RE: [h-cost] CostumeCon and projects

Sadly it looks like I will have to miss the Con. I am in the process of looking for a new vehicle and so my finances will be tight. :( It's wittled down to a Matrix and a CR-V. De ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon and projects

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, E House wrote: > I'd say let's all figure out a way to meet up while we're there, but I > expect we'll all be meeting in Robin's classes, anyway! Y'know, the obvious thing would be for the h-cost people to meet either before my official class time, or during the lunch break.

Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon and projects

I'm planning to go to CostumeCon, too. It'll be my first one, and I plan to make a few things to wear there, but I'm still trying to figure out what I should make for it (other than my one Impressive Gown, and that piratish coat I've been meaning to make all this past year but never got around

Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress

On Saturday 06 January 2007 12:23 am, LuAnn Mason wrote: > Penny, I get mine at the local bead shop, but if you Google "kevlar beading > thread" it can be mail ordered for about $2.50 a spool. > Sorry, I missed this message the first time! Please ignore my reply a;sking the same question. Thanks

Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress (was: movie costumes--Egyptian)

On Friday 05 January 2007 8:33 pm, LuAnn Mason wrote: > Dental floss would be one option, but ever since I discovered kevlar > beading thread, I haven't used dental floss again. The kevlar is nice and > thin like regular thread, cuts easily, and doesn't fray like dental floss. > Just an alternati

Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress

No problem, Penny. I think you'll be pleased with the results. It's not period, of course, but it is effective and doesn't visually detract from the final appearance. LuAnn - Original Message - From: Penny Ladnier To: Historical Costume

Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress

Thank you Luann! Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/

[h-cost] Re: Costume-Con

At 09:06 PM 1/5/2007, you wrote: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:33:47 -0600 (CST) From: Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [h-cost] CostumeCon (was: Movies and ancient costume) At this point, I think they haven't assigned rooms yet, because they're still working out the other panels. Yes,

[h-cost] Re: Costume-Con

At 09:11 PM 1/5/2007, you wrote: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:34:11 -0600 From: Suzanne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [h-cost] CostumeCon and projects Answering more than one question at once: Yes, I plan on going to CostumeCon. Mostly for the Netherton sequence ;-) but what the heck, might as w

Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress

Penny, I get mine at the local bead shop, but if you Google "kevlar beading thread" it can be mail ordered for about $2.50 a spool. HTH-- LuAnn - Original Message - From: Penny Ladnier To: Historical Costume Sent: Friday, Jan

Re: [h-cost] CostumeCon (was: Movies and ancient costume)

Actually, the main draw for me is that it's within driving distance of where I live. I SO wish there was more costuming stuff near Kansas City. (Is a Dickens Fair too much to ask?) But I'll be happy to tell them it's all about the historical lectures. :) Dawn and I wanted to go last year

Re: [h-cost] Movies and ancient costume

I have heard about that theory, but I didn't know the name of the historian. It makes a lot of sense to me; I've seen replicas of those ancient split-level houses on TV. Regarding the resonance of the scene in the barn, you have a point. I guess the modern concept of a Nativity scene is a

Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress

Luann, Where do you purchase the Kevlar thread? I am dealing with metal beads from the 1920s and scared they might cut the thread. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___

RE: [h-cost] The bead-net dress (was: movie costumes--Egyptian)

size "D" beading floss works about the same and is a little cheaper the dental floss. But if you can't get beading floss then dental is the way to go. And if you do not want to repair beadwork on a garment that you created "DO NOT" use regular sewing thread, no matter how much the thread matches. (

[h-cost] CostumeCon and projects

Answering more than one question at once: Yes, I plan on going to CostumeCon. Mostly for the Netherton sequence ;-) but what the heck, might as well stay for Sunday, too. Since I've never gone before, what do I need to know ahead of time? Costuming is a hobby, not my profession, so I'm

Re: victorian wedding clothes, was [h-cost] Another film costume rant

I wore an off the shoulder wedding gown in 1978 in a Baptist church. No one frowned upon it. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h

RE: [h-cost] RE: Victorian wedding clothes,

I love this site's zoom. :) I wonder if the lace seen on the back of the skirt is a ruffle or bow. Yeah, the drawback with this site is that you can't see the back. :P De -Original Message- If you zoom in you will see that there is lace coming from the bodice peaking up from behind the s

Re: [h-cost] RE: vest on Wedding Dress

Maybe a "bolero" ? Susan "Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for".  - "Ride the Dark Trail" by Louis L'Amour On Jan 5, 2007, at 2:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/5/2007 2:37:47 P.M. Eastern Stan

RE: [h-cost] RE: victorian wedding clothes,

On Fri Jan 5 14:18 , 'otsisto' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >I had not noticed before but this has a vest(?) on it. > It's not a vest. It's a shaped fichu; triangular back ending at the waist, long tails that come over the shoulder then wrap to the back and tie. It is trimmed with box pleated

Re: [h-cost] movie costumes--Egyptian

Speaking of ancient costume history, are any of you expert in the field of Mesopotamian costume? I'm wondering what else might have been dug up in that area since I studied costume history. Anyone know any good books on the subject? Sylrog Not so much costume as cooking... but the Assyrian

Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress (was: movie costumes--Egyptian)

Dental floss would be one option, but ever since I discovered kevlar beading thread, I haven't used dental floss again. The kevlar is nice and thin like regular thread, cuts easily, and doesn't fray like dental floss. Just an alternative LuAnn in Washington - Original Message -

Re: [h-cost] Schaube

The overrobe part is called a gown, among other terms (see my other post on that). The part with the skirt at later times was called a jerkin, but early on in the 16th c. was termed a jacquette or jacket. The jacket would have the U shaped opening, or sometimes V shaped, or closed down the front

Re: [h-cost] Schaube

Schaube is the German word for what the English called a gown, according to Cunnington's book (Handbook of English Costume in the 16th Century). Another term used in England for what is probably the Henry VIII style gown is "shamew", "chammer", or "chymer". However, the descriptions for both app

Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress (was: movie costumes--Egyptian)

On Friday 05 January 2007 12:51 pm, Lynn Downward wrote: > Robin, thank you for sending us that link. It's only fabulous! > > Warning in case someone is thinking of making that dress, even for a > doll: I do some net beading - my sister calls it the insane beading - > and the way that net dress was

RE: [h-cost] Schaube

If you want one like the Henry VIII robe, there's a pattern in the Tudor Tailor book. Here are some dress diaries for women's schaubes: http://www.curiousfrau.com/Diaries/Schaube.htm http://myra.hem.nu/costume/DressDairies/Schaube/Schaube_Dairy.htm http://catrijn.blogspot.com/search/

[h-cost] movie costume (more recent)

I fell in love with the clothes worn by Naomi Watts in "The Painted Veil." It's set in the mid-1920s, and the clothes (designed by Ruth Meyer) follow somewhat her character's development from a spoiled flightly socialite to someone rather different (no spoilers). Does anybody know how accu

Re: [h-cost] re Victorian wedding gowns

Thanks, I remembered the article, but could not put my hand on the issue. The dress is lovely. I've always wanted to copy it. Katy On 1/5/07, Dawn Luckham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: About the San Francisco wedding dress: There is an article in "Dress,The Annual Journal of the Costume Society

[h-cost] CostumeCon (was: Movies and ancient costume)

I was going to respond to this as part of my previous post, but it seemed to deserve its own subject line... On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Robin, I intend to be at CostumeCon for your lecture, but I haven't > registered yet. I hope there's still room; I'm really excited about > i

[h-cost] Movies and ancient costume

Since we're talking about ancient costume, and somebody mentioned Jewish, does anybody know any reliable books on Biblical costume? I've always wanted to sculpt a Nativity scene, but I have no idea as to what appropriate costumes would look like. I did an admittedly shallow search a couple of ye

Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress

Lynn, I too have had an interest in ancient Egypt's history since a child. I took a week long masters level class in Egyptian art. They brought in experts from all the world to lecture. One expert had been doing Egyptian archaeology at one site since the early 1960s. These experts could agr

[h-cost] re Victorian wedding gowns

About the San Francisco wedding dress: There is an article in "Dress,The Annual Journal of the Costume Society of America" 1980, Volume 5. The article written by Shane Alder is entitled "A Diary and a Dress". The dress was made by (for?) Mehitable Berry Felton to wear at her wedding to Jame

Re: [h-cost] Moda a Firenze - reprint

Quoting Mary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I was poking around on the Polistampa website, which I believe is the publisher of the Moda a Firenze book. They have a notice on the site that they will reprint the book and it will be available in April 2007. If you pre-order it now, you get a 30% di

[h-cost] RE: Schaube

>From the German Ren list: There are a few period patterns (Italian and Spanish) for schaube-like garments: http://www.elizabethancostume.net/schnittbuch http://www.elizabethancostume.net/Tailors And Alcega's pattern book also has some "sleeved cloak" type patterns. I don't know of any commercia

Re: [h-cost] RE: victorian wedding clothes,

A few years ago in a Costume Society of America journal there was an article on this same wedding dress, there might have even been a pattern diagram. It might have been 1990: "Fashion on the Frontier." Can't find the issue at the moment. I seem to recall the owner was heading west to get marrie

RE: [h-cost] Moda a Firenze - reprint

I went to the site, but didn't see notice of a discount. Patty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Moda a Firenze - reprint I was poking around on the Polist

[h-cost] Moda a Firenze - reprint

I was poking around on the Polistampa website, which I believe is the publisher of the Moda a Firenze book. They have a notice on the site that they will reprint the book and it will be available in April 2007. If you pre-order it now, you get a 30% discount (off of 58 Euros). However, if you

Re: [h-cost] Movies and ancient costume

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Since we're talking about ancient costume, and somebody mentioned > Jewish, does anybody know any reliable books on Biblical costume? I've > always wanted to sculpt a Nativity scene, but I have no idea as to > what appropriate costumes would look like

Re: [h-cost] RE: victorian wedding clothes,

In a message dated 1/5/2007 2:37:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but this has a vest(?) on it. * If you zoom in you will see that there is lace coming from the bodice peaking up from behind the skirt. Something is going on in the back. Maybe som

Re: [h-cost] RE: victorian wedding clothes,

I had not seen them, thank you for sharing. They are beautiful. Vicky otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You have probably seen these but just in case, Victorian wedding dresses http://tinyurl.com/y2eg4f http://tinyurl.com/y92ao6 http://tinyurl.com/y5aaga http://search.famsf.org:8080/vi

RE: [h-cost] RE: victorian wedding clothes,

I had not noticed before but this has a vest(?) on it. -Original Message- http://search.famsf.org:8080/view.shtml?record=210781&=list&=271&=dre >> I really like this one. If I were designing a show that needed such a costume, I'd steal this one. Yummy!

RE: [h-cost] The bead-net dress (was: movie costumes--Egyptian)

My question is that one of the sites given for this dress states that when they restrung the dress they did not use all of the bead. Something like 1/4 (sorry pulling from memory) of the beads were not restrung on the dress so what we are seeing, is it more that they have restrung to match the stat

Re: [h-cost] Questions re: Moda a Firenze

Greetings to all, I have a different question about this book. To those of you in the US who got it when it first became available: how much did you pay for it, and when was that? I'm trying to establish the "original" price of this book to see how much it's gone up and how fast. The book

Re: [h-cost] The bead-net dress (was: movie costumes--Egyptian)

Robin, thank you for sending us that link. It's only fabulous! Warning in case someone is thinking of making that dress, even for a doll: I do some net beading - my sister calls it the insane beading - and the way that net dress was reproduced promises that it would never survive a day of wear (n

RE: [h-cost] Schaube

Just my 2 cents It seems to me that the term "schaube" has the same problem as the term coat or jacket in modern terms. We call all jackets the same thing but it does not indicate what style they are (long, short, leather, wool, nylon, etc.) So perhaps a "schaube" to them was just a term

Re: [h-cost] Schaube

In a message dated 1/5/2007 8:04:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about the garment Christine of Denmark wears. Its made of fur. Holbein painted her, scroll down to find it on the right side.. http://www.italy.dk/turisme/lombardia/milano/mi-castello.

Re: [h-cost] RE: victorian wedding clothes,

In a message dated 1/5/2007 8:08:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://search.famsf.org:8080/view.shtml?record=210781&=list&=271&=dre >> I really like this one. If I were designing a show that needed such a costume, I'd steal this one. Yummy! __

Re: [h-cost] Schaube

Thanks for help! Gonna search through our art museum library... But the more I search, the more I'm confused about what the word really means. Now I've found an explanation in one of the Czech history of costume books and it says that the "alchubba" was a long dress of mohammeds, opened i

[h-cost] RE: victorian wedding clothes,

You have probably seen these but just in case, Victorian wedding dresses http://tinyurl.com/y2eg4f http://tinyurl.com/y92ao6 http://tinyurl.com/y5aaga http://search.famsf.org:8080/view.shtml?record=210781&=list&=271&=dre http://tinyurl.com/yajfmh http://tinyurl.com/y4p2mu http://www.bridallex

Re: [h-cost] Schaube

How about the garment Christine of Denmark wears. Its made of fur. Holbein painted her, scroll down to find it on the right side.. http://www.italy.dk/turisme/lombardia/milano/mi-castello.htm Bjarne - Original Message - From: "michaela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical

[h-cost] Seamstress in Houston?

I'm hoping someone on this list will know a seamstress in Houston willing to make a wedding dress for my future sister-in-law. The wedding is planned for October. She knows the style she wants and she wants silk satin. She's a lovely person who has a very nice figure. She'll look great in it.

Re: victorian wedding clothes, was [h-cost] Another film costume rant

Reading this thread, and the questions about necklines and sleeves, I wonder did it have any effect that a wedding dress is made for going to church, in the first place? Even quite recently, many people would frown upon a wedding dress that was off the shoulder or sleeveless - it might be cove

Re: [h-cost] Schaube

> I need a little help: I'm looking for pictures and patterns for this kind of dress: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Schaube.PNG > it is called "Schaube" in German, originally from arabian "aljubbeh" or something like that. Somewhere I found that it is also called "robe", which is probably n

Re: [h-cost] Schaube

Koehlers A History of Costume have a pattern cut of a Schaube for a man. Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Zuzana Kraemerova" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "h-costume" Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: [h-cost] Schaube Hi all, I need a little help: I'm looking for pict

[h-cost] Schaube

Hi all, I need a little help: I'm looking for pictures and patterns for this kind of dress: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Schaube.PNG it is called "Schaube" in German, originally from arabian "aljubbeh" or something like that. Somewhere I found that it is also called "robe", which is

[h-cost] Re: victorian wedding clothes

AlbertCat wrote: >Where might the bride be going after the wedding? To the train station to >commence the honeymoon? To a big whoop-de-do dinner after the ceremony? How >might that affect things? >It's not 'til like the 1830's that special wedding dresses come into play in >the 1st place, is