Re: [h-cost] Costumes in "War and Peace"
It's a great book. Every historical costumer who loves movies should own a copy. On 01/06/2016 12:00 PM, Viv Watkins wrote: There is a fascinating book - "Hollywood and History - Costume Design in Film" which looks how costume designers present historical dress. It was published in 1988 to accompany an exhibition mounted at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. Part of the foreword says "Contemporary viewers are not aware that the costumes reflect their own standards of style and beauty - that the cave-dwellers' costumes are cut to emphasise the 1940's silhouette, that the antebellum dresses are made with 1930's bias-cut fabrics. It is only with the passage of time that one can see clearly how all-pervasive the designer's contemporary aesthetics have been." It is one of my favourite costume books, it has given me an extra layer of fun when I watch the wonderful old movies. -- Catherine Olanich Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going?
On 12/17/2015 09:38 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: I have been getting the monthly reminders from indra.com, but I have to admit I don't read them. I also have something to share--this is based on the paper I gave at the Jane Austen Society of North America's annual general meeting in Louisville in October. http://www.jasna.org/persuasions/on-line/vol36no1/wass.html Thanks for the URL, Ann! My attempt to respond to the "is the list still going" post also drew a rejection message. Hopefully this will get through. -- Catherine Olanich Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going?
On 12/17/2015 12:36 PM, aqua...@patriot.net wrote: You're welcome! I suppose people could say what they are working on. I am in theory working on learning sprang so I can make myself a hair net suitable for early period costume, but I haven't done anything since making myself a sprang frame months ago. -- Catherine Olanich Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mouse-proof underwear
Ah, I understand now. I thought that "mouse-proof" underwear was underwear that wouldn't be eaten by mice. But apparently Miss Browning's underwear were meant to mouse-proof the wearer. On 12/17/2015 02:22 PM, Catherine Walton wrote: I found the idea of mouse-proof underwear mentioned in - of all things - a cookery book: Elisabeth Luard's "European Peasant Cookery, The Rich Tradition", (Transworld Publishers Ltd., London, 1986), page 478, 'Buffalo Milk (Hungary)'. It is the introduction to a long quotation from Ellen Browning's "A Girl's Wanderings in Hungary", (London, 1896). The quotation itself is about the uses of buffalo milk, especially making cheese, and it contains nothing whatever about items of dress, but it may be that the source book itself offers more. "Ellen Browning, a clever young university graduate and kinswoman of Robert Browning, travelled alone through late nineteenth-century Hungary, trying to restore her health while recovering from her father's death. She admitted fear of nothing except mice and wore long cloth knickers under her gown as an anti-mouse device. She had constant trouble with fleas, but was a very observant traveller." As I'm an ardent medievalist, I've never paid much attention to the sorts of things normally worn in Ellen's time, but this intrigued me; I'd love to know more, and whether others also felt the need for such garments, and whether they worked. As I've been very ill lately, I haven't been able to pursue Ellen's book, nor to look into the subject in general, but the subject has haunted me. Help ! Catherine Walton - delighted to see so many people posting again. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Catherine Olanich Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." Benjamin Franklin Confidentiality Notice This e-mail message and any documents accompanying this e-mail transmission contain confidential and/or legally privileged information The information contained herein is intended only for the use of the individual(s) named on the e-mail message. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying or distribution of this information or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this e-mail transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please reply to the sender advising of the error and delete the message and any accompanying documents from your system immediately. Thank you. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mouse-proof underwear
On 12/17/2015 05:42 PM, Catherine Walton wrote: On 17/12/2015 22:28, Catherine Olanich Raymond wrote: Ah, I understand now. I thought that "mouse-proof" underwear was underwear that wouldn't be eaten by mice. But apparently Miss Browning's underwear were meant to mouse-proof the wearer. Oh - sorry: I missed the ambiguity. I hope I haven't disappointed too many people? No, that's fine! It's still very interesting, at least to me. -- Catherine Olanich Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mouse-proof underwear
On 12/17/2015 05:56 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: Maybe bloomers tied closed at the bottom so mice couldn't run up her legs? I'd have also gotten a cat. ;-) I agree, but it's possible Miss Browning needed her long bloomers because she was traveling to places where the accommodations were...dodgy. -- Catherine Olanich Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] medieval jewelry
On 06/08/2015 06:31 PM, Katy Bishop wrote: Nice, thanks for posting Amen! Great photos, too, for those of us who can't make it to New York. Thank you, Janet! On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Janet Davis bear_ja...@msn.com wrote: The Met is having an exhibit of medieval and renaissance jewelry : -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn. Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Medieval Garments Reconstructed free PDF
On 09/03/2014 07:44 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: Ummm, it looks like you actually have to buy the hardbound book to get a free copy of the e-book in .pdf format. Unless there's a different webpage than the one I ended up on when I clicked the link. No, there are two links on the relevant page. One of them is indeed a free PDF of the book; I'm downloading it now. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. - Oscar Wilde ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is publication of NESAT XI research?
On 10/06/2013 06:40 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: This is one of the many popular-audience articles that appeared on the discovery of some 15th-century brassieres: http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_news/social_affairs/AJ201211140001 I heard that a paper would be presented on these brassieres at NESAT XI, which happened in 2011. I have been eagerly waiting its publication, presumably in the anthology of NESAT papers. But I cannot find such an anthology for NESAT XI, including on the NESAT website, though I may be missing something since I can't read German. Does anyone know if this research has been published and if so where I can find it? Fran: The NESAT XI volume hasn't been published yet--it was supposed to be published late last year but the date keeps getting pushed back. I think the current estimate is sometime in December 2013 but I'm not sure of that. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. - Oscar Wilde Confidentiality Notice This e-mail message and any documents accompanying this e-mail transmission contain confidential and/or legally privileged information and/or legally privileged information. The information contained herein is intended only for the use of the individual(s) named on the e-mail message. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying or distribution of this information or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this e-mail transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please reply to the sender advising of the error and delete the message and any accompanying documents from your system immediately. Thank you. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Nazi propaganda photos of occupied Paris in World War 2
On 09/12/2013 07:25 PM, Lynn Downward wrote: The photographs are really wonderfully done. It's hard to say that he should be punished for putting the best face on France during the German occupation. He seems to have shown both sides of the coin in his photography, although the German side paid better. And the Germans are the ones who gave him the rare color film, making these photos so important historically. I started to notice how even the women called well-dressed in the captions didn't have nylons on. Only one woman other than those in uniform seemed to be wearing stockings. You'd think the Germans would have given them stockings to wear in at least some of the more posed photographs. In the more posed photographs, you can't see the women's legs, and thus you can't tell. A lot of the women and girls are wearing ankle socks (high socks in one instance) and some women are clearly bare legged, but in the crowd shots not enough detail is visible to be sure--especially of women photographed from the front. Certainly only the Nazi women in military uniforms clearly are wearing proper stockings with clocks. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. - Oscar Wilde ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Wall calendars
On 09/12/2013 11:56 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: Has anyone found any good (preferably pre-1930) costume related wall calendars for 2014? The Lithuanian Folk Culture Center is selling a gorgeously-illustrated 2013-2014 calendar illustrating costume reproductions of Curonian costumes of the 1st to 14th centuries. You can buy it from the Center's website: http://www.llkc.lt/index.php?216300311 Balticshop.com carries it for $25.00 plus $3.95 shipping anywhere in the US, but for some reason I can't raise their website just now. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. - Oscar Wilde ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
On 09/10/2013 12:59 PM, Cin wrote: It's been forever since I asked my seasonal question, so here it is: It's that time of year when the calendar is full of holiday parties, winter balls, gift-making excuses, company dinners, Dickens Fair, theater season, New Years Eve, cocktail parties, and 12th Night. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical locale. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? A Middle Byzantine tunic to wear over the Manazan shift (it's a bit long to be a shirt) that I made a few years ago. Admittedly I haven't gotten very far http://cathyscostumeblog.blogspot.com/2013/07/sewing-for-byzantium-starting-himation.html http://cathyscostumeblog.blogspot.com/2012/11/return-to-byzantium-tunic.html Pictures of the Manazan shift: http://cathyscostumeblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/sewing-for-byzantium-manazan-shirt.html And here's a hint of what the outfit will be like when completed (I'm wearing all the components but using an old ordinary gold overtunic instead of one cut like the Byzantine tunic will be: http://cathyscostumeblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/behold-mantion.html -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. - Oscar Wilde ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] where to buy lucet?
On 06/17/2013 08:19 PM, Rebecca wrote: Where do people purchase their lucets (preferably online)? I'd like to buy a few, but am coming up stumped on where I've seen them for sale! Thanks :) Google is your friend on this one. Really. Here's a few of the places I've seen them. Which ones you pick will depend upon how big a lucet you want, whether and how much you care about size, shape, and materials, and price. Good luck! (P.S. You'll get most hits if you type lucet into Google, but lucette may work also.) On EBay: Pine Box Traders: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lucet-Basic-1-piece-Lucette-Snoddgaffel-String-Fork-Assorted-Hardwood-PBT-/390606966659?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5af1fd4f83 Olde Tyme Antiques: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lovely-Handmade-Purple-Heart-Wooden-LUCET-for-Braiding-Cord-/251209389892?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a7d3f1744 Daegrad: http://compare.ebay.com/like/161034866762?var=lvltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypesvar=sbar craftyls: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANCIENT-LUCET-HAND-CRAFTED-WOODEN-CRAFT-TOOL-with-instructions-/321133112014?pt=UK_Crafts_Other_Crafts_EHhash=item4ac5066ace On Etsy.com: Brush Creek Wool Works (on vacation at the moment) http://www.etsy.com/listing/58758948/lucet-handmade?utm_source=googleutm_medium=product_listing_promotedutm_campaign=supplies_lowgclid=CLLzw5G67LcCFVKf4AodgwIAfA On the Internet generally: Halcyon Yarn (halcyonyarn.com) http://halcyonyarn.com/multi-craft/6842/wooden-lucet-with-handle?gclid=CMOA-qW67LcCFQmf4Aod3QoAfA Paradise Fibers: http://www.paradisefibers.com/wool-tree-mill-lucet.html?gclid=CKTPtMO67LcCFciY4Aodz1QAYw -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. - Oscar Wilde ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabrics Medieval vs Modern
On 03/10/2013 06:35 PM, Purple Kat wrote: I can go into NYC and get medium weight 60 wide pure linen in any color I want for approx $8/yd. I can also go to the local fabric store and find appropriate weave cottons for chemises.. $8.50/yd. One thing I am really looking for is light weight wool for under $10/yd. Even better if it is white or very very light colored. This is a wool gabardine which may not be what you want. But it's $10.75 per yard and pale yellow: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/p/12515/Pale-Yellow-Wool-Gabardine -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin \ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Hairdresser recreates ancient hairstyles
On 02/07/2013 10:05 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: Someone on Facebook posted a link to the complete video of her doing the Vestal Virgin hairstyle. For those who don't like Facebook, you can view it on my blog: http://cathyscostumeblog.blogspot.com/2013/01/janet-stephens-and-seni-crines.html -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Old fashion paper
On 01/16/2013 04:13 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: I bought an antique puzzle, and in the box, used to pad the pieces, was a sheet of an old newspaper, The Cleveland Observer, dated April 21. 1928. AND it was the front page of the fashion section! Showing dresses and hats, etc. My question is, what should I do with it? It's rather torn, and yellowed. And I don't want to put it back in with the puzzle-non-acid paper is best for that. Do you think It's all on microfiche already? It may very well be, but you might be able to find that out. Try calling the Cleveland Observer and/or the Cleveland Public Library, explain the reason for your interest, and ask. Should I attempt to tape the pieces back together? Probably only if you want to preserve the fashion information on the page for yourself. If you do, photocopy the patched page (since the taped page is not likely to last much longer anyway). -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Old fashion paper
On 01/16/2013 04:33 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: Whoops. It was the Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper, not the Observer. Brain hiccup. Whichever. My advice remains the same, except you contact a different paper to see whether they have fiche of back issues that are that old. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is anyone there?
I got a booklet called Medieval Embroidery that discusses stitches and designs of early medieval embroidery finds, such as Queen Bathilde's shirt. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is anyone there?
On 01/06/2013 08:20 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 05:01 PM 1/6/2013, you wrote: I got a booklet called Medieval Embroidery that discusses stitches and designs of early medieval embroidery finds, such as Queen Bathilde's shirt. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Yes, I'm receiving h-costume. It's just really quiet right now. Where did you get your booklet? It sounds very interesting. A friend purchased it for me--it's written by Mary Jenkins, who is Baroness Ealasaid nic Suibhne in the SCA. Griffin Dyeworks sells it; you can order it on this page: http://www.griffindyeworks.com/store/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=18zenid=vubsksgm0iesfsj568asecqr36 -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Butterick 5832
On 12/17/2012 07:58 PM, humbugfo...@att.net wrote: Thanks for the help. I'm also wondering about two small details on this pattern. It's designed to close with hooks and eyes (wonder of wonders, NOT a zipper) but I wonder if lacing might be more appropriate to the time period (1840). Also, the sleeves end with a slit (at least 3-4 inches) closed at the wrist with a button. I feel that even if the slit is appropriate (and I'm not sure it is), it's designed too long. (I won't even bother to discuss the fact that the skirt is too narrow - they simply didn't use enough petticoats on the model). I don't think they used petticoats at all (at least not for the shape, that is). I think they used a modern hoop skirt that was on the narrow side. That's part of the reason the dress looks wrong--the skirt SHAPE is wrong--not just (or even primarily) the width of it. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Chinese peasant costumes... help?
On 12/03/2012 03:53 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: Um, the June 2012 issue of National Geographic Magazine has an articlewith color photographs on the colors of the Terra Cotta Army. Check your local library (or your neighbors) for a copy. The colors were stunning. Definitely eye bleeding time. As for peasants, see if you can google Chinese painting for that period and look for workers in the rice paddies or something like that. There are often travelogue paintings that sometimes have servants hauling everything up a mountain. Judging from the URL on that image, it is probably taken from the National Geographic article. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Chinese peasant costumes... help?
On 12/03/2012 05:14 PM, Marion McNealy wrote: You might also look for the book 5000 Years of Chinese Costumes by Xun Zhou; Chunming Gao; in your local university library. I saw a copy today at a used bookstore and it looked like it could be useful for pattern shapes, etc. I have it; it's a great reference, but it doesn't say much of anything about peasant costume for early time periods. It might be possible to infer basic clothing shapes from it, but it doesn't really answer questions about colors. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?
On 06/24/2012 07:06 PM, Julie Tamura wrote: I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter. It has a fitted boned bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt. I spent a lot of time fitting the bodice snugly to her. After one wearing she can stick her hand down the bodice and the straps are falling down her arms. It's 100% quilting cotton. It was pretortured and we've washed dried it again; it's still too large. I'll rewash dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm frustrated. Any idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined. Here's what occurred to me first. 1) Could your daughter have lost enough weight to affect the fit? Alternatively, does she tend to have water retention issues before her menstrual periods? If so, the difference between her pre-period and post-period torso measurements might be causing the problem. 2) Cotton garments are their tightest right after a wash and loosen up in wear (as anyone who wears cotton denim jeans can attest). Sometimes they can loosen up quite a bit. If that's the problem with your fabric, you may just need to make the bodice not just snug, but actually tight, to get the desired post-wash post-wearing fit. Just some random thoughts. I hope they help. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] white glue
On 05/30/2012 02:38 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: It's really good to find out that the white glue I remember from childhood in Iowa and California is no longer what is marketed in the US. The description of the NZ product is exactly what I remember using. It dried clear. And you used it for everything. It came in a white squeeze bottle and we usually bought Elmer's. They must have changed the formulation when I wasn't looking. I've only seen the yellow wood glue in the last few years. Now, I'll have to remember not to buy white glue for my permanent projects. I'm confused by your statement. I used Elmer's white glue as a child as well. It did dry clear. But it was NOT waterproof then, and I doubt it is waterproof now, though I haven't had occasion to use it for many years. It was specifically marketed for use in gluing paper, and it did that job well, but I would not use it for fabric (except maybe for gluing pieces of fabric to PAPER for an art project) or anything else. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state. --Thomas de Quincey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions
On 05/17/2012 05:51 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: I used to buy Coats Clark cotton poly by preference, but it became so fragile awhile back that I switched to Gutermann poly. I recently bought some Gutermann all cotton and was surprised to find I like it less than their poly--the poly is smoother. I agree with Fran's opinion of Gutermann all-cotton; I found it so rough as to be unusuable (and that was for hand-sewing). Nowadays, I use Gutermann's silk for most of my hand-sewing. If CC cotton/poly is gone, I'm not sure what I'll get the next time I break out my machine. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state. --Thomas de Quincey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Ghent Alterpiece
On 03/12/2012 07:02 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: closertovaneyck.kikirpa.be I found it by pasting the above (partial?) URL into Google, and clicking on the first link it found. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state. --Thomas de Quincey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] starch recipe
This blog talks a bit about materials used to obtain starch for ruffs: http://bjws.blogspot.com/2012/02/little-more-on-starch-for-ruffs-et-al.html -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state. --Thomas de Quincey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions
On 02/09/2012 11:00 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Okay, folks, I may be getting a Steampunk urge, since a big event is right up the road in May. I long ago wanted to do an 1870s bustle style and this seems like a good opportunity. My question is, what pattern(s) do you all recommend for an 1870s era bustle day outfit? I'm thinking bodice with high neck and 3/4 sleeves and underskirt with draped overskirt. I do have the skill to make some minor changes to a pattern-could certainly modify the sleeve, for instance--but want something that I wouldn't need to do a lot to, as time is of the essence. Also not stuck on 100% authentic to the period--that is one of the appeals of Steampunk! I was hoping the Big Two had something that I could just pick up at the fabric store and run with, but I didn't see anything suitable there. Truly Victorian has some nice patterns for the bustle era: http://www.trulyvictorian.com/ -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state. --Thomas de Quincey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions
On 02/09/2012 11:31 AM, seamst...@juno.com wrote: I have made the basic 1870's underskirt several times and it is quick and simple to make. http://www.trulyvictorian.net/tvxcart/product.php?productid=81cat=2page=1 I have also made the 1871 Day Bodice several times and really like the result. http://www.trulyvictorian.net/tvxcart/product.php?productid=32cat=2page=1 I have made several of the overskirts but in terms of bang for buck (and effort), the Bustle Apron Overskirt is probably the best option. http://www.trulyvictorian.net/tvxcart/product.php?productid=40cat=2page=1 I have only tried the 1871 day bodice, the 1870s tie-apron overskirt, the 1870s Blouse Waist, and the 1870s Underskirt. The day bodice went together very quickly for me and gave a good result. The skirts did as well. As for the blouse waist, don't try to make it up in a heavy fabric--it's not meant for that (and the result looked kind of weird). -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state. --Thomas de Quincey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] marking tools
On 01/12/2012 03:02 PM, lili...@earthlink.net wrote: I have not yet found the perfect tool for marking on white and other very light fabric. I sometimes use soft school kid's chalk in a somewhat darker color (i tend to use a medium blue), but i worry about it staining the fabric. I also sometimes use a very soft graphite pencil when i am certain the lines will be hidden by the stitching. You do know that they make tailor's chalk in light blue, as well as white? The Joann's near me sells them in a two pack (one white, one blue) for less than $3.00. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state. --Thomas de Quincey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costuming presents and a question
On 12/26/2011 02:35 PM, Kate Adams wrote: My sewing machine is now in the shop for having its first major problem in 10 years of ownership. Noo!! That wasn't a present. The present was getting my backup machine out of its box for the first time in 3-4 years, oiling it, and having it work perfectly!! Never again will I wonder is this sewing machine worth the money? Instead the question becomes, what can I afford? And now for the question: Is the Realm of Venus still open for submissions? If not, is there another place on the net for displaying costumes? Bella ran two contests this year--one for complete costumes and one for accessories. So she's still happy to display costumes on her website, she just hasn't gotten a lot of costumes for the Showcase, for some reason. If you're interested, e-mail her directly: bella_lucia_da_ver...@yahoo.com.au -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state. --Thomas de Quincey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What costume-related gifts did you get?
This year, I got no costume-related presents whatsoever. But I bought myself Margareta Gleba's Textile Production in Pre-Roman Italy (DBBC had, and may still have, it on sale cheap! Check it out!) so I'm content. I *did* get three books on food history! Spirit of the Harvest, which is a book of reconstructed North American Indian recipes, The Pharoah's Kitchen, about food in ancient Egypt and Nubia, and Meals and Recipes from Ancient Greece. Quality and accuracy to be assessed as I read them. I did not know about The Queen's Servants though I enjoyed The King's Servants and will probably add it to my list of books to get--thanks Kimiko! -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What costume-related gifts did you get?
On 12/26/2011 12:10 AM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: OOOHH - I'm going to have to check out that one - The Pharoah's Kitchen. Sounds really neat - and I have a nephew who's in grad school studying to be an Egyptologist. I'm planning to post reviews of all three books as I read them on my historic food blog, Food Through Time--http://cathyshistoricfood.blogspot.com/ -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state. --Thomas de Quincey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's on your Christmas wish list?
All of Fran's items are on my list as well, with the exception of The Empire's New Clothes and Facing Beauty. There's a bunch more I'd like to have, but I won't bore you by transcribing my Wish List. :-) -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1880s hairstyles
On 10/20/2011 07:39 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: The request was for 1880s hairstyles. I love the Rapunzel site, but don't remember if anything there is a good match for 1880s. The hallmark of 1880s hair is frizzy bangs! Perhaps a clip of fakehair for the front of your style would work. The rest of the hair was worn either under the hat (atop the head) or below it (toward the nape), but can be almost anything. The frizzy bangs (and no center part) are the most visible style detail. I don't think any of the Rapunzel stuff features frizzy bangs, but a clip on should work. I think of 1880s as having lots of sausage curls in a bunch, hanging down the neck. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1880s hairstyles
On 10/20/2011 11:41 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Cathy, that was more 1870s, the sausage curls. Thanks. Victorian isn't my specialty, so I'm not surprised I got it wrong. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 70's prom dresses
Yearbooks might, or might not, do any good. When the girls' yearbook photos were taken at my high school, they merely draped our busts with a piece of velvet; we did not wear our prom gowns or anything like that. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
A white linen Viking shift and one of my linen, wrap-around apron dresses, in anticipation of a photo session for my blog that has yet to materialize. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fashion/costume wall calendars for 2012
On 09/27/2011 07:00 PM, Mary Llewellyn wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Lavolta Pressf...@lavoltapress.com wrote: [...] Wow, this is shoe calendar year: [...] Wow indeed! Thanks so much for all those great calendar links, especially the shoe calendars. Now I just have to decide which one to send to my sister, the shoe freak, whose birthday is coming up soon. :-) Sigh. I must have missed the original e-mail with all of the links--could someone please resend it? -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fashion/costume wall calendars for 2012
On 09/27/2011 09:06 PM, Catherine Olanich Raymond wrote: On 09/27/2011 07:00 PM, Mary Llewellyn wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Lavolta Pressf...@lavoltapress.com wrote: [...] Wow, this is shoe calendar year: [...] Wow indeed! Thanks so much for all those great calendar links, especially the shoe calendars. Now I just have to decide which one to send to my sister, the shoe freak, whose birthday is coming up soon. :-) Sigh. I must have missed the original e-mail with all of the links--could someone please resend it? Never mind! It turned out I hadn't emptied my trash folder after all. Thanks. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Movie Costume Question: McGonagall's Yule Ensemble
These pictures should help. I found a site by a costumer who made one for herself, but I can't locate it again! I'll try later. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Minerva_McGonagall%27s_dress_robes http://weheartit.com/entry/12025930 No, wait, I did find it; here it is! http://public.fotki.com/Kait/other_costuming/professor_mcgonagal-1/ Good luck! ailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New Pattern Company?
They've been around for awhile. I haven't bought from them, but my impression is that they are not shooting for reenactor quality reproductions or anything like that--more like sturdy Halloween or live-action rolyplaying costume. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
On 08/08/2011 01:08 AM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: So here are the questions...how did you find the h-costume email list? And what year did you join? It will be really interesting how the newbies have found it. I found the H-costume list website by searching the web shortly after I got a real browser (i.e., one that could handle graphics well) in 2001, and that's when I signed up. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
I started my own costume blog and mostly blog there, or on the costume blogs of other interested friends. It can be found at: http://cathyscostumeblog.blogspot.com/ On 08/06/2011 05:42 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: I don't do Twitter, but on Facebook, there has been a lot of in depth research type discussions going on in the two Groups I'm a part of. Elizabethan Costume http://www.facebook.com/groups/29374273995/ (being able to discuss with Ninya, Jane, and Melanie among many others about different aspects of whatever photo we are discussing about has been very enlightening. I don't do Facebook. I recently started an account on Google Plus, but I doubt I'll do serious costume discussions there. But still, you can't post anything very long in any discussion. I'm a member of a number of Facebook groups, and I ran into their posting length limit immediately. However, I also know that in order for me to actually Create the ideas floating in my head, I will need to spend less time on this computer, or those ideas won't get created. Maybe folks are spending less time online in order to Create? I wouldn't be surprised. It's amazing how much time the net can take up. Amen to that. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] a costumer's term question
On 04/17/2011 01:21 AM, Linda Rice wrote: Garb-age? Today's question is, if the cut-off bits of cloth are cabbage, what are the cut-off bits of fur? Jen/Margaret Very punny. :-) I think that fur scraps from costume-making would still be called cabbage--the name comes from the odd shape, not the substance, right? -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Are you guys willing to test a Facebook business page?
I didn't get a Captcha box wither when I clicked the like button just now. On 03/28/2011 07:17 PM, Franchesca wrote: I have created 3 such pages for various groups and totally understand what you mean. Until you have that magic number 25 fans you will not be able to reserve your business name. I am number 23, no captcha either. Hopefully you will get a few others. I will post something on my own FB to see if I can get a few friends to help -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Are you guys willing to test a Facebook business page?
On 03/28/2011 09:31 PM, Sid Young wrote: Can I suggest you try it without logging in first, you should then get a dialog asking to log in. If your already logged into facebook then pressing like automatically adds the liked page to your wall without asking you to authenticate again. I wasn't logged in. I rarely visit Facebook. All I did was follow Fran's link to the page. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Authenticity
On 03/14/2011 02:58 PM, Lisa A Ashton wrote: Delurking here: [snip] So for me, now learning about the Civil War era, to recreate an actual person known to have lived (their clothing--I am NOT a re-enactor), the more I learn about the sewingmachines of hte time, what might have been done by hand, the history of the Industrial Age at that time, what dyes and colors were available, What undergarments were worn to shape the outside, what fabrics might have been available to a specific social class in a particular location, it's all a continuum. Context is, truly, everything. And re-inventing the wheel, as I had to with the Great-grandmother dress, in order to make the decorative soutache swirls accurately, definitely gave me a much stronger connection; as has making my collars and cuffs for my Civil War era dresses by hand. I would say that for many of us, personal interest is a very strong motivator. The same is very much true for me. I don't really enjoy sewing, but I have taught myself enough skills to be able to sew an early Medieval style shift and tunic, and have learned much thereby. Thanks, Lisa, for your comment. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt
On 02/17/2011 03:23 PM, Audrey Bergeron-Morin wrote: That would work except that a leotard is not mesh, I really need transparent skin tone mesh... Trying checking out merchants who sell to figure skaters--figure skating costumes often incorporate flesh-colored mesh. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 15th c sewing technique
On 02/12/2011 01:18 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote: Recently, I was given some information which seems wrong to me. I was told that I should be using twill tape to stablize the neck and front opening of a (pre-tudor) mid-15th century laced front kirtle. To me, that sounds like a modern sewing technique, but the woman who told me this said that was the way the extant clothing was done. I've tried doing some research and can't find anything to confirm it. Does this sound right to anyone here? Thanks. Take a look at Textiles and clothing, c.1150-c.1450 By Elisabeth Crowfoot, Frances Pritchard, Kay Staniland Google Books has excerpts of it, but with out the photograph that (to my recollection) shows a piece of different fabric reinforcing the buttonholed edge. The page (as redacted for Google Books) can be found here, but you might be able to get it on Interlibrary Loan if you can't afford to buy it: http://books.google.com/books?id=CY-8T59wHHUCpg=PA171lpg=PA171dq=pritchard+14th+century+sleevesource=blots=KItepaB2Owsig=prDR4VKvp4WS92XrcHdjohQ2My4hl=enei=HNxWTZnqLcTflgeG_8nBBwsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepageq=pritchard%2014th%20century%20sleevef=false -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com I'm a little bit disappointed that cat plus Internet doesn't equal YouTube.— Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 15th c sewing technique
On 02/12/2011 02:34 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote: It isn't exactly what she said as she insisted that it had to be 1/4 inch cotton twill tape as that is what was used then, but at least there is support for silk binding. Thank you so much! I greatly doubt it was cotton twill tape, and I don't recall seeing any period binding of those dimensions. Still, the more evidence you get the better you can make up your mind as to what *you* think is appropriate. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com I'm a little bit disappointed that cat plus Internet doesn't equal YouTube.— Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 15th c sewing technique
On 02/12/2011 11:51 PM, otsisto wrote: On another list I remember someone showing an extent kirtle with twill weave binding along the front opening and neckline which was stitched to the back side of the fabric. It appeared to be card woven onto the edge but may have been stitched on (pic. was a wee bit grainy). I believe the woman said that the threads were of wool and linen (warp was one and the other was the weft). So, twill tape is possibly period or a good substitute for the woven on band. That it HAS to be 1/4 is debatable as the extent example was closer to 1/2 and I do not think that there would have been a sumptuary laws that dictated the width of twill tape. For it being made of cotton is highly doubtful for most of Europe but possible in the Mediterranean region, either region it would have been rare and costly. As for binding and edge you are more likely to have in the European and Mediterranean regions linen, wool, hemp, nettle and silk before you would see a cotton bound edge. Egypt on the other h! and would most likely have the cotton binding. Is it possible that there was a miscommunication somewhere? The kirtle evidence sounds interesting. Do you remember which list you saw it on? (I'd love to check back to find the source.) -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com I'm a little bit disappointed that cat plus Internet doesn't equal YouTube.— Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Book review
On 12/30/2010 09:34 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 06:01 PM 12/30/2010, you wrote: I've been asked about this book, but not haven't seen it before, I couldn't offer much. Has anyone seen this one? Good Bad? http://www.etsy.com/listing/39296868/encyclopedie-illustree-du-costume-et-de alex So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with… I must say that for $15 I'd take a chance on it. Assuming you can read French, of course. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com I'm a little bit disappointed that cat plus Internet doesn't equal YouTube.— Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What costume-related holiday gifts did you get?
No books, this time, but a frame for doing tablet weaving on from Lynn the Weaver: http://www.lucets.com/pages/looms.html -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com I'm a little bit disappointed that cat plus Internet doesn't equal YouTube.— Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What book do you want to see in your Christmas stocking?
Tons. Among the most serious contenders right now: Fransen, Lilli; Norgard, Anna; Østergård, Else (Shelly Nordtorp-Madson, tr.). Medieval Garments Reconstructed: Norse Clothing Patterns. Aarhus University Press (December 31, 2009). Glæsel, Nille. Viking - dress, clothing, klær, garment. (2010). Adams, Noel, Entwistle, Chris. Intelligible Beauty: Recent Research on Byzantine Jewellery (British Museum Research Publication) British Museum Press (2010). -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com I'm a little bit disappointed that cat plus Internet doesn't equal YouTube.— Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
On 12/03/2010 01:10 PM, Lynn Downward wrote: A Viking era shift and an apron dress, but those have been completed for a long time. I have a number of items in the works that have been in the works for awhile, including a new wrap-around apron dress and a 10th c Lithuanian shawl. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com I'm a little bit disappointed that cat plus Internet doesn't equal YouTube.— Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume-related calendars
Fran: Thanks for starting this thread. A few years ago, I couldn't find a good costume-related calendar for love or money. On Nov 27, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: What costume-related calendars is everyone buying for 2011? -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything. — Marilyn Monroe ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume-related calendars
On 11/27/2010 07:25 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: What costume-related calendars is everyone buying for 2011? I just bought this one. showing full color photographs of reconstructed Lithuanian costumes from the First through Sixteenth centuries C.E.: http://www.balticshop.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?item=13088cat=0344title=Calendars BalticShop.com sells it in the US for $25 plus $3.95 shipping handling. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything. — Marilyn Monroe ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric - was: Shirt pattern - SCA period - pre-1600
On 10/18/2010 01:57 PM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: devalifewear.com should do the trick. If you call them, they have several fabrics they use in their designs.? Ask for a sample of what is available...if the weight and weave is crucial. One of them is Devacloth which does have some 'crinkle'..but it 'reads' for the uniniated as un-ironed linen.? In following the thread, I take it that the design and appearance is more important than authenticity. If he gets 'hooked' with roleplaying life, you can upgrade the shirt to a closer period piece. My take on reality... Deva cloth is a bit too heavy for a shirt, IMHO, though it would be good for a tunic. Their Breezecloth might make a better shirt. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything. — Marilyn Monroe ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] (no subject)
On 10/10/2010 01:59 AM, Laurie Taylor wrote: [snip] The chemise in the painting seems unlikely to have a drawstring neckline. Any thoughts on this? The picture on WGA.hu, zoomed to 200%, looks like maybe very fine, parallel rows of gathers which would not have the adjustability of a drawstring, but it's that gathered look that I like about this chemise. [snip] I think you're right that it's very fine gathers and not a drawstring. In fact, I don't know of any 16th c chemises gathered on a drawstring. To that end, you may find the following websites interesting: http://www.festiveattyre.com/research/chemise.html http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/library/camicia.htm http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/library/camportrait.htm http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/library/neckhowto.htm -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything. — Marilyn Monroe ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] [ h-cost] Tom Tierney, was Fashion crisis!
On Friday 20 August 2010 4:18:35 am Kate Bunting wrote: Cathy Raymond wrote: He did a book on later medieval fashion where he misintreprets the long bead string worn by a woman in the Tres Riches Heures as a transparent fabric with a beaded edge. I know very little about mediaeval costume, but I can understand why Tierney thought it was a cape with a beaded edge - the beads pass OVER her arm. Looks very awkward to modern eyes, but I suppose you didn't have to do anything energetic in that kind of outfit! Oh, I can understand the error too. But it means that he was cranking out those coloring books too fast to take enough thought about his source pictures. That fact makes his books too unreliable to use as reference--even though they seem wonderfully clear. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!
On Thursday 19 August 2010 1:46:44 pm Rickard, Patty wrote: Comments? Thanks, Ceit To: Marche of Alderford Subject: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis! OK my SCAdian family...I have a book by Tom Tierney on Celtic Fashions. What I would like to know is how reputable is this source? What I am looking for is Irish Celt in the 6th Century. I really like the style on the cover but the illustration states Frankish Celts, ca 450 B.C. PeaceDub Essa/Cliodhna I wouldn't trust Tierney as far as I could throw him. His books never cite the sources of the illustrations he redraws (assuming he has redrawn in all cases instead of making something up based upon a written description, which I wouldn't bet against). He did a book on later medieval fashion where he misintreprets the long bead string worn by a woman in the Tres Riches Heures as a transparent fabric with a beaded edge. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tres Riches sheer? FW: [Alderfolk] Fashion Crisis!
On Thursday 19 August 2010 11:20:24 pm otsisto wrote: Could you direct me to an online pic of this? I have come across through browsing some 1400s Italian paintings with sheer material layer over fabric of the over gown. Most were by the same artist but one w/embroidery by another artist from an earlier period. [snip] Problem is that the one in question is *not* depicted that way. I should be able to find this one on line, let's see now. There's a ton of places to find it but in most the image cannot be zoomed very large. This one isn't too bad, and it can be zoomed up a bit: http://www.thebeckoning.com/art/limbourg/limbourg-apr.jpg This isn't zoomable but is a bit better: http://0.tqn.com/d/historymedren/1/0/-/H/2/april.jpg Ah, the Brittanica on line has come through for me with an image that can be made both large and zoomable--and you can zoom a particular area. I've used Tinyurl on this link because the URL is very large: http://tinyurl.com/28zmhhz The image is the miniature for April and the woman of whose costume I spoke is the fifth person in from the left-hand edge of the picture. She is wearing a light blue houppelande with a dark blue pattern and a wide, white (perhaps fur?) hem, a gold under dress, and a large black fur hat. The beads in question are red and draped over her right shoulder; they finish with a gold- colored tassel low on her left side. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Reviews of books on history of jewellery.
On Thursday 17 June 2010 2:47:09 pm Donna Hawk wrote: Um, actually, it is illustrated: Detailed narrative enhances 400 photographs and illustrations I'll admit I haven't opened it in a while and thus will stand corrected. What are the illustrations like? I would have thought I'd have remembered if the book had a lot of them. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Reviews of books on history of jewellery.
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 8:39:53 am Elizabeth Walpole wrote: Hi everyone, I'm doing some book buying at the moment and I'm seeking reviews of these three books on jewellery [snip] First is '7000 Years Of Jewelry: An International History And Illustrated Survey From The Collections Of The British Museum' by Hugh Tait http://snipurl.com/xgxpz I have the first edition (1986) I understand there has since been a newer one published. The Tait book has gorgeous pictures. If you are primarily interested in the jewelry of antiquity, Tait may be perfect for your needs. Its coverage of European jewelry is much less detailed from about the late Roman period on. On the other hand, it does have examples of historic jewelry from outside Europe--China, Japan, even the South American civilizations. For which period are you seeking a reference. Second is 'A History Of Jewelry, 1100-1870' by Joan Evans http://snipurl.com/xgy3z Interesting text, but not illustrated. Since you want a visual reference, this wouldn't be for you. I also think the Angus and Robertson price is kind of high. Yes, I know that shipping to Australia is usually the highest cost, but even with that factor you might be able to get it cheaper from Dover Publications (it's one of theirs) if you ever decide you want it. The third option is 'Jewelry: From Antiquity To The Present' http://snipurl.com/xgy7s A wonderful short survey--possibly the best for its size in English. But it's a small sized folio and the pictures, though clear and mostly in color, are not as plentiful or as big as the Tait book. As a visual reference, it's not nearly as good at the Tait book, because it has fewer pictures. You may also want to consider a new book, Medieval Jewellery, by Marion Campbell (published by the VA). It's got marvellous tight color closeup photos of jewels from the 12th through 15th centuries, and enlarged reproductions of minatures showing period costume to give an idea of how they were worn. The book focuses mostly on 1300-1600 CE, so if that's the time frame you're interested in, you should consider it. More info here: http://tinyurl.com/2ddlbrt Finally, have you checked to see whether your local library has any of these? That would be a better way for you to find out if any of them are potentially useful to you. Good luck! -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian costuming sites?
On Tuesday 08 June 2010 1:53:18 pm Julie wrote: My costuming experience is Renaissance and earlier. I'm just getting started w/ Victorian/U.S. Civil War and am wondering if there are some good online places I can look. I'l looking for: 1. Life times of Queen Victoria (just watched Young Victoria realized I don't know much about her) 2. Fashions from around then that could be steam punked. Around then, in the context of Queen Victoria, is too vague. She ascended the throne in 1837 and died in 1901; which period of her life would you like to use as inspiration? With that in mind, most steampunk costume takes the fashions of the 1870s and 1880s as inspiration, so you may want to focus on those periods. Are you interested in purchasing patterns or drafting your own? If you want to purchase a reasonable pattern, trulyvictorian.com has some good ones that are not bad to work with; their website includes a concise timeline of Victorian era costume. Good luck! -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Query re: website
On Tuesday 18 May 2010 8:55:36 pm Lavolta Press wrote: The marketing prose strikes me as pretty tame and tasteful as print or Internet marketing go. Of course, everyone's mileage will vary on that sort of thing. I think I'm reacting to the fact that the marketing is so targeted to a beginning audience. However, much of the website is targeted to a beginning audience, so that marketing is actually appropriate. I am aware that there is no standard as to what is considered beginning, intermediate, or advanced costuming, and that people place themselves into these categories depending on their own goals and so on. But to me, Your Wardrobe Unlock'd is a beginner site, the corset site somewhat less so. My impression is somewhat different--but then, so may my definition of beginner. To me, a beginner is still learning to sew, let alone apply that knowledge to historic clothing. In other words, I didn't find a lot of new information there but it will be different for other people. That means only that you're not really part of the market segment they're targeting, and that's fine. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Frobisher Garb
On Wednesday 14 April 2010 4:55:21 pm Kimiko Small wrote: Do you mean this one? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Martin_Frobisher_by_Ketel.jpg I wish it was a larger file to see the details better. It looks like the jerkin and possibly his breeches are in leather. But his sleeves have a fabric look to them, and may be attached to a doublet of the same fabric. The sleeves look to be extra long and pushed into doing those gathers - I can't tell with an image this size. The sleeves also look to be in 2 pieces. And just because you don't see an opening doesn't mean there isn't some sort of opening that is unseen in the image to get the hands through. I'm not sure what more help I can be, as sleeves are not a strong point for me. Kimiko Small Frankly, they look like fabric to me, particularly the breeches, which look like velvet, but I could of course be wrong. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Medieval Garments Reconstructed: Norse Clothing Patterns
On Tuesday 16 March 2010 8:12:23 pm Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A. wrote: And this date might actually be right. It will come out simultaneously in Danish and English, for those of you who prefer a Scando language. The technical information is quite amazingly thorough. It was originally supposed to come out late last year. Then I heard that it was coming out in June 2010. We'll see when it ships. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
On Monday 01 March 2010 7:30:00 pm Cin wrote: It's spring (where I live). You might be making something for the end of the theater season, a party, a wedding, a con or a re-enactment. Whatever the reason, costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? I have a number of projects but most of them are stalled because of too much work and snow shoveling. :-) The three that are closest to being actualized at the moment: 1) the 10th century Lithuanian shawl; 2) A semi-fitted wrap around apron dress; 3) A Middle Byzantine outfit; I have all components done *except* the main tunic. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] (no subject)
On Sunday 10 January 2010 11:18:36 pm Jo Anne Fatherly wrote: I got Margo's Tudor Woman patterns and now I have questions. (They've probably been asked before, but forgive me -- I didn't need to know then!). Two materials recommendations have me baffled. There's half-inch diameter Roman drapery rings. I can't find any smaller than an inch -- where would you get them? One place you can get 1/2 inch rings is Renaissance Fabrics; the specific page on their website is here: http://tinyurl.com/y8v7wcb -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches
On Sunday 03 January 2010 9:31:54 pm Sharon Collier wrote: Me, too, but there is a book (available at Amazon) which supposedly has examples of all the old colors. I think the title has something to do with elephants or smoke. Sorry, I don't remember exactly. It may also have been discussed on the Elizabethan Clothing Tribe. It's called Elephant's Breath and London Smoke. Here's the page on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Elephants-Breath-London-Smoke- Salisbury/dp/0973927828/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1262573593sr=8-1 -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christmas Squeee!
My Christmas squee: http://cathyr19355.livejournal.com/104880.html Add to that a copy of Traditional Dress of the Native Americans. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well.--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] cleaning up a wool gown
On Thursday 15 October 2009 12:21:47 pm Alexandria Doyle wrote: I was planning to run it through the dryer with one of the at-home dry cleaner products to freshen it up, but it seems like hair and such just cling horribly to the wool and I don't know that the tumbling would be enough to get the grass off. I'd recommend against that--the heat won't help that much (the mud's already long dry, right?) and the tumbling won't be enough to get it loose. What you need is a clothes brush--you should be able to find one in a department store for cheap. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. --Walter Bagehot ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Herald's Renaissance Dress in Italy
On Wednesday 07 October 2009 10:01:29 am sunshine.k.buch...@kp.org wrote: Charlene Charette wrote: And the last couple of copies I've found were in the US$2000+ range. OK, I know it's a good book. Is it really *that* good a book? Is there that much in there that isn't anywhere else? No, imo it's not worth $2000. However, I'm very happy with the $200 I spent on my copy (years ago, now...) It does go though a number of Italian inventories circa 1480 (assuming my memory is correct, I don't have my copy to-hand at the moment) which I haven't seen discussed elsewhere in English. IMO it's a really good complement to Bernini's _Dress in Italian Painting_ which analyzes circa 1460-80s art with an eye construction; Don't you mean Elizabeth Birbari's Dress in Italian Painting--1460-1500? Available on Amazon Marketplace for about $100, but I saw a copy on addall.com for less than $25. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. --Walter Bagehot ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Color dye mixing
On Monday 05 October 2009 6:54:57 pm landofoz wrote: Are you positive this was wool? I find it suspect that neither color remover nor dye had any effect. What kind of dye did you use? If she used Rit, I'm not necessarily surprised. I find that Rit is hit or miss on wool, especially if the water temperature is a bit too cool. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. --Walter Bagehot ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Opinions on this book
On Wednesday 30 September 2009 9:36:55 pm Sharon Collier wrote: I have a copy of The Encyclopedia of World Costume, by Doreen Yarwood. Any opinions on this one? Is it worth saving or should I toss it? My recollection is that it's neither great nor totally awful. I would not recommend buying it. Nor would I recommend keeping it if space is at a premium and you need to trim your library. But if you don't have problems with it tying up an inch or so of shelf space, I'd keep it, at least for now. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. --Walter Bagehot ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?
On Monday 28 September 2009 3:50:13 pm Käthe Barrows wrote: Is the sarafan a relative of the apron dress?? I don't think so. It has sides, and, in its recent configurations, it has straps sewn right on. They're wide apart in front and close together in back. And the garment doesn't seem to go back farther than the 1600s (I tried researching one for SCA wear, and they're not quite early enough.) More to the point, the sarafan doesn't show up until long after the Viking apron dress was... history. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. --Walter Bagehot ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Roman question
On Friday 11 September 2009 9:23:15 pm Laurie Taylor wrote: Hi, Finally making progress in my quest to build pieces to use in my history class. The ancients are certainly some of the simplest to build, but of course I have an insatiable need to complicate my life and my projects! So, if you were building a Roman paenula (hooded poncho-like garment) in a thick wool or fake wool (actual fiber not certain), the cut edges of which are pretty stable, how would you sew the seams? Obviously I'm not looking for serging ideas here. I am maybe contemplating actually hand stitching it since it doesn't amount to a whole lot of sewing. I think my question is do we think that they would have lapped the edges and sewn through the layers - no flapping seam allowances on the inside? Or would regular, plain seams, pressed open or to one side seem more likely? Check out some of these: http://heatherrosejones.com/archaeologicalsewing/wool.html#Wool -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. --Walter Bagehot ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
On Wednesday 02 September 2009 5:35:59 pm Gilbert wrote: My dummy is wearing the white poodle skirt I made for my dance recital (we did a tap routine to Mr Sandman). It's gorgeous... My notional dummy is wearing a wool Viking apron dress, based on the Hedeby fragment. http://cathyscostumeblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/hedeby-apron-dress- completed.html Current project; a Byzantine half-circle cloak called a mantion. Mine will be of coat-weight royal blue wool with sky blue wool trim. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. --Walter Bagehot ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 9:31:59 pm Sharon Nevin wrote: Hi, This is slightly off-topic but I'm curious and I figured this list would probably be best to answer. The latest fall Buttericks are out and there is one Making History pattern. Usually I can guess where they have drawn their inspiration from and what period that they are imitating but this is one is puzzling me. If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 Modern, but the sleeves look vaguely 1890s-ish to me. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. --Walter Bagehot ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Handmade Hooks and Eyes?
On Monday 06 July 2009 9:37:49 pm Jane Stockton wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know where I can purchase online handmade hooks and eyes for clothing? http://tinyurl.com/lx5ke5 Or get them by the dozen, from the same site: http://tinyurl.com/no9ytb -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking about them. -- Alfred North Whitehead, An Introduction to Mathematics ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 10:30:05 pm Sagittarius Uisce Beatha wrote: Here's a picture of Queen Elizabeth I (1575) wearing what I think you're http://www.elizabethancostume.net/headwear/frenchhood.html. If you scroll to the bottom there's a paragraph about french hoods of the later period that you seek. There's also another page that tells you how to construct a french hood, unfortunately the pattern for the later period isn't there but the earlier periods are. Maybe you can adapt the pattern to suit what you're looking for. Melanie Schussler just published an article on the evolution of French hood that's in the latest volume of Medieval Clothing and Textiles; she has some schematic drawings of French hoods, both early and late, that may be helpful. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. --Sean O'Casey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion indetail
On Sunday 10 May 2009 3:09:31 am Kim Baird wrote: The paperback has no color photos. I did locate the 1975 hard cover edition at used bookstores on line for around $25. I didn't realize that there was a hardback edition, let alone that it had photos! I should look for a copy. Thanks. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. --Sean O'Casey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation
On Friday 08 May 2009 2:58:59 pm Carol Kocian wrote: On May 8, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Käthe Barrows wrote: Of course, there are periods where a raw edge is more authentic than finished edges. But if you'd documented the lack of seam finish, and if your other hand-sewing was good, the lack of seam finish would have looked deliberate, not like an oversight. One difficulty is that cloth was fulled much better in various historic periods than what's available now. There are some fulled fabrics available, but more expensive. Anyway, as pointed out earlier, sometimes raw edges are appropriate. A raw edge is one thing; a seam with loose threads hanging off of it is another. *That* sort of seam is not period for Anglo-Saxon; clothing took too many resources (both of material and person power) to make for it to be tolerable to create shoddy clothing. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. --Sean O'Casey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion in detail
On Thursday 07 May 2009 10:29:45 pm Elizabeth Walpole wrote: Hi everyone, I've just got some bonus money and I'm planning on spending some of it on books. I'm looking for a book that will show me internal construction details of Victorian era clothing preferably using detailed photos. Looking on Amazon I found Nineteenth Century Fashion in Detail by Lucy Johnston, so for those who have a copy does it include these sort of details (or it is external decorative details like embroidery or ruching). All of the photos are of external details, such as ruching. However, there are no photos of the entire garment (though there are line sketches) and no photos showing construction. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. --Sean O'Casey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] new book
Thanks. This looks interesting. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. --Voltaire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New TT book?
I know they've been planning to do a similar book for 17th C (The Stuart Tailor) but I've yet to see evidence that they're even as far as taking pre-sales on their website. The website mentions that they are taking pre-orders for another 16th c book The King's Servants: Men's Dress at the Accession of King Henry VIII: http://www.tudortailor.com/ -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. --Voltaire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New TT book?
According to a mutual friend, they have been having problems coming to terms with the publisher of Tudor Tailor and so have decided to start their own publishing house (Fat Goose) in order to put out smaller editions modeled on the Osprey military series that focus on specific parts of period costuming. According to the mutual friend they will also be looking to publish well researched papers from other people. It sounds as though they will be publishing the information they intended to publish but in smaller bits. The first in the new series will be 'The King's Servants' focusing on the working class male of the Tudor Era. Thanks for the extra information! I was pleased to see the King's Servants book and have ordered it. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. --Voltaire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] brass veil pins
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 2:04:46 am Joan Mielke wrote: I am in envy of Sarah/Bess' new veil pins. My supplier discontinued them in the US. Does anyone have a reliable source for brass veil pins--the very plain, but thin ones, about 2 1/2 inches long? Needle and Thread carries brass pins that are thin and plain (I've ordered them), but I think they may be only 2 inches long; look here: http://www.woodedhamlet.com/threads_pins_needles/brass_pins.htm Nope, sorry; the longest ones are only 1 1/2 inch--sorry. Historic Enterprises carries brass pins, but I'm told they're significantly thicker. They are 2 inches long and come in packs of 4. http://www.historicenterprises.com/cart.php?m=product_detailp=209c=33 Finally, Reconstructing History sells brass pins by the dozen, with either coral heads or plain wire ones. Theirs are about 1 1/2 inches long again (40 mm). https://www.reconstructinghistory.com/brass- pins.php?s=c=111d=181e=182q=1p=454w=21 These are the only sources I know about. Good luck finding what you want! -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] NESAT X
While poking around on the Web I found information on NESAT X, which Oxbow Books is publishing: Hardcover: 352 pages Publisher: Oxbow Books (October 31, 2009) Language: English ISBN-10: 1842173707 ISBN-13: 978-1842173701 David Brown, Oxbow's American affiliate, is taking pre-orders at $96.00. Amazon.com is also taking pre-orders, but at $79.88. You may find other bookstores that are planning to carry it; shop around. I know that I can hardly want to get it! I'd be tempted to buy it for the article about the Pskov textiles alone, and there are 50 papers total in this issue. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Patterns date question
On Wednesday 11 March 2009 7:26:04 am Deredere Galbraith wrote: I was wondering from when the costume is on the left of the picture. I have been asked to make that costume for reenactment in the Netherlands during the 1sth world war. And I wonder if that dress is the right period. http://www.naaipatronen.nl/afb/swb/B4954.jpg De: the costume shown doesn't look to be particularly period to me for any period, but it looks more like an 1890s outfit than anything else. So I'm inclined to say, no, it's not right for WWI. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Patterns date question
On Wednesday 11 March 2009 9:09:21 pm Ann Catelli wrote: --- On Wed, 3/11/09, Catherine Olanich Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com wrote: From: Deredere wrote: I was wondering from when the costume is on the left of the picture. http://www.naaipatronen.nl/afb/swb/B4954.jpg De: the costume shown doesn't look to be particularly period to me for any period, but it looks more like an 1890s outfit than anything else. So I'm inclined to say, no, it's not right for WWI. Cathy Raymond Looks like a 1980s costume alleged to be 1890s. Except for the hemline, maybe. :-) -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mary I ???
On Monday 02 March 2009 12:53:31 pm Elena House wrote: Kimiko got it! Tudor Costume and Fashion by Herbert Norris, p. 430. Google books has a preview copy of it online: http://snipurl.com/cy2vn -or- http://books.google.com/books?id=ynMUvGdHZhUC Well, they call it a preview, but it seems to be almost the whole book; just missing a page or two here and there. Anyway, page 430 is there. So it is. And it indeed purports to be Lady Mary II, ...drawn from a three-quarter portrait of the Princess Mary dating about 1551-3. The interesting thing is that, though the interesting coif, high sleeve caps and general color scheme are consistent with the image that started this thread, it is not *identical*--suggesting that Norris, in turn, redrew a Victorian redrawing. Ugh. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mary I ???
On Sunday 01 March 2009 6:05:45 pm Saragrace Knauf wrote: http://z.about.com/d/womenshistory/1/0/Y/Q/2/mary_i_tudor_holbein_001a.jpg Anyone seen this one before - the image name indicates it is a Holbein?? No, I haven't. The style suggests to me that it is a Victorian re-drawing of a 16th century painting, possibly of a Holbein. The headdress is not of a type I've seen on Mary I (the portraits of her I've seen all show her in French hoods). That type of headdress more commonly shows up on portraits of Mary, Queen of Scots in her later years. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
On Sunday 22 February 2009 10:33:02 pm Pixel, Goddess and Queen wrote: The dressmaker's project bag alternates between a linen gown (early 13th c.) in this amazingly delicious sage green handkerchief linen that I am still occasionally kicking myself for not buying the whole bolt of, and the neckline embroidery (white silk on dark blue linen) for an in-progress matched set of dark blue wool 13th c. outfits for me and the Consort. The wandering embroidery frame has the cuff embroidery for the green gown. Yum! I hope you'll be willing and able to put photos of these projects on the Web, and give us links to them, when you're done! :-) -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
My dressmaker's hanger is wearing a replica of the Manazan shirt, which is fast nearing completion: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chrisandpeter/manazan_shirt/manazan_instructions.htm -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period/country etc is this tunic?
On Thursday 19 February 2009 11:11:36 pm Saragrace Knauf wrote: Can anyone tell me what the guy in the blue tunic is wearing? I guess that would be Rahim http://tinyurl.com/brvg4j http://sca.berkeley.edu/album/2003_00_and_previous_years/2000_Spring_-__Tab ling_on_Sproul_Plaza_-_From_left_to_right_Sarah__Moshe__Faisal__Rahim__H_Sm. jpg.3.html I've seen that type of tunic called a Norman tunic (as in, the folks who invaded England in 1066), and it indeed resembles some of the images in the Bayeux Tapestry. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] (no subject)
On Saturday 17 January 2009 11:03:24 pm Yolanda wrote: I mostly just lurk and learn things from all of your conversations but I need some help. I need help on resources for Researching 3rd century roman clothing and don't really know where to start. Book website and other general recommendations would be very much appreciated. I did find a few things but my google fu is off. Try this one for a start; it discusses third century costume and later in the Roman provinces: Croom, A.T. Roman Clothing and Fashion. Tempus Publishing, Ltd., 2000. ISBN 0 7524 1469 0. There's some more generalized information about the Roman textile industry that late in the Empire here: Rogers, Penelope Walton, Jorgensen, Lise Bender Rast-Eicher, Antoninette, eds. The Roman Textile Industry and Its Influence. Oxbow Books, 2001. ISBN 1 84217 046 5. The bibliographies of both books should help also. Good luck. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Gothic Fitted Dress
On Sunday 04 January 2009 12:23:11 pm Suzi Clarke wrote: I know there has been reams written on this list about the Gothic Fitted Dress, and I remember seeing a how to set of pictures, but when I tried to find information to pass on to a colleague, I was stumped. Anyone care to point me in the right direction? I know there is information in the archives, but I am such a klutz I can never find what I want. http://www.cottesimple.com/fem_silhouette/intro_fem_silh.html (This page actually walks you through two different approaches to making a GFD.) Robin Netherton's site is here. For some reason, it now requires a login and password to access the material on the GFD. http://netherton.net/robin/ -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Crenshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
