In connection with the foiled plot to allegedly blow up passenger aircraft
in waves over the Atlantic using liquid/ gelatine explosives smuggled on
board as innocuous household products and evading detectors and then
assembling and detonating them in the air, it has been reported by HERALD
that
1.Chief Minister, Digambar Kamat has allayed apprehensions raised over the
Dabolim airport following the nod given by the high-level committee for a
new airport at Mopa and asserted that the Union government would soon
tender bids for construction of a new terminal building at Dabolim on par
Today's Times of India has a story headlined Dabolim's closure will hit
economy: Its fate has given rise to mixed reactions. This seems to be a
fall out of the Herald report (see my post of July 18th). The TOI report,
which highlights the views of some people in high places, is a stark
Here is a reply I got to a fwd of my goanet post from a journo who writes
on aviation in Business Standard. She has previously written (glowing)
accounts about the new airports in Bangalore and Hyderabad, (trashing the
old civil enclaves roundly in the process).
I am confused. Do the Goan people
Some very useful food for thought in today's TOI story headlined Dr Sidhu
sworn in governor. As previously reported Sidhu has served as Secretary
General, International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), an organ of
United Nations, Canada, from 1988 to 1991 and has also headed our public
1. Personally, I think this Mopa-Dabolim wrangling is not necessarily a bad
thing. Delaying the decision making process means that there is one less
trough for some of the corrupt politicians to feed out off. Let the struggle
continue!!Marlon (Menezes)
We are not babes in the woods, ok? But given
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About three weeks ago I had proposed a thought-experiment, a brain storming
exercise regarding the Mopa airport project. The first step was to review an
actual report about one of India's newly operational airports (Bangalore or
Hyderabad) to see how it would fit with ideas about Mopa as presently
Forgetting the obvious tautological formulation of the title , and the
contradiction in the opening sentence (draft final report!) for a moment,
the content of the editorial is insidious to put it mildly.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=080117
1. It blandly states that [Mopa]
This in continuation of the two-flights-of-fancy game introduced earlier
to get a hang of the Mopa airport project. For those joining us here, the
idea is, firstly, to check out actual reports of new airports (usually
Bangalore) and try it out for size as far as Goa is concerned. The next step
is
Today's TOI has a story titled GPCC panel backs plans for Mopa. In it
Francisco Sardinha displays touching faith in the PM's assurance that
there should be n doubt regarding two-airpor operation in Goa after the
Centre passes a Rs 500 crore budget for Dabolim airport. After? There's
many a slip
As the ICAO itself said in its draft final report (to use
NT'scharacterisation) it is of utmost imprtance for the Government of Goa
toestablish an airport development strategy for Mopa which is win-win
forboth the airports, given **the small amount of airport traffic** of the
state. This is what
In our series on playing with the Bangalore analogue to get Mopa right, here
is a telling comment in TOI (Blr) which we may need to pay heed to. In an
article Will [Infosys mentor] Murthy come back on board of BIAL? it says
'Murthy was on the board when the company had a different standing.
'Russian aircraft carrier could cost India USD 2 bn more' New Delhi, Aug 1 :
India could end up paying a staggering USD 2 billion more for a Russian
aircraft it has bought from Russia for USD 1.5 billion, a defence ministry
source said Friday.
Continuation of Two flights of fancy, Game theory etc posts. Centre for
probe into BIAL lapses.
http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Aug42008/state2008080382608.asp
When opinion was sought on the decision of the Karnataka Legislative
Assembly to set up a House Committee to look into the alleged
1.There is just one landing strip in Dabolim, and the same strip has tobe
crossed by planes for parking. Incidently, even there is a roadpassing
through that strip, and cars and bikes also cross that stripbetween landings
of two planes. :-)I have witnessed even a 45 minuteswait before getting
Two TOI reports today on related subjects and the same old tiresome
arguments. Isnt it possible to get off dead centre and make some headway in
thinking? Here are excerpts from the two reports and my responses:
1. S Goa Zilla says no to Mopa airport. Excerpts: 'Two airports are not
economically
PhilipYou had mentioned about there being a need to have a distance of 150
kms between twoairports. What is the basis for this law?In the US, a city
such as New York has three airports within a distanceof 150 kms. So, this
law seems ridiculous and if at all there is one, one would liketo know the
1. 'BIAL deviated from designs' DH News Service, Bangalore: Minister for
IT and BT, Katta Subramanya Naidu has charged Bangalore International
Airport Limited (BIAL) with deviating from the original blue print while
executing the work on air terminus. We wanted an airport of international
MoCA wants to reduce the minimum distance between two airports
New Delhi: The Ministry of Civil Aviation (MoCA) is planning grid of
airports across the country in such a way that there will be **an airport
within 50 kms. radius from any point** in the next ten years, according to a
statement made
Currently, air tickets on 14 th of August to fly to Goa from Bangalore
areupwards of Rs. 8,000 and in some cases Rs. 12,000 + one way if at allthey
are available. I think flying to Singapore instead from Bangalore would come
cheaper. No wonder, there are rumors of people raking in thousands of
Two reports on the much touted Tourism Meet of Aug 8 are worrisome to put it
mildly. One compounds the confusion in the other. These reports appeared in
HERALD and TOI of Aug 9. HERALD says Gov[ernor] links top notch airports to
tourism. For good measure he is said to have added if Bangalore and
The study jointly conducted by the NCAER and Future Capital Research says
the 20 top boom cities and towns in India will have their annual household
income grow at 10 per cent over the next eight years. These urban centres
already account for 60 per cent of the surplus income (income minus
Bleeding airlines cut Goa flights16 Aug 2008, 0509 hrs IST, Gauree
Malkarnekar,TNN
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Bleeding_airlines_cut_Goa_flights/art
icleshow/3369928.cms
In view of the grim scenario, airlines have cut flights. Airlines have
themselves officially admitted that they are
The huge growth in air travel to Goa and other destinations was due tolow
fares offered by airlines. Due to various reasons, the low fare erahas gone,
and so the air traffic has dropped. It is as straightforward asthat; nothing
more to read into it. regards,Samir
Here is a report on changes in
In today's HERALD. the column by Tomcat briefly heaped scorn on the link
made by Churchill Alemao between the Amarnath imbroglio in JK and the Mopa
airport project here in Goa. Alemao of course (well, off and on) wants Mopa
to be a nonstarter. So what is Amarnath all about? Here is a primer of
In TOI 16/8/08, there is this article headlined Churchill uses I-Day
platform to slam govt. In it there is this line: [Alemao] cautioned the
government against going ahead with the Mopa airport as that would be
'disastrous' for Goa and Goans. Now this is all very well and good if the
Mopa airport
Check out the opening lines of TOI's 19/8/08 story titled 'Monsoon session:
Netas get down to business: Airport issue addressed, Oppn takes pot shots at
govt'. The Chief Minister Digambar Kamat on Monday assured the legislative
assembly that Dabolim airport will be maintained as the international
Almost every major industrial project in the country finds it easy to
procure licences and permissions from the Centre and state governments. You
can predict, more or less, how long it will take to get a Foreign Direct
Investment (FDI) application through, where necessary, and then other
QUESTION: Are you so much in the know, that you can make thestatements that
you do and are you so confident that it will be asmall Airport linking only
the locality?Even if this is the case, why burden the Goan tax payer for
somethingwhich will benefit only a few - perhaps more benefit for
Fighting fit Huma Siddiqui Posted online: Monday , August 11, 2008 at 21:26
hrs
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Fighting-fit/347037/
The need to be deployable and battle-ready applies just as much to aircraft
maintenance capabilities as it does to the fighter aircraft itself. In
recent
This is in continuation of the one-two strategy to put the Mopa airport
project in proper shape for Goa's sake. The basic idea is to 1) study the
available analogues (usually Bangalore) for pointers and 2) ponder what, if
anything, should be different in Mopa.
BIAL is a functional airport DH
Narayan Murthy says that talent is anyday more important than
infrastructure.[Samir Kelekar]
Murthy is only echoing what IBM's chief said years ago: Take all IBM
infrastructure but leave its people and IBM will return to its former glory.
The Japanese companies also laid great store by their
There seems to be a tendency in this thread so far to confuse well managed
private corporations with a chaotic democratic state like Goa.
This response seems to confuse the purpose of exemplars such as well managed
MNCs for the improvement of functioning anarchies like Goa. The MNCs
(including
We need infrastructure and human resource at appropriate levels... from
1992, village schools teach Marathi and/or Konkani up to Std.IV and then
shift to English medium of instruction in Std.V resulting in high failure
rate. It has widened the gap between the haves and the have nots as the
ones
Well, well, well it transpires that the Mopa project is being pushed
through in the interests of the Politicians - not the interests of the
people of Goa. These guys want to fill their boots.**Furthermore, the so
called resident expert on Air Travel relatedmatters, needs to do more than
some
The tragic death of Kundaim young lass Supriya Naik at Ribandar on
22ndAugust morning may technically be a road accident but the PWD engineers
aredefinitely to be blamed for her death. The despicable condition of the
roadfrom Sao Pedro to Ribandar Patto after it was carelessly dug to lay a
A commercially oriented machine, without heart or soul
http://www.thehindu.com/2008/08/23/stories/2008082353860400.htm
Bangalore has waited for over a decade for a decent airport that measured
up to the splendid image that its IT industry has created for India. What it
has got is a cold,
The real problem is the commute from the city. But I believe that can't be
held againstthe airport. Today, there is news that a six lane elevated
highway isgoing to be built soon from Hebbal to the airport. [Samir
Kelekar]
Thanks, Samir, for sharing your personal experience with BIA. This is the
It is highly unlikely that both Dabolim and Mopa will remain operational
simultaneously. Goa which is a much smaller place than Bangalore or
Hyderabad cannot economically sustain two airports. Mopa has vested
interests as Rajan earlier commented. There are people who have purchased
vast tracts of
Dabolim Airport is still underconsideration apparently from Manmohan Singh and
the Union Civil Aviation Minister.
http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8880cid=2 If we all rally together,
Dabolim Airport will emerge the winner. This was an excellent input, Marina. I
was thinking that as
1.I do not accept your statement of DabolimAND Mopa This is the position of
the Goa Government, ok? I am just following through on the logic, Marlon.
2.Your support for Mopa is for it to be a'regional airport', is intended to be
a compromisebetween the two conflicting parties (Dabolim and
The goal should be to restore Dabolim as a full-time civilian airport which
will more than serve the aviation needs of Goa, The land scam Mopa is not
needed and no one should promote land scams in Goa. The Indian navy can move
to bases outside Goa.Regards,George
To achieve the goal Dabolim needs
like Mopa v/sDabolim;everyone can debate BUT only a few will decide
...based onfinancial feasibility. It is all about money, honey.Mog
asundi.Miguel
It may be better to debate and go in with eyes wide open than get
collectively screwed in a blissful state of ignorance. Sure it is about
money.
TOI Aug 26,'08: State administration is ultimate authority on airport
issue: CM. Some of the jarring notes: 1)Kamat categorically assured that
the Dabolim airport would be retained even IF the government pursued the
Mopa airport project. It should have been when. 2) The government ...
has decided
What extra economics benefits will Goa get through Mopa, that we cannotget
through Dabolim, if Dabolim airport is developed? Any takers ? Like
thesaying goes do not take from the mouth of your children and offer it
tooutsiders when the lives of your very own are at stake and that's
Tuesday, August 26, 2008 Asian airlines shed `flab' to cut fuel costs
With every gram carried on board equating to fuel, airlines are taking a
closer look at what's on board and making some inventive changes to cut
their fuel costs.
Philip Thomas wrote:So the solution is smple. Do not make Mopa an
international airport. Keep it a regional airport catering to small town
airports emerging in surrounding areas and secondary airports of metros if
any. It will play second fiddle to Dabolim and hopefully grow over time
Logically, Dabolim airport in its centralised location serves both North
and South equally well in terms of distance, pricing of taxi fares etc.
With the exception of a certain district in North Goa and other vested
interests in Maharashtra, the entire state of Goa seems to want Dabolim
1.If Dabolim is not going to be viable in the long rundue to military
constraints, then why even bothercontinue to operate it in the long term,
unless it ismeant to serve the vested economic interests of thepeople in
Dabolim? By parroting the Government's line of having twoairports, you, like
the
IAF's MiG-29 crashes near Jamnagar
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1187179
This is the sixth aircrash being suffered by the IAF this year and **the
fifth MiG-29 to crash since June 2006**
Dabolim is to be the base for MiG-29Ks, the naval variant. At this rate
Dabolim's MiG-29K fleet
'Keep old airports at Bangalore, Hyderabad functional'
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/09/01/stories/2008090150240600.htm
Official sources, however, felt that there could be logistical problems in
segregating traffic between two airports in the same city. If a passenger
was to travel
Domestic airlines hit more air pockets
http://www.thehindu.com/biz/2008/09/01/stories/2008090150021500.htm
As a Commercial Manager of a private airline puts it: We have tried our
best to cut costs. A series of economy measures, especially on fuel
consumption, has been launched. We carry less fuel,
Long and short of the new Delhi runway A. Ranganathan
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/09/03/stories/2008090351240900.htm
The Delhi airport expansion plan was conceived in 1969 by the JRD Tata
committee. The third runway was one of the recommendations. This suggestion
was unheeded until
Maha airport project gets ministry nod
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Maha-airport-project-gets-ministry-nod/
356996/
A proposal to set up a Greenfield airport in Sindhudurg in Maharashtra was
accorded 'in-principle' approval by the civil aviation ministry on
Wednesday.
The Maharashtra
The new runway atDelhi is 14,534 feet long - the longest in Asia. But there
is a catch. **Thefirst 4,800 feet is not available for landing because of
the Shiv Murthistatue, which was installed 25 years after the parallel
runway concept wasinitiated.** The longest runway, therefore, gets
Some time back I was upbraided for rewording chaotic democracy as
functioning anarchy. Here is confirmation of my choice of terminology by
ET which had recently echoed (by coincidence or intent) my phrase
eyeopener in a positive vein in connection with Delhi airport's new
runway.
Anarchic republic
Airport, a sitting duck?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Airport_a_sitting_duck/rssarticles
how/3450709.cms
NAGPUR: At a time when terrorists are virtually striking in the country at
will, city's international airport appears strangely vulnerable despite
increased need for security.
The Centre on Thursday approved a domestic airport for Sindhudurg district,
which borders Goa. The proposed greenfield airport would come within just
about 100 km north of Goa's congested Dabolim airport - which is mainly for
the navy... in response to the state government's proposal to set up a
Goa will never get a proper airport if the decision is left to local
politicians. The centre knows that if India is to develop, it requires
massive expenditure on infrastructure. India desperately needs to build
roads, airports and portsPersonally, I would put a lot more trust in the
Plane crashes into Hyderabad residential area
http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1662327
Hyderabad: A trainee pilot and an instructor were killed when a small
aircraft crashed on to a residential area of the city Monday. The mishap
took place in Sanathnagar neighbourhood
Airport zone Facilities: Big opportunity for developers
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/09/08/stories/2008090850760600.htm
Internationally, airports offer more than core aviation services. They are
centres of hospitality, retail spaces, and even sometimes function as
alternative central
Mevyn say:
1) Let the contractors (and not the people of Goa) bear the burden of making
the new airport profitable.
2) Two civilian airports is the dumbest of all ideas.
3) It's time the Indian Govt took a clue from Cuba who turned eight air
force fields into international airports.
Confucius
In fact this team of 15 members assembled by the Goa government has the
grandiose mission to make Goa a First world state ( Experts to help chart
Goa's future, TOI Sept 12). It seems to have a roughly even mix of insiders
(8) and outsiders (7) but a predominance of public policy and finance
On the front page of TOI is the following plain vanilla report:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Dabolim_expansion_likely_from_Dece
mber/rssarticleshow/3491992.cms
But inside there is a largish story by Ajay Thakur titled Turbulence in air
on ground. With a sub-title which reads Goa's
For two or three years we have been hearing about this upgrade. All we were
told was that it would cost Rs 500 crores. Of late some information is
trickling out regarding the elements involved. Still the picture is foggy.
Part of thee reason for this is the lack of memory in the media. They just
Bangalore int'l airport heading for bankruptcy By Faye D'Souza/CNBC-TV18
http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/business/bangalore-intl-airport-headi
ng-for-bankruptcy/20/20/352054
It does seem like the Semiens, LT, and Zurich airports consortium that
built the Bengaluru International Airport is
Bial's second runway proposal irks IAF: The air force objects to proposed
location of the runway, saying proximity to its airbase may affect
operations Tarun Shukla
http://www.livemint.com/2008/09/18232153/Bial8217s-second-runway-pro.html?h=
B
New Delhi: Bangalore's new airport, already buffeted
This is a story about the city of Sydney's second airport which keeps being
talked about but nothing ever gets done to realise it.
http://blogs.smh.com.au/urbanjungle/2008/09/sydneys_disappe.html
Sydney's disappearing second airport The search for a second airport has
become a great Sydney
India Inc shocked over remarks by Fernandes
New Delhi: Industry on Tuesday reacted with shock and horror over remarks by
Labour Minister Oscar Fernandes that lynching of a CEO in Noida on Monday
should serve as a warning to managements.
I am shocked over the minister's comments, FICCI President
The clobbering to death of the CEO of a Greater Noida-based Indian
subsidiary of an Italian auto components company is, doubtless, a grave
criminal act. There should be no hesitation in punishing workers allegedly
responsible for Lalit Kishore Chaudhury's death, under relevant provisions
of
The Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad (IIMA) held its first
management development program (MDP) in Aviation Management this week. I was
invited by the coordinator, Prof G. Raghuram a transportation authority, who
holds the Indian Railways chair at IIMA (and who wrote a path-breaking
Task cut out for BIAL House panel
BANGALORE: Has Bengaluru International Airport Limited (BIAL) fully
utilised the 4,000 acres allotted to it? Can the excess land, if any, be
withdrawn? Why did the airport project cost shoot up from Rs 1,350 crore to
Rs 2,700 crore? These are some of the posers
Save Goa, CM-ji: HERALD(Goa), Nov 18, 2007
... Minuscule Goa is imperiled by 18 behemoths called Special Economic Zones
(SEZs.)Land requirement details of 15 were ferreted out by journo Fred
Noronha: 54,30,160sq. metres [Valmiki Faleiro]
Is this figure correct? Should it have been 54
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mean high profile stories, but even small successes in our locality,
neighborhood, villages or cities. The more we find out about them and get
inspired, the better it will be for us to achieve success that might be
waiting to
In today's HERALD there is an incendiary article titled A wake up call by
Diana Pinto. It says: It was only the people's protest that saved Goa
from destruction through the Regional Plan 2011. Again in the case of the
SEZs it is only when the people came out in the streets to assert their
I am a Goan , resident in Spain and have been witness to thecolonization
of Spain by the Germans , the Latinos and the Englishin particular besides
the wealthy East Europeans and the Russians.Immigration has been good for
Spain but along with the good comes theinevitable. The scoundrels , the rich
To nitpick a bit, the subject should be MP wishes to speak to
'goanetters'. If so, why doesnt he just come on line and discuss
individually, or declaim to the group, as deemed fit (just like any other
goanetter) instead of this question collection, moderation etc charade.
Judging by the questions
Manohar Parrikar wishes to speak to Goanet is justfine. Use Google to find
out what the figure of speech metonymy is, and while you are at it, also
read up on synecdoche.Regards,r
Look up nitpicking in your Funk Wagnalls. And while you are at it try to
respond to the substantive comment as well.
SHORTAGE OF AIRCRAFT IN NAVY
---16:37 IST /LOK SABHA/ The Indian Navy is facing shortage of Sea Harrier
aircraft. The ongoing upgrade of Sea Harrier programme has also temporarily
affected the availability of the aircraft.
Contract for the limited upgrade of Sea Harrier aircraft was concluded
We will post the finalized roster of questions posed by Goanetters here. In
addition, we may ask him more questions at the time of the
recording.Regards,r
Three guidelines for the answers by MP to goanetters' questions:
1. Separate the fundamental long term problems of Goa from the urgent short
Here are three questions which may be vital for Goa's long term (25-30 year)
future (beginnng NOW):
1. How to implement the two (GOAN) airports option proposed by the Goa
government to the Union Civil Aviation Ministry. The flip side of this
question involves ensuring that Goa does not end up
5. Would you prefer having a new airport for Goa or expanding the existing
one? Why?[Yash Ganthe]
The author's formulation of this question is rather dated. Hence it is
likely to elicit a response on unhelpful lines from someone who is as
knowledgeable as MP. At best, the latter will simply
5. Would you prefer having a new airport for Goa or expanding theexisting
one? Why?A. We need a new airport for the tourists. How else will they go
tothe Marina at Tiracol that my friend Digambar is setting up now? Theold
airport can be retained for the locals, if desired. MPT isplanning a cruise
Miguel -- I was just focusing on the grain of truth in your tongue in
cheek response. Fyi, I did not start taking the airport issue seriously
after seeing your post(s). I have been at it on goanet for over 3 years. If
the folks at BLR and HYD had been reading them they would have started
making a
Aircraft carrier without aircraft - Depleted fleet of fighter jets makes
navy flagship a sitting duck SUJAN DUTTA
New Delhi, March 9: The Indian Navy's only aircraft carrier is almost bereft
of aircraft.
Nearly the entire depleted fleet of the INS Viraat's Sea Harrier jump-jet
fleet has been
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IE120080308234345
On utilising the facility for training pilots, the HAL official said, there
is good scope for that business as not many airports in the country are able
to impart training. ''Airlines can utilise the facility for training their
pilots
There is a general feeling that Parriker is a BJP moderate. Leaving aside
Parriker's own sins of commission and omission, let us not forget, Parriker
is part of a larger party, one that has never been able to reign in its
extremists.[Selma]
I think Selma is absolutely right in drawing the
Navy surfs on froth of failed contracts
SUJAN DUTTA
New Delhi, March 15: A friend whose father was in the navy has this take on
the service. In the 1980s, when there was a demand for a second aircraft
carrier, an air force officer had wondered aloud at a cocktail what the navy
was going to do with
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