[Goanet] Easy listening selection......Botcha mi baba ciami....Rosemary Clooney.

[Con Menezes]

  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE-Hq0i3TNE

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[Goanet] The United Nations explained: Its Power, Purpose and Problems.

[Con Menezes]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/world/what-is-united-nations-un-explained.html?emc=edit_ae_20160918=todaysheadlines-asia=69652215&_r=0

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[Goanet] Goanet: Spain's Stolen Babies: When Nuns Took Babies from Parents

[Marshall Mendonza]

We are all aware that illegal and unofficial sale / adoption of babies are
being done not only in Goa but all over the country. However, may I ask
Stephen whether it is being done by Nuns in collaboration with Catholic
Hospitals and with force / deceit?

Regards,

Marshall

*Subject says " parents" i.e Nuns took babies from parents.*
> Who are the parents? In this case they are unwed mother. Only single
parent is affected and not parents as  father who is unofficial unknown.
> This kind of taking babies is a common issue or practice in Goa,  not
only in Salazar's  time but still it continues now, and I know that babies
can be taken directly from certain Hospitals or else they are made to
disappear from the Hospital and given to the affluent people/families to
take them home or even these babies are taken  to other states. It is
nothing new and as long as there is no complain,  these babies either are
sold or given with some declaration so that these babies are not ill
treated. I know there are plenty of  cases here in Goa that such babies are
been adopted and they are well taken care with good education etc.etc  This
is generally taking place with those parents who do not have any issues.
>
> Stephen Dias
> Dona Paula

[Goanet] (no subject)

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[Goanet] REMEMBERING RIBANDAR’S BUDDING MUSICIAN SELWYN PEREIRA

[Aires Rodrigues]

Today on his 16th death anniversary fond memories of Selwyn Pereira, a
jewel, our Ribandar lost so early, at a very tender age of just 29 in a
most tragic accident at Kanpur.



Selwyn Pereira had started his own band when he was just 10 years old and
named it "Civilians". He later played for one of Goa's top bands the "Big
City Band” and moved on to join as a keyboardist playing for Remo
Fernandes’s "The Microwave Papadams".



Remembering the always ever so cheerful, warm hearted and very jovial
Selwyn Pereira who was always ready to help one and all. Extremely civil in
his conduct, the very down to earth with no ego, Selwyn was always ever so
humble. Besides being a very budding musician, he was an outstanding human
being always caring and who never stopped smiling.



Aires Rodrigues

Advocate High Court

C/G-2, Shopping Complex

Ribandar Retreat,

Ribandar – Goa – 403006

Mobile No: 9822684372

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Re: [Goanet] Goanet: Spain's Stolen Babies: When Nuns Took Babies from Parents

[Roland]

Oh my gosh!

JC you have your answer thanks to Stephen Dias.

It was not such a leap of speculation and conspiracy theorizing after all.

Roland Francis
Toronto.

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 10:35 PM, Stephen Dias  wrote:
> 
>  Dr Colaco is rightly made his comment :
> 
> Quote:
> 
> "where if one sneezed in Canacona ,
> everybody would hear it all the way in Tiracol ?"
> 
> Subject says " parents" i.e Nuns took babies from parents. 
> Who are the parents? In this case they are unwed mother. Only single parent 
> is affected and not parents as  father who is unofficial unknown. 
> This kind of taking babies is a common issue or practice in Goa,  not only in 
> Salazar's  time but still it continues now, and I know that babies can be 
> taken directly from certain Hospitals or else they are made to disappear from 
> the Hospital and given to the affluent people/families to take them home or 
> even these babies are taken  to other states. It is nothing new and as long 
> as there is no complain,  these babies either are sold or given with some 
> declaration so that these babies are not ill treated. I know there are plenty 
> of  cases here in Goa that such babies are been adopted and they are well 
> taken care with good education etc.etc  This is generally taking place with 
> those parents who do not have any issues.
> 
> Stephen Dias
> Dona Paula
> 
> On 17 September 2016 at 15:50, Roland  wrote:
> "Not a far cry to reflect on this happening to poor and unwed mothers in
> Salazar's Goa where a similar ideology and strict moral code existed."
> 
> Dear Roland,
> 
> Quite a Leap of Speculation and Conspiracy Theorizing.
> 
> Any reasonable and verifiable support for this occurring (exceptions having
> been noted) in a small place like Goa - where if one sneezed in Canacona,
> everybody would hear it all the way in Tiracol ?
> 
> jc

[Goanet] LANGUAGE ISSUE

[celes fernandes]

I like to bring the following points:Yesterday evening when I dialed 1912reg. 
electrical problems, I was surprised to note the difference when we were 
earlierdialing 1912 we were able to understand the language either in English 
orKonkani, but now the system has changed, now there are 3 language options: 
onein Marathi, Hindi, and English for selection of Language. I chose English as 
Iam comfortable to understand and clear the problems faced by consumer. 
Afterselecting the language, I was further given 3 options:- when I selected 
the 2ndoption from the tape recorded message, it asked for consumer no. with 12 
digitsbut on checking the bill the consumer no. does not  have 12 digits but 
consumer i.d. is given.Then it kept on repeating for some time, finally I was 
told I will be directedto the customer representative who will speak to me to 
clear the doubt. Thecustomer rep. came when I took the option of English and he 
talked with meMarathi instead of English though I used option in Englsih but 
since I am notcomfortable in Marathi but could understand and so I replied in 
Konkani. Hesaid voice is not clear and disconnected the line. I thought it must 
be some networkproblem and so again I dialed the Helpline and answered in 
Konkani. Again hedisconnected the second time. At least for me I can understand 
little bit ofMarathi but what about other Goans who have never learned Marathi 
besides theirown Mother tongue Konkani.Earlier while in Bombay, I couldnot well 
versed in Marathi well but when I spoke all others around wouldridicule me as I 
did not have proper grasp of the Marathi  language. But now  when I am in Goa, 
I talked in Konkani believingit is an official language of Goa and is much 
easier to pick up.I understand that about 400electrical line helpers have got 
jobs though many of them  beingMigrants but our locals are neglected as they 
have no say and are not  backed by the dual minded influentialpoliticians.As 
all of us know our ancestralheritage of Konkani is talked in our Society as 
this language makes nodistinction irrespective of community, race, colour etc. 
The Official languageof Konkani is spoken in our society from grassroots level 
and being ourproperty it can be verified with documentary facts. If Konkani 
today getsneglected for the sake of Marathi, our sentimental traditional 
language willnever develop and will have no importance in any level,  be it any 
level  Government or academic etc. for the peaceful  harmony of Goa.  Or else 
it will dry out if neglected by ourwell versed influential politicians around 
the State of Goa. As our well verseddual minded politicians know how to 
misguide the language issue by giving us moreabout statistics of journalists, 
poets, writers etc., who have neglected our traditionallanguage of Kokani. The 
roadmap  of ourlanguage is Konkani and  its History is deeprooted in our 
culture. Its purpose will be defeated as Official Language if itis not used in 
official purpose and it would lead to deletion of thishistorical ancient 
traditional language Kokani in our everyday life. Also Iunderstand that  
Konkani  is Indo Aryan Language.  We all respect the language of Marathi butthe 
cunning master politicians do not respect our Konkani Language and 
misguideGoans.Today our Central  Government has done lot of good like products 
MAKEIN INDA and so now INDIAN ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS MADE IN INDIA also. I 
cantunderstand why the avaricious dual minded politicians especially in Goa 
aretrying their best to gain a POLITICAL mileage before elections and they are 
notbacking INDIAN ENGLISH LANGAUGE AS MADE IN INDIA. Otherwise we make 
everyproduct to be in Made in India successfully forgetting our Indian 
English.Also LED LIGHT BULBS which waspurchased for Rs.25.00 each in June was 
not working and so I called Customercare in Delhi who directed me talk to 
customer care in Goa. Last month whenthey came to Goa , Electricity Dept., I 
showed the faulty LED bulb,  they gave me replacement but now we noticedthat 
other 2 bulbs starts blinking in the night but other tubelights do notblink. I 
thought earlier it was voltage problem but if it was voltage issue, Idon’t 
understand why the other tubelights are not blinking. Inspite of callingthe 
customercare in Goa who does not bother to respond which was given as772208387. 
It is a loss for me and gain for the company who supplied LED BULBS toGoa.Today 
Vidharba wants to carvetheir own State away from  Maharashtradue to various 
factors like neglect of development in that State but it isstrongly opposed by 
the Opposition Lobby who are stopping  the freedom rights of people of 
Vidharbha.Dont you agree that this languageof Konkani will be forgotten and 
neglected if Marathi is given more  importance than our traditional mother 
tongue Konkani. I am sure it can develop if notneglected but otherwise it will 
create differences in minds of Goan youth reg.Language in future. With regards, 
Celes   

[Goanet] why are we born

[Nelson Lopes]

Why ARE WE BORN/?
We are born to die , or reincarnate and yet death cannot be accepted so
sweetly, Death causes great pain,sufferings to the near and dear ones.
words are poor comforters, Only those who loose their loved ones cannot get
over it, we ruminate over all the wonderful qualities, gifts of the person
and how they touched us personally and intimately, There is no elaboration
on the defects and shortcomings, as death puts them into oblivion. We will
not see, hear, talk and touch him any more,and that rattles us the most The
death of the person creates a vacuum in our hearts and mind, The nearness
to the dead person cause agony If the person is young we say that those
whom God loves die young.. when elderly person passes away, it is
understood that he has lived his life When an young child is lost to the
fangs of cruel death, we lament bitterly about creator not being just and
fair, When a sick person dies, we feel it death is the biggest relief and
leveller When people die suddenly in accident, incurable disease our pain
is increased many fold .Some want others to die so that they can benefit
materially through inheritance , promotion etc,when people commit suicides
, we can neither appreciate or understand their predicament and we are apt
to blame their decisions as cowardly Our sympathy and concerns are fiery,
at brutal murders,Those that are hanged for crimes against humanity gives
us solace , consolation,as if to say that wrong is remedied somehow
We never want to think that the same death awaits us, but when we are young
it is an illusion The poem DASH between life and death is very meaningful,
How long is the dash, thick a line, or dotted dash. The quality of life we
live is all that matters to every one Does death make us reflect or
introspect about our behaviours,attitudes envies, jealousies, egos
strengths and weakness and drive us to reform and adjust, We never know the
span of life awaiting us and still we will live as if the death is never on
our agenda We pity children left without the mother or the bread winner,
but death separating us from loved ones is no different in pain and
sufferings What would be our reaction when death is certain and nearly
predictable? would be your priority if death was to come within a week,
month, year, hour or a day
We have all the questions of why, what , how, when but there will be never
be the answer that really satisfies us completely, We console ourselves
rationalising,reasoning, adjustments, projecting reconciling to the
inevitable, spiritual dimensions of faith and belief The will of the
creator has to be accepted absolutely and unequivocally. Do we challenge
the discretations of garderner to pluck some flowers, leave others, or the
farmer plucking the products at different stages for different purposes and
yet leaving some on the tree.?Those who believe in life after death,
resurrections may derive spiritual strength and those who do not believe
are lost unto themselves and mentally their purpose and peace is shattered
The dead person is gift not only to the family, but also to the friends,
neighbours community and the community at large Let us therefore build a
monument to the departed loved one in our hearts and minds,.Rituals,
prayers, and worldly ways help us to reduce our loss and pains
Nelson Lopes Chinchinim

[Goanet] FC Bardez beat Dempo SC in Goa Pro League

[FC Bardez]

Dear Colleagues,

Please find below a match Report   of  Goa Pro league  match of  FC Bardez
vs Dempo SC .  Please print this match report in your respective newspapers.

FC Bardez beat Dempo SC in Goa Pro League

*Kritikesh Gadekar scored the only goal of the match*…

FC Bardez Goa edged past Dempo Sports Club as they recorded a 1-0 win in
the Goa Professional League match played at Duler Stadium earlier today.

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fc_bardez_beat_dempo_sc_in_goa_pro_league

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Re: [Goanet] Spain's Stolen Babies: When Nuns Took Babies From Parents

[Jose Colaco]

MarshallWhat you have written relates to the known, expected and
beneficial Placement of Newborns who their mothers did not want - for more
than one reason. They, likely, would have been aborted or abandoned
otherwise.

What Roland has negligently (IMHO) speculated about is the Stealing of
these babies. It is worth waiting for Roland to provide evidence (even
based on a lower standard ie Preponderance), that such Theft was going on
in Goa during the Salazar era.

jc

On 18 September 2016 at 05:33, Marshall Mendonza 
wrote:

> I wonder how fair and appropriate it is to judge social happenings of 75
> years ago with today's social norms. At least the children were not aborted
> but given in adoption.  I recollect as a child, the people in the
> neighbourhood speak in whispers about a lady who was sent on an enforced
> holiday for one year. I understood the meaning much later in life. Those
> were the days when unwed motherhood was considered a scandal. The
> unfortunate lady would find it difficult to find a husband and the other
> eligible members of the family, a match.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
>
> *In Franco's Spain the Catholic Church, nuns and doctors were
> co-conspirators in operating a criminal ring where young single mothers
> delivering babies in hospitals which in that time were all owned by the
> Church, were led to believe their babies had died. The babies were then
> given for adoption to affluent families.Not a far cry to reflect on this
> happening to poor and unwed mothers in Salazar's Goa where a similar
> ideology and strict moral code existed.-*
> *Roland Francis*
>

Re: [Goanet] Portuguese translation of Marathi book: release on Monday, Sept 19, 2016

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Yes, this is the father (late Pampu Shirodkar, the first Speaker of the Goa
Assembly, who would have probably become chief minister of Goa if Bandodkar
didn't) of the ex-Director of Archives (Dr Prakashchandra P Shirodkar, now
in Bangalore).

>From what the latter told me on phone, this book was written by his dad
while he was still in jail. In those times, the main written languages in
Goa were Portuguese and Marathi. So, I guess, it made sense from him to
translate a book by Tilak from Marathi into Portuguese, both languages he
must have known well.

It might have been done in the 1950s. If he had done it today, the choice
of languages would have obviously been different. (These days, I'm trying
my hand at Portuguese-to-English simple translations, despite my obvious
handicaps.)

I understand that Dr Shirodkar has himself been facing health issues, and
he's trying his best to publish some of his late father's unpublished
manuscripts, together with help from the family. As an aside, Dr
Shirodkar's sister is Dr Walke, a popular doctor who has served in Saligao
(along with her late husband) for the past 4-5 decades now. His younger
brother, Prasanna, has been a long-time member of the editorial desk of the
Gomantak Times, probably since its founding in 1987. (Am subject to
correction over the dates specially.)

Which is why

FN

On 18 September 2016 at 18:53, Eugene Correia 
wrote:

> Is this Shirodkar the same one who waa freedom-fighter and later a
> politician (father of historian PP Shirodkar)? May I ask why in Portuguese?
> Are there enough readers of Portuguese in Goa, or is the ai to target the
> Portuguese markets in Portugal and in the rest of the world?
> Would translating in Konkani not be okay?
>
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Re: [Goanet] A symphony orchestra in Bombay

[Eugene Correia]

My dad played violin in one of the Bombay orchestras. and I think it was
the Bombay Chamber Orchestra, if I remember correctly as I was young when
he took me to attend the concert, mostly at the Jehangir Hall in Wodehouse.
Now, what's the difference between Symphony Orchestra and Chamber
Orchestra?

Eugene

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* فريدريك نورونيا  wrote:

> The story of the Western classical symphony orchestra in Mumbai, or, Bombay
> as it was known back then, begins in 1920 with a gentleman named Edward
> Behr. Bombay at the time had seen many smaller scale Western classical
> music performances, usually consisting of songs from light operas or solo
> instrumentalists, organised by various amateur musical societies and almost
> entirely dominated by the city’s British residents.
>
> Behr, a German citizen educated at the Royal College of Music in London,
> was the conductor of the Governor’s Band and leader of several small scale
> light opera productions in the city. In June 1920 he wrote a long and
> detailed letter to the Times of India outlining his plan for the formation
> of a full Symphony Orchestra, the first of it’s kind.
>
> http://serenademagazine.com/features/symphony-orchestra-bombay/
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Re: [Goanet] Portuguese translation of Marathi book: release on Monday, Sept 19, 2016

[Eugene Correia]

Is this Shirodkar the same one who waa freedom-fighter and later a
politician (father of historian PP Shirodkar)? May I ask why in Portuguese?
Are there enough readers of Portuguese in Goa, or is the ai to target the
Portuguese markets in Portugal and in the rest of the world?
Would translating in Konkani not be okay?

eugene

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या
*فريدريك نورونيا  wrote:

> The Shirodkar and Chodankar families cordially invite you to grace the
> function to release the book in Portuguese “Gita Rahasya”, a translation
> from the Marathi “Gita Rahasya” of Lokmanya B.G. Tilak by the late
> Rashtraveer Pandurang Purushottam alias Pampu Shirodkar on Monday, 19th
> September 2016 at Xavier Centre of Historical Research, Alto Porvorim at
> 4.00 p.m
>
> The function is open to the public.
>

[Goanet] : For the love of dance.

[Con Menezes]

  https://vimeo.com/10312756

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Re: [Goanet] Spain's Stolen Babies: When Nuns Took Babies From Parents

[Gilbert Lawrence]

From: Roland  Re: [Goanet] Spain's Stolen Babies: When Nuns Took Babies


All it took there was the might and power of the Catholic Church to drown out 
all the questioners and in Goa there was also the prospect of the local 
'Quartels'.  The influence of the church in Spain or Goa during Franco or 
Salazar was not to be trifled with.


GL responds:

So exactly what did you want the unwed pregnant mothers to do?

Have a back alley abortion like millions of unwed mothers do today?  Is that 
holocaust better?

And if the young girl has the baby?

In centuries gone by, unwed mothers with babies were even ostracized by their 
own parents and families. 

Look at the number of orphanages today where babies are brought to by their 
parents on grandparents for adoption.

Perhaps Roland as a very generous fellow (and others interested in this 
subject) should support one of these orphanages.  

Please google "Homes of Hope India".

We are talking about historical facts without putting it in context - then or 
now

Regards, GL

[Goanet] Portuguese translation of Marathi book: release on Monday, Sept 19, 2016

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

The Shirodkar and Chodankar families cordially invite you to grace the
function to release the book in Portuguese “Gita Rahasya”, a translation
from the Marathi “Gita Rahasya” of Lokmanya B.G. Tilak by the late
Rashtraveer Pandurang Purushottam alias Pampu Shirodkar on Monday, 19th
September 2016 at Xavier Centre of Historical Research, Alto Porvorim at
4.00 p.m

The function is open to the public.

[Goanet] Spain's Stolen Babies: When Nuns Took Babies From Parents

[Marshall Mendonza]

I wonder how fair and appropriate it is to judge social happenings of 75
years ago with today's social norms. At least the children were not aborted
but given in adoption.  I recollect as a child, the people in the
neighbourhood speak in whispers about a lady who was sent on an enforced
holiday for one year. I understood the meaning much later in life. Those
were the days when unwed motherhood was considered a scandal. The
unfortunate lady would find it difficult to find a husband and the other
eligible members of the family, a match.

Regards,

Marshall




*In Franco's Spain the Catholic Church, nuns and doctors were
co-conspirators in operating a criminal ring where young single mothers
delivering babies in hospitals which in that time were all owned by the
Church, were led to believe their babies had died. The babies were then
given for adoption to affluent families.Not a far cry to reflect on this
happening to poor and unwed mothers in Salazar's Goa where a similar
ideology and strict moral code existed.-*
*Roland Francis*