I'm neew to this list and have enjoyed learning a lot of
different things. I do recreating the 1500's. I didn't
realize that they had split drawers in the 16th cen. Do you
have any historical evidence that they had them in the
nobility class in the midto late 1500's, and what they
Here is a picture of the fabric that's melting on my needle...
http://oort.com/goddess/temp/temp.fabric.jpg
I've worked with this stuff before - the problem is the glue that sticks the
shiny bits onto stretchy fabric. I came up with 2 solutions - neither of which
is perfect, but they might
I'm a librarian looking for books of fashion photographs
for one of my library customers. She is interested in women's
evening wear of the 1940s and 1950s. Does anyone know of a
good source or sources for this kind of information?
There are a number of books I'd look at, depending on
This is a little late, but in case someone WANTS _Moda a Firenze_ right now, I
was in Lacis today, and they have a copy of it for sale (and they do mail
order) - http://www.lacis.com/ I didn't check the price, since I already own a
copy...
-sunny
Hi Bjarne!
I've recently done a c1776 robe anglaise, which is ~20 years before your dress,
so take my references with a grain of salt.
From a brief flip though my documentation binder, it seems very common to have
side-back seams in the skirt - which fall approximately mid-way between the
Actually, in my vintage collection (which includes 4 US Civ. War-ish period
women's' bodices - could be a bit later, not 100% sure but they're late 60s at
the worst) it's pretty evenly split whether it's left-on-top or right-on-top.
So I think your idea is perfectly kosher. (I only noticed this
I found it's usually respectable middle class that wears day
dress (and
probably working class too as I suspect there wasn't much
opportunity to go
to the opera or the odd ball) and the aristocracy could
wear off the
shoulder and the like. I was mostly looking at 1870s and
1880s
Two programmes on British TV over Christmas showed Victorian
brides in sleeveless dresses. One was the film of Nicholas
Nickleby, the other a version of Dracula. Dammit, you wear
DAY clothes to a wedding! (or used to.)
I thought that too, however in my most recent research project
I have a question for you 19th century types, born out of
completely idle curiosity. This Christmas, I was given a
lovely bracelet comprising different buttons from the 1870s.
They are all about 1/2 inch in diameter, and have
surprisingly complex and lovely designs in them. They are
I'm gearing up to make a new dress, and was wondering if
anybody on here has made up the 1878 dress from Janet
Arnold's Pattern of Fashion 2. (ha - rhetorical question -
I'm sure somebody has!) I'm got a general idea of what I want
out of the dress, and this seems to be closest to what I
I've a question for all corset makers here: which kind of
boning (steel or plastic) would you use for a Victorian -
style corset (if not a real whalebone)? And generally, what
experiences do you have when using steel or plastic boning?
Do you mix them as well?
I'd really like to
Does anyone have any comments or observations on this pattern
[Medieval Miscellanea #21, 14th and 15th century cotehardies]?
I'm looking at view I.
It's a find pattern for a modern princess seamed dress with lacing down the
front. It's not a GFD at all. However, the pictures in the
I've got another probably stupid question: How do you do the
fitting??? I mean the corset is - at leat at the waist - much
smaller than your real figure, so how can you actually try it
on when not yet finished? It must be tight laced and there
must be bones in it, else I cannot imagine
Probably a stupid question, but how do you all develope the
pattern for the different corsets you do?
I prefer to start from an existing pattern - either from blowing up one of
Waugh's _Corsets Crinolines_ patterns or from a commercial pattern (like Past
Patterns) and then fit the heck out
A friend and I made me a corset from the Past Patterns straight front corset
pattern. However, it was not a simple/easy project:
1) Following the initial sizing, did not give me the S-bend shape I was looking
for -- we ended up making the top much more tight fitting then the bottom which
The down
side is that while I can now pattern it and it will fit under
the dress I want to make - I can't decide how full the skirt
should be. Any idea with yours?
I'm starting from the skirt pattern of the dress I'm going to make (from
_Moden 1790-1840_ by Ellen Andersen, can't
I'm making a bodiced petticoat, based off of the picture in _The History of
Underclothes_ by the Cunnington's. Unfortunately, it's from the 1820s but it
was the only picture of a bodiced petticoat I could find (the others were all
re-drawings), so that's why I went with that one. If you have
Are you talking about a modern spoon busk? I have heard they
aren't like the
actual spoon busks of the era. In fact most busks* were
curved down the
front (spoon or regular) before the straight busk came in in
the 1890s,
whereas now all busks are straight for recreations.
Yes, it was
I've seen modern spoon busks that are flat in profile, is that what
you used? Or did you use a curved one like they sell at farthingales?
http://www.farthingales.on.ca/busks.php I've never tried using a spoon
busk myself but have been toying with the idea, so hearing about other
people's
I don't know if my comments will help at all, but I have a corset with a spoon
busk and the front edge of that corset was straight too... It rounds around the
outside of the busk, there's no real curve in the center section of the busk
where the hooks and bulb-things meet. As a side note, I
This pink dress reminded me... a friend is making a Regency
style gown, for a party so it doesn't have to be particularly
authentic, but neither of us can work out - how/where do they
fasten? Some have buttons down the centre back, but most
don't seem to have any visible opening.
Thank you everyone for your help! Letting out the tops of the side seams just a
smidge and then adding dress improvers seems to have done the trick :-)
Thank you very much!
-sunny
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Hi, I'm making an 1865-70 bodice (first bustle era) starting from the Truly
Victorian ball bodice pattern, and I'm having trouble with the fit around the
armholes -- there's a horizontal stress line about 1/2 above the bottom of the
armhole (right at the top of my corset) it extends about 3
My comments are in reference to this site:
http://www.ninyamikhaila.com/Princesselizabeth.html
So what she has is:
smock
bodice and wool skirt
petticoat
farthingale
kirtle/corset
gown.
Is this correct?
I have alway thought it was:
smock (maybe underwear)
kirtle
gown
I'm hoping that
Hi everyone,
I've just come to a question about period fastenings - when
I'm making period costumes, I often never know what type of
fastening shall I use. F.ex. the petticoats - were they
fastened simply with a ribbon or a button or what? Does
anyone know any web page or book or
I bought my copy of _Moda a Firenze_ from Lacis (http://www.lacis.com/) in
Berkeley CA, but I have heard they ran out... you could call and see if they
got more in, as my info is a month old.
Yesterday I noticed that Hedgehog Handworks
(http://www.hedgehoghandworks.com/catalog/BKCT6001.shtml)
I'd really like to have a more authentic pair of stays before
starting a second outfit. I've been thinking about trying to
draft my own pattern - but haven't been really sure where to
start. The other question, is whether to use the plastic
boning, or go the metal route... and then
Hi, based simply on my reading of _Moda di Firenze_ (sp?) I would rule out
Italian because of the stiffness of the bodice and the fully covered
neck-partlet area. At least Florentine fashions (according to Moda) have a
softer bodice then Spanish, and they tend to have open necks or
Hi!
http://www.costumes.org/history/leloir/vol10/48_1692.jpg
Can someone tell me about the sash she's wearing? What's it
made of? Did it have a purpose, or did it just look pretty?
Also, the skirt appears to be divided in the center front. Is
it open to reveal a petticoat, or is
I'm wondering about how compressible that they are. Will she
squish down indefinately with a corset? Say, should I have
one that fits, and then lace her into it to *that* place
because on her it will tighten far more than it does on me?
I even wondered about making a couple of
Hi! I didn't see anyone else answer this so I'm going to take a stab -- I just
moved to Cleveland though, so I may not be the best person :-)
Unfortunately the Cleveland Museum of Art (which has a lovely armor collection)
is mostly closed for the next 2 years :-(. They do have one (and only
I don't know if the sleeve drape was like a lower circle sewn
on, like
you see on some young women's sleeves today, or if it was
another sleeve
like the angle-wing ones. This particular picture seems like
it must be
more like the circle-on-the-sleeve sort, but the TRH ones look a bit
*cool* Are any of these images online anywhere?
In my quick (~15 minutes) on-line search I didn't find anything. But I'm not
very familiar with the on-line manuscript archives... My search was limited to
goggling various terms. Sorry! I would've liked to have given links in my
earlier
Good question. I know they make sergers, but evidently they make other
sewing machines as well as other industrial equipment.
I THINK they may have gotten into the domestic machine market after
their beginnings in industrial machines.
Anybody know?
I have a non-industrial serger by
Hi!
http://slumberland.org/moodle/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=864
I'd like to know the name of the dark grey/white piece on the
woman in the second photo. It covers her head and shoulders.
It's a hood, or medieval hood. Sometimes it's called a lirpipe (sp?) if there
is a long tail hanging off
Hi Cin!
Actually, you can steam velvet if you have one of 2 things:
1) a nail board -- this is the safest option, but they are very expensive, and
tend to come in 4 square sizes, which are simply frustrating to work with.
(IMHO)
2) You can iron and steam velvet if you put the pile face down
Hi! I'm moving from the San Francisco area to Cleveland in 2 weeks, and I was
wondering if there is anyone else on this list in the Cleveland area?
Cheers!
-sunny
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