[h-cost] Re: Livrustkammaren/Sture Shirts
I wish I knew. I only know that as a whole the entire set of scans is 29 megs. I wanted to make a PDF of them, but hubby, who actually knows how to do that, is down with a virus right now. So I did the best I could with what I had. 'sides, asking the computer demi god simple questions like this is taking ones' life into ones' hands... He has little patience for my fundamental queries. Ironic it is a virus that has him crashed on the couch at the moment. ;-) Sorry, I couldn't resist the bad joke. Anyone who wants to make a pdf of them, go right ahead. Kathy == Kathy, I was able to download but not open. I am more than willing to wait for hubby's recovery for a PDF file :). Please post again to let us know if/when this is available. And thanks again for sharing!!! Catherine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 17th Century French hunting dress
Thanks. Clicking on the thumbnail still brings me to the Karen Augusta ad, but with the thumbnail at least I can now see a bit of what you're discussing! -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 17th Century French hunting dress
THANKS ! Now I see it. Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Dawn wrote: E House wrote: OK, how are you guys seeing this dress? All the link brings up for me is an ad for Karen Augusta. Try this http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/leloirX2.htm It's the 7th image down, Full hunting dress... 1692... Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
Lloyd Mitchell wrote: Does it not occur that some people do not worry about such things as pet furr unless you are out and about among people to whom such a vestige of barnyard appearance is a problem? Even in this modern age one will know or remember that when going here or there may make a difference as to what one might wear? Well, I've lived with cats all my life so, no, a little cat hair doesn't bother me on my clothes or on my friends. Unless I'm going for a job interview and then I want the navy suit to be as clean as I can get it. But the problem I have with our costumes is that the wool gown seems to attract an unusually heavy amount of lint, dust, cat hair, people hair and heaven knows what else to it. I've already gone through one lint roller and I'm working on a second just trying to keep the thing from looking like it's been drug through a barn. I can go through a yard of packing tape just cleaning the sleeve. It's ok that it looks like a gown worn by a man who owns a cat. Right now it looks like it's a gown owned by a homeless man who sleeps in the stable with the dogs. That's not the image I'm going for with this outfit. :) Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] paned sleeves for Elizabethan - question
I've done the Eleonora of Toledo sleeves in several incarnations/ versions, that have buttons or beads on each pane-- including the undersides of the sleeves-- without a problem. However if something is too sharp, anything would abrade the fabric. Catriona -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of A J Garden Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:58 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] paned sleeves for Elizabethan - question I've just cut out my paned sleeves and am planning to put a large gold bead at each join - but am wondering what is normally done with the underarm seam - do people join this seam or pane it as well? And if paned, do you sew a bed to match the rest of the sleeve or leave just plain? The dress is a ballgown - so people will see under the arm. I make Irish dance costumes - so know that beads under arms can tear fabric of the dress - so am naturally very cautious. Many thanks, Aylwen Garden ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Need details
My Renaissance dress is similar to this one: Elisabeth von Valois Alonso Sanchez Coello, 1565 http://www.mauritia.de/de/renaissance/elisabethvalois.html Does anyone have details of the front and partlet area? Also this one looks like it is divided in the front, but not exactly like the Venetian courisan type dress. I'd rather have a dress that opens in the front. Are there any other examples of front opening dresses from the period of 1565 -1580. I've used various styles to make my own combination of the parts I like. I'll post it as soon as I scan the sketch. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
I have a small sign up in my hallway that reads No outfit is complete without cat hair. I keep planning to make one that says No costume is complete without cat hair to go in the sewing room (which is off limits to the cats but their hair gets in anyway). If you have cats you have cat hair. Learn to live with it - they are worth the bother. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
At 07:21 PM 1/18/2006, you wrote: Lloyd Mitchell wrote: Does it not occur that some people do not worry about such things as pet furr unless you are out and about among people to whom such a vestige of barnyard appearance is a problem? Even in this modern age one will know or remember that when going here or there may make a difference as to what one might wear? Well, I've lived with cats all my life so, no, a little cat hair doesn't bother me on my clothes or on my friends. Unless I'm going for a job interview and then I want the navy suit to be as clean as I can get it. But the problem I have with our costumes is that the wool gown seems to attract an unusually heavy amount of lint, dust, cat hair, people hair and heaven knows what else to it. I've already gone through one lint roller and I'm working on a second just trying to keep the thing from looking like it's been drug through a barn. I can go through a yard of packing tape just cleaning the sleeve. It's ok that it looks like a gown worn by a man who owns a cat. Right now it looks like it's a gown owned by a homeless man who sleeps in the stable with the dogs. That's not the image I'm going for with this outfit. :) Dawn Have you tried putting the dress in your clothes dryer (on air only, no heat) with a damp towel? It helps pull a lot of stuff out of the fabric. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
Have you tried one of those things that looks like a window scraper? It supposedly is able to pull the hair out, not just sweep it off. It has a plastic handle with a rubber -like blade. Check your local pet supply store or a pet catalog. I also found a glove that seems to be made of a type of stiff velvet. You wipe it one way, and it picks up hair. WIpe it the opposite way to clean it off. I have a Kuvasz (long, white hair-90 pound dog), a mixed breed terrier (short wiry type, white, black and brown hair-25 pound dog) and a black cat. Pick a color-pick a texture, you'll probably find it here! Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Jan 18, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Dawn wrote: Lloyd Mitchell wrote: Does it not occur that some people do not worry about such things as pet furr unless you are out and about among people to whom such a vestige of barnyard appearance is a problem? Even in this modern age one will know or remember that when going here or there may make a difference as to what one might wear? Well, I've lived with cats all my life so, no, a little cat hair doesn't bother me on my clothes or on my friends. Unless I'm going for a job interview and then I want the navy suit to be as clean as I can get it. But the problem I have with our costumes is that the wool gown seems to attract an unusually heavy amount of lint, dust, cat hair, people hair and heaven knows what else to it. I've already gone through one lint roller and I'm working on a second just trying to keep the thing from looking like it's been drug through a barn. I can go through a yard of packing tape just cleaning the sleeve. It's ok that it looks like a gown worn by a man who owns a cat. Right now it looks like it's a gown owned by a homeless man who sleeps in the stable with the dogs. That's not the image I'm going for with this outfit. :) Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: 17th Century French hunting dress
Thanks for the responses! I have another question, though. How is the skirt constructed for this period? Does the fullness still go in the back, like in Elizabethan times? I suppose I could borrow Patterns of Fashion or something. ::Looks hopefully at Dawn:: Albertcat, thanks for the overview. I had noticed the scarf through the buttonhole in other drawings too. I think it's very dapper, but I don't think I'll be wearing a scarf, so that's probably out. I'm also not planning to do the train, but just out of curiosity, would it have been part of the skirt with the bands across the front, or a separate overskirt? Yes, that is her mask in her right hand. I have to confess that I'm going to wear this outfit as a pirate costume, so I'm not worried if it's a masque costume or not. Does anyone know where to get a cheap but good-looking flint lock pistol prop? Or a falchion? I just saw a show on the History Channel about early firearms. Would this be a matchlock rifle she's got? Thanks! Tea Rose P.S. I love where my underwear question has gone! I learn so much from you guys! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
What Dawn said! Also, I'm sewing for other people--Live with it really isn't the best solution there. =} I can live with it (although I _would_ have to pick black fulled wool for my dressiest coat, sigh) but maybe they can't, you know? The packing tape thing is handy for small areas, but not for a gown with an 8 yard hem. The best I've been able to do is to brush it, then spend about a half hour picking off every single cat hair that I can find by hand. It's actually faster than doing it by packing tape, sadly enough. -E House They is a pestilence of cats what has swefted into the land. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: pet hair/feathers
Hi It's not schmutz, it's an added embellishment! VBEG And muddy paw prints just add ambiance... Seriously have you tried shaking stuff out? Sticky tape rolled around your hand sticky out? A nice clothes brush?? Which is what me Mum always used... Ta Carol -- Creative Clutter is Better Than Idle Neatness! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
Hi, I had collies when i was young. They surely also gives a lot of hair everywhere. I learned that if you damp your hand and stroke gently to the wool, it goes off very easy. Used to do this on all our furnitures. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:21 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] pet hair Lloyd Mitchell wrote: Does it not occur that some people do not worry about such things as pet furr unless you are out and about among people to whom such a vestige of barnyard appearance is a problem? Even in this modern age one will know or remember that when going here or there may make a difference as to what one might wear? Well, I've lived with cats all my life so, no, a little cat hair doesn't bother me on my clothes or on my friends. Unless I'm going for a job interview and then I want the navy suit to be as clean as I can get it. But the problem I have with our costumes is that the wool gown seems to attract an unusually heavy amount of lint, dust, cat hair, people hair and heaven knows what else to it. I've already gone through one lint roller and I'm working on a second just trying to keep the thing from looking like it's been drug through a barn. I can go through a yard of packing tape just cleaning the sleeve. It's ok that it looks like a gown worn by a man who owns a cat. Right now it looks like it's a gown owned by a homeless man who sleeps in the stable with the dogs. That's not the image I'm going for with this outfit. :) Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: 17th Century French hunting dress
Hi Tea Rose. The skirt is full all the way round. There is not any over and underskirt. A very small bumroll round the waist, would improve the look. Skirt would probably be cartridge pleated to a waistband where the fullness is most from hips to center back. Bjarne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: [h-cost] Re: 17th Century French hunting dress Thanks for the responses! I have another question, though. How is the skirt constructed for this period? Does the fullness still go in the back, like in Elizabethan times? I suppose I could borrow Patterns of Fashion or something. ::Looks hopefully at Dawn:: Albertcat, thanks for the overview. I had noticed the scarf through the buttonhole in other drawings too. I think it's very dapper, but I don't think I'll be wearing a scarf, so that's probably out. I'm also not planning to do the train, but just out of curiosity, would it have been part of the skirt with the bands across the front, or a separate overskirt? Yes, that is her mask in her right hand. I have to confess that I'm going to wear this outfit as a pirate costume, so I'm not worried if it's a masque costume or not. Does anyone know where to get a cheap but good-looking flint lock pistol prop? Or a falchion? I just saw a show on the History Channel about early firearms. Would this be a matchlock rifle she's got? Thanks! Tea Rose P.S. I love where my underwear question has gone! I learn so much from you guys! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
But the problem I have with our costumes is that the wool gown seems to attract an unusually heavy amount of lint, dust, cat hair, people hair and heaven knows what else to it. I've already gone through one lint roller and I'm working on a second just trying to keep the thing from looking like it's been drug through a barn. I can go through a yard of packing tape just cleaning the sleeve. It's ok that it looks like a gown worn by a man who owns a cat. Right now it looks like it's a gown owned by a homeless man who sleeps in the stable with the dogs. That's not the image I'm going for with this outfit. :) Some wools do seem to pick up more stuff than others. I discovered that one floor-length gown in particular picked up a lot fewer seeds and bits of grass from the ground if I put about a 2-inch strip of matching cotton velveteen around the bottom. I'm half convinced that seeds hitch a ride on the hemline and gradually work their way up the skirt :) It helps somewhat to keep anything vulnerable to cat hair hung up whenever it's not being worn. Vacuuming frequently and cleaning chair seats and other furniture with a damp rag cuts down on the amount of fur that transfers when you sit or brush up against something. Brushing the cat(s) daily also helps. My younger cat can shed an amazing amount of fur in one day, and my other cat is a calico, so she can shed hair of a color that will contrast with anything, all by herself :) As for removal, take a look next time you're at the pet store to see what new techno-fixes are currently popular. I have a brush with fat, soft, slightly sticky rubber bristles that does a pretty good job of picking up fur from most clothing. I also have a wire clothes brush, which is especially helpful on soft or fuzzy fabrics to loosen any attached hair, which the other brush can then pick up. The best lint roller I've found is made of a similar kind of slightly sticky rubber, and all you have to do to clean it is to rinse it in cold water, when all the hair comes off -- let it dry and it's ready to use again. Or, of course, you can think of the added layer of hairs as additional insulation! vbg 0 Chris Laning | [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Davis, California ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
Friends gave me a sign similar to yours except it is for DOG hair. (They have 2 cats, so they understand.) Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Lalah wrote: I have a small sign up in my hallway that reads No outfit is complete without cat hair. I keep planning to make one that says No costume is complete without cat hair to go in the sewing room (which is off limits to the cats but their hair gets in anyway). If you have cats you have cat hair. Learn to live with it - they are worth the bother. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
I just saw this bit of info on TV today... The person used a rubber cleaning glove. Once it has picked up a batch of hair she then would use a damp cloth to wipe of the glove and begin again. Roscelin -- Original message -- From: E House [EMAIL PROTECTED] What Dawn said! Also, I'm sewing for other people--Live with it really isn't the best solution there. =} I can live with it (although I _would_ have to pick black fulled wool for my dressiest coat, sigh) but maybe they can't, you know? The packing tape thing is handy for small areas, but not for a gown with an 8 yard hem. The best I've been able to do is to brush it, then spend about a half hour picking off every single cat hair that I can find by hand. It's actually faster than doing it by packing tape, sadly enough. -E House They is a pestilence of cats what has swefted into the land. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] pet hair
The best lint roller I've found is made of a similar kind of slightly sticky rubber, and all you have to do to clean it is to rinse it in cold water, when all the hair comes off -- let it dry and it's ready to use again. I read that as it referring to the 'hair', not the roller. Conjuring weird images of used cat hair. How much would it go for on eBay? Kate ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: 17th Century French hunting dress
In a message dated 1/19/2006 2:26:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know where to get a cheap but good-looking flint lock pistol prop? There's here. The Pirate flintlock is only like $49. _http://www.silvermane.com/weapons_firearms.html_ (http://www.silvermane.com/weapons_firearms.html) Or try your local costume shop [we have Morris Costumes down here... morriscostume.com] or even Toy-R-Us, and see if they have a non-working plastic one for real cheap. They can sometimes look pretty good. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: 17th Century French hunting dress
In a message dated 1/19/2006 5:12:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's here. The Pirate flintlock is only like $49. Forget this onethe 2 17th century German and 17th century English look better and are $35 and $39. _http://www.silvermane.com/weapons_firearms.html_ (http://www.silvermane.com/weapons_firearms.html) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] pet hair
Ooops... Well, it all depends on the breed of cat's hair. I used to spin collie hair and wool together. Why not Angora cat hair? Roscelin -- Original message -- From: Kate Pinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best lint roller I've found is made of a similar kind of slightly sticky rubber, and all you have to do to clean it is to rinse it in cold water, when all the hair comes off -- let it dry and it's ready to use again. I read that as it referring to the 'hair', not the roller. Conjuring weird images of used cat hair. How much would it go for on eBay? Kate ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: 17th Century French hunting dress
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to confess that I'm going to wear this outfit as a pirate costume I wouldn't say that in public. Piracy is a hanging offense. :) Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] New BBC Elizabethan drama - Virgin Queen
Just in case anyone over here /hasn't/ seen the trailer:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/virginqueen/costume.shtml Rather scant content on the costume but a description of the 'creative process' used by the designer. Quite why they think that an actor can't be sexy in accurate Elizabethan clothing I've no idea... Oh well. The promo pictures show disappointly limp skirts and decidedly modern looking fabric but I'll be happy to be proved wrong! The series begins on Sunday 22nd January on BBC at 9pm UK time. Katherine A positive attitude may not solve all of your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright ___ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New BBC Elizabethan drama - Virgin Queen
In a message dated 1/19/2006 5:57:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rather scant content on the costume but a description of the 'creative process' * Really! Who wants to see the continuity book? Sheesh! An appalling lack of hats and coifs too many unbuttoned doubletsa purple and gold shirt The new queen rides into town to be crowned in a plain gown with her boobs practically falling out and here hair down and head uncovered? Idon'tthinkso. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
I saved dog hair and spun it to knit. Why not cat hair Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Kate Pinner wrote: The best lint roller I've found is made of a similar kind of slightly sticky rubber, and all you have to do to clean it is to rinse it in cold water, when all the hair comes off -- let it dry and it's ready to use again. I read that as it referring to the 'hair', not the roller. Conjuring weird images of used cat hair. How much would it go for on eBay? Kate ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: 17th Century French hunting dress-piracy
Sounds like when we do Train Robberies (for Charity) on horseback. They even have WANTED Posters printed for the occasion! Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Jan 19, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Dawn wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to confess that I'm going to wear this outfit as a pirate costume I wouldn't say that in public. Piracy is a hanging offense. :) Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New BBC Elizabethan drama - Virgin Queen
Is it normal policy to start designing costumes with a 12 week lead time? I know nothing about theatre or TV, but I need 12 weeks to make an outfit for myself! Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Jan 19, 2006, at 5:54 PM, katherine sanders wrote: Just in case anyone over here /hasn't/ seen the trailer:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/virginqueen/costume.shtml Rather scant content on the costume but a description of the 'creative process' used by the designer. Quite why they think that an actor can't be sexy in accurate Elizabethan clothing I've no idea... Oh well. The promo pictures show disappointly limp skirts and decidedly modern looking fabric but I'll be happy to be proved wrong! The series begins on Sunday 22nd January on BBC at 9pm UK time. Katherine A positive attitude may not solve all of your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright ___ Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: paned sleeves for Elizabethan - question
A J Garden wrote: I've just cut out my paned sleeves and am planning to put a large gold bead at each join - but am wondering what is normally done with the underarm seam - do people join this seam or pane it as well? I'd pane it, but leave a couple of beads off between the armpit and the elbow. I chose not to pane the under sleeve section. The upper sleeve section is paned will be joined with a large gold whatnot, just like yours. The edges of each pane and of the undersleeve section have delicate lacy gold trim. Since there's no trim or beads under there, there's no risk of marking my ivory silk satin brocade. The sleeve design I chose is based on the extant remains of Eleanor of Toledo's gown in the Pitti Palace. See JArnold Patts of Fashion. --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Livrustkammaren/Sture Shirts
Thank you for posting this. I've downloaded and expanded the zip and have begun page separation and image restoration. I look forward to your translation. The images are in jpeg format, which is already compressed. There was little size benefit putting it in a zip file, though it does make it easier to deal with than many small files. Adobe pdf files will not be any more efficient, unless you give up some of the resolution (300dpi). That would be a shame. You could save additional space if the text was transcribed... a major job in itself. Beth Matney At 01:00 PM 1/18/2006, you wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:59:18 -0500 (EST) From: Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Livrustkammaren/Sture Shirts For those whom were asking for it, here it is. The Livrustkammaren Journal of the Royal Armoury Stockholm, Vol. IV:8-9 Stureskjortorna by Anna-Maja Nylen. It's a BIG file, I have zipped it, but be prepared. I have scanned everything LARGE so that details are preserved. http://outoftheattic.homeip.net/venetian_costuming.html I'll leave it up for a week or so then take it down. If anyone misses it while catching up to email, email me off list and I'll upload it again. Now that the file has been scanned, I can get on translating. That will take me some time, I'll get back to you on it. :-) Kathy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New BBC Elizabethan drama - Virgin Queen
The new queen rides into town to be crowned in a plain gown with her boobs practically falling out and here hair down and head uncovered? Idon'tthinkso. Well, actually they did wear their gowns like that though I don't believe it was appropriate for riding. Elizabeth did go to her coronation with her hair down. She said that she was a virgin queen and wanted the world to know it. Her coronation portraits show her crown on her long (frizzy) red hair which sticks out and is hanging over the coronation cloak. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:21:57 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] New BBC Elizabethan drama - Virgin Queen In a message dated 1/19/2006 5:57:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rather scant content on the costume but a description of the 'creative process' * Really! Who wants to see the continuity book? Sheesh! An appalling lack of hats and coifs too many unbuttoned doubletsa purple and gold shirt The new queen rides into town to be crowned in a plain gown with her boobs practically falling out and here hair down and head uncovered? Idon'tthinkso. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Need details
The second link went to a French site. I do not have access or do not understand what to do. My French is very rusty. Please explain what to do or translate it for me so I can. It doesn't matter to me if it's in French. I can always find a translator for a passage or try to do it myself. I'd have to look up y school text book. But I can if I have to. Thanks for the picture. I do rmemeber someone having details of this dress sometime ago. They discussed the covers for the ties on the sleeves and how to make the spiral cut sleeves. I think I can make it iwth what I have but details will make it easier. If someone knows of the diary for this dress, please post it to me. - Original Message - From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Need details Here is a bigger picture that might help. http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fmlac10526_08a.jpg If it is small, click on the picture and it will enlarge. Someone had a dress diary online for this. The partlet seems to be a lattice of pearls and gems connected to a sheer material. This Portrait is Isabel Valois, French. It appears to have an opening in the front. Most portraits I have seen of French gowns are usually in the front but I haven't been about to figure out the solid section between the embroidered bands. These are done by Clouet. Click on Notice complete, which will take you to that particular pictures info. Then click the picture to enlarge. http://www.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/joconde_fr?ACTION=CHERCHERFIELD_1 =AUTRVALUE_1=CLOUET%20FrançoisDOM=AllREL_SPECIFIC=1IMAGE_ONLY=CHECKED (Sorry haven't figured out snipurl) There are some with front opening. De PS. been looking into making this gown as well.:) -Original Message- My Renaissance dress is similar to this one: Elisabeth von Valois Alonso Sanchez Coello, 1565 http://www.mauritia.de/de/renaissance/elisabethvalois.html Does anyone have details of the front and partlet area? Also this one looks like it is divided in the front, but not exactly like the Venetian courisan type dress. I'd rather have a dress that opens in the front. Are there any other examples of front opening dresses from the period of 1565 -1580. I've used various styles to make my own combination of the parts I like. I'll post it as soon as I scan the sketch. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] pet hair
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ooops... Well, it all depends on the breed of cat's hair. I used to spin collie hair and wool together. Why not Angora cat hair? It's my understanding that the structure of cat hair makes it difficult if not impossible to spin. Seems like the cuticle of the feline fiber (sorry, couldn't resist the alliteration) is barbed. What I was told was that you could spin it -- and then just watch it unspin itself. I know lots of folks who spin Dog Hair, though. Jerusha, not a spinner or weaver - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
Seems like the cuticle of the feline fiber (sorry, couldn't resist the alliteration) is barbed But aren't the barbs the reason that wool can be spun? It gives texture so the spinning stays in. Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Jan 19, 2006, at 11:20 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ooops... Well, it all depends on the breed of cat's hair. I used to spin collie hair and wool together. Why not Angora cat hair? It's my understanding that the structure of cat hair makes it difficult if not impossible to spin. Seems like the cuticle of the feline fiber (sorry, couldn't resist the alliteration) is barbed. What I was told was that you could spin it -- and then just watch it unspin itself. I know lots of folks who spin Dog Hair, though. Jerusha, not a spinner or weaver - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
Quoting Susan Data-Samtak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Seems like the cuticle of the feline fiber (sorry, couldn't resist the alliteration) is barbed But aren't the barbs the reason that wool can be spun? It gives texture so the spinning stays in. or it could be that the cuticle *isn't* barbed. :-S Can you tell I don't do those kinds of things with fiber? Jerusha - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Need details
My Renaissance dress is similar to this one: Elisabeth von Valois Alonso Sanchez Coello, 1565 http://www.mauritia.de/de/renaissance/elisabethvalois.html Does anyone have details of the front and partlet area? Also this one looks like it is divided in the front, but not exactly like the Venetian courisan type dress. I'd rather have a dress that opens in the front. Are there any other examples of front opening dresses from the period of 1565 -1580. I've used various styles to make my own combination of the parts I like. I'll post it as soon as I scan the sketch. I have a photo of a great picture of this, the bodice is *not* divided up the front. It is much like other bodices that probably have a stomacher front with a divided skirt. I'll edit the pics and upload them later tonight. michaela de bruce http://glittersweet.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/235 - Release Date: 19/01/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Need details
At 08:49 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote: Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is a bigger picture that might help. http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fmlac10526_08a.jpg If it is small, click on the picture and it will enlarge. That's probably the *best* copy of this paintings that I think I've seen! Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ When you look closely at the sleeves, you can see that they have long diagonal slashes edged with gold braid (or laced as the contemporary term is). The sleeves have sometimes been misinterpreted as spiral-cut. This is one of my favorite portraits (I have a nice large color picture in one of my books). Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
