, not to the crap from Floriano
below. The article by Brig. da Costa is at the following link:
http://heraldingoa.blogspot.com/p/opinion.html
I understand where the brigadier comes from, and I share his anguish, but not
all of his explicit
such as
the internet, 24 hour TV news channels, cheap digital cameras and mobile phones.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com
On 27 February 2013 13:19, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote:
a: I have been wondering as to why self-hate is so widespread
Again, confining myself to facts rather than opinions, I have no idea what
currently accepted universal scientific or medical definition of race Josebab
uses to declassify Indians as a race. But let me just tell you how the US
Department of Health and Human Services Data Standards for Race,
I have been wondering as to why self-hate is so widespread and extreme in
India, irrespective of religious and political leanings. While in some cases
religious chauvinism can provide an explanation, I suspect that in most cases
we need other explanations. One insight is gleaned from the
Shashi Tharoor is a thoughtful man. He has the highest regard for his country.
He believes that no community in India truly has a majority status. There is
within this nation only a vast diversity of lineages and creeds. I share this
view. I believe that the critical divide in
India has always
Self-hate exists in all countries. But in India it is taken to the extreme, and
in cases like that of Arundati Roy, celebrated. As I have stated in my last
post, this is exemplified by the following two activities engaged in by Indian
citizens:
1. Citing, quoting or writing articles in the
Self-hate in India, especially among Goans is of a kind that is not seen in any
other functioning democracy. Hating one's government when it does something
wrong is a natural thing and a good thing in a free democracy. Speaking truth
to power is an important right and duty of a citizen. But
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Unfortunately the writer failed to garner many other incidents of rape and
crimes committed by the illegal invaders, which have
gone unrecorded in this courageous and well documented version which every
Goan should
Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps, I will be able to determine, albeit for my own sake, why suddenly in
1890news reports about Portuguese Goa started to emanate from British
India .
Is it possible that Dal mein Kuch Kala hai ?
The above speculation is without
Continuing my quest to corroborate the Portuguese information officer Leo
Lawrence's account, here is something reported by the New York Times, that he
failed to mention:
PRIESTS IN GOA PRAY FOR INDIA
PANGIM, Goa, Dec. 25 (AP)
Roman Catholic priests offered prayers for the prosperity of India
It is interesting to read about war and peace, crime and justice, and bondage
and freedom in the lifetimes of our parents, grand parents and great grand
parents as reported in the foreign press. In this thread I therefore provide
clippings from old foreign newspapers with no obvious ties to
You have read the story I told you of looting after the annexation of Goa as
related by the Portuguese information officer Leo Lawrence. Here is now the
story as related by the Time Magazine issue of January 5, 1962 in an article
entitled India: Morning After:
QUOTE
Goa's virtually duty-free
Adv. Radharao Gracias wrote:
Dual nationality is specifically barred, by Article 9 of the Constitution of
India, which dictates:
Art.9. No person shall be a citizen of India by virtue of article 5, or be
deemed to be a citizen of India by virtue of article 6 or article 8, if he has
I am sorry to hear about the passing of Fr. Ivo. I would like to offer my
heartfelt condolences to his family.
Sincerely,
Santosh
Bosco wrote:
[Goanet] OBITUARY: Rev Fr Ivo da Conceicao E Souza
The last obituary at the below links is for Rev Fr Ivo da Conceicao E Souza
of Holy Spirit
The way the East is making great progress is by self-deportation of all the
racist, casteist and religious bigots to the West, Macau and Down Under.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au
Hi all,
Catching Up? Yes. What percentage of the
Josebab Colaco asks very good questions about Goa's history. What I most
commend him for is the fact that he, unlike others, recognizes that these
questions are purely academic, and not a propaganda tool for a political or
religious chauvinistic agenda. So since this is an academic exercise, I
This is a good attempt to sanitize purtugez history, avoiding the mention of
Acto Colonial of 1930, giving us proud Indians of Estado da India the status of
second class citizens, etc, etc.. This revisionist business is getting pretty
old now, but nonetheless is a veritable clown show.
If one reads Goan history one will find out that Floriano Lobo is most likely
not a Goan based on the same tortuous historical logic that he and a few other
non-Goans use in this forum. But he and they are Indian by lineage and
tradition. Floriano is fighting for the independence of today's Goa
I know that there are a few individuals in this forum who have trouble
understanding what is written in plain English. Josebab is not one of them. But
I submit that Josebab makes the mistake here of confusing my acceptance of the
reality of historical facts and actions with my approval of those
- Original Message -
From: Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com
Am I correct in understanding that (say in 1962)
a: Goans already had Portuguese nationality
b: They have been 'decreed' to be Indian citizens
c: They are now given the choice ie Accept it OR Get Lost from your Home
(like
Original Message -
From: Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com
For that matter .. HOW does anyone KNOW what the majority of Goans wanted
in
1962?
One can know that the majority of Goans residing in Goa did not want to
renounce their decreed Indian citizenship, and register
- Original Message -
From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com
Therefore I reiterate that Goans are neither Bharatis
nor Indians as both these entities did not exist prior to 1947.
What about Bengalis and Maharashtrians? Are they Indian?
Cheers,
Santosh
Those who were loyal to Portugal and the Portuguese government claimed that
rapes were being committed by Indians even before the invasion of 1961 -
indeed, as early as 1958, according to one loyalist writer. On the other hand,
apologists for the actions of the Indian government and
Colaco,
Are you now against invasion and conversion? When did you change your mind?
BTW, most of us Goans were always Bharatiya. Please read your history.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk
Maybe persons like Helekar wanted to be bharats,
Gabriel wrote:
So what is your point Santosh?
Gabriel,
The answer to this question should have been obvious to you since you yourself
have confirmed my point in what you have written below. My point is that
loyalists and apologists on either side have written about the atrocities
committed
People ought to get their information from reliable and reputed historical and
news sources, not just from any crappy blog or website that they find in a
Google search.
Here is a United Nations report indicating that Bashar al-Assad's atrocities in
Syria have resulted in 60,000 deaths so far:
To find out how many peaceful freedom fighters were killed by Salazar's police
please read the following book published in 1955:
Inside Goa by Homer A. Jack
To find out about executions of peaceful freedom fighters and atrocities by the
Portuguese in Goa during Salazar rule please read:
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